My point is people who scream that abortion is murder probably have not been faced with the reality of being responsible for an unwanted child or children and while they can make suggestions about "adoption" they don't really know what that involves.

It is easy to have an opinion when you are not face to face with the problem.

I don't see many anti-abortion proponents offering to adopt and raise these unwanted children.

I would bet there are quite a few anti abortion folks who do actually adopt and raise unwanted children


but that is beside the point,,,,not eveyone is able to take on children, yet I wouldnt think that should stop them from speaking up about children being abused or neglected

similarly, I think its irrelevant to not supporting abortion,,,,

Great idea to abort Libs and Progressives.

Should there be an age limit on aborting them?

Abortion is murder; plain and simple.

I'm definitely not against it. Just make sure you discuss it with your lover, before doing so.

I don't care about passive people who "don't support" abortion or who just have an opinion about what they think they would do if faced with that problem of unwanted pregnancy in the family; they just want to preach and pass judgement on other people who choose abortion. People they don't even know. Its really none of their business now is it? Especially if they are not willing to step up to the plate and provide a home for these unwanted children or help these pregnant teenagers who keep doing drugs and popping out a child every year that they can't even take care of.

I like pets, at least you can spay and neuter them.

Do you know what happens to these children? If the state knows about them, they become wards of the state and foster children. If not, they are brought up with neglect and abuse by parents that can't take care of them.

I have family members who don't believe in abortion and who have stepped up to the plate, raising other people's children because their mothers are irresponsible addicts. They are now faced with raising two black and two white children that should have never been conceived or born in the first place. They have a right to their anti-abortion opinions I would say. They walk the walk, but I don't think they can handle much more.

P.S. oops I forgot about the first one, who is now in the service and was taken in at the age of 15. That makes three black children they have taken in and are raising. (I consider him to be raised to completion.) If it were not for that, he would have ended up in prison like so many others.

So if you won't or can't walk the walk, then your opinion on abortion is your own personal one to be used in your own individual situation. You have no right to tell other people what they can or must do in that situation.

I would bet there are quite a few anti abortion folks who do actually adopt and raise unwanted children


but that is beside the point,,,,not eveyone is able to take on children, yet I wouldnt think that should stop them from speaking up about children being abused or neglected

similarly, I think its irrelevant to not supporting abortion,,,,

why is that irrelevant? SOMEONE has to raise the kid, it doesn't just come able to raise itself! If someone can't handle it and no one else wants to, what good is that gonna do for anyone? The kid will lead a ****ed up life because of it, is that fair to it to be burdened with that because of the mistakes of the parent? If it can't be raised properly, it almost is better off not existing really from that perspective.

I don't think abortion should be used as an easy out for not being responsible for yourself that said, but......I think the topic of what happens to these unwanted kids is VERY relevant, it will shape the rest of their lives.

If I remember correctly, if you murder a pregnant mother you are charged with two homicides. So why is abortion not considered murder?

yes, society may have to pay to keep a child safe or alive,, oh the DREAD,,,,




it cant be raised properly DEAD, and we dont know how properly it will be raised until someone is RAISING It,,,

and yes, what happesn to them is important to discuss,


but my not being able to 'step up' to raise someones child, is irrelevant to me stepping in to protect that child if they are facing death or harm,,,,

yes, society may have to pay to keep a child safe or alive,, oh the DREAD,,,,




it cant be raised properly DEAD, and we dont know how properly it will be raised until someone is RAISING It,,,

and yes, what happesn to them is important to discuss,


but my not being able to 'step up' to raise someones child, is irrelevant to me stepping in to protect that child if they are facing death or harm,,,,

Preventing a woman from having a free choice of whether or not to have an abortion is not "protecting a child" so don't pat yourself on the back for "saving a child" unless you intend to raise that "child" after it is born.

A fetus is not a "child." If you want to "protect" children you will have to wait until after they are born.

well, doctors wanted my mother to abort me,,, so actually someones decision to stop that action (namely my mother) did SAVE A CHILD,,

of course saving a life is saving a life,, regardless of the circumstances or who felt the right to determine the fate of that life,,,

but

thats an opinion and the center of the debate is the perception of when life becomes valuable enough to protect

when it is a 'fetus', or a 'child' or a 'teen' or whatever stage of life,,,

many dont think it should count as a seperate life until its born, others disagree....

well, doctors wanted my mother to abort me,,, so actually someones decision to stop that action (namely my mother) did SAVE A CHILD,,

of course saving a life is saving a life,, regardless of the circumstances or who felt the right to determine the fate of that life,,,

but

thats an opinion and the center of the debate is the perception of when life becomes valuable enough to protect

when it is a 'fetus', or a 'child' or a 'teen' or whatever stage of life,,,

many dont think it should count as a seperate life until its born, others disagree....

Um... why?

There are "lovers" and there are "husbands" and then there are the "sperm doners."

If you are uncertain about what you want, and you have a responsible partner you can raise a child with, by all means... discuss it with him. But that is an option. You are not obligated to do so.

Well of course "others disagree." You are not saying anything new.

The question is not at what stage a life is valuable enough to protect. The question is when that life is growing inside of a woman's body, who has the right to tell that woman what she can do about it.

It is her life and her body. Nobody owns that but HER. She has dominion. She has the final say and only she can make that decision. Others don't have to agree and others don't have to like it.

That's the law.

jeannie, what would you like me to be? I prefer to be a sperm doner..