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Topic: Abortion
msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Sun 03/24/13 01:24 PM
You what's even worse than abortion? What happens to babies born with their hearts on the outside of their chests that have no insurance. I used to date a nurse that witnessed these babies being laid out on stainless steel tables and left crying, alone, in the dark to die. Babies with parents that have health insurance get surgery and go on to live healthy lives. How about if we focus on the babies that are here now and forget about the ones that get aborted? Maybe then there will be fewer abortions. there are plenty of issues to be concerned about, insurance is another issue that needs to evolve the condition you mention is very rare actually, much more rare than abortion,,, The rarity is beside the point. There are dying babies that could saved if their moms and dads had money. Wouldn't it have been better to abort that fetus before it was born? in my opinion, no it would not,,, I dont believe in the kind of psychic ability that can know a childs quality of life before it is ever born,,, Fine, but if you knew the child would only live for a few hours and die suffering? Id rather leave life and death to God, I accept suffering as a part of life,,, I think it's a poor god that allows the innocent to suffer. I think its a wise God that finds the way to teach unconditional love in many different way, including through the example of those who love the suffering, and the suffering who continue to love others,,, Tell that to the dying babies. Im sure God has that covered Yeah, that's right. "You little babies have to suffer and learn unconditional love while the rich live off your parents labor. Work hard to learn little ones because you have only a few hours to live." This kind of BS makes me want to puke. It's a cruel god you worship. And even if I thought he was real I'd still turn my back on him. mixing issues again,, God allows the free will that creates a system where 'the rich live off parents labor' He didnt mandate or create it, he allowed man to but to each his own, we all worshp our own 'God' and have our own understanding of justice and balance,,,

TexasScoundrel Joined Wed 10/29/08 Posts: 3693	Sun 03/24/13 01:33 PM
mixing issues again,, God allows the free will that creates a system where 'the rich live off parents labor' He didnt mandate or create it, he allowed man to but to each his own, we all worshp our own 'God' and have our own understanding of justice and balance,,, Nonsense. If god has the power to end suffering and doesn't then he is is less moral than most people. I could understand the suffering caused by one's own mistakes, but not the suffering caused by nature (god himself)or other people's crimes.

msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Sun 03/24/13 01:38 PM
mixing issues again,, God allows the free will that creates a system where 'the rich live off parents labor' He didnt mandate or create it, he allowed man to but to each his own, we all worshp our own 'God' and have our own understanding of justice and balance,,, Nonsense. If god has the power to end suffering and doesn't then he is is less moral than most people. I could understand the suffering caused by one's own mistakes, but not the suffering caused by nature (god himself)or other people's crimes. and people have the power to stop suffering too, they have the power to call on God and believe in God,,, actions are not without consequences our flesh encourage us to remove consequence so we may have endless pleasure without disconfort, illness, or suffering but that is not balance and will never happen if that seems 'immoral' to some, so be it suffering makes us stronger, that is part of our journey, if that is considered an 'immoral' Godly attribute to some so be it there is a balance to life, it involves reward and suffering, and I believe that to be the Glory of Gods power, the balance,, and not immorality,,

Jeanniebean Joined Wed 01/30/08 Posts: 40028	Sun 03/24/13 07:50 PM
News flash: We (humans) are God made flesh. We create our own suffering and only we can end our own (and others) suffering. I grow tired of people who continue to spread the lie of us being separate from this oneness we call "God." But when you believe that you are separate from God, then you can blame God for all the ills of the world and you can absolve yourself of any responsibility for what you created.

noblemagi Joined Tue 03/26/13 Posts: 2	Tue 03/26/13 08:30 AM
I say after the first trimester then it's murder this will cover everyone equally, and fairly.

noblemagi Joined Tue 03/26/13 Posts: 2	Tue 03/26/13 08:31 AM Edited by noblemagi on Tue 03/26/13 08:34 AM
for those for late term abortion, I think we should start with them. if they are okay with killing a child, then I am okay with killing them.

msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Tue 03/26/13 07:14 PM
Im not for killing human beings unless it is as a means of self defense and the last resort,,,

