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Topic: What are your personal feelings about 911?
s1owhand's photo
Sun 12/18/11 07:34 PM
Edited by s1owhand on Sun 12/18/11 07:39 PM
laugh

All of the data has been exhaustively analyzed, all of the members
of the Al-Qaida team have been identified who trained, boarded,
hijacked and piloted the airplanes killing so many.

There are no mysteries here at all anymore and it had nothing to do
with US complicity or Mossad agents.

laugh

RIP Osama Bin Laden

actionlynx's photo
Sun 12/18/11 07:39 PM
Might I remind people of the OP's intention?

The purpose was to give each person a chance to voice his or her view without criticism or ridicule.

An open forum to see how others view this one event.

No debating. No links. No disputes over facts or evidence. No statements or opinions on another person's point of view.

Just your opinion as it applies to 9/11.

Nothing more.

Call it a social experiment of sorts.

msharmony's photo
Sun 12/18/11 07:40 PM


It was an attack that was permitted go succeed amongst the thousands which have been successfully thwarted. We were looking for a way to gain support for an Iraq invasion since before Clinton and this was it.

It was a waste of life on all sides and part of its provocation was our own policies and actions in compliance with israel vs muslim countries.

It was an attack on our ego, that backfired when we allowed it to happen and thus gained support to infiltrate the middle east,,,,,


1993 First attack on WTC .. was it thwarted?

1995 Oklahoma City Bombing.. was it thwarted?

1996 Khobar Towers .. was it thwarted?

1998 US Embassies Kenya Tanzania.. were they thwarted?

2000 USS Cole ... was it thwarted?


Looks like your boy clinton did a real good job thwarting all the terrorist attacks during his administration..

Unbelievable..



Im speaking more specifically of terrorist attacks on AMERICAN soil, we are much more diligent in protecting american citizens in america

OKC was a crazy american, who we have much less freedom and support for investigating and whose rights make it harder to thwart ,,,,,,

There are more than likely a LIST or such 'attacks' around the world under any president , and Im not quite sure which ones earn the 'terrorist' label or not


but we do pretty well keeping AMERICAN soil safe,,,,

solox123's photo
Sun 12/18/11 07:43 PM
My opinion is that it was all planned. So many studies/evidence from A LOT of experts that confirms explosives were attached to the building... They only did that to invade Iraq for their oil.

s1owhand's photo
Sun 12/18/11 07:45 PM
Sure. It is interesting to see how people view it. We know that there
are a lot of people who are still chasing after discredited
conspiracy theories even after they have been shown conclusively to
be unsupported by the evidence.

No way to prevent it from appearing ridiculous however.
Truthfully, Can't be done.

laugh

msharmony's photo
Sun 12/18/11 07:57 PM
there was an official report about the 'warnings' of a potential attack there and of the men learning to fly but not land a plane

ID say that is indeed SOME support for the possiiblity the government knew about and permitted the attacks

it may be wrong or right(That they permitted it), but it is support of the theory that they at the very least KNEW about it,,,

Bestinshow's photo
Sun 12/18/11 09:04 PM

Sure. It is interesting to see how people view it. We know that there
are a lot of people who are still chasing after discredited
conspiracy theories even after they have been shown conclusively to
be unsupported by the evidence.

No way to prevent it from appearing ridiculous however.
Truthfully, Can't be done.

laugh
You keep saying that over and over but its not sticking.

It seems more and more people are saying the same thing I am.

despite the massive propaganda campaigns more and more people are simply saying No freaking way it happened as described by the 911 commission.

Heck even the 911 commission thinks they were lied too.


The 9/11 Commission now tells us that the official version of 9/11 was based on false testimony and documents and is almost entirely untrue. The details of this massive cover-up are carefully outlined in a book by John Farmer, who was the Senior Counsel for the 9/11 Commission. "
http://www.salem-news.com/articles/september112009/911_truth_9-11-09.php


but somehow you remain willfully misinformed and toss out your laughing Icons as if your right.

