insisting that one should act "as if" the original never existed in order to make something else the original points to fraud

No, they are both original. One is not a copy nor an alteration of the other. One came to a conclusion, it was finished. So God instated a new covenant.

Ah, but it is firsthand. For again, it is not an alteration of the previous covenant. It is a new set of laws all in it's own, one finished, came to an end. So with that, a new covenant was instated.

impossible....the stoning laws handed down to Moses would be the Original laws...

see once again you claim they are a new set of laws....

Cowboy...you're a scary dude...and you guys actually use to burn witches over this nonsense

Incorrect. The "first" laws that we know of would lay with Adam and Eve. The only law that I am aware of is not to eat of the tree of life. And besides that here is the definition of original again incase you did not see - a work composed firsthand

The second covenant is not an alteration of the first, it has nothing to do with the first. The first covenant was FULFILLED Funches, completed, finish, finalized, obsolete. Then God gave us a new covenant. It is original, it's again not an alteration of the first. It is an entirely different covenant in it's own.

Even with it being a "new set of laws", it is original. It is not an alteration of something earlier. It is an original set of laws.

Cowboy ..if you want to be right then the solution is simple, simply present the laws that Jesus specifically gave on how to discipline Unruly Children besides stoning the little demons to death

if you can't, then it's an indication that under my tutelage you have learn that no such laws exist and that Christian Parents are still required to murder their unruly children

under God's law Creflo would be innocent of trying to stone his daughter to death with his shoe

but under Man's law...stoning children with shoes is abuse and against the law

Incorrect. For Crefto's actions to stand, you would have to find a definite instruction from the NEW TESTAMENT to stone unruly children.

Jesus didn't give laws that replaced the old laws, as in if he didn't give a teaching on it, then it still stands. The ENTIRE old covenant is finished, holds no water.

Not one bit of the old covenant still holds power over anyone.

Ephesians 6:4
4 And, ye fathers, provoke not your children to wrath: but bring them up in the nurture and admonition of the Lord.

that passage doesn't apply to unruly children since they have already been provoked to wrath ...which is why they are unruly


Cowboy...it's time for you to sign the surrender papers

What are you talking about?

Please give a verse from the NEW TESTAMENT that tells us to stone unruly children then. The old Testament/covenant holds NO water Funches, it is obsolete, it has no authority over anyone, it's history. So give a verse from the new testament that is a direct commandment to stone unruly children.

The only thing in the new testament for dealing with children is loving them as the one I presented. Not bringing them to wrath, treating them with tenderness and love.

And besides all that, of course it applies to unruly children as well. It doesn't say any specific type of "child", says "children". Unruly children are still children Funches.

that's my point....since spanking is the same as striking a child

where in the New Testament are there definite instructions that Christian parents should strike their children as discipline

Please enlighten us all of these verses from the new testament, because the old testament is again fulfilled, completed, finished, finalized, holds no powers, is obsolete.

Cowboy..re-read what I posted....but anyway...you stated earlier in this thread that it was ok for Christian Parents to strike/spank their children as discipline

so where is the verse in the new testament that gives Christian Parents definite instructions that it's ok to strike their children as discipline

Hebrews 12:6-7
6 For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth.

7 If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not?

Chastise - to inflict punishment on (as by whipping)

"stoning" someone is not punishment in a teaching way, it's a punishment to the death. The new covenant we are saved by grace, not by works. Thus teaches to have grace with children just as God has grace with his/us.

Again, after again "stoning" is not "striking" a child. Striking a child would be spanking and stuff of that nature. Stoning a child is to the death Funches, that's what stoning is.

we've already been though this..Hebrews is used to link The Old Testament with the New Testament...the passage you presented was taken from Proverbs.....and there were stoning laws during the times of Proverbs 3:12 from The Old Testament ...

which is proof that the old testament laws still existed in the new testament

try and stay focus Cowboy....since you approve of spanking and spanking is the same as striking a child...then where is a verse in which Jesus gave definite instructions to strike children as discipline

where did Jesus say anything about striking the flesh of a child to discipline them

Hebrews 12:6-7
6 For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth.

7 If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not?

Chastise - to inflict punishment on (as by whipping)

Notice verse 7, for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not? And to chastise is to inflict punishment on by whipping.