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Topic: Seven dead in 'terror'gun attack on US Sikh temple
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Fri 08/10/12 06:52 PM



I believe it 'erupted' when one islamic woman addressed the passage of the op stating crimes had risen due to people confusing muslims with those of other religions and her post stating that her religion is peaceful then was met with numerous posts from non muslims about how awful and murderous it actually is,,,





Again, if the Quran preaches hate, intolerance, murder, and lies, guess what, IT IS EVIL! But again this is offtopic ! I oppose tolerance for Intolerant faiths! When Islam casts the Quran and Muhammad aside I will change my stance with them.

If the conduct of Muslims in the Middle East doesn't speak for itself what does? ISLAM BREEDS FEAR! THEY SCARE PEOPLE FOR GOOD REASON! how long has it been since the crusades? 1200 + years? the Christian Holy war has long been over. but Islam EXISTS FOR THE PURPOSE OF MAKING WAR AND DOMINATING ALL IN THE NAME OF A DEAD MAN!!!!

I know who you are talking about and she tossed gasoline on a fire! it was mine and one other person's observation of the difference between Sikhs and how people mistake them for Islamics.

Sorry but don't be part of a faith and not expect others to challenge it when it clearly threatens those of us who will not tow its line. Women who preach devotion to a faith that makes them property are victims of Stockholm Syndrome. Either that or THEY LIKE BEING OWNED! HasidicEnforcer is lucky her husband doesn't beat her because he is frustrated with work! How about a huge WHAT IF? What if her husband does indeed come home from work in a real bad mood and decides to beat her silly? What then of her love of Islam? Does she cry and put up with it? "Forgive her husband" for using her like a punching bag? Or does she divorce him? Does she even really have any idea what she is involved with for real? I could think of a number of women I would LOVE her to discus her faith with. Gloria Allred is one of them for as much as I don't like the Femarxist! It isn't the people living under Islam who my problem is with. It IS ISLAM I and others have a problem with! Having read a Quran I can safely say this. I will oppose the presence of Islam at every turn and challenge them to their faces at every opportunity! if they take the first act of aggression i will defend myself and take it from there. Holy War works both ways and Mine is against ignorance both intellectually and religious!

IGNORANCE IS THE NUMBER ONE CAUSE OF DEATH AMONG US AND GREED IS A CLOSE SECOND!

It is really true the path to hell is paved with good intentions!

And the sick thing is not enough people know the difference between a Muslim vs. a Sikh.



no problems

I was only answering how it turned into a racial history thread,,,when one attacks one groups actions,, its fair to be prepared for them to be countered by another groups similarly ignorant and greey actions,,,


as I also stated


one of the things that makes any historical discussion very difficult to have, as it usually deteriorates into personal opinions and tit for tat comparisons,,,,

What is historical about some nut killing people in a church????

Muslims are killing folks in churches as we speak?

Guess Muslims killing folks every day is not historic.

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Fri 08/10/12 06:55 PM




I believe it 'erupted' when one islamic woman addressed the passage of the op stating crimes had risen due to people confusing muslims with those of other religions and her post stating that her religion is peaceful then was met with numerous posts from non muslims about how awful and murderous it actually is,,,





Again, if the Quran preaches hate, intolerance, murder, and lies, guess what, IT IS EVIL! But again this is offtopic ! I oppose tolerance for Intolerant faiths! When Islam casts the Quran and Muhammad aside I will change my stance with them.

If the conduct of Muslims in the Middle East doesn't speak for itself what does? ISLAM BREEDS FEAR! THEY SCARE PEOPLE FOR GOOD REASON! how long has it been since the crusades? 1200 + years? the Christian Holy war has long been over. but Islam EXISTS FOR THE PURPOSE OF MAKING WAR AND DOMINATING ALL IN THE NAME OF A DEAD MAN!!!!

I know who you are talking about and she tossed gasoline on a fire! it was mine and one other person's observation of the difference between Sikhs and how people mistake them for Islamics.

Sorry but don't be part of a faith and not expect others to challenge it when it clearly threatens those of us who will not tow its line. Women who preach devotion to a faith that makes them property are victims of Stockholm Syndrome. Either that or THEY LIKE BEING OWNED! HasidicEnforcer is lucky her husband doesn't beat her because he is frustrated with work! How about a huge WHAT IF? What if her husband does indeed come home from work in a real bad mood and decides to beat her silly? What then of her love of Islam? Does she cry and put up with it? "Forgive her husband" for using her like a punching bag? Or does she divorce him? Does she even really have any idea what she is involved with for real? I could think of a number of women I would LOVE her to discus her faith with. Gloria Allred is one of them for as much as I don't like the Femarxist! It isn't the people living under Islam who my problem is with. It IS ISLAM I and others have a problem with! Having read a Quran I can safely say this. I will oppose the presence of Islam at every turn and challenge them to their faces at every opportunity! if they take the first act of aggression i will defend myself and take it from there. Holy War works both ways and Mine is against ignorance both intellectually and religious!

