Topic: Fake Christians
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Fri 02/10/12 05:13 PM

Dude most christians follow the herd to keep peace in their family or some of their friends are christians,they just say they are and could care 2 chits less about the religion.


Yes this is so true.

It's a social club to most.

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Fri 02/10/12 05:13 PM
Sorry if I offended you. When I think of a Christian I think of my Grandma. She had the Ten Commandments posted right when you walked in the door. She has The Last Supper painting in the Kitchen. She was very pious. She always had some Bible quotes. She went to Church. I just have a hard time believing 76% of so called Christians in America have a devotion like hers.

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Fri 02/10/12 05:15 PM

Dude most christians follow the herd to keep peace in their family or some of their friends are christians,they just say they are and could care 2 chits less about the religion.


No one should be forced to believe in something.

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Fri 02/10/12 05:19 PM

Look at alot of the young girls who are catholics or some christian denomination that are bi-curious.Homosexual acts or thinking about them is an abomination which is up there with blasphemy,meaning you're going to hell in their mythological world.

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Fri 02/10/12 05:20 PM
Edited by Ghostrider2u on Fri 02/10/12 06:00 PM
Why can't we all just believe what we believe??
Why must it always be a debate?
Why do we find fault with others beliefs?
Why must we bash others for their convictions?
Who are we to judge anyone when we ain't so swift ourselves?
Why is the flippin sky blue?
Who really gives a F what others think of us?

Ok......

I'm Done!!!!!



Does anyone get my point?????????

huh

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Fri 02/10/12 06:16 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Fri 02/10/12 06:17 PM

Why can't we all just believe what we believe??
Why must it always be a debate?
Why do we find fault with others beliefs?
Why must we bash others for their convictions?
Who are we to judge anyone when we ain't so swift ourselves?
Why is the flippin sky blue?
Who really gives a F what others think of us?

Ok......

I'm Done!!!!!



Does anyone get my point?????????

huh



We all do just believe what we believe.
We find fault with others beliefs because they are wrong. :wink:
We judge people who are not as smart as we are. :tongue:

The sky is not always blue.

I know cause I'm an artist.laugh

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Mon 02/13/12 12:39 PM

Just uneducated in their faith.

Something about thinking of "faith education" just made me laugh.


Of course what I think is wrong with this country is a little different.

msharmony's photo
Mon 02/13/12 12:42 PM

Why can't we all just believe what we believe??
Why must it always be a debate?
Why do we find fault with others beliefs?
Why must we bash others for their convictions?
Who are we to judge anyone when we ain't so swift ourselves?
Why is the flippin sky blue?
Who really gives a F what others think of us?

Ok......

I'm Done!!!!!



Does anyone get my point?????????

huh



I get it,,,wish others would too

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Mon 02/13/12 12:46 PM
Edited by Bushidobillyclub on Mon 02/13/12 12:47 PM


Why can't we all just believe what we believe??
Why must it always be a debate?
Why do we find fault with others beliefs?
Why must we bash others for their convictions?
Who are we to judge anyone when we ain't so swift ourselves?
Why is the flippin sky blue?
Who really gives a F what others think of us?

Ok......

I'm Done!!!!!



Does anyone get my point?????????

huh



I get it,,,wish others would too
OHHHH we others get it, we just dont agree.

When a mother believes prayer alone will cure cancer her beliefs need to be questioned.

When a legislater believes its his mission in life to save humanity by making this a "Christian nation", Its time to question those beliefs, and his decision making apparatus.

I could go on forever here, magical thinking allows some amazingly twisted conclusions and only becuase we are a secular nation with laws based on objective reality do we not see the kind of witch burning or other such faith based education taking place which guides people into religious decision which are anything but moral.


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Mon 02/13/12 12:46 PM


Just uneducated in their faith.

Something about thinking of "faith education" just made me laugh.


Of course what I think is wrong with this country is a little different.


Yes. We all know what you think of those of us with faith. You make it abundantly clear. Repeatedly.

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Mon 02/13/12 12:48 PM
Edited by Bushidobillyclub on Mon 02/13/12 12:49 PM



Just uneducated in their faith.

Something about thinking of "faith education" just made me laugh.


Of course what I think is wrong with this country is a little different.


Yes. We all know what you think of those of us with faith. You make it abundantly clear. Repeatedly.
Hey dont take it the wrong way, its not personal. Just like your belief in magic isn't some kind of personal attack on rationality.

If you dont mind I am going to keep posting what I think even though you think you have it nailed down? ya mind?

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Mon 02/13/12 12:51 PM




Just uneducated in their faith.

Something about thinking of "faith education" just made me laugh.


Of course what I think is wrong with this country is a little different.


Yes. We all know what you think of those of us with faith. You make it abundantly clear. Repeatedly.
Hey dont take it the wrong way, its not personal. Just like your belief in magic isn't some kind of personal attack on rationality.

If you dont mind I am going to keep posting what I think even though you think you have it nailed down? ya mind?


Knock yourself out.

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Mon 02/13/12 12:52 PM
Knock yourself out.
Its funny becuase I could see you meaning this literally!!! :wink:

hehe.

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Mon 02/13/12 12:55 PM


Look at alot of the young girls who are catholics or some christian denomination that are bi-curious.Homosexual acts or thinking about them is an abomination which is up there with blasphemy,meaning you're going to hell in their mythological world.



