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Ah, but you're twisting words around to your best advantage. I am preaching, just as you are preaching. Preach - Publicly proclaim or teach (a religious message or belief) And this is a public forum for the members of Mingle2. I just was saying I was not preaching in the sense you were presenting it. I was not giving a sermon or anything of that such. I was merely discussing and spreading the good news. I only went so far as to clarify that, because if I am not mistaken "preaching" in the sense of delivering a sermon instead of having a "discussion" is against the forum rules, in which is what I think the motives were behind you mentioning that. So I had to show that you are preaching just as I was. the Christian followers of Jesus are commanded by Jesus to preach the gospel and I'm neither .....also you did the same as Thomas and denied Jesus by denying that you were in the forum preaching only due to my teachings to help keep you out of the lake of fire did you finally admit that you were here in the forums preaching the gospel... You may not preach the gospel, but you preach your beliefs. That's all preaching means, to share, to teach. |
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Immanuel again means "God with us". Names have meanings Funches. but Immanuel does not mean Jesus I've already presented a passage that states that the Messiah's name will be called Immanuel I'm still waiting on you to present a passage that states that the Messiah's name will be called Jesus one would think that a prophecy would at the least get the name right But again, that is his name in meaning. I've showed you a passage that said "his name will be the everlasting father, prince of peace, ect" That his NAME shall be called that. That doesn't say HE will be called that. Does not say that will be his name. no Cowboy...Jesus name no matter how you try to translate it does not mean Immanuel ..... without a specific name, the Messiah prophecy could apply to any one even you ..... watch how I make you God using the same logic you are trying to use PROOF WHY "COWBOY" THINKS HE IS HOLY Cowboy means "boys that are Cows" in India Cows are Holy ....therefore Cowboy means "Holy Boy" since Cows are only female therefore a Cowboy birth is immaculate WHY COWBOY CAN'T BE THE MESSIAH because there is nothing that can link Cowboy to mean Immanuel WHY JESUS CAN'T BE THE MESSIAH this is why the Messiah Prophecy can not be fulfilled unless a Messiah named Immanuel shows up...and this is why Jesus is not the Messiah...Mary blew it and gave him the wrong name...proof that she didn't read the bible this is why the Messiah Prophecy can not be fulfilled unless a Messiah named Immanuel shows up Does not say his name is Immanuel. Said his name shall be called .. 6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace Why would someone have so many names? These verses are not saying his name will be, it says his name will be "called". As in, he will be called great, he will be called the everlasting father. Immanuel specifically translates into "everlasting father". It is not a name Funches. Just his name will be called that, as in again his name will be called great, as in he will be known to be great, ect. |
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Again, nice try. Jesus did preach the gospel to Pilate. Maybe not specifically face to face, he was to frighten to do it face to face but Pilate received what Jesus was preaching, thus he why crucified. Pilate had no idea what Jesus was preaching about because then he would have to report it to Rome and Rome would have crucified him Please do enlighten us all the reason Jesus was crucified and provide the passages that support such a claim. The Father gave his only begotten Son as a burnt offering to the Man God Caesar which is why Jesus started crying to The Father about forsaking him |
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Again, nice try. Jesus did preach the gospel to Pilate. Maybe not specifically face to face, he was to frighten to do it face to face but Pilate received what Jesus was preaching, thus he why crucified. Pilate had no idea what Jesus was preaching about because then he would have to report it to Rome and Rome would have crucified him Please do enlighten us all the reason Jesus was crucified and provide the passages that support such a claim. The Father gave his only begotten Son as a burnt offering to the Man God Caesar which is why Jesus started crying to The Father about forsaking him Pilate had no idea what Jesus was preaching about because then he would have to report it to Rome and Rome would have crucified him Who do you think Crucified Jesus? The Father gave his only begotten Son as a burnt offering to the Man God Caesar which is why Jesus started crying to The Father about forsaking him Please do give the verse that says God gave his only begotten son as a "burnt offering". And then please show the verse(s) where Jesus was "burnt" for an offering. |
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You may not preach the gospel, but you preach your beliefs. That's all preaching means, to share, to teach. Cowboy Jesus did command you to preach the "gospel" as indicated in the passage below POSTED BY JESUS; Mark 16:15 And he said to them, Go you into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. it's amazing how even now how you are still trying to deny Jesus's Commands so let's get it on record..... Cowboy...are you here in the forum to preach the gospel? |
