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Topic: Can mary save?
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Sat 12/15/12 01:45 PM

. When you die/pass away on this Earth, that is not the end Funches lol. The person is not "dead", they are only "dead" in secular terms.


they are "The Undead"...


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Sun 12/16/12 01:15 AM


. When you die/pass away on this Earth, that is not the end Funches lol. The person is not "dead", they are only "dead" in secular terms.


they are "The Undead"...




???

One is dead when life ends. When this mortal body dies, that does not mean your life has ended, only the life in the flesh.

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Sun 12/16/12 05:24 AM



Pop me back into reality? Again, what are you talking about Funches? Yeah, people may be able to kill this body, this temporary shell, but NO one can kill my soul.


except Baal



Not even Baal lol.


yes Baal ...because in the bible Baal is a God...and according to your post below Baal has authority over you because he is of one God

POSTED BY COWBOY:
"God" means authority. If two beings have authority over someone/something, they are both one "god", they are both one "authority". http://mingle2.com/topic/show/339822?page=12 post 19


see Cowboy...this is what happens when you google cut and paste off those Satan Websites


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Sun 12/16/12 05:32 AM



. When you die/pass away on this Earth, that is not the end Funches lol. The person is not "dead", they are only "dead" in secular terms.


they are "The Undead"...




???

One is dead when life ends. When this mortal body dies, that does not mean your life has ended, only the life in the flesh.


that's why it's called "The Undead" ...you're a ghost..

also it seems that women ghost still have to cover their heads...because everytime someone claim they seen the virgin Mary appear as a spirit or in their corn flakes she always have on a head covering ..

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Sun 12/16/12 07:42 AM




Pop me back into reality? Again, what are you talking about Funches? Yeah, people may be able to kill this body, this temporary shell, but NO one can kill my soul.


except Baal



Not even Baal lol.


yes Baal ...because in the bible Baal is a God...and according to your post below Baal has authority over you because he is of one God

POSTED BY COWBOY:
"God" means authority. If two beings have authority over someone/something, they are both one "god", they are both one "authority". http://mingle2.com/topic/show/339822?page=12 post 19


see Cowboy...this is what happens when you google cut and paste off those Satan Websites




What are you talking about Funches? Baal has absolutely no control over me. Where does it say he IS God?

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Sun 12/16/12 10:51 AM

What are you talking about Funches? Baal has absolutely no control over me.


apparently the Jews felt the same about Jesus..so according to your theory Jesus had absolutely no control over them


Where does it say he IS God?


where does Jesus "specifically" say that "He is God"

Cowboy..you yourself already acknowledge that "Baal was worshipped as God" and as you stated in the post below "God" means "authority" and they are both of one "God"

POSTED BY COWBOY:
"God" means authority. If two beings have authority over someone/something, they are both one "god", they are both one "authority".http://mingle2.com/topic/show/339822?page=12 post 19


all of your posts points to Baal being God and having authority

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Sun 12/16/12 11:57 AM

Y do people believe in mary to d extend of worshiping her?
The Orthodox and Catholic churches consider her a Saint. She is generally more venerated than worshiped.

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Sun 12/16/12 01:19 PM


What are you talking about Funches? Baal has absolutely no control over me.


apparently the Jews felt the same about Jesus..so according to your theory Jesus had absolutely no control over them


Where does it say he IS God?


where does Jesus "specifically" say that "He is God"

Cowboy..you yourself already acknowledge that "Baal was worshipped as God" and as you stated in the post below "God" means "authority" and they are both of one "God"

POSTED BY COWBOY:
"God" means authority. If two beings have authority over someone/something, they are both one "god", they are both one "authority".http://mingle2.com/topic/show/339822?page=12 post 19


all of your posts points to Baal being God and having authority



apparently the Jews felt the same about Jesus..so according to your theory Jesus had absolutely no control over them


Jesus has entirely all authority over them. But he did not come to judge anyone when he was here, he came to fulfill the covenant and give us a new one signed with his blood.


where does Jesus "specifically" say that "He is God"


Isaiah 41:13
13 For I the Lord thy God will hold thy right hand, saying unto thee, Fear not; I will help thee.

