Topic: The Prophecy
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Fri 09/09/11 02:46 PM

Yes Cowboy...being fruitful can also mean to live

productive lives...and being fruitful to a christian means to

bear spirtual fruit...yes I agree....


BUT that is NOT the meaning of "be fruitful" in those

particular passages in GENESIS ,


where God says to sea creatures , fowls of the air, and ALSO

man ,

to" be fruitful and multiply"!!!



God , when addressing the sea creatures and fowls , AND ALSO

man in Genesis(with the EXACT same words ,"be fruitful and

multiply"},

was talking

about BEARING or PRODUCING OFFSPRING!!!!

NOT just living fruitful lives!!



Lord God, , asking, trusting and believing, that You Will

make Your Word

very CLEAR to Cowboy now.


:heart::heart::heart:




The below verse is what God said to the animals. This was before man was in the picture.

1:22

22And God blessed them, saying, Be fruitful, and multiply, and fill the waters in the seas, and let fowl multiply in the earth.

Man didn't come into the picture until

2:7
7And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.
-------------------

This verse is telling man to cleave to his woman. To cleave to someone is to be faithful and loyal to that one. It's marriage more or less. That is all getting married means, that you will love the other and be a faithful companion with them for ever.


2:24
24Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.

Much love to you MorningSong.

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Fri 09/09/11 03:04 PM
Love You too, Cowboy, but I can't make the Word any

clearer .

God ALSO said to MAN (go back and re-read the scriptures that

were shared earlier from genesis again) to be fruitful and

multiply, but for some

reason, you completely skip over that part.

I don't know why.

Obly God knows..and only God can make His Word clear to you now.


Have a great weekend, Cowboy.


:heart::heart::heart:

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Fri 09/09/11 06:27 PM
1:6 male and female were created in the image of god.

Your quote...
"2:7
7And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.
------------------- " is a common mistranslation of ancient hebrew...

Should read... 'And the Lord God formed Adam of the dust of the earth... ... and Adam becam a living soul.'

Adam in ancient hebrew is 'man'...

made to tend the garden...

yet mankind came before him.

God the father, God the mother, Humanity the child.

your trinity. and the Glue is the Holy Spirit. (for it emanates from each of the three).

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Thu 11/17/11 06:51 AM

Should read... 'And the Lord God formed Adam of the dust of the earth... ... and Adam becam a living soul.'


so if Man is a "living soul"...then wouldn't that make a "spirit" a dead soul ...something like how Dracula was...

Dracula was considered to be neither alive or dead...well until he tried to bite you

but he wouldn't be considered to be a living soul but one of spirit ...an undead

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Thu 11/17/11 07:01 AM
The Prophecy

the camera will move from the cellphone to eyeglasses then move to contact lens, everything and anything that anyone does or say within the field of vision can be automatically recorded and uploaded to a video media

for the religious that would dare sin in front of the eyes of God would dare not sin in front of the eyes of the camera

"A.I" shall replace God and the Bible ...and it shall become the new " I AM" ...

technology will not come to change the laws of Moses or teachings of Jesus but merely to full fill them and start a new covenant in which the activities of the religious can be viewed 24-7 to make sure that every night they are on their knees praying and giving their 10 percent in tithes and are not engage in any heathenous activities

since lust is one of the seven deadly sins the religious must learn to have sex without lust and only engage in sex with the benefit of marriage and only then for the purpose of spawning children and otherwise forbidden to have sex or their sexual escapades will be upload to a religious porn site called "Excommunication Tube" where viewers can watch the religious engage in hypocritical heathenous wet hot steamy sexual debauchery in which the video will be rated by how many commandments they broke

since the religious will be under the view of the camera lens and now must follow all the teachings of Jesus and all the commandment of God or face the possibility of being publicly displayed in front of their peers they will begin to forsake religion in which technology will simply breed religion out of society and will only then be used to identify the delusional

this prophecy is based on logic and didn't result in taking away anyone Free Will" but the point of the thread is that a prophecy from God can not take place without taking away "Free Will" or taking away "Faith" because of the fact that God himself made a decision to personally intervene to make sure the prophecy takes place as in the case of Jesus ....