King James was a bi-sexual too..

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Mon 02/13/12 12:55 PM
What do you have to do to be a "real" Christian? Memorize everything in the bible? Agree with it? What?

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Mon 02/13/12 12:58 PM



Why can't we all just believe what we believe??
Why must it always be a debate?
Why do we find fault with others beliefs?
Why must we bash others for their convictions?
Who are we to judge anyone when we ain't so swift ourselves?
Why is the flippin sky blue?
Who really gives a F what others think of us?

Ok......

I'm Done!!!!!



Does anyone get my point?????????

huh



I get it,,,wish others would too
OHHHH we others get it, we just dont agree.

When a mother believes prayer alone will cure cancer her beliefs need to be questioned.

When a legislater believes its his mission in life to save humanity by making this a "Christian nation", Its time to question those beliefs, and his decision making apparatus.

I could go on forever here, magical thinking allows some amazingly twisted conclusions and only becuase we are a secular nation with laws based on objective reality do we not see the kind of witch burning or other such faith based education taking place which guides people into religious decision which are anything but moral.




the point was about BASHING others beliefs

if a mother believes in prayer alone for cancer..whose business is it


is someone else being asked to look after that child, or is she going to be the one doing it?


if someone wanted to make this a 'christian nation', how is that any better or worse than making it a 'democratic nation',, until you have some CLUE of what their personal interpretation of the phrase means?

judgmental thinking makes people feel pressured not to be able to draw upon their personal experiences but to follow 'studies' and statistics instead

because we live in a nation of HUMANS we have both judgmental thinking that bullies others and twisted thinking that results in bad choices

right and wrong are not a matter of what studies say or what others tell us, its a matter of how our actions affect the world

EVERY freaking issue is not an issue of being right and wrong, any more than it is about being better or worse, its about peoples PERSONAL Experiences and what has worked FOR THEM

that logic is every bit as detrimental to society as the 'witch hunting' philosophies referred to by non believers

Ruth34611's photo
Mon 02/13/12 12:58 PM

Knock yourself out.
Its funny becuase I could see you meaning this literally!!! :wink:

hehe.


Who says I didn't? :wink:

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Mon 02/13/12 01:01 PM
Edited by Bushidobillyclub on Mon 02/13/12 01:08 PM
the point was about BASHING others beliefs

if a mother believes in prayer alone for cancer..whose business is it


is someone else being asked to look after that child, or is she going to be the one doing it?


if someone wanted to make this a 'christian nation', how is that any better or worse than making it a 'democratic nation',, until you have some CLUE of what their personal interpretation of the phrase means?

judgmental thinking makes people feel pressured not to be able to draw upon their personal experiences but to follow 'studies' and statistics instead

because we live in a nation of HUMANS we have both judgmental thinking that bullies others and twisted thinking that results in bad choices

right and wrong are not a matter of what studies say or what others tell us, its a matter of how our actions affect the world

EVERY freaking issue is not an issue of being right and wrong, any more than it is about being better or worse, its about peoples PERSONAL Experiences and what has worked FOR THEM

that logic is every bit as detrimental to society as the 'witch hunting' philosophies referred to by non believers
You seem mad. (I think its all the bolded words that make you seen angry, if you are not then ignore the last question)

What interests me is that my opinion is seen as bashing, but yours is not?

What is the difference?

being better or worse
Is a relational statement which can be assessed for accuracy.

Right and wrong is no different unless you relate it to something not tangible, or to a subjective state, or if the form of the question is nonsensical.


Quick hypothetical question.
- A 6 year old child asks you the same exact question I ask you. Would that make you more or less angry? Why?

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Mon 02/13/12 01:05 PM

Why can't we all just believe what we believe??
Why must it always be a debate?
Why do we find fault with others beliefs?
Why must we bash others for their convictions?
Who are we to judge anyone when we ain't so swift ourselves?
Why is the flippin sky blue?
Who really gives a F what others think of us?

Ok......

I'm Done!!!!!



Does anyone get my point?????????

huh


What I'd like to know is why some think different opinions, or questions about their faith, are considered bashing? Some are quick to say someone with a different opinion is bashing them, when that's often not the case.

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Mon 02/13/12 01:06 PM

What do you have to do to be a "real" Christian? Memorize everything in the bible? Agree with it? What?


An actual true Christian is nothing more than this:

"A Christian is someone who has decided to entrust his/her life to Jesus Christ. A Christian trusts Christ for the forgiveness of sin, a right standing before God, and guidance in life."

John 3:3

"Truly I say to you unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God."

The term, 'born-again', or 'born of the Spirit', is merely when a person places his or her trust in Jesus.

In short, it is Christ himself that makes a Christian a Christian. Not a Bible nor the said-knowledge this Book contains.

Going to church, donating to charity; etc, these acts alone do not 'make' a Christian. Only Jesus, through Jesus, can a person truly become a Christian.

Us non-believers, refer to such as 'faith'.

John 1:13

"Who were born, not of blood nor the will of the flesh nor the will of man, but of God."

What makes a Christian.. is faith.

Knowing you have the power, will, and ability to do any and all that you can upon this Earth, but that you still try to dedicate a portion of your energies, into the will of the Lord.

...that is a Christian.

Not his knowledge of a book.