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Topic: Abortion
oldhippie1952's photo
Fri 03/22/13 11:16 AM
Yeah, I'm opening that can of worms. I just wanted to see what peoples opinions are. And keep it civil, no need for the mods to scold us like children, right?

I think it is a woman's choice. Notwithstanding the argument you are killing some child, I still do not feel I can project my values on another.

Some of you may wonder how I can be a Christian and say I'm pro-choice. I don't personally know what God has in store for the woman. This might be necessary for her to grow close to God again for all we know, from her sorrow when she realizes what she has done. You have to remember our earthly flesh is nothing, it is our souls that matter. Aborted fetuses souls go straight to heaven in my beliefs. I just bemoan the fact it could be a Madame Curie or Beethoven that is aborted.

So what's your take? If you're against, explain please, you never can tell, you might change minds with eloquent words.

Zdzd657's photo
Fri 03/22/13 11:31 AM
Autonomy autonomy autonomy!

oldhippie1952's photo
Fri 03/22/13 05:27 PM
Only one brave enough to speak up and he supports freedom.

no photo
Fri 03/22/13 06:26 PM
I can see if the woman was raped or if the mother’s life is at risk of death because of birth of the child. I do not agree with the aborting of a child just because the baby is an inconvenience.

I did ask a question once, if the guy is required by law to pay for the raising of the child, should the man have a say in the aborting of a child, especial if the girl used trickery to get pregnant as a means to try and keep the guy. I did find it interesting that many of the women put the blame solely on the man for not wearing a condom or keeping his pants. However, unless it is rape the woman is partly responsible, she also can keep her pants on and take step to keep from getting pregnant. If both agree to participate and both should have a say.

mightymoe's photo
Fri 03/22/13 06:39 PM

Yeah, I'm opening that can of worms. I just wanted to see what peoples opinions are. And keep it civil, no need for the mods to scold us like children, right?

I think it is a woman's choice. Notwithstanding the argument you are killing some child, I still do not feel I can project my values on another.

Some of you may wonder how I can be a Christian and say I'm pro-choice. I don't personally know what God has in store for the woman. This might be necessary for her to grow close to God again for all we know, from her sorrow when she realizes what she has done. You have to remember our earthly flesh is nothing, it is our souls that matter. Aborted fetuses souls go straight to heaven in my beliefs. I just bemoan the fact it could be a Madame Curie or Beethoven that is aborted.

So what's your take? If you're against, explain please, you never can tell, you might change minds with eloquent words.



i think it should be only the womans choice, no body elses...

kc0003's photo
Fri 03/22/13 06:46 PM


Yeah, I'm opening that can of worms. I just wanted to see what peoples opinions are. And keep it civil, no need for the mods to scold us like children, right?

I think it is a woman's choice. Notwithstanding the argument you are killing some child, I still do not feel I can project my values on another.

Some of you may wonder how I can be a Christian and say I'm pro-choice. I don't personally know what God has in store for the woman. This might be necessary for her to grow close to God again for all we know, from her sorrow when she realizes what she has done. You have to remember our earthly flesh is nothing, it is our souls that matter. Aborted fetuses souls go straight to heaven in my beliefs. I just bemoan the fact it could be a Madame Curie or Beethoven that is aborted.

So what's your take? If you're against, explain please, you never can tell, you might change minds with eloquent words.



i think it should be only the womans choice, no body elses...

agreed.
I thought that was decided 40 years ago, but as we saw today (in ND) and a couple of weeks ago in the state where I now live,(AR) the debate is far from over. (so much for less government)

willing2's photo
Fri 03/22/13 06:59 PM
Great idea to abort Libs and Progressives.

Should there be an age limit on aborting them?smokin

dmckinnon's photo
Fri 03/22/13 07:03 PM
Abortion is murder; plain and simple.

msharmony's photo
Fri 03/22/13 07:21 PM
I think it takes two to create one

I dont think parent gender should give either parent an exclusive right to the life they created togather

I dont agree with abortion, or any other premeditated taking of a natural human life

Dodo_David's photo
Fri 03/22/13 07:23 PM
I wonder if women seeking abortions would do so if they could hear the heartbeats of the little ones inside them.

msharmony's photo
Fri 03/22/13 07:27 PM
desperation and convenience lead to alot of fleeting decisions in this life

and the daggon pressure of society to look a certain way,, many women really dont want the 'physical sacrifice' for those nine months,,,and the change to their bodies,,etc,,,,

no photo
Fri 03/22/13 07:38 PM
If people have such a problem with abortion they should find a way to remove an unwanted fetus and implant it into a woman who wants to carry it to full term. We have so much technology, I don't know why this is not possible.