Your makeing yourself look foolish.

no photo
Sun 12/18/11 09:49 PM
Let me ask the most obvious over-looked question that no one has asked yet here or,,in TV land..

IF YOU were a terrorist and wanted to harm the USA,,and YOU had the plan and the way to USE jet passenger planes as your vessels of destructions to CAUSE...WHY WERE NO USA NUCLEAR POWER STATIONS A TARGET FOR ANY OF THOSE FLIGHTS?

As THAT isn't an Einstein Theory to COME UP WITH HERE?

And yet,,THEY LEFT THEM OUT,,,The MOST BIGGEST WAY to cause MASS DESTRUCTION HERE?? WHY,,THEY WANTED TO KILL AND WOUND THIS COUNTRY SO BAD,,,yet the most DAMAGED GAINED ATTACK of one of our Power Stations,,were not even one PLANNED TARGET to DESTROY?

Come -ON people,,If I had THAT plan for doing THAT to ANY COUNTRY and cause the WORLD to SEE ALL MY GLORY done to that Country..

Why not ANY INSANE INDIVIDUALS FIRST THOUGHTS OF DAMAGE TO MAKE HAPPEM THERE?

ANY REAL TERRORIST GROUP WOULD THINK OF THAT FIRST AS AN ATTACK PLAN OVER TWO BUILDINGS IN NYC??? PLEASE..

msharmony's photo
Sun 12/18/11 09:57 PM
Edited by msharmony on Sun 12/18/11 09:59 PM

Let me ask the most obvious over-looked question that no one has asked yet here or,,in TV land..

IF YOU were a terrorist and wanted to harm the USA,,and YOU had the plan and the way to USE jet passenger planes as your vessels of destructions to CAUSE...WHY WERE NO USA NUCLEAR POWER STATIONS A TARGET FOR ANY OF THOSE FLIGHTS?

As THAT isn't an Einstein Theory to COME UP WITH HERE?

And yet,,THEY LEFT THEM OUT,,,The MOST BIGGEST WAY to cause MASS DESTRUCTION HERE?? WHY,,THEY WANTED TO KILL AND WOUND THIS COUNTRY SO BAD,,,yet the most DAMAGED GAINED ATTACK of one of our Power Stations,,were not even one PLANNED TARGET to DESTROY?

Come -ON people,,If I had THAT plan for doing THAT to ANY COUNTRY and cause the WORLD to SEE ALL MY GLORY done to that Country..

Why not ANY INSANE INDIVIDUALS FIRST THOUGHTS OF DAMAGE TO MAKE HAPPEM THERE?

ANY REAL TERRORIST GROUP WOULD THINK OF THAT FIRST AS AN ATTACK PLAN OVER TWO BUILDINGS IN NYC??? PLEASE..



except that plenty of real terrorist groups have attacked in the past and NEVER attacked power plants,, so its not such a given that that would be the target automatically

We have not made such attacks on others so it stands that an attack that is trying to be justified would have to be SIMILAR to something we have done to others

like taking down towers with innocent people,,,

OSama stated that this plan first came to his head as a REACTION to our involvement with an incident in which he witnessed a TOWER of innocent people be taken down and destroyed through military actions


no photo
Sun 12/18/11 09:58 PM
Another FIRST for our great Inteligents Groups was THEY ARRIVED AND TOOK ALL EVIDENCE FROM THOSE TERRORISTS HOMES AND HAD THEM SEALED LONG BEFORE ANY NEWS REPORTER COULD BE AT ONE OF THEIR HOMES OR APARTMENTS,,,WOW THAT WAS FAST FOR THEM TO RESPOND THERE AND GONE before the press who LIVE there and recieved that news right after the Gov. knew it....
Most TIMES the Press BEATS them to ANY PLACE THEY HAVE BEEN SENT TO,,
And all the evidence collected and given was NOT OPEN TO DISECT by other Offices of State...
This was an International flight we're talking,,do you know how many Nationalist are on EACH PLANE to even CHECK THEIR NAMES OUT IN THEIR SYSTEMS and THATS providing THEY HAD ARREST RECORDS ANYWHERE BEFORE TO SHOW IN THEIR SYSTEMS??
And THEY NEVER SEARCHED ONE WRONG HOUSE OR HOME???
Go back and read all that in any news paper....

no photo
Sun 12/18/11 10:03 PM


Let me ask the most obvious over-looked question that no one has asked yet here or,,in TV land..