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Again, nice try. Jesus did preach the gospel to Pilate. Maybe not specifically face to face, he was to frighten to do it face to face but Pilate received what Jesus was preaching, thus he why crucified. Pilate had no idea what Jesus was preaching about because then he would have to report it to Rome and Rome would have crucified him Please do enlighten us all the reason Jesus was crucified and provide the passages that support such a claim. The Father gave his only begotten Son as a burnt offering to the Man God Caesar which is why Jesus started crying to The Father about forsaking him Pilate had no idea what Jesus was preaching about because then he would have to report it to Rome and Rome would have crucified him Who do you think Crucified Jesus? The Father gave his only begotten Son as a burnt offering to the Man God Caesar which is why Jesus started crying to The Father about forsaking him Please do give the verse that says God gave his only begotten son as a "burnt offering". And then please show the verse(s) where Jesus was "burnt" for an offering. giving one's son as a sacrifice is a "burnt offering" ... |
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You may not preach the gospel, but you preach your beliefs. That's all preaching means, to share, to teach. Cowboy Jesus did command you to preach the "gospel" as indicated in the passage below POSTED BY JESUS; Mark 16:15 And he said to them, Go you into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. it's amazing how even now how you are still trying to deny Jesus's Commands so let's get it on record..... Cowboy...are you here in the forum to preach the gospel? I answered that yesterday I believe it was. Yes I'm here preaching the gospel, just as you're here preaching your beliefs, just as everyone is preaching their own beliefs in this forum. Preach - Publicly proclaim or teach (a religious message or belief). |
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Again, nice try. Jesus did preach the gospel to Pilate. Maybe not specifically face to face, he was to frighten to do it face to face but Pilate received what Jesus was preaching, thus he why crucified. Pilate had no idea what Jesus was preaching about because then he would have to report it to Rome and Rome would have crucified him Please do enlighten us all the reason Jesus was crucified and provide the passages that support such a claim. The Father gave his only begotten Son as a burnt offering to the Man God Caesar which is why Jesus started crying to The Father about forsaking him Pilate had no idea what Jesus was preaching about because then he would have to report it to Rome and Rome would have crucified him Who do you think Crucified Jesus? The Father gave his only begotten Son as a burnt offering to the Man God Caesar which is why Jesus started crying to The Father about forsaking him Please do give the verse that says God gave his only begotten son as a "burnt offering". And then please show the verse(s) where Jesus was "burnt" for an offering. giving one's son as a sacrifice is a "burnt offering" ... Ok, I'll be more specific. Give the verse that says he was specifically given as a sacrifice. John 3:16 16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. No mention of a burnt offering or a sacrifice. So please great Funches, teach us all through your wisdom. |
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You may not preach the gospel, but you preach your beliefs. That's all preaching means, to share, to teach. Cowboy Jesus did command you to preach the "gospel" as indicated in the passage below POSTED BY JESUS; Mark 16:15 And he said to them, Go you into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. it's amazing how even now how you are still trying to deny Jesus's Commands so let's get it on record..... Cowboy...are you here in the forum to preach the gospel? I answered that yesterday I believe it was. Yes I'm here preaching the gospel, just as you're here preaching your beliefs, just as everyone is preaching their own beliefs in this forum. Preach - Publicly proclaim or teach (a religious message or belief). non-believer do not have any religious messages or beliefs ...that's why they are called non-believers..... but you have a religious message that Jesus commanded you to spread and now you are trying to associate Jesus's message to that of non-believers ...it's like you are ashame ... |
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You may not preach the gospel, but you preach your beliefs. That's all preaching means, to share, to teach. Cowboy Jesus did command you to preach the "gospel" as indicated in the passage below POSTED BY JESUS; Mark 16:15 And he said to them, Go you into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. it's amazing how even now how you are still trying to deny Jesus's Commands so let's get it on record..... Cowboy...are you here in the forum to preach the gospel? I answered that yesterday I believe it was. Yes I'm here preaching the gospel, just as you're here preaching your beliefs, just as everyone is preaching their own beliefs in this forum. Preach - Publicly proclaim or teach (a religious message or belief). non-believer do not have any religious messages or beliefs ...that's why they are called non-believers..... but you have a religious message that Jesus commanded you to spread and now you are trying to associate Jesus's message to that of non-believers ...it's like you are ashame ... Ah, but even a non-believer has a belief. They believe such and such is false, is just fiction. One can not possible not have a belief. They can for maybe some time, while they decide. But eventually one has a belief. They either believe such and such is true or they believe such and such is false. Either way it is a belief. And when one expresses and or shares that conclusion with another(s) that is called preaching. And I associated nothing, what are you talking about? |
