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Topic: Can mary save?
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Mon 12/17/12 02:04 PM


Jesus is "him". The one that bared the cross for us all.


wow...never thought I could get a follower of Jesus to point to "him" as being Satan's Father






Jesus being the father, the one whom gave life to Satan has absolutely no connection to the actions Satan does, has done, or anything directly to do with Satan.

The creations choice of actions does not reflect the creator. It's impossible, the creator has absolutely no control over the actions of the created. God didn't program us to act/behave a certain way. Free will, Funches, free will.

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Mon 12/17/12 02:08 PM


Does not say specifically Satan, but it sums it up with "by him all things were created, things in Heaven and in Earth."

Satan was once in Heaven at the time of creation. So therefore he would be included in that all things in Heaven.


Cowboy...who is the Father of Satan? ...

so funny how you try to dodge the question

what's the next trick...you're going to play like you already answered it







Dodge the question? What are you talking about Funches? If you're going to "discuss" in these forums, please read the responses. You say I dodged the question, then in your very next post, right after this you respond on God being the creator of all including Satan.

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Mon 12/17/12 03:27 PM

Dodge the question? What are you talking about Funches? If you're going to "discuss" in these forums, please read the responses. You say I dodged the question, then in your very next post, right after this you respond on God being the creator of all including Satan.


you were ashame to post a yes or no answer to the question is Jesus father of Satan..you instead posted passages

but anyway...as you stated God is only a title which means that some sort of "Beings" created Satan

so how many "Beings" were there before creation?


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Mon 12/17/12 03:39 PM

Jesus being the father, the one whom gave life to Satan has absolutely no connection to the actions Satan does, has done, or anything directly to do with Satan.

The creations choice of actions does not reflect the creator. It's impossible, the creator has absolutely no control over the actions of the created. God didn't program us to act/behave a certain way. Free will, Funches, free will.


wow Cowboy..I sure hope you don't have children

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Mon 12/17/12 04:18 PM


Jesus being the father, the one whom gave life to Satan has absolutely no connection to the actions Satan does, has done, or anything directly to do with Satan.

The creations choice of actions does not reflect the creator. It's impossible, the creator has absolutely no control over the actions of the created. God didn't program us to act/behave a certain way. Free will, Funches, free will.


wow Cowboy..I sure hope you don't have children


??? So you're gonna tell me people's children automatically obey their parents and perfectly behaved in every way?

That EVERYBODY'S children grow up to be just like them?

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Mon 12/17/12 04:20 PM


Dodge the question? What are you talking about Funches? If you're going to "discuss" in these forums, please read the responses. You say I dodged the question, then in your very next post, right after this you respond on God being the creator of all including Satan.


you were ashame to post a yes or no answer to the question is Jesus father of Satan..you instead posted passages

but anyway...as you stated God is only a title which means that some sort of "Beings" created Satan

so how many "Beings" were there before creation?




I don't know exactly, we are not given that knowledge. I know of two beings. The Word and God the Father.

Heaven was created, Angels were created, Earth was created, everything on and below the Earth was created. But for what was there before creation I know of only two. Again, God the Father and the Word.

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Tue 12/18/12 05:56 AM



Jesus being the father, the one whom gave life to Satan has absolutely no connection to the actions Satan does, has done, or anything directly to do with Satan.

The creations choice of actions does not reflect the creator. It's impossible, the creator has absolutely no control over the actions of the created. God didn't program us to act/behave a certain way. Free will, Funches, free will.


wow Cowboy..I sure hope you don't have children


??? So you're gonna tell me people's children automatically obey their parents and perfectly behaved in every way?


you stated that Jesus had no connections or anything directly to do with Satan ...this makes Jesus a Dead Beat Dad...


That EVERYBODY'S children grow up to be just like them?


well Jesus did drown and kill a mass amount of people...so perhaps it's not best that all children be just like their parents

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Tue 12/18/12 06:04 AM



Dodge the question? What are you talking about Funches? If you're going to "discuss" in these forums, please read the responses. You say I dodged the question, then in your very next post, right after this you respond on God being the creator of all including Satan.


you were ashame to post a yes or no answer to the question is Jesus father of Satan..you instead posted passages

but anyway...as you stated God is only a title which means that some sort of "Beings" created Satan

so how many "Beings" were there before creation?




I don't know exactly, we are not given that knowledge. I know of two beings. The Word and God the Father.


what you mean you only know of two beings...you've been preaching for years that there was three Beings ..


Heaven was created, Angels were created, Earth was created, everything on and below the Earth was created. But for what was there before creation I know of only two. Again, God the Father and the Word.


you are given that knowledge....aren't there at least three Alien Beings that exist and that you worship? ..why are you trying to play like there is only two "Alien Beings"

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Tue 12/18/12 06:07 AM




Jesus being the father, the one whom gave life to Satan has absolutely no connection to the actions Satan does, has done, or anything directly to do with Satan.

The creations choice of actions does not reflect the creator. It's impossible, the creator has absolutely no control over the actions of the created. God didn't program us to act/behave a certain way. Free will, Funches, free will.


wow Cowboy..I sure hope you don't have children


??? So you're gonna tell me people's children automatically obey their parents and perfectly behaved in every way?


you stated that Jesus had no connections or anything directly to do with Satan ...this makes Jesus a Dead Beat Dad...


That EVERYBODY'S children grow up to be just like them?


well Jesus did drown and kill a mass amount of people...so perhaps it's not best that all children be just like their parents



you stated that Jesus had no connections or anything directly to do with Satan ...this makes Jesus a Dead Beat Dad...


