Topic: Can mary save?
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Tue 12/18/12 12:10 PM

Heaven is not a foreign place.


so where in the USA is Heaven?

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Tue 12/18/12 12:36 PM


But these people aren't "dead". Some of them may be,


the master of contradiction


I know not what judgement each and everyone received due to their life styles. But this mortal body was born to die, it is not eternal as of now.

Satan tempts people to do things that in the end will kill their soul, will kill them eternally. God offers life eternal.


if you claim that people have "Free Will"....then why do you keep trying to blame temptation....Jesus didn't tempt anyone if they wanted to be drowned...he just Drown them


Do you always compare two things that have absolutely nothing to do with one another? Even outside of these "discussions"?

Tempting someone is trying to get someone to do something. Dying and or in this case "drowning" is not an action one days, so has absolutely nothing to do with free will.

So there was nothing to be tempted of with this.

And again, so what if they drowned? You wouldn't trade a few minutes of misery for an eternal life? For eternal paradise? You really think they would have a grudge on God for those few minutes of pain when they received an eternal life of pure happiness and love?

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Tue 12/18/12 12:38 PM


Heaven is not a foreign place.


so where in the USA is Heaven?


o.O again, what are you talking about?

You were not "created" in the USA. You were "born" in the USA, but that is not when you were created. You're speaking of this flesh, and again this flesh is purely temporary. It is not "you", it is just a shell for your use in the mean time.

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Wed 12/19/12 05:43 AM

Do you always compare two things that have absolutely nothing to do with one another? Even outside of these "discussions"?

Tempting someone is trying to get someone to do something. Dying and or in this case "drowning" is not an action one days, so has absolutely nothing to do with free will.

So there was nothing to be tempted of with this.


Jesus drowned those people because he failed to "tempt" them over to his way of thinking


And again, so what if they drowned? You wouldn't trade a few minutes of misery for an eternal life? For eternal paradise?


your thinking ventures on the edge of sociopathic and depression,


You really think they would have a grudge on God for those few minutes of pain when they received an eternal life of pure happiness and love?


yes Cowboy...generally people tend to hold grudges against others including Alien Beings that attempt to murder them

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Wed 12/19/12 05:48 AM



Heaven is not a foreign place.


so where in the USA is Heaven?


o.O again, what are you talking about?

You were not "created" in the USA. You were "born" in the USA, but that is not when you were created. You're speaking of this flesh, and again this flesh is purely temporary. It is not "you", it is just a shell for your use in the mean time.


Cowboy....you're acting just like one of those con-man preachers that go around spreading false gospel along with lies and delusions

so again if Heaven is not a forgeign place...then where in the Hell....oops...I meant where in the USA is Heaven

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Wed 12/19/12 05:52 AM

You were "born" in the USA,


so was Bruce Springsteen

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Wed 12/19/12 06:22 AM
Edited by CowboyGH on Wed 12/19/12 06:25 AM


Do you always compare two things that have absolutely nothing to do with one another? Even outside of these "discussions"?

Tempting someone is trying to get someone to do something. Dying and or in this case "drowning" is not an action one days, so has absolutely nothing to do with free will.

So there was nothing to be tempted of with this.


Jesus drowned those people because he failed to "tempt" them over to his way of thinking


And again, so what if they drowned? You wouldn't trade a few minutes of misery for an eternal life? For eternal paradise?


your thinking ventures on the edge of sociopathic and depression,


You really think they would have a grudge on God for those few minutes of pain when they received an eternal life of pure happiness and love?


yes Cowboy...generally people tend to hold grudges against others including Alien Beings that attempt to murder them




Jesus drowned those people because he failed to "tempt" them over to his way of thinking


What are you talking about Funches? lol. Jesus is God, that means he is in control. If you break the kings laws, are you not punished? Sometimes even to the extent of execution? Well Jesus is the king of kings, lord of lords. Jesus is God.


your thinking ventures on the edge of sociopathic and depression,


How so? There is nothing psycopathic that I said there, and definitly nothing depressing. Do you just think of random things to respond with?


yes Cowboy...generally people tend to hold grudges against others including Alien Beings that attempt to murder them


Lol, again they are not aliens. There is no possible way for them to be aliens. Again, an alien is a being to a foreign location. God created this planet, it is not foreign to him.
And God "murders" no one. Murder is unlawful taking of another's life. God is law. You disobedy God's law, he has total right to "execute" you if that is what his final judgement is. But that is why he offers forgiveness, so he would not have to do that, if one seeks this gift.

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Wed 12/19/12 06:24 AM




Heaven is not a foreign place.


so where in the USA is Heaven?


o.O again, what are you talking about?