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Again, nice try. Jesus did preach the gospel to Pilate. Maybe not specifically face to face, he was to frighten to do it face to face but Pilate received what Jesus was preaching, thus he why crucified. Pilate had no idea what Jesus was preaching about because then he would have to report it to Rome and Rome would have crucified him Please do enlighten us all the reason Jesus was crucified and provide the passages that support such a claim. The Father gave his only begotten Son as a burnt offering to the Man God Caesar which is why Jesus started crying to The Father about forsaking him Pilate had no idea what Jesus was preaching about because then he would have to report it to Rome and Rome would have crucified him Who do you think Crucified Jesus? The Father gave his only begotten Son as a burnt offering to the Man God Caesar which is why Jesus started crying to The Father about forsaking him Please do give the verse that says God gave his only begotten son as a "burnt offering". And then please show the verse(s) where Jesus was "burnt" for an offering. giving one's son as a sacrifice is a "burnt offering" ... Ok, I'll be more specific. Give the verse that says he was specifically given as a sacrifice. John 3:16 16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. No mention of a burnt offering or a sacrifice. So please great Funches, teach us all through your wisdom. sure no problem what is meant by "gave his only begotten son"? ....did someone need Jesus as a golf partner? ...or did The Father give Jesus as a sacrifice ...and a sacrifice is a "burnt offering" |
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Again, nice try. Jesus did preach the gospel to Pilate. Maybe not specifically face to face, he was to frighten to do it face to face but Pilate received what Jesus was preaching, thus he why crucified. Pilate had no idea what Jesus was preaching about because then he would have to report it to Rome and Rome would have crucified him Please do enlighten us all the reason Jesus was crucified and provide the passages that support such a claim. The Father gave his only begotten Son as a burnt offering to the Man God Caesar which is why Jesus started crying to The Father about forsaking him Pilate had no idea what Jesus was preaching about because then he would have to report it to Rome and Rome would have crucified him Who do you think Crucified Jesus? The Father gave his only begotten Son as a burnt offering to the Man God Caesar which is why Jesus started crying to The Father about forsaking him Please do give the verse that says God gave his only begotten son as a "burnt offering". And then please show the verse(s) where Jesus was "burnt" for an offering. giving one's son as a sacrifice is a "burnt offering" ... Ok, I'll be more specific. Give the verse that says he was specifically given as a sacrifice. John 3:16 16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. No mention of a burnt offering or a sacrifice. So please great Funches, teach us all through your wisdom. sure no problem what is meant by "gave his only begotten son"? ....did someone need Jesus as a golf partner? ...or did The Father give Jesus as a sacrifice ...and a sacrifice is a "burnt offering" Now you're ad-libing. He gave his son as in he allowed it to happen. He didn't stop the roman's from crucifying Jesus. He sent his son to give us the gospel. He didn't send his son to be a burnt offering or a sacrifice. How would it have been a sacrifice or a burnt offering from the Roman's to the Father? Jesus never belonged to the Roman, he was not something they could give up for the Father. That is why it's called a sacrifice or a burnt "offering". They were giving up something of theirs, to God in showing of appreciation and trust God would take care of them regardless of the loss of food or whatever it was they sacrificed. If you can not find a specific thing said of Jesus being a burnt offering, why make such false accusations? |
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You may not preach the gospel, but you preach your beliefs. That's all preaching means, to share, to teach. Cowboy Jesus did command you to preach the "gospel" as indicated in the passage below POSTED BY JESUS; Mark 16:15 And he said to them, Go you into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. it's amazing how even now how you are still trying to deny Jesus's Commands so let's get it on record..... Cowboy...are you here in the forum to preach the gospel? I answered that yesterday I believe it was. Yes I'm here preaching the gospel, just as you're here preaching your beliefs, just as everyone is preaching their own beliefs in this forum. Preach - Publicly proclaim or teach (a religious message or belief). non-believer do not have any religious messages or beliefs ...that's why they are called non-believers..... but you have a religious message that Jesus commanded you to spread and now you are trying to associate Jesus's message to that of non-believers ...it's like you are ashame ... Ah, but even a non-believer has a belief. They believe such and such is false, is just fiction. One can not possible not have a belief. They can for maybe some time, while they decide. But eventually one has a belief. They either believe such and such is true or they believe such and such is false. Either way it is a belief. And when one expresses and or shares that conclusion with another(s) that is called preaching. And I associated nothing, what are you talking about? you're trying to associate your savior's message to preach the gospel to that of non-believers .....how is doing that showing grace to your Savior? |