How so? Even the "greatest" parent in the world doesn't have direct control over what their children do.


well Jesus did drown and kill a mass amount of people...so perhaps it's not best that all children be just like their parents


Jesus killed no one. The dead in Christ rose before, and the one's after that will rise again. Jesus gives eternal life, he kills not one person. At the very least, the person kills themselves through their actions and disobedience.

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Tue 12/18/12 06:10 AM




Dodge the question? What are you talking about Funches? If you're going to "discuss" in these forums, please read the responses. You say I dodged the question, then in your very next post, right after this you respond on God being the creator of all including Satan.


you were ashame to post a yes or no answer to the question is Jesus father of Satan..you instead posted passages

but anyway...as you stated God is only a title which means that some sort of "Beings" created Satan

so how many "Beings" were there before creation?




I don't know exactly, we are not given that knowledge. I know of two beings. The Word and God the Father.


what you mean you only know of two beings...you've been preaching for years that there was three Beings ..


Heaven was created, Angels were created, Earth was created, everything on and below the Earth was created. But for what was there before creation I know of only two. Again, God the Father and the Word.


you are given that knowledge....aren't there at least three Alien Beings that exist and that you worship? ..why are you trying to play like there is only two "Alien Beings"



you are given that knowledge....aren't there at least three Alien Beings that exist and that you worship? ..why are you trying to play like there is only two "Alien Beings"


Alien beasts? I know not of one nor do I worship any.

Alien - Belonging to a foreign country or nation

This world was created by God, this is not a "foreign" planet to God. This is his planet.

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Tue 12/18/12 06:13 AM




Dodge the question? What are you talking about Funches? If you're going to "discuss" in these forums, please read the responses. You say I dodged the question, then in your very next post, right after this you respond on God being the creator of all including Satan.


you were ashame to post a yes or no answer to the question is Jesus father of Satan..you instead posted passages

but anyway...as you stated God is only a title which means that some sort of "Beings" created Satan

so how many "Beings" were there before creation?




I don't know exactly, we are not given that knowledge. I know of two beings. The Word and God the Father.


what you mean you only know of two beings...you've been preaching for years that there was three Beings ..


Heaven was created, Angels were created, Earth was created, everything on and below the Earth was created. But for what was there before creation I know of only two. Again, God the Father and the Word.


you are given that knowledge....aren't there at least three Alien Beings that exist and that you worship? ..why are you trying to play like there is only two "Alien Beings"



what you mean you only know of two beings...you've been preaching for years that there was three Beings ..


The "Holy Spirit" is not a being in it's own. The Holy Spirit is God's Holy Spirit. It's not a third party.

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Tue 12/18/12 09:11 AM

How so? Even the "greatest" parent in the world doesn't have direct control over what their children do.


you claim that Jesus had no connection or had anything to do with his child...will you treat your child the same?


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Tue 12/18/12 09:13 AM

Alien beasts? I know not of one nor do I worship any.

Alien - Belonging to a foreign country or nation

This world was created by God, this is not a "foreign" planet to God. This is his planet.


was those Three Beings born on the same planet you were born on...are those three beings also Flesh and Blood ....that's why they are Aliens

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Tue 12/18/12 09:25 AM
Edited by funches on Tue 12/18/12 09:37 AM

The "Holy Spirit" is not a being in it's own. The Holy Spirit is God's Holy Spirit. It's not a third party.


so your belief only worship two Alien Beings

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Tue 12/18/12 09:38 AM


How so? Even the "greatest" parent in the world doesn't have direct control over what their children do.


you claim that Jesus had no connection or had anything to do with his child...will you treat your child the same?




I said, to their actions. Not specifically to them, but nice try Funches. A for effort.

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Tue 12/18/12 09:40 AM


Alien beasts? I know not of one nor do I worship any.

Alien - Belonging to a foreign country or nation

This world was created by God, this is not a "foreign" planet to God. This is his planet.


was those Three Beings born on the same planet you were born on...are those three beings also Flesh and Blood ....that's why they are Aliens


Again, what are you talking about?

No they were not born from the same planet, they were not born lol. God was not created. He has always been and will always be. He has no beginning and end. He is the alpha and omega, the beginning and the end. There is no before God and there will be no after God.

And no they are not aliens to this planet, for again they created this planet.

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Tue 12/18/12 09:43 AM


The "Holy Spirit" is not a being in it's own. The Holy Spirit is God's Holy Spirit. It's not a third party.


so your belief only worship two Alien Beings


No, I worship one God.

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Tue 12/18/12 09:45 AM



How so? Even the "greatest" parent in the world doesn't have direct control over what their children do.


you claim that Jesus had no connection or had anything to do with his child...will you treat your child the same?


I said, to their actions. Not specifically to them, but nice try Funches. A for effort.


that's what I meant...if you believe that a parent have no direct control over their children actions...then you shouldn't have any

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Tue 12/18/12 09:54 AM



Alien beasts? I know not of one nor do I worship any.

Alien - Belonging to a foreign country or nation

This world was created by God, this is not a "foreign" planet to God. This is his planet.


was those Three Beings born on the same planet you were born on...are those three beings also Flesh and Blood ....that's why they are Aliens


Again, what are you talking about?

No they were not born from the same planet, they were not born lol. God was not created. He has always been and will always be. He has no beginning and end. He is the alpha and omega, the beginning and the end. There is no before God and there will be no after God.

And no they are not aliens to this planet, for again they created this planet.


if they are not born on the same planet as you...that constitute an alien

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Tue 12/18/12 09:57 AM



The "Holy Spirit" is not a being in it's own. The Holy Spirit is God's Holy Spirit. It's not a third party.


so your belief only worship two Alien Beings


No, I worship one God.


you stated that God is a title...do you worship a title or do you worship the two beings?


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