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Topic: Cosmological Argument
funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Thu 01/26/12 06:14 AM
It's rather humorous that earlier in this thread you were after Spider for picking and choosing which posts to respond to yet.. ...that's what you've been doing. what's rather humorous is that you didn't have a clue that Spidecmb was referring to you in that post because you were the only one complaining ..as you are doing now ..are you serious? LMAO I wasn't even in the debate yet! HAHAHA you were claiming that I didn't answer everything in your posts...then spidercmb responded and express that he also didn't answer everything in a post because he felt that some of he stuff in certain posts may be to silly to respond to and then you responded to him and asked him where did this come from spidey..... dude this is not going to be much of a debate if I have to explain all the posts to you

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Thu 01/26/12 06:16 AM
You can't compare a cat to a child. One can listen if asked to get off the bed, the other is oblivious because we do not speak the same language; unless you believe if I hissed or meowed he'd understand? so let's say that the child understand Russian and not English...so is it then ok for you to kick the child off the bed My last post. Under the bold print of the word Second . I answered this. so do you consider kicking a cat off the bed abuse or not? ..you can read right? I'll speak slower. I a n s w e r e d t h i s u n d e r t h e b o l d h e a d i n g m a r k e d a s S E C O N D . all I ask is, do you now consider kicking a cat abuse..... simply answer with a yes or no

Spidercmb Joined Fri 04/27/07 Posts: 13137	Thu 01/26/12 06:23 AM
It's rather humorous that earlier in this thread you were after Spider for picking and choosing which posts to respond to yet.. ...that's what you've been doing. what's rather humorous is that you didn't have a clue that Spidecmb was referring to you in that post because you were the only one complaining ..as you are doing now I wasn't referring to anyone, I was speaking in general. In all honesty, that comment would apply more to you Funches than anyone else in these forums.

Sin_and_Sorrow Joined Sun 01/01/12 Posts: 5757	Thu 01/26/12 06:23 AM
It's rather humorous that earlier in this thread you were after Spider for picking and choosing which posts to respond to yet.. ...that's what you've been doing. what's rather humorous is that you didn't have a clue that Spidecmb was referring to you in that post because you were the only one complaining ..as you are doing now ..are you serious? LMAO I wasn't even in the debate yet! HAHAHA you were claiming that I didn't answer everything in your posts...then spidercmb responded and express that he also didn't answer everything in a post because he felt that some of he stuff in certain posts may be to silly to respond to and then you responded to him and asked him where did this come from spidey..... dude this is not going to be much of a debate if I have to explain all the posts to you It's never been a debate. It's been you doing the whole fallacy thing. ..and who exactly are you to talk about having to repeat posts? LMAO ..you do realize that's what you've been having me do this entire time? ..and my post to him about that was for something entirely different. Dude.

Sin_and_Sorrow Joined Sun 01/01/12 Posts: 5757	Thu 01/26/12 06:24 AM
You can't compare a cat to a child. One can listen if asked to get off the bed, the other is oblivious because we do not speak the same language; unless you believe if I hissed or meowed he'd understand? so let's say that the child understand Russian and not English...so is it then ok for you to kick the child off the bed My last post. Under the bold print of the word Second . I answered this. so do you consider kicking a cat off the bed abuse or not? ..you can read right? I'll speak slower. I a n s w e r e d t h i s u n d e r t h e b o l d h e a d i n g m a r k e d a s S E C O N D . all I ask is, do you now consider kicking a cat abuse..... simply answer with a yes or no And here is example A. I've now answered this four times in a row.

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Thu 01/26/12 06:30 AM
It's rather humorous that earlier in this thread you were after Spider for picking and choosing which posts to respond to yet.. ...that's what you've been doing. what's rather humorous is that you didn't have a clue that Spidecmb was referring to you in that post because you were the only one complaining ..as you are doing now I wasn't referring to anyone, I was speaking in general. In all honesty, that comment would apply more to you Funches than anyone else in these forums. nah...you respond to all any everything in my posts just so that you can get to parrot-phrase the term " false dilemma fallacy". which is only used by those that never heard of "Occam's Razor"

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Thu 01/26/12 06:35 AM Edited by funches on Thu 01/26/12 06:43 AM
all I ask is, do you now consider kicking a cat abuse..... simply answer with a yes or no And here is example A. I've now answered this four times in a row. ok well according to that, you would do the same to the child as you would do to the cat by pushing the child off the bed....hopefully the child is not a newborn and you don't consider this to be anger?