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Now you're ad-libing. He gave his son as in he allowed it to happen. He didn't stop the roman's from crucifying Jesus. He sent his son to give us the gospel. He didn't send his son to be a burnt offering or a sacrifice. How would it have been a sacrifice or a burnt offering from the Roman's to the Father? Jesus never belonged to the Roman, he was not something they could give up for the Father. That is why it's called a sacrifice or a burnt "offering". They were giving up something of theirs, to God in showing of appreciation and trust God would take care of them regardless of the loss of food or whatever it was they sacrificed. If you can not find a specific thing said of Jesus being a burnt offering, why make such false accusations? Cowboy ...so now are you are trying to argue that God didn't give his son as a sacrifice ...because if so, I'm going to bookmark this post so let's get it on record.... did God give his only begotton son as a sacrifice ? |
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You may not preach the gospel, but you preach your beliefs. That's all preaching means, to share, to teach. Cowboy Jesus did command you to preach the "gospel" as indicated in the passage below POSTED BY JESUS; Mark 16:15 And he said to them, Go you into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. it's amazing how even now how you are still trying to deny Jesus's Commands so let's get it on record..... Cowboy...are you here in the forum to preach the gospel? I answered that yesterday I believe it was. Yes I'm here preaching the gospel, just as you're here preaching your beliefs, just as everyone is preaching their own beliefs in this forum. Preach - Publicly proclaim or teach (a religious message or belief). non-believer do not have any religious messages or beliefs ...that's why they are called non-believers..... but you have a religious message that Jesus commanded you to spread and now you are trying to associate Jesus's message to that of non-believers ...it's like you are ashame ... Ah, but even a non-believer has a belief. They believe such and such is false, is just fiction. One can not possible not have a belief. They can for maybe some time, while they decide. But eventually one has a belief. They either believe such and such is true or they believe such and such is false. Either way it is a belief. And when one expresses and or shares that conclusion with another(s) that is called preaching. And I associated nothing, what are you talking about? you're trying to associate your savior's message to preach the gospel to that of non-believers .....how is doing that showing grace to your Savior? What in the world are you talking about? I associated nothing. Just because the word preach is used in both different statement does not mean they are associated. That's like saying if I was to say the word "ice" I would be talking about ice-cream, ice-sculptures, snow, and so on just because I said the word "ice". Again, my saviors message to preach the gospel has absolutely nothing to do with the preaching you do. |
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What in the world are you talking about? I associated nothing. Just because the word preach is used in both different statement does not mean they are associated. That's like saying if I was to say the word "ice" I would be talking about ice-cream, ice-sculptures, snow, and so on just because I said the word "ice". Again, my saviors message to preach the gospel has absolutely nothing to do with the preaching you do. Cowboy..you claimed Jesus commanding you to preach the gospel is the same as non-believers preaching..... this points to you being ashamed of having to preach the gospel....and since misery loves company..you are trying to claim that non-believers are preaching |
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Now you're ad-libing. He gave his son as in he allowed it to happen. He didn't stop the roman's from crucifying Jesus. He sent his son to give us the gospel. He didn't send his son to be a burnt offering or a sacrifice. How would it have been a sacrifice or a burnt offering from the Roman's to the Father? Jesus never belonged to the Roman, he was not something they could give up for the Father. That is why it's called a sacrifice or a burnt "offering". They were giving up something of theirs, to God in showing of appreciation and trust God would take care of them regardless of the loss of food or whatever it was they sacrificed. If you can not find a specific thing said of Jesus being a burnt offering, why make such false accusations? Cowboy ...so now are you are trying to argue that God didn't give his son as a sacrifice ...because if so, I'm going to bookmark this post so let's get it on record.... did God give his only begotton son as a sacrifice ? He came to justify our sins, yes. But no not as a "sacrifice". 1 John 4:10 10 Herein is love, not that we loved God, but that he loved us, and sent his Son to be the propitiation for our sins. -propitiation - Atonement -Atonement - Reparation for a wrong or injury, Reparation or expiation for sin He came to forgive out of love, not some "sacrifice". Yes Jesus did sacrifice his own life in the doing so, but not in the sense of a sacrificial animal. And with having done that, Jesus is known as the sacrificial lamb of God. Because he sacrificed his entire life to living for God, not because he was sacrificed as a burnt offering. |