In the next two verses notice it is Jesus speaking and he says "Thy" God, or in our language today, "Your" God.

Matthew 4:7
7 Jesus said unto him, It is written again, Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God.

Luke 4:12
12 And Jesus answering said unto him, It is said, Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God.


all of your posts points to Baal being God and having authority


Give one example of where I have shown baal to have "authority" over someone's soul, over someone's eternal well being.

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Sun 12/16/12 04:22 PM

Isaiah 41:13
13 For I the Lord thy God will hold thy right hand, saying unto thee, Fear not; I will help thee.


this is from the Old Testament...the name "Jesus" is not in the Old Testament.....oh oh Cowboy....caught you being deceptive


In the next two verses notice it is Jesus speaking and he says "Thy" God, or in our language today, "Your" God.


nope....sorry but you're wrong as ususal...don't worry you will understand why


Matthew 4:7
7 Jesus said unto him, It is written again, Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God.


Jesus was talking to Satan and referred to himself not as God but as "The Son of God" as indicated in the passage below

POSTED BY SATAN:
Matthew 4:6
And saith unto him, If thou be the Son of God, cast thyself down:


see Cowboy..Jesus claimed to be the son of God...not God


Luke 4:12
12 And Jesus answering said unto him, It is said, Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God.


again Jesus referred to himself as not God but as The Son of God as indicated in the post below

POSTED BY SATAN:
Luke 4:9
And he brought him to Jerusalem, and set him on a pinnacle of the temple, and said unto him, If thou be the Son of God, cast thyself down from hence:


so you see Cowboy..Jesus never said that he was God..

when Jesus said don't tempt the Lord thy God...he was probably referring to Baal who was worshipped as a God

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Sun 12/16/12 04:37 PM


Isaiah 41:13
13 For I the Lord thy God will hold thy right hand, saying unto thee, Fear not; I will help thee.


this is from the Old Testament...the name "Jesus" is not in the Old Testament.....oh oh Cowboy....caught you being deceptive


In the next two verses notice it is Jesus speaking and he says "Thy" God, or in our language today, "Your" God.


nope....sorry but you're wrong as ususal...don't worry you will understand why


Matthew 4:7
7 Jesus said unto him, It is written again, Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God.


Jesus was talking to Satan and referred to himself not as God but as "The Son of God" as indicated in the passage below

POSTED BY SATAN:
Matthew 4:6
And saith unto him, If thou be the Son of God, cast thyself down:


see Cowboy..Jesus claimed to be the son of God...not God


Luke 4:12
12 And Jesus answering said unto him, It is said, Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God.


again Jesus referred to himself as not God but as The Son of God as indicated in the post below

POSTED BY SATAN:
Luke 4:9
And he brought him to Jerusalem, and set him on a pinnacle of the temple, and said unto him, If thou be the Son of God, cast thyself down from hence:


so you see Cowboy..Jesus never said that he was God..

when Jesus said don't tempt the Lord thy God...he was probably referring to Baal who was worshipped as a God



this is from the Old Testament...the name "Jesus" is not in the Old Testament.....oh oh Cowboy....caught you being deceptive


No, the name "Jesus" is not found in the old testament. He did not have this "title/name" until he took on a form in the flesh and dwelt among us. But that is why in some places it says "LORD God" and "God" through out the old testament. To separate the persons and give a more in depth description on who is being referred to.