You were not "created" in the USA. You were "born" in the USA, but that is not when you were created. You're speaking of this flesh, and again this flesh is purely temporary. It is not "you", it is just a shell for your use in the mean time.


Cowboy....you're acting just like one of those con-man preachers that go around spreading false gospel along with lies and delusions

so again if Heaven is not a forgeign place...then where in the Hell....oops...I meant where in the USA is Heaven


??? The USA is not in Heaven. The USA is not where you were "created" is only where you were formed.

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Wed 12/19/12 08:19 AM

How so? There is nothing psycopathic that I said there, and definitly nothing depressing. Do you just think of random things to respond with?


you cheapen life by such statements

that it's ok for people even newborns to endure a little misery and die at the hands of someone because they might have eternal life

those that go around killing children probably justify doing it with the same nonsense as you are spewing


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Wed 12/19/12 08:38 AM





Heaven is not a foreign place.


so where in the USA is Heaven?


o.O again, what are you talking about?

You were not "created" in the USA. You were "born" in the USA, but that is not when you were created. You're speaking of this flesh, and again this flesh is purely temporary. It is not "you", it is just a shell for your use in the mean time.


Cowboy....you're acting just like one of those con-man preachers that go around spreading false gospel along with lies and delusions

so again if Heaven is not a forgeign place...then where in the Hell....oops...I meant where in the USA is Heaven


??? The USA is not in Heaven. The USA is not where you were "created" is only where you were formed.


I asked where a place was at, not where people were formed or created

Cowboy..you got stumped...

it's these Perry Mason moments that makes it all worthwhile

but anyway, all of this was actually on topic...the lesson was to teach why Mary can not be worshipped or save anyone...this privilege is only reserved for Aliens ..it's in their union contract

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Wed 12/19/12 09:30 AM


How so? There is nothing psycopathic that I said there, and definitly nothing depressing. Do you just think of random things to respond with?


you cheapen life by such statements

that it's ok for people even newborns to endure a little misery and die at the hands of someone because they might have eternal life

those that go around killing children probably justify doing it with the same nonsense as you are spewing




You always compare two things that have absolutely nothing to do with one another taking things out of context Funches. Please come to discuss, not to "debate".

People do not have the right to take anyone's life away, they did not give it to them in the first place. God gave life to everyone, it is his life, therefore he does have the right to take it away at any given instance. But that isn't specifically the case here, as they never lost their lives. We know not who lost or kept their livelihood, who died, who has eternal life, or any such thing. God's judgement is righteous.

And what difference does it make for someone to endure a few seconds to a few minutes of pain when in return are given eternal love and eternal well being never to feel any form of pain again?

And even IF they don't receive eternal life through God, what difference does it make? They are dead, never to have to endure any form of pain again.

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Wed 12/19/12 09:32 AM






Heaven is not a foreign place.


so where in the USA is Heaven?


o.O again, what are you talking about?

You were not "created" in the USA. You were "born" in the USA, but that is not when you were created. You're speaking of this flesh, and again this flesh is purely temporary. It is not "you", it is just a shell for your use in the mean time.


Cowboy....you're acting just like one of those con-man preachers that go around spreading false gospel along with lies and delusions

so again if Heaven is not a forgeign place...then where in the Hell....oops...I meant where in the USA is Heaven


??? The USA is not in Heaven. The USA is not where you were "created" is only where you were formed.


I asked where a place was at, not where people were formed or created

Cowboy..you got stumped...

it's these Perry Mason moments that makes it all worthwhile

but anyway, all of this was actually on topic...the lesson was to teach why Mary can not be worshipped or save anyone...this privilege is only reserved for Aliens ..it's in their union contract


Didn't get stumped, just didn't grasp the question. Heaven is not in the USA, Heaven is not on this planet. Why do you come up with things that are way totally out in left field when it hasn't been mentioned to the remotest?