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Now you're ad-libing. He gave his son as in he allowed it to happen. He didn't stop the roman's from crucifying Jesus. He sent his son to give us the gospel. He didn't send his son to be a burnt offering or a sacrifice. How would it have been a sacrifice or a burnt offering from the Roman's to the Father? Jesus never belonged to the Roman, he was not something they could give up for the Father. That is why it's called a sacrifice or a burnt "offering". They were giving up something of theirs, to God in showing of appreciation and trust God would take care of them regardless of the loss of food or whatever it was they sacrificed. If you can not find a specific thing said of Jesus being a burnt offering, why make such false accusations? Cowboy ...so now are you are trying to argue that God didn't give his son as a sacrifice ...because if so, I'm going to bookmark this post so let's get it on record.... did God give his only begotton son as a sacrifice ? He came to justify our sins, yes. But no not as a "sacrifice". 1 John 4:10 10 Herein is love, not that we loved God, but that he loved us, and sent his Son to be the propitiation for our sins. -propitiation - Atonement -Atonement - Reparation for a wrong or injury, Reparation or expiation for sin He came to forgive out of love, not some "sacrifice". Yes Jesus did sacrifice his own life in the doing so, but not in the sense of a sacrificial animal. And with having done that, Jesus is known as the sacrificial lamb of God. Because he sacrificed his entire life to living for God, not because he was sacrificed as a burnt offering. Cowboy..you claimed Jesus commanding you to preach the gospel is the same as non-believers preaching..... No, never said that. Do you not listen Funches? Jesus told us to preach the GOSPEL. Yes the terms "preach" is the same in either preaching for God or preaching your own beliefs. But Jesus specifically instructed preaching of the gospel... so what's your point? |
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Now you're ad-libing. He gave his son as in he allowed it to happen. He didn't stop the roman's from crucifying Jesus. He sent his son to give us the gospel. He didn't send his son to be a burnt offering or a sacrifice. How would it have been a sacrifice or a burnt offering from the Roman's to the Father? Jesus never belonged to the Roman, he was not something they could give up for the Father. That is why it's called a sacrifice or a burnt "offering". They were giving up something of theirs, to God in showing of appreciation and trust God would take care of them regardless of the loss of food or whatever it was they sacrificed. If you can not find a specific thing said of Jesus being a burnt offering, why make such false accusations? Cowboy ...so now are you are trying to argue that God didn't give his son as a sacrifice ...because if so, I'm going to bookmark this post so let's get it on record.... did God give his only begotton son as a sacrifice ? He came to justify our sins, yes. But no not as a "sacrifice". 1 John 4:10 10 Herein is love, not that we loved God, but that he loved us, and sent his Son to be the propitiation for our sins. -propitiation - Atonement -Atonement - Reparation for a wrong or injury, Reparation or expiation for sin He came to forgive out of love, not some "sacrifice". Yes Jesus did sacrifice his own life in the doing so, but not in the sense of a sacrificial animal. And with having done that, Jesus is known as the sacrificial lamb of God. Because he sacrificed his entire life to living for God, not because he was sacrificed as a burnt offering. He could not possibly be a "sacrifice" to God in the sense you're trying to present it. A sacrifice to God is giving up whatever it is being sacrificed to God. Thus the person doing the sacrifice no longer has that which they sacrificed. Jesus was not anyone's to be sacrificed to God, no one possessed him nor was he an object of another. Nor would the "sacrifice" but of any revelance in this exact sense because he resurrected 3 days later. So how would he have been a sacrifice to God? He isn't still dead, he isn't still "sacrificed". |
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Now you're ad-libing. He gave his son as in he allowed it to happen. He didn't stop the roman's from crucifying Jesus. He sent his son to give us the gospel. He didn't send his son to be a burnt offering or a sacrifice. How would it have been a sacrifice or a burnt offering from the Roman's to the Father? Jesus never belonged to the Roman, he was not something they could give up for the Father. That is why it's called a sacrifice or a burnt "offering". They were giving up something of theirs, to God in showing of appreciation and trust God would take care of them regardless of the loss of food or whatever it was they sacrificed. If you can not find a specific thing said of Jesus being a burnt offering, why make such false accusations? Cowboy ...so now are you are trying to argue that God didn't give his son as a sacrifice ...because if so, I'm going to bookmark this post so let's get it on record.... did God give his only begotton son as a sacrifice ? He came to justify our sins, yes. But no not as a "sacrifice". 1 John 4:10 10 Herein is love, not that we loved God, but that he loved us, and sent his Son to be the propitiation for our sins. -propitiation - Atonement -Atonement - Reparation for a wrong or injury, Reparation or expiation for sin He came to forgive out of love, not some "sacrifice". Yes Jesus did sacrifice his own life in the doing so, but not in the sense of a sacrificial animal. And with having done that, Jesus is known as the sacrificial lamb of God. Because he sacrificed his entire life to living for God, not because he was sacrificed as a burnt offering. Cowboy...you're double talking and have about 30 contradictions in one post.... if Jesus as you yourself stated was "a sacrificial lamb of God"...that makes him a "burnt offering" in the end you always prove me right |
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