And please provide the passage or the location you received this information, that the Father himself specifically placed him there. Not something one needs to adlib, but where it specifically says the Father placed Jesus in Hell himself.

If you can't, what you say is nothing more then vein words, why waste the time and energy?

and that Cowboy conclude my teachings as to why God's law is not above Man's Law

you have to Render unto the laws of Mingle2

Only if I wish to continue to speak here......... but even that is obeying God's law. He has told us to obey man's law. So again, what's your point?

Jesus was God forsaken...where else could he go but Hell ..do you actually believe he was silly enough to place himself in Hell?

you can either pick to follow the command of Jesus and do greatness or choose the command to follow man's law and post nonsense in this forum

choices choices

Jesus was not forsaken. He felt like he was, he felt separated from the father. Sin separates us from God, so when he was placed on that cross and took all our sins on himself, he felt separated from God.

Again, I told you don't come here with a speculation or a hunch. Show where it specifically says the Father through Jesus in Hell.

Jesus went to hell to take your death penalty in hell. To suffer your consequence for your sin(s). He did that, so you would not have to.

What are you talking about? The two have nothing to do with one another. Jesus did not say go into the mingle2 forums and preach. He said to spread the word. Which is what I do through witnessing and confessing my beliefs and sharing them with others.... why do you stay on this? You're like a broken record.

sorry Cowboy..but if Jesus was on the cross crying about being forsaken and was in Hell for three days...that's proof that God forsaken him and placed him there for at least three days



show a passage where Jesus place himself in Hell



that last quote sure sound like you are preaching the gospel

Matthew 12:40
40 For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.

This is Jesus speaking before the crucifixion. Notice he says he will "spent" 3 days in the heart of the Earth. He doesn't say he will be sent there 3 days or trapped there 3 days. He will SPEND 3 days there. You'll have to ask hm yourself why he spent specifically 3 days there.



Nope, just sharing the joy of the greatest gift.

Jonas was stuck in the whale just like Jesus was stuck in Hell

both was forsaken by The Father for three days until their sentences was reversed

Jesus was as an Unruly Child which God discipline ...

isn't the greatest gift to be an everlasting ghost...

perhaps that explains why Creflo was choking his daughter ..he was trying to share the gift

No, the greatest gift is the love of Jesus our God.

Please give some indications of Jesus being "trapped" in hell for 3 days. He knew how long he was going to be there, before he went there. So again, give some evidence of Jesus being forced to be in hell for 3 days.

you mean the same guy that said that you must hate your Father, Mother, children, yourself and choke your daughter in order to be one of his disciples?...

He never said to choke your daughter, he's never instructed us to bring any harm to anyone, physical or emotional. Heck, he's told us to turn the other cheek.

Again, the word "hate" means extreme dislike or antipathy. And placing it in context, Jesus said this needs to be done to be his "disciple".

Luke 14:26
26 If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.

Because again, they would be placing someone above Jesus. And Jesus wants to be first if you're going to be his disciple.

Jesus was only saying to put him first before anyone else. I can't help it you always think of hate Funches.

Cowboy...you gave the evidence with that passage about Jonas being stuck in the belly of the whale for three days....he was in the whale because he disobeyed God and God placed him in the belly, he was trapped there for three days until God released him

this was why Jesus linked himself to the story of Jonas..because the same would happen to him, he would be forsaken by God and be placed in hell for three days until God released him

Was he now? And did he now?

Jonah 1
17 Now the Lord had prepared a great fish to swallow up Jonah. And Jonah was in the belly of the fish three days and three nights.

And you do realize this was done to save Jonah right? Jonah was on a ship that hit a storm

4 But the Lord sent out a great wind into the sea, and there was a mighty tempest in the sea, so that the ship was like to be broken.

So after he had sent the storm, the men begged for compassion and forgiveness

14 Wherefore they cried unto the Lord, and said, We beseech thee, O Lord, we beseech thee, let us not perish for this man's life, and lay not upon us innocent blood: for thou, O Lord, hast done as it pleased thee.

And to save Jonah's life, Jesus placed him in the belly of a whale.

17 Now the Lord had prepared a great fish to swallow up Jonah. And Jonah was in the belly of the fish three days and three nights.
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And besides all this, it was the "lord" that did it, Jesus Christ. Not the father. So no, Jonah being in the belly of the whale and Jesus being in the heart of the Earth for 3 days has no relation in the sense of what you're saying. The Father did not send Jonah into the wale, nor did he cast Jesus to hell.

so if you strike a child on one cheek you are suppose to turn their other cheek?

And what caused the lord to make the storm, was this.


1 Now the word of the Lord came unto Jonah the son of Amittai, saying,

2 Arise, go to Nineveh, that great city, and cry against it; for their wickedness is come up before me.

3 But Jonah rose up to flee unto Tarshish from the presence of the Lord, and went down to Joppa; and he found a ship going to Tarshish: so he paid the fare thereof, and went down into it, to go with them unto Tarshish from the presence of the Lord.

Jonah was being disobedient to the Lord.

No, the phrase "turn the other cheek" refers to no violence, no hitting. If someone hits you, you turn them the other cheek instead of retaliating. It's a phrase speaking of passiveness, no violence. Why do you think of hatred and beating on people so much?