Jeanniebean Joined Wed 01/30/08 Posts: 40028	Wed 03/27/13 10:52 AM
Im not for killing human beings unless it is as a means of self defense and the last resort,,, That's nice to know. I know people who kill human beings for the government and actually love their jobs.

msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Wed 03/27/13 06:50 PM
Im not for killing human beings unless it is as a means of self defense and the last resort,,, That's nice to know. I know people who kill human beings for the government and actually love their jobs. although killing is sometimes necessary , anyone who actually 'loves' taking a life has issues in my opinion,,,

willing2 Joined Sun 06/08/08 Posts: 20221	Wed 03/27/13 06:57 PM
Im not for killing human beings unless it is as a means of self defense and the last resort,,, That's nice to know. I know people who kill human beings for the government and actually love their jobs. Yep. Barry killed Bin Laden and bragged about it.

msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Wed 03/27/13 07:11 PM
Im not for killing human beings unless it is as a means of self defense and the last resort,,, That's nice to know. I know people who kill human beings for the government and actually love their jobs. Yep. Barry killed Bin Laden and bragged about it. he bragged about the job the seals did with a task that took the entire military nearly a decade they were worth bragging about, because they are the bomb at what they do, the training they undergo, and the risk they are under anyone who can make it into the seals, deserves credit for their discipline and endurance,,,,

willing2 Joined Sun 06/08/08 Posts: 20221	Wed 03/27/13 07:18 PM Edited by willing2 on Wed 03/27/13 07:20 PM
Im not for killing human beings unless it is as a means of self defense and the last resort,,, That's nice to know. I know people who kill human beings for the government and actually love their jobs. Yep. Barry killed Bin Laden and bragged about it. he bragged about the job the seals did with a task that took the entire military nearly a decade they were worth bragging about, because they are the bomb at what they do, the training they undergo, and the risk they are under anyone who can make it into the seals, deserves credit for their discipline and endurance,,,, Barry said he killed Bin Laden. They are all dead now. They have been aborted.

alleoops Joined Sat 08/06/11 Posts: 10832	Wed 03/27/13 07:21 PM
Im not for killing human beings unless it is as a means of self defense and the last resort,,, That's nice to know. I know people who kill human beings for the government and actually love their jobs. You know too much....

msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Wed 03/27/13 07:43 PM
Im not for killing human beings unless it is as a means of self defense and the last resort,,, That's nice to know. I know people who kill human beings for the government and actually love their jobs. Yep. Barry killed Bin Laden and bragged about it. he bragged about the job the seals did with a task that took the entire military nearly a decade they were worth bragging about, because they are the bomb at what they do, the training they undergo, and the risk they are under anyone who can make it into the seals, deserves credit for their discipline and endurance,,,, Barry said he killed Bin Laden. They are all dead now. They have been aborted. he never said he killed bin laden bin laden was taken out by the seals, thats just the facts,,, thats not bragging,,

Jeanniebean Joined Wed 01/30/08 Posts: 40028	Wed 03/27/13 08:17 PM
Im not for killing human beings unless it is as a means of self defense and the last resort,,, That's nice to know. I know people who kill human beings for the government and actually love their jobs. Yep. Barry killed Bin Laden and bragged about it. he bragged about the job the seals did with a task that took the entire military nearly a decade they were worth bragging about, because they are the bomb at what they do, the training they undergo, and the risk they are under anyone who can make it into the seals, deserves credit for their discipline and endurance,,,, Barry said he killed Bin Laden. They are all dead now. They have been aborted. he never said he killed bin laden bin laden was taken out by the seals, thats just the facts,,, thats not bragging,, Yeh, giving the order and pulling the trigger are two different jobs.

Jeanniebean Joined Wed 01/30/08 Posts: 40028	Wed 03/27/13 08:18 PM Edited by Jeanniebean on Wed 03/27/13 08:20 PM
Im not for killing human beings unless it is as a means of self defense and the last resort,,, That's nice to know. I know people who kill human beings for the government and actually love their jobs. You know too much.... yep. My aunt did taxes for the entire county... she knew more than she wanted to know about people... I just know people in low places...