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ur inferences are ur own
there have been traditional punishments in every culture for those who broke the LAWS OF THE LAND stoning was once a tradition, as was hanging, as is now electrocution I think MAN gets it wrong when he 'plays God' by taking human life intentionally I dont think 'spanking' is anywhere near the same level and I dont think its at all 'wrong' |
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Not after the Lord specifically told them both it was a test. so you admit that before they knew it was a test..that God was asking Abraham to mentally abuse his child It's called a test Funches. We are God's creation, he can test us any way he wishes. There is no mentally abusing any child. Obviously he was willing to be sacrificed, there is no sign of him refusing or fighting to stop the sacrifice. well, he tested the hell out of lot, didn't he? |
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ur inferences are ur own there have been traditional punishments in every culture for those who broke the LAWS OF THE LAND stoning was once a tradition, as was hanging, as is now electrocution I think MAN gets it wrong when he 'plays God' by taking human life intentionally I dont think 'spanking' is anywhere near the same level and I dont think its at all 'wrong' so MsHarmony... yes or no...did God get it wrong in the Old Testament pertaining to handing out punishment to unruly children |
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ur inferences are ur own there have been traditional punishments in every culture for those who broke the LAWS OF THE LAND stoning was once a tradition, as was hanging, as is now electrocution I think MAN gets it wrong when he 'plays God' by taking human life intentionally I dont think 'spanking' is anywhere near the same level and I dont think its at all 'wrong' so MsHarmony... yes or no...did God get it wrong in the Old Testament pertaining to handing out punishment to unruly children if you are speaking of spare the rod spoil the child from my personal observation,, the bible got that perfectly,,, |
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Genesis 22:2 "And he said, Take now thy son, thine only son Isaac, whom thou lovest, and get thee into the land of Moriah; and offer him there for a burnt offering upon one of the mountains which I will tell thee of." in the case of Creflo God said unto Creflo..take now thine shoe, thy only shoe, thine oldest daughter and beat her upon one of her mountains which I will tell thee of Again, taking things out of context. It was a test, to test his faith. God didn't really want him to sacrifice his child. Genesis 22:1 Now it came to pass after these things that God tested Abraham, and said to him, “Abraham!” And he said, “Here I am.” He took the original statement out of context. Because if you read further on, God told him to stop, he was only testing his faith. God didn't truly want him to sacrifice his child. And there's no puppets, Abraham did the action on his own. He was instructed, yes. But that does not take free will away, for he could have at any time stopped doing the action. |
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Not after the Lord specifically told them both it was a test. so you admit that before they knew it was a test..that God was asking Abraham to mentally abuse his child It's called a test Funches. We are God's creation, he can test us any way he wishes. There is no mentally abusing any child. Obviously he was willing to be sacrificed, there is no sign of him refusing or fighting to stop the sacrifice. Cowboy....so if God commands you to offer your child up as a burnt offerring...you actually would? Absolutely. God is and always will be the priority in my life. Priority above what I want, what other's want, over anything and everything. |
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Not after the Lord specifically told them both it was a test. so you admit that before they knew it was a test..that God was asking Abraham to mentally abuse his child It's called a test Funches. We are God's creation, he can test us any way he wishes. There is no mentally abusing any child. Obviously he was willing to be sacrificed, there is no sign of him refusing or fighting to stop the sacrifice. well, he tested the hell out of lot, didn't he? Yes he did, he does to us all. This life is nothing but a test. God never "tempts" anyone, but he does test them. |
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Edited by
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 Not after the Lord specifically told them both it was a test. so you admit that before they knew it was a test..that God was asking Abraham to mentally abuse his child It's called a test Funches. We are God's creation, he can test us any way he wishes. There is no mentally abusing any child. Obviously he was willing to be sacrificed, there is no sign of him refusing or fighting to stop the sacrifice.