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Thu 01/26/12 06:42 AM
..and who exactly are you to talk about having to repeat posts? LMAO ..you do realize that's what you've been having me do this entire time? I have to because you try to be slick and askew from the truth FOR EXAMPLE you were trying to make it appear that what happen when you were dragged off to the shrink that the shrink was only a one time incident and that you have no choice but yet you revealed "unknowingly" that you have a "Long History" with psychologists and therapists so did you have to be dragged kicking and screaming to each session?

Spidercmb Joined Fri 04/27/07 Posts: 13137	Thu 01/26/12 06:51 AM
nah...you respond to all any everything in my posts just so that you can get to parrot-phrase the term " false dilemma fallacy". which is only used by those that never heard of "Occam's Razor" That's funny. You are a funny guy when you want to be.

Sin_and_Sorrow Joined Sun 01/01/12 Posts: 5757	Thu 01/26/12 06:52 AM
all I ask is, do you now consider kicking a cat abuse..... simply answer with a yes or no And here is example A. I've now answered this four times in a row. ok well according to that, you would do the same to the child as you would do to the cat by pushing the child off the bed....hopefully the child is not a newborn and you don't consider this to be anger? ..now you're speculating and creating a situation that doesn't even happen. If it was a newborn, which is an entirely NEW and DIFFERENT situation; NO. So, NO for the 25th time. It is NOT anger.

Sin_and_Sorrow Joined Sun 01/01/12 Posts: 5757	Thu 01/26/12 06:55 AM
..and who exactly are you to talk about having to repeat posts? LMAO ..you do realize that's what you've been having me do this entire time? I have to because you try to be slick and askew from the truth FOR EXAMPLE you were trying to make it appear that what happen when you were dragged off to the shrink that the shrink was only a one time incident and that you have no choice but yet you revealed "unknowingly" that you have a "Long History" with psychologists and therapists so did you have to be dragged kicking and screaming to each session? ..try to be slick? I've revealed so much about myself and for what? ..and no, that's you assuming again. ..and next, I never said that was a one time thing, I was stating that me being drug their was a one time thing.. ..and if you are not avoiding, why are we even on this? This debate was about: The difference between need and want; which, since I've made it perfectly clear the difference you diverted the topic. It was about God not being able to NEED anything, so I said he WANTED to. Again, you switched the subject. ..so on and so forth. You keep changing the topic and every time I try to go back to it, you change it to something entirely different.

Sin_and_Sorrow Joined Sun 01/01/12 Posts: 5757	Thu 01/26/12 06:56 AM
I'm calling Fallacy and I'm not even religious. So what's your take on that? Going to say 'that's the religious stance' to me?

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Thu 01/26/12 07:07 AM
nah...you respond to all any everything in my posts just so that you can get to parrot-phrase the term " false dilemma fallacy". which is only used by those that never heard of "Occam's Razor" That's funny. You are a funny guy when you want to be. funny and accurate...a religious person would want to include all type of crazy fantasies into the equation because let's face it believing in a God is a tad bit delusional and Faith allows one to call everything that is not part of their religious beliefs a "false dimemma fallacy"

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Thu 01/26/12 07:12 AM
all I ask is, do you now consider kicking a cat abuse..... simply answer with a yes or no And here is example A. I've now answered this four times in a row. ok well according to that, you would do the same to the child as you would do to the cat by pushing the child off the bed....hopefully the child is not a newborn and you don't consider this to be anger? ..now you're speculating and creating a situation that doesn't even happen. If it was a newborn, which is an entirely NEW and DIFFERENT situation; NO. So, NO for the 25th time. It is NOT anger. and that's the problem you do not view pushing children off beds or kicking cats as being anger...perhaps one of your therapists was Baron Von Frankenstein but anyway to keep in line with the thread ....what do you believe would be "first cause" for kicking a cat that is doing no harm to you if it's not anger