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Wed 12/19/12 12:14 PM

And what difference does it make for someone to endure a few seconds to a few minutes of pain when in return are given eternal love and eternal well being never to feel any form of pain again?


the motto of the serial killer

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Wed 12/19/12 12:28 PM

Didn't get stumped, just didn't grasp the question. Heaven is not in the USA, Heaven is not on this planet.


so you worship beings that are not on this planet or from this planet ...that makes them Aliens

Why do you come up with things that are way totally out in left field when it hasn't been mentioned to the remotest?


you mean like God is three beings but one of them is not actually a being so it's really 2 beings

two beings or not two beings ...that is the question

either way...Mary can't save or be worshipped because she is not one of those Alien beings

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Wed 12/19/12 12:52 PM


Didn't get stumped, just didn't grasp the question. Heaven is not in the USA, Heaven is not on this planet.


so you worship beings that are not on this planet or from this planet ...that makes them Aliens

Why do you come up with things that are way totally out in left field when it hasn't been mentioned to the remotest?


you mean like God is three beings but one of them is not actually a being so it's really 2 beings

two beings or not two beings ...that is the question

either way...Mary can't save or be worshipped because she is not one of those Alien beings



so you worship beings that are not on this planet or from this planet ...that makes them Aliens


They are not aliens because this is not a foreign planet. THEY created this planet Funches. It's not a foreign planet they stumbled across.


two beings or not two beings ...that is the question

either way...Mary can't save or be worshipped because she is not one of those Alien beings


I worship the Father through Jesus. You are still coming up with things that were not being referred to. Jesus, the Father, and the Holy Spirit are all ONE God Funches, ONE. Again, after again, after again, after again, after again, the word "God" is not denoted to a being, species or anything of that such. It is a TITLE funches. That's why we refer to them as "God" because of what the word means/stands for. And nobody said a dern thing about Mary, where in the world did that come from? Nobody is worshiping her here, nor did anyone say anybody should.

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Wed 12/19/12 03:01 PM

They are not aliens because this is not a foreign planet. THEY created this planet Funches. It's not a foreign planet they stumbled across.


if you are not naturalized in a country you/they are an Alien...if you are not born on the same planet you/they are an Alien...if you are not even of the same species you/they are an Alien

therefore...if you worship Beings not of the same species as youself...you worship Aliens



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Wed 12/19/12 03:05 PM
Edited by funches on Wed 12/19/12 03:13 PM

And nobody said a dern thing about Mary, where in the world did that come from? Nobody is worshiping her here, nor did anyone say anybody should.


oh my Goddddddddddddddd ...oops ...I meant WTF do you think this thread is about....try and stay focus sir

REMINDER:
WTF...is short for..What The Flock


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Wed 12/19/12 04:16 PM


They are not aliens because this is not a foreign planet. THEY created this planet Funches. It's not a foreign planet they stumbled across.


if you are not naturalized in a country you/they are an Alien...if you are not born on the same planet you/they are an Alien...if you are not even of the same species you/they are an Alien

therefore...if you worship Beings not of the same species as youself...you worship Aliens






You're really reaching there funches. Again, they were not "born" they were not "created". They created this planet, it belongs to them, it is not "foreign" to them. Just that alone automatically cancels out "alien", they created this planet therefore it is not foreign to them. Therefore they could not possibly be an alien to it. Because again, "Alien" is a being at a foreign place.

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Wed 12/19/12 04:18 PM


And nobody said a dern thing about Mary, where in the world did that come from? Nobody is worshiping her here, nor did anyone say anybody should.


oh my Goddddddddddddddd ...oops ...I meant WTF do you think this thread is about....try and stay focus sir

REMINDER:
WTF...is short for..What The Flock




You stay focused Funches. This "discussion" has long left "Marry" quite a while ago. Before this last recent mention of Marry, I don't even remember how many posts or maybe even pages she had not been mentioned in. But will gladly look it up just to show how you are always just stuck on trying to find some form of fault in the Christian faith and that's all you focus on. So therefore all you post is things trying to make Christianity look in some form of error EVEN IF it is way off topic and or leads the discussions off topic.

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Wed 12/19/12 04:21 PM
Edited by CowboyGH on Wed 12/19/12 04:23 PM



They are not aliens because this is not a foreign planet. THEY created this planet Funches. It's not a foreign planet they stumbled across.


if you are not naturalized in a country you/they are an Alien...if you are not born on the same planet you/they are an Alien...if you are not even of the same species you/they are an Alien

therefore...if you worship Beings not of the same species as youself...you worship Aliens






You're really reaching there funches. Again, they were not "born" they were not "created". They created this planet, it belongs to them, it is not "foreign" to them. Just that alone automatically cancels out "alien", they created this planet therefore it is not foreign to them. Therefore they could not possibly be an alien to it. Because again, "Alien" is a being at a foreign place.



therefore...if you worship Beings not of the same species as youself...you worship Aliens


Genesis 1:26
26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

A cow does not reflect the image of a "horse"
A cat does not reflect the image of a "dog"
A lion does not reflect the image of a "bird"
ect

This flesh is purely temporary Funches. We are spiritual beings. We will be given a new flesh/body in Christ, a spiritual body/flesh after we pass away on this Earth.