IF YOU were a terrorist and wanted to harm the USA,,and YOU had the plan and the way to USE jet passenger planes as your vessels of destructions to CAUSE...WHY WERE NO USA NUCLEAR POWER STATIONS A TARGET FOR ANY OF THOSE FLIGHTS?

As THAT isn't an Einstein Theory to COME UP WITH HERE?

And yet,,THEY LEFT THEM OUT,,,The MOST BIGGEST WAY to cause MASS DESTRUCTION HERE?? WHY,,THEY WANTED TO KILL AND WOUND THIS COUNTRY SO BAD,,,yet the most DAMAGED GAINED ATTACK of one of our Power Stations,,were not even one PLANNED TARGET to DESTROY?

Come -ON people,,If I had THAT plan for doing THAT to ANY COUNTRY and cause the WORLD to SEE ALL MY GLORY done to that Country..

Why not ANY INSANE INDIVIDUALS FIRST THOUGHTS OF DAMAGE TO MAKE HAPPEM THERE?

ANY REAL TERRORIST GROUP WOULD THINK OF THAT FIRST AS AN ATTACK PLAN OVER TWO BUILDINGS IN NYC??? PLEASE..



except that plenty of real terrorist groups have attacked in the past and NEVER attacked power plants,, so its not such a given that that would be the target automatically

We have not made such attacks on others so it stands that an attack that is trying to be justified would have to be SIMILAR to something we have done to others

like taking down towers with innocent people,,,


The reason that it has never happen here is the security surrounding them here,,THIS plan left THEM wide open,,and trust me,,THEY HAD TO HAVE KNOWN THAT,,and the innorcent people would have been Millions more,,IF that was what they wanted to cause,,human lives lost,,,and IF that was their goal,,,again,,THEY could have went straight up,,and dove straight down into the heart of NYC causing much more lives to have been lost from that kind of force being splattered out ward..instead of flying through their sides....?

msharmony's photo
Sun 12/18/11 10:07 PM



Let me ask the most obvious over-looked question that no one has asked yet here or,,in TV land..

IF YOU were a terrorist and wanted to harm the USA,,and YOU had the plan and the way to USE jet passenger planes as your vessels of destructions to CAUSE...WHY WERE NO USA NUCLEAR POWER STATIONS A TARGET FOR ANY OF THOSE FLIGHTS?

As THAT isn't an Einstein Theory to COME UP WITH HERE?

And yet,,THEY LEFT THEM OUT,,,The MOST BIGGEST WAY to cause MASS DESTRUCTION HERE?? WHY,,THEY WANTED TO KILL AND WOUND THIS COUNTRY SO BAD,,,yet the most DAMAGED GAINED ATTACK of one of our Power Stations,,were not even one PLANNED TARGET to DESTROY?

Come -ON people,,If I had THAT plan for doing THAT to ANY COUNTRY and cause the WORLD to SEE ALL MY GLORY done to that Country..

Why not ANY INSANE INDIVIDUALS FIRST THOUGHTS OF DAMAGE TO MAKE HAPPEM THERE?

ANY REAL TERRORIST GROUP WOULD THINK OF THAT FIRST AS AN ATTACK PLAN OVER TWO BUILDINGS IN NYC??? PLEASE..



except that plenty of real terrorist groups have attacked in the past and NEVER attacked power plants,, so its not such a given that that would be the target automatically

We have not made such attacks on others so it stands that an attack that is trying to be justified would have to be SIMILAR to something we have done to others

like taking down towers with innocent people,,,


The reason that it has never happen here is the security surrounding them here,,THIS plan left THEM wide open,,and trust me,,THEY HAD TO HAVE KNOWN THAT,,and the innorcent people would have been Millions more,,IF that was what they wanted to cause,,human lives lost,,,and IF that was their goal,,,again,,THEY could have went straight up,,and dove straight down into the heart of NYC causing much more lives to have been lost from that kind of force being splattered out ward..instead of flying through their sides....?