IGNORANCE IS THE NUMBER ONE CAUSE OF DEATH AMONG US AND GREED IS A CLOSE SECOND!

It is really true the path to hell is paved with good intentions!

And the sick thing is not enough people know the difference between a Muslim vs. a Sikh.



no problems

I was only answering how it turned into a racial history thread,,,when one attacks one groups actions,, its fair to be prepared for them to be countered by another groups similarly ignorant and greey actions,,,


as I also stated


one of the things that makes any historical discussion very difficult to have, as it usually deteriorates into personal opinions and tit for tat comparisons,,,,

What is historical about some nut killing people in a church????

Muslims are killing folks in churches as we speak?

Guess Muslims killing folks every day is not historic.



it became HISTORICAL, when people began to bring up their opinion of what muslims have done,,( historically,,,,,)

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Sat 08/11/12 09:32 AM
So msharmony I never did see your answer to my earlier question asking for clarification on your statements on the first page of this thread.

Basically you said no one has a logical legal reason to have that kind of capability. I asked for you to define the capability that is logically legal as you put it, but you never did.

How can you with any certainty talk about a subject such as this, making statements about what should be legal or illegal and not define what you mean?

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Sat 08/11/12 09:47 AM

So msharmony I never did see your answer to my earlier question asking for clarification on your statements on the first page of this thread.

Basically you said no one has a logical legal reason to have that kind of capability. I asked for you to define the capability that is logically legal as you put it, but you never did.

How can you with any certainty talk about a subject such as this, making statements about what should be legal or illegal and not define what you mean?



I cant clarify, you will keep asking me to 'name' guns when I dont know guns names , I just know the damage they can do...


the capability that I think is 'logically' legal is whatever is necessary to have a REASONABLE chance at taking out or slowing down an attacker,,,,with minimal chance at harming others in the cross fire

it should require some EFFORT on the shooters part, whether it be after each shot or after each six shots but not after dozens of shots fired


thats just my opinion, and people are free to believe the more bullets in the less time gives them a better chance, or even believe a grenade launcher gives them a better chance

I really can not be precise about what 'rasonable' is,,,,

reasonable is a term however, just like in the courts, thats going to be subjective and have no ABSOLUTE explanation which I can describe,,,

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Sat 08/11/12 09:58 AM


So msharmony I never did see your answer to my earlier question asking for clarification on your statements on the first page of this thread.

Basically you said no one has a logical legal reason to have that kind of capability. I asked for you to define the capability that is logically legal as you put it, but you never did.

How can you with any certainty talk about a subject such as this, making statements about what should be legal or illegal and not define what you mean?



I cant clarify, you will keep asking me to 'name' guns when I dont know guns names , I just know the damage they can do...


the capability that I think is 'logically' legal is whatever is necessary to have a REASONABLE chance at taking out or slowing down an attacker,,,,with minimal chance at harming others in the cross fire

it should require some EFFORT on the shooters part, whether it be after each shot or after each six shots but not after dozens of shots fired


thats just my opinion, and people are free to believe the more bullets in the less time gives them a better chance, or even believe a grenade launcher gives them a better chance

I really can not be precise about what 'rasonable' is,,,,

reasonable is a term however, just like in the courts, thats going to be subjective and have no ABSOLUTE explanation which I can describe,,,
Whole lot of words to essentially say you have no clue.

Anyone so clueless should hesitate to state there opinion.

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Sat 08/11/12 10:00 AM



So msharmony I never did see your answer to my earlier question asking for clarification on your statements on the first page of this thread.

Basically you said no one has a logical legal reason to have that kind of capability. I asked for you to define the capability that is logically legal as you put it, but you never did.

How can you with any certainty talk about a subject such as this, making statements about what should be legal or illegal and not define what you mean?



I cant clarify, you will keep asking me to 'name' guns when I dont know guns names , I just know the damage they can do...


the capability that I think is 'logically' legal is whatever is necessary to have a REASONABLE chance at taking out or slowing down an attacker,,,,with minimal chance at harming others in the cross fire

it should require some EFFORT on the shooters part, whether it be after each shot or after each six shots but not after dozens of shots fired


thats just my opinion, and people are free to believe the more bullets in the less time gives them a better chance, or even believe a grenade launcher gives them a better chance

I really can not be precise about what 'rasonable' is,,,,

reasonable is a term however, just like in the courts, thats going to be subjective and have no ABSOLUTE explanation which I can describe,,,
Whole lot of words to essentially say you have no clue.

Anyone so clueless should hesitate to state there opinion.





BS

I state my opinion about the harm done by BULLETS ,and how reasonable it is for someone to be able to fire dozens within a few seconds with a tiny amount of pressure from their finger

that doesnt mean im 'clueless' just because I dont have the correct GUN TERMINOLOGY as a gun enthusiast does

I dont study guns, but I dont have to to see the damage BULLETS cause
anymore than I HAve to be able to tell you the horsepower of a car or the type of engine to know the harm it can cause if it hits someone,,,

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