Sin_and_Sorrow Joined Sun 01/01/12 Posts: 5757	Thu 01/26/12 07:17 AM
all I ask is, do you now consider kicking a cat abuse..... simply answer with a yes or no And here is example A. I've now answered this four times in a row. ok well according to that, you would do the same to the child as you would do to the cat by pushing the child off the bed....hopefully the child is not a newborn and you don't consider this to be anger? ..now you're speculating and creating a situation that doesn't even happen. If it was a newborn, which is an entirely NEW and DIFFERENT situation; NO. So, NO for the 25th time. It is NOT anger. and that's the problem you do not view pushing children off beds or kicking cats as being anger...perhaps one of your therapists was Baron Von Frankenstein but anyway to keep in line with the thread ....what do you believe would be "first cause" for kicking a cat that is doing no harm to you if it's not anger It's not anger.. lmao. Keep in line with the thread?! lmao.. did you really just say that?? HAHAHAHAHAHA Ahem, sorry. >.> You know what? From now on. I'm going to skip repeated questions. Since you've ignored my last 20. Why should I feel obligated to answer yours? I've already proved my point. I've proved your statement false. I've also managed to answer the question for all three sides you miraculously have taken the side of. So, maybe after you re-read, cause I'm not re-re-re-repeating my answers. You'll do one of two things: A. Realize the debate was over yesterday. B. Grasp for something new and irrelevant to toss my way.

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Thu 01/26/12 07:22 AM
The difference between need and want; which, since I've made it perfectly clear the difference you diverted the topic. you claimed that you did things without a logical reason or the need to do them, in such a way that it cause you to kidnapped and dragged to a shrink... this is why i asked you...did you not want help....even if you claim that you didn't want help...your body was telling you did need help and this is the logical reason why you were acting out the same with God and "first cause"....if God is to be blamed for "first cause" ...then a logical reason has to be given as to why a perfect God that needs for naught is accuse of having needs

Sin_and_Sorrow Joined Sun 01/01/12 Posts: 5757	Thu 01/26/12 07:27 AM
The difference between need and want; which, since I've made it perfectly clear the difference you diverted the topic. you claimed that you did things without a logical reason or the need to do them, in such a way that it cause you to kidnapped and dragged to a shrink... this is why i asked you...did you not want help....even if you claim that you didn't want help...your body was telling you did need help and this is the logical reason why you were acting out the same with God and "first cause"....if God is to be blamed for "first cause" ...then a logical reason has to be given as to why a perfect God that needs for naught is accuse of having needs This is called. BS. Or more astutely put. Putting words in my mouth. My body was telling me I needed help? Seriously? What a joke.. Acting out? Where are you getting this stuff? And I answered that! God WANTED not needed WANTED which is NOT the same as a NEED as I've stated 7504328 times; to do so. Again. WANTED to. Wanted to.. WANTED WANTED WANTED to.

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Thu 01/26/12 07:29 AM
I've proved your statement false. you claim that you did things without a logical reason or need ...do you not understand that there were a logical reason...or why else would your Mother see fit to have you dragged to a shrink kicking and screaming you at that point in time was incapable of knowing what you wanted or needed...which is why your Mother had to make those decisions for you

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Thu 01/26/12 07:33 AM Edited by funches on Thu 01/26/12 07:33 AM
God WANTED not needed WANTED which is NOT the same as a NEED as I've stated 7504328 times; to do so. Again. WANTED to. Wanted to.. WANTED WANTED WANTED to. regressing back into child like behavior will not make what you say be right .....that only works for perfect Gods

Sin_and_Sorrow Joined Sun 01/01/12 Posts: 5757	Thu 01/26/12 07:33 AM
I've proved your statement false. you claim that you did things without a logical reason or need ...do you not understand that there were a logical reason...or why else would your Mother see fit to have you dragged to a shrink kicking and screaming you at that point in time was incapable of knowing what you wanted or needed...which is why your Mother had to make those decisions for you I did, and you are focusing on that single one. I didn't need a shrink. I still don't need a shrink. I didn't need a shrink on those years. Why? Because, and you are going to be sooo shocked to hear this for the 50th time.. It wasn't life threatening, it wasn't a necessity. Wha? Did he just say that? Why yes, yes I did say that. School - Wanted me to go. Mom - Wanted me to go. Want. Want. Want. Want. Not. Need need or need. But want. want. want. want. One more time for the hearing impaired.. Wanted. Not. Needed. Wanted. Not Needed. And again. Want. Not. Need. Want. Not. Need. Get it yet?