Jesus was talking to Satan and referred to himself not as God but as "The Son of God" as indicated in the passage below


Jesus is God and the son of God. Jesus is OUR God. AGAIN after AGAIN "God" is not denoted to one singular being. It is a TITLE, not a species, not a type of being, but a TITLE of a being. That's why it ALWAYS says the Lord THY God. And when Jesus referres to his father, he ONLY says HIS God. But to us, they are ONE God, they BOTH have authority over us.


so you see Cowboy..Jesus never said that he was God..

when Jesus said don't tempt the Lord thy God...he was probably referring to Baal who was worshipped as a God


Same explanation as the other quotes. Jesus is OUR God.

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Sun 12/16/12 05:44 PM
Edited by funches on Sun 12/16/12 05:44 PM

No, the name "Jesus" is not found in the old testament.


then quit jerking around as if it is there

Jesus is God and the son of God.


last week you claim that Jesus was The Holy Spirit and was wrong about that

so allow me to present the same passage that proves that Jesus is not God nor the holy spirit but just the son (adopted)


Matthew 3:17
And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up immediately out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him:
And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.


so Cowboy..stop spreading false gospel ..no where in the bible did Jesus say he was God

but Baal is worshipped as God in the bible ..so praise Baal





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Sun 12/16/12 06:16 PM
Edited by CowboyGH on Sun 12/16/12 06:17 PM


No, the name "Jesus" is not found in the old testament.


then quit jerking around as if it is there

Jesus is God and the son of God.


last week you claim that Jesus was The Holy Spirit and was wrong about that

so allow me to present the same passage that proves that Jesus is not God nor the holy spirit but just the son (adopted)


Matthew 3:17
And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up immediately out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him:
And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.


so Cowboy..stop spreading false gospel ..no where in the bible did Jesus say he was God

but Baal is worshipped as God in the bible ..so praise Baal







You say I lie with your twisting of words I have said, yet you straight up lie?

Jesus has said multiple times that he is God.

Isaiah 41:13
13 For I the Lord thy God will hold thy right hand, saying unto thee, Fear not; I will help thee.

Jesus is God, his father is God, they are BOTH God. Jesus the son, the Holy Ghost, and the Father are all one God. Again after again after again after again, "God" is not a word denoted to specifically just one being. It is not a being in specifics, it is a TITLE. Jesus is OUR God, because HE has authority over us. His law is the law, no other law matters but his.


then quit jerking around as if it is there


What are you talking about Funches? The NAME "Jesus" is not in the old testament because he did not have that name yet, he had not taken on the form of a servant in the form of a person. The name "Jesus" PURELY only applies when speaking of our God in the flesh.

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Mon 12/17/12 06:00 AM

What are you talking about Funches? The NAME "Jesus" is not in the old testament because he did not have that name yet, .


which is why common sense would dictate that you attempt to find his name in The New Testament in a passage in which Jesus "specifically" said that he is God

but of course you know such a passage "doesn't exist" (no religious pun intended)

and this is why Jesus nor Mary should be worshipped


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Mon 12/17/12 06:39 AM


What are you talking about Funches? The NAME "Jesus" is not in the old testament because he did not have that name yet, .


which is why common sense would dictate that you attempt to find his name in The New Testament in a passage in which Jesus "specifically" said that he is God

but of course you know such a passage "doesn't exist" (no religious pun intended)

and this is why Jesus nor Mary should be worshipped




Matthew 1:23
23 Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.

John 1:1
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
John 1:14
14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

John 5:17-18
17 But Jesus answered them, My Father worketh hitherto, and I work.

18 Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God.

John 20:28
28 And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God.

Acts 20:28
28 Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.

Philippians 2:5-7
5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:

6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:

7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:

1 Timothy 3:16
16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

Titus 2:13
13 Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;


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Mon 12/17/12 08:50 AM

Matthew 1:23
23 Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.

John 1:1
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
John 1:14
14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

John 5:17-18
17 But Jesus answered them, My Father worketh hitherto, and I work.

18 Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God.

John 20:28
28 And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God.

Acts 20:28
28 Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.