I have never made a terrorist plan, so I can not speak to which plans a terrorist chooses over others or why

all I can say is that OBL stated his motivation was a similar incident that happened to fellow muslims and the continued support of american government in aiding those who caused that and other such incidents where muslims died

I dont know enough about flying to say what is easy or not easy or what is more reasonable for a nonflying person to learn,,, regarding flying horizontally or flying straight up above and then pointing straight downward

but I imagine it was easiest to learn just what they learned and to do just what they did

metalwing's photo
Sun 12/18/11 10:21 PM

Let me ask the most obvious over-looked question that no one has asked yet here or,,in TV land..

IF YOU were a terrorist and wanted to harm the USA,,and YOU had the plan and the way to USE jet passenger planes as your vessels of destructions to CAUSE...WHY WERE NO USA NUCLEAR POWER STATIONS A TARGET FOR ANY OF THOSE FLIGHTS?

As THAT isn't an Einstein Theory to COME UP WITH HERE?

And yet,,THEY LEFT THEM OUT,,,The MOST BIGGEST WAY to cause MASS DESTRUCTION HERE?? WHY,,THEY WANTED TO KILL AND WOUND THIS COUNTRY SO BAD,,,yet the most DAMAGED GAINED ATTACK of one of our Power Stations,,were not even one PLANNED TARGET to DESTROY?

Come -ON people,,If I had THAT plan for doing THAT to ANY COUNTRY and cause the WORLD to SEE ALL MY GLORY done to that Country..

Why not ANY INSANE INDIVIDUALS FIRST THOUGHTS OF DAMAGE TO MAKE HAPPEM THERE?

ANY REAL TERRORIST GROUP WOULD THINK OF THAT FIRST AS AN ATTACK PLAN OVER TWO BUILDINGS IN NYC??? PLEASE..


It would be very difficult to seriously damage the containment structure of a nuclear power plant with an airplane. The walls are thick concrete and designed to contain explosive force. Even if a hole was punched in the containment shell, the shell only comes into play if there is an accidental release of radiation probably from a cooling problem. A power plant would make a poor target.

Lpdon's photo
Sun 12/18/11 10:45 PM


Sure. It is interesting to see how people view it. We know that there
are a lot of people who are still chasing after discredited
conspiracy theories even after they have been shown conclusively to
be unsupported by the evidence.

No way to prevent it from appearing ridiculous however.
Truthfully, Can't be done.

laugh
You keep saying that over and over but its not sticking.

It seems more and more people are saying the same thing I am.

despite the massive propaganda campaigns more and more people are simply saying No freaking way it happened as described by the 911 commission.

Heck even the 911 commission thinks they were lied too.


The 9/11 Commission now tells us that the official version of 9/11 was based on false testimony and documents and is almost entirely untrue. The details of this massive cover-up are carefully outlined in a book by John Farmer, who was the Senior Counsel for the 9/11 Commission. "
http://www.salem-news.com/articles/september112009/911_truth_9-11-09.php


but somehow you remain willfully misinformed and toss out your laughing Icons as if your right.

Your makeing yourself look foolish.


Less then 1% of Americans are truthers. The truth is everyone saw what happened with their own eyes.

Lpdon's photo
Sun 12/18/11 10:50 PM

laugh

All of the data has been exhaustively analyzed, all of the members
of the Al-Qaida team have been identified who trained, boarded,
hijacked and piloted the airplanes killing so many.

There are no mysteries here at all anymore and it had nothing to do
with US complicity or Mossad agents.

laugh

RIP Osama Bin Laden


Their Martyr Videos they made prior to the attacks were all posted on AQ's and the Talibans websites right after the attacks and can still be found on the internet.