Cowboy....so if God commands you to offer your child up as a burnt offerring...you actually would? Absolutely. God is and always will be the priority in my life. Priority above what I want, what other's want, over anything and everything. that's sick
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only to those who worship the flesh, which is temporary
some believe the spirit is eternal and therefore demands much more reverence and attention |
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Edited by
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Not after the Lord specifically told them both it was a test. so you admit that before they knew it was a test..that God was asking Abraham to mentally abuse his child It's called a test Funches. We are God's creation, he can test us any way he wishes. There is no mentally abusing any child. Obviously he was willing to be sacrificed, there is no sign of him refusing or fighting to stop the sacrifice. Bull crap. God does not talk to people and tell them to kill their children. Demons might, but not God. God, as many have insisted, knows everything. Therefore he does not have to "test" anyone. If you think God is telling you to kill someone, you had better go see a shrink. Get a grip on reality. |
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Not after the Lord specifically told them both it was a test. so you admit that before they knew it was a test..that God was asking Abraham to mentally abuse his child It's called a test Funches. We are God's creation, he can test us any way he wishes. There is no mentally abusing any child. Obviously he was willing to be sacrificed, there is no sign of him refusing or fighting to stop the sacrifice. Bull crap. God does not talk to people and tell them to kill their children. Demons might, but not God. God, as many have insisted, knows everything. Therefore he does not have to "test" anyone. If you think God is telling you to kill someone, you had better go see a shrink. Get a grip on reality. Not with this specific senario, but God tests us everyday. And I never said God has told me to kill anyone, please don't turn this personal, we're just have a general discussion here. God does know everything. But our actions before hand are not specifically there to know. There is nothing to know before we do our actions. That's what free will is, and why we are judged on those actions. Wouldn't make much sense if God already knew every action we'd take from birth. There would be no need to waste the time of our life. We would just be born, and either die or be rewarded with eternal life symotaneously. |
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Not after the Lord specifically told them both it was a test. so you admit that before they knew it was a test..that God was asking Abraham to mentally abuse his child It's called a test Funches. We are God's creation, he can test us any way he wishes. There is no mentally abusing any child. Obviously he was willing to be sacrificed, there is no sign of him refusing or fighting to stop the sacrifice. Bull crap. God does not talk to people and tell them to kill their children. Demons might, but not God. God, as many have insisted, knows everything. Therefore he does not have to "test" anyone. If you think God is telling you to kill someone, you had better go see a shrink. Get a grip on reality. Not with this specific senario, but God tests us everyday. And I never said God has told me to kill anyone, please don't turn this personal, we're just have a general discussion here. Don't get the impression that I was getting personal just because I responded with a quote to your post. I was not just talking to you. I am talking to ANYONE who believes that God talks to people (or ever did,) telling them to kill someone. God does know everything. But our actions before hand are not specifically there to know. There is nothing to know before we do our actions. That's what free will is, and why we are judged on those actions. Wouldn't make much sense if God already knew every action we'd take from birth. There would be no need to waste the time of our life. We would just be born, and either die or be rewarded with eternal life symotaneously. I agree. But as I said, God does not talk to people or test them or tell them to kill their children. |
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Not after the Lord specifically told them both it was a test. so you admit that before they knew it was a test..that God was asking Abraham to mentally abuse his child It's called a test Funches. We are God's creation, he can test us any way he wishes. There is no mentally abusing any child. Obviously he was willing to be sacrificed, there is no sign of him refusing or fighting to stop the sacrifice. Bull crap. God does not talk to people and tell them to kill their children. Demons might, but not God. God, as many have insisted, knows everything. Therefore he does not have to "test" anyone. If you think God is telling you to kill someone, you had better go see a shrink. Get a grip on reality. Not with this specific senario, but God tests us everyday. And I never said God has told me to kill anyone, please don't turn this personal, we're just have a general discussion here. Don't get the impression that I was getting personal just because I responded with a quote to your post. I was not just talking to you. I am talking to ANYONE who believes that God talks to people (or ever did,) telling them to kill someone. God does know everything. But our actions before hand are not specifically there to know. There is nothing to know before we do our actions. That's what free will is, and why we are judged on those actions. Wouldn't make much sense if God already knew every action we'd take from birth. There would be no need to waste the time of our life. We would just be born, and either die or be rewarded with eternal life symotaneously. I agree. But as I said, God does not talk to people or test them or tell them to kill their children. I agree. But as I said, God does not talk to people or test them or tell them to kill their children. No because again, we are no longer saved by "our" works. We are now saved by the grace of God. So therefore God wouldn't have anyone "sacrifice" anything or any body, because Jesus done made the greatest sacrifice possible for us all. |
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And I don't believe that God ever did "test" anyone or ask anyone to kill their children or tell anyone to kill a bunch of people either.