Philippians 2:5-7
5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:

6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:

7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:

1 Timothy 3:16
16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

Titus 2:13
13 Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;


Cowboy..now you know that none of those passages did Jesus "specifically" say that he is God ...most of the passages is not even him speaking

it's time to sign the surrender papers


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Mon 12/17/12 09:30 AM


Matthew 1:23
23 Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.

John 1:1
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
John 1:14
14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

John 5:17-18
17 But Jesus answered them, My Father worketh hitherto, and I work.

18 Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God.

John 20:28
28 And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God.

Acts 20:28
28 Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.

Philippians 2:5-7
5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:

6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:

7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:

1 Timothy 3:16
16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

Titus 2:13
13 Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;


Cowboy..now you know that none of those passages did Jesus "specifically" say that he is God ...most of the passages is not even him speaking

it's time to sign the surrender papers




18 Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God.

Luke 4:12
12 And Jesus answering said unto him, It is said, Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God.

Luke 10:27
27 And he answering said, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind; and thy neighbor as thyself.

Love the Lord eg., Jesus Christ YOUR God.

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Mon 12/17/12 09:51 AM
Edited by funches on Mon 12/17/12 09:53 AM

18 Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God.

Luke 4:12
12 And Jesus answering said unto him, It is said, Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God.

Luke 10:27
27 And he answering said, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind; and thy neighbor as thyself.

Love the Lord eg., Jesus Christ YOUR God.


we already been through Luke....in Luke Jesus was referred to as The Son of God ..not God

also in those passage you presented Jesus said to love the lord..he didn't say that he was "God"

if Jesus was God.. Mary would have been worshipped

come on Cowboy..sign the surrender papers


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Mon 12/17/12 09:55 AM
Edited by CowboyGH on Mon 12/17/12 09:57 AM


18 Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God.

Luke 4:12
12 And Jesus answering said unto him, It is said, Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God.

Luke 10:27
27 And he answering said, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind; and thy neighbor as thyself.

Love the Lord eg., Jesus Christ YOUR God.


we already been through Luke....in Luke Jesus was referred to as The Son of God ..not God

also in those passage you presented Jesus said to love the lord..he didn't say that he was "God"

if Jesus was God.. Mary would have been worshipped

come on Cowboy..sign the surrender papers




You're just being weird now Funches.

The lord THY God, the lord YOUR God.

Both the luke verses have Jesus specifically saying he is God, he is OUR God. And I've already showed in the past where it was the LORD God that made mankind eg., Jesus. He is the ONLY Lord God.

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Mon 12/17/12 10:04 AM



18 Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God.

Luke 4:12
12 And Jesus answering said unto him, It is said, Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God.

Luke 10:27
27 And he answering said, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind; and thy neighbor as thyself.

Love the Lord eg., Jesus Christ YOUR God.


we already been through Luke....in Luke Jesus was referred to as The Son of God ..not God

also in those passage you presented Jesus said to love the lord..he didn't say that he was "God"

if Jesus was God.. Mary would have been worshipped

come on Cowboy..sign the surrender papers




You're just being weird now Funches.

The lord THY God, the lord YOUR God.

Both the luke verses have Jesus specifically saying he is God, he is OUR God. And I've already showed in the past where it was the LORD God that made mankind eg., Jesus. He is the ONLY Lord God.


And yes he is the son of God as well. Him and his father are one God. Again, "God" is not denoted to specifically a being, it's not a species. It's a title.

The Father and Jesus are one God. When Jesus says "My Father and I are one", the word translated into one is referring to goals and actions. Not physically one.

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Mon 12/17/12 10:04 AM

You're just being weird now Funches.

The lord THY God, the lord YOUR God.

Both the luck verses have Jesus specifically saying he is God, he is OUR God. And I've already showed in the past where it was the LORD God that made mankind eg., Jesus. He is the ONLY Lord God.


sorry Cowboy...read Luke 4:9

then sign the surrender papers

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