Lpdon's photo
Sun 12/18/11 10:56 PM
Edited by Lpdon on Sun 12/18/11 10:57 PM

Let me ask the most obvious over-looked question that no one has asked yet here or,,in TV land..

IF YOU were a terrorist and wanted to harm the USA,,and YOU had the plan and the way to USE jet passenger planes as your vessels of destructions to CAUSE...WHY WERE NO USA NUCLEAR POWER STATIONS A TARGET FOR ANY OF THOSE FLIGHTS?

As THAT isn't an Einstein Theory to COME UP WITH HERE?

And yet,,THEY LEFT THEM OUT,,,The MOST BIGGEST WAY to cause MASS DESTRUCTION HERE?? WHY,,THEY WANTED TO KILL AND WOUND THIS COUNTRY SO BAD,,,yet the most DAMAGED GAINED ATTACK of one of our Power Stations,,were not even one PLANNED TARGET to DESTROY?

Come -ON people,,If I had THAT plan for doing THAT to ANY COUNTRY and cause the WORLD to SEE ALL MY GLORY done to that Country..

Why not ANY INSANE INDIVIDUALS FIRST THOUGHTS OF DAMAGE TO MAKE HAPPEM THERE?

ANY REAL TERRORIST GROUP WOULD THINK OF THAT FIRST AS AN ATTACK PLAN OVER TWO BUILDINGS IN NYC??? PLEASE..


rofl Did you really just ask that? You don't know how they work then. rofl

Lpdon's photo
Sun 12/18/11 10:59 PM
Not to mention The World Trade Center is a symbol of America and Capitolism that they have tried to and wanted to target for years.

Kleisto's photo
Mon 12/19/11 12:24 AM

I dont know enough about flying to say what is easy or not easy or what is more reasonable for a nonflying person to learn,,, regarding flying horizontally or flying straight up above and then pointing straight downward

but I imagine it was easiest to learn just what they learned and to do just what they did


Problem is even trained pilots have said they would struggle to do what they did, if not said what they are said to have done would have been impossible. If they're saying that, there's no way people with LESS experience than them could do this in one shot.

s1owhand's photo
Mon 12/19/11 01:22 AM
Edited by s1owhand on Mon 12/19/11 01:38 AM


Sure. It is interesting to see how people view it. We know that there
are a lot of people who are still chasing after discredited
conspiracy theories even after they have been shown conclusively to
be unsupported by the evidence.

No way to prevent it from appearing ridiculous however.
Truthfully, Can't be done.

laugh
You keep saying that over and over but its not sticking.

It seems more and more people are saying the same thing I am.

despite the massive propaganda campaigns more and more people are simply saying No freaking way it happened as described by the 911 commission.



rofl

I have not seen anyone credible from the 911 commission or anywhere
else give even the tiniest shred of evidence that any of these wacky
conspiracy theories have the slightest hint of truth to them.

rofl

I believe that those who are coming up with these paranoid delusional
conspiratorial theories like the ones discredited at http://www.debunking911.com are a
lot like a guy who believes himself to be the emperor of Pluto.
(see Charlie Brooker quote below)

=-=-=-=

All well and good in the world of dreams. But if you continue to believe you're the Emperor of Pluto after you've woken up, and you go into work and start knocking the boxes around with a homemade sceptre while screaming about your birthright, you're in trouble.

I mention this because recently I've found myself bumping into people - intelligent, level-headed people - who are sincerely prepared to entertain the notion that there might be something in some of the less lurid 9/11 conspiracy theories doing the rounds. They mumble about the "controlled demolition" of WTC 7 (oft referred to as "the third tower"), or posit the notion that the Bush administration knew 9/11 was coming and let it happen anyway. I mean, you never know, right? Right? And did I tell you I'm the Emperor of Pluto?

=-=-=-=

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/jul/14/september11.usa

laugh


Sojourning_Soul's photo
Mon 12/19/11 03:16 AM

The simple truth..... there are still many unanswered questions in the opinions of families of the victims, and many other noted professionals in their fields.

I hesitate to accept any "conclusion" when many of the survivors of the victims are still unsatisfied with the answers.

jmo

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