It never happened. |
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And I don't believe that God ever did "test" anyone or ask anyone to kill their children or tell anyone to kill a bunch of people either. It never happened. And that by all means is your choice. But still God "kills/murders" no one nor does he instruct anyone to "kill/murder" anyone. Murder is unlawful, God is the law. Therefor any commandment he gives or has given is law, therefore again, could not possibly be "murder". |
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And I don't believe that God ever did "test" anyone or ask anyone to kill their children or tell anyone to kill a bunch of people either. It never happened. And that by all means is your choice. But still God "kills/murders" no one nor does he instruct anyone to "kill/murder" anyone. Murder is unlawful, God is the law. Therefor any commandment he gives or has given is law, therefore again, could not possibly be "murder". Murder is murder when it is done by the hand of man. Killing is killing when it is done by the hand of man. If "God" wanted someone to die, they would just simply drop dead. There would be no need to start wars and tell people to kill other people. |
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And I don't believe that God ever did "test" anyone or ask anyone to kill their children or tell anyone to kill a bunch of people either. It never happened. And that by all means is your choice. But still God "kills/murders" no one nor does he instruct anyone to "kill/murder" anyone. Murder is unlawful, God is the law. Therefor any commandment he gives or has given is law, therefore again, could not possibly be "murder". Murder is murder when it is done by the hand of man. Killing is killing when it is done by the hand of man. If "God" wanted someone to die, they would just simply drop dead. There would be no need to start wars and tell people to kill other people. We were kicked out of the Garden of Eden, remember? God doesn't hand us everything we need/want on a silver platter anymore. We must earn it one way or other, through faith or works. Why do you feel we should have been a spoiled bunch of people where God did all the leg work? Remember, that was done once, but we lost that through our disobedience. |
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ur inferences are ur own there have been traditional punishments in every culture for those who broke the LAWS OF THE LAND stoning was once a tradition, as was hanging, as is now electrocution I think MAN gets it wrong when he 'plays God' by taking human life intentionally I dont think 'spanking' is anywhere near the same level and I dont think its at all 'wrong' so MsHarmony... yes or no...did God get it wrong in the Old Testament pertaining to handing out punishment to unruly children if you are speaking of spare the rod spoil the child from my personal observation,, the bible got that perfectly,,, In the Talmud, spare the rod-the rod means a shepards crock, ie- spare guidance, ruin the child. |
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And I don't believe that God ever did "test" anyone or ask anyone to kill their children or tell anyone to kill a bunch of people either. It never happened. And that by all means is your choice. But still God "kills/murders" no one nor does he instruct anyone to "kill/murder" anyone. Murder is unlawful, God is the law. Therefor any commandment he gives or has given is law, therefore again, could not possibly be "murder". Murder is murder when it is done by the hand of man. Killing is killing when it is done by the hand of man. If "God" wanted someone to die, they would just simply drop dead. There would be no need to start wars and tell people to kill other people. We were kicked out of the Garden of Eden, remember? God doesn't hand us everything we need/want on a silver platter anymore. We must earn it one way or other, through faith or works. Why do you feel we should have been a spoiled bunch of people where God did all the leg work? Remember, that was done once, but we lost that through our disobedience. God does not have us running around doing his killing for him. I'm really worried about you if you believe that. And no, I don't remember being kicked out of the Garden of Eden. |
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only to those who worship the flesh, which is temporary some believe the spirit is eternal and therefore demands much more reverence and attention |
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