People who don't want children should not have them. No one should force a woman to give birth.

Stupid teenagers on meth or drugs who just screw without thinking and don't bother to use birth control and get pregnant don't deserve to have children.








msharmony's photo
Fri 03/22/13 07:40 PM

If people have such a problem with abortion they should find a way to remove an unwanted fetus and implant it into a woman who wants to carry it to full term. We have so much technology, I don't know why this is not possible.

People who don't want children should not have them. No one should force a woman to give birth.

Stupid teenagers on meth or drugs who just screw without thinking and don't bother to use birth control and get pregnant don't deserve to have children.









there is adoption,

and responsible sex is less costly and invasive than implanting fetuses into women,,,

but people consider those things more taboo apparently than casual sex or abortion,,,,

no photo
Fri 03/22/13 07:46 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Fri 03/22/13 07:49 PM

there is adoption,

and responsible sex is less costly and invasive than implanting fetuses into women,,,

but people consider those things more taboo apparently than casual sex or abortion,,,,




I'm all for responsible sex, but teens on drugs are stupid. They don't THINK.

The children end up in the welfare system. Adoption is not easy either. It would be very hard to give up a child after carrying it and having it. They are often just neglected by parents who are hooked on drugs, or grandparents end up with the responsibility.. who should not have to raise their kids children.





no photo
Fri 03/22/13 07:53 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Fri 03/22/13 08:07 PM
My point is people who scream that abortion is murder probably have not been faced with the reality of being responsible for an unwanted child or children and while they can make suggestions about "adoption" they don't really know what that involves.

It is easy to have an opinion when you are not face to face with the problem.

I don't see many anti-abortion proponents offering to adopt and raise these unwanted children.




1Cynderella's photo
Fri 03/22/13 08:05 PM
Edited by 1Cynderella on Fri 03/22/13 08:05 PM

...they should find a way to remove an unwanted fetus and implant it into a woman who wants to carry it to full term. We have so much technology, I don't know why this is not possible.



flowerforyou

I have wondered this myself. I would have been at the front of the line for an unwanted fetus!

It seems they are too busy making test tube and designer babies to care about all the unwanted ones thrown in the medical waste dump. It really upsets me! sick

no photo
Fri 03/22/13 08:08 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Fri 03/22/13 08:09 PM
They are even working hard on cloning people. geeeze... noway
I think we have the technology.

We should also have the technology for better birth control.

1Cynderella's photo
Fri 03/22/13 08:14 PM
Edited by 1Cynderella on Fri 03/22/13 08:15 PM

They are even working hard on cloning people. geeeze... noway
I think we have the technology.

We should also have the technology for better birth control.

I'll second that! Abortion need not even be an issue at all if we put our resources on the cause instead of arguing the effects.

msharmony's photo
Fri 03/22/13 08:58 PM

My point is people who scream that abortion is murder probably have not been faced with the reality of being responsible for an unwanted child or children and while they can make suggestions about "adoption" they don't really know what that involves.

It is easy to have an opinion when you are not face to face with the problem.

I don't see many anti-abortion proponents offering to adopt and raise these unwanted children.






I would bet there are quite a few anti abortion folks who do actually adopt and raise unwanted children


but that is beside the point,,,,not eveyone is able to take on children, yet I wouldnt think that should stop them from speaking up about children being abused or neglected

similarly, I think its irrelevant to not supporting abortion,,,,

Mortman's photo
Fri 03/22/13 10:05 PM

I wonder if women seeking abortions would do so if they could hear the heartbeats of the little ones inside them.

Some do. That's already a law in some place, and even in places where it's not the law, the mother-to-be can opt for an abortion even after hearing the heartbeat.

It isn't murder, up to or after the 25th week, and even the "late-term abortions." Having known people with severe birth defects, I'm actually in favor of allowing late-term abortions for those.

I've had a kid with my wife, and that kid had almost no personality for the first several months. I had had several debates about abortion and the viability of the child and even about when the kids start to feel pain. I know some people are absolutely sure that fetuses feel pain, but some of those people are the same who said that Teri Schiavo was smiling and not brain-dead. Then the autopsy shows her brain atrophied down to the size of a walnut. No. I'm not convinced. I seriously doubt that fetuses feel pain, and I doubt it's all that cruel, except to the parents, to abort an embryo or fetus.

It really should only be a choice for the parents and especially the mother.

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