Jesus being the son of God and therefore spawn by God is an example of how "Free Will" was taken away from Mary the mother of Jesus because it required her to bear a child out of wedlock with her Father which is a sin

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Sun 05/06/12 07:14 AM

The Prophecy

that dating sites will give the option for it members to become 3D virtual clones of themselves in which the members will be able to interact within a simulated environment as a walking talking person and can go out on dates with other clone members on the site.....the clones will be able to eat dinner go to the movies and even be able to have sex

have sex?.....oh my God....oops...er... I meant WTF?

but anyway is this why the bible deem "Lust" an abomination...because it prophesied that one day Lust will be used in a way that would make Sodom and Gomorrah look like a girl scout bake sale

because when you think about it "Lust" and the interactivity by clones brings up a hell of a lot of religious moral questions

for instance

if two religious unmarried clones have sex....is it fornication

are the two persons controlling those two clones committing heathenous fornication and fornicating in their heart



an example of this prophecy coming true is the holographic clone technology used in a concert in which a dead tupac shakur performed on stage, , imagine a hologram Bach or Beethoven directing a concert on stage, these performances will be sold out

this technology will also be used in bars, the biggest complaint that night clubs owners have is that bands do next to nothing to promote themselves and bring in customers, this hologram technology will change all of that, simply drop some coins in the jukebox and a hologram Ozzie Osbourne and band pops up and start performing, this will first become a fad and then the norm and put an end to live bands, or even learning how to play a musical instrument

imagine the first church to have a holographic Jesus or God deliver a sermon, the church will be packed for months, or an entire biblical story delivered to the audience exactly how it took place in the bible , this will cause people to start back going to church which will become little more than movie theaters ...

this technology will make the television set obsolete in which everything will appear in front of you as if you are actually there,

the more the technology advances the more real the illusion will appear, anything can appear as a hologram .. you will not be able to tell if an item or even a person is real or a hologram clone ....you will no longer be able to trust what you see...

would a baby that were reared up in an hologram fantasy world up to adulthood cause the adult to question their own existence , especially if you were to ask such a person the question

THE QUESTION:
do you "know" that you yourself exist or do you "believe" that you yourself exist...

which option would they choose.....they would not pick either "believe" or "know" but choose a non-option "both"......

and this is the effect that religion has on people as they attempt to exist in a fantasy driven reality in which they must place their own existence behind that of an entity which can not even be proved to exist beyond faith

but if the hologram clone craze teaches anything it will enlighten us to the fact that beliefs and reality is not truth and that the only absolute truth is your own existence to yourself

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Sun 05/06/12 07:26 AM
Edited by funches on Sun 05/06/12 07:28 AM
A BIBLICAL PROPHECY

that a 100 year old Abraham would have a child with his infertile half sister 90 year old Sara, this prophecy could not take place unless God intervene

and this is why no prophecy of God can ever take place without God intervening and taking away "Free Will"

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Sun 05/06/12 08:04 AM

A BIBLICAL PROPHECY

that a 100 year old Abraham would have a child with his infertile half sister 90 year old Sara, this prophecy could not take place unless God intervene

and this is why no prophecy of God can ever take place without God intervening and taking away "Free Will"


How could it not happen unless "God interened"? Why could it not just have been foreknowledge of what was to come? That is all a prophecy is. It is knowledge, not free willing refuting power.

And what prophecy are you speaking of? I personally don't know of a prophecy of this happening. I know of the scriptures telling us it did happen, but not specifically a prophecy of it happening before it started to be put into place.

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Sun 05/06/12 08:11 AM


Should read... 'And the Lord God formed Adam of the dust of the earth... ... and Adam becam a living soul.'


so if Man is a "living soul"...then wouldn't that make a "spirit" a dead soul ...something like how Dracula was...

Dracula was considered to be neither alive or dead...well until he tried to bite you

but he wouldn't be considered to be a living soul but one of spirit ...an undead


Found this and think it clearifies the confusion here a bit. Your spirit and soul are two different things.

The Bible refers to the soul as being created but there are no references in scripture to our spirit being created. The spirit is given and shaped by God but not created. Just as the soul was created it can be destroyed and can have a destination of either Heaven or Hell after death. This cannot be said of the spirit. There is not one reference to spiritual death in all of scripture. There is not even one reference to the spirit being made alive as though it could have been dead. There is also no reference to the spirit after death. After death one is referred to as a soul with no mention of a spirit.

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Sun 05/06/12 08:16 AM

Love You too, Cowboy, but I can't make the Word any

clearer .

God ALSO said to MAN (go back and re-read the scriptures that

were shared earlier from genesis again) to be fruitful and

multiply, but for some

reason, you completely skip over that part.

I don't know why.

Obly God knows..and only God can make His Word clear to you now.


Have a great weekend, Cowboy.


:heart::heart::heart:


Yes God did tell man to be fruitful and multiply, not denying that. But there is a difference between his instructions to man and to animals. God told man to cleave to his woman. To cleave to a person is in the same sense of "marriage". Animals do not cleave to another, they mate with any female around. Three people can not cleave to one another. Cleave means also to be faithful and true to the one you're cleaving to.

2:24
24Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.

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Sun 05/06/12 10:19 AM

And what prophecy are you speaking of? I personally don't know of a prophecy of this happening. I know of the scriptures telling us it did happen, but not specifically a prophecy of it happening before it started to be put into place.


the prohecy was told to Abraham but overheard by an infertile Sara....

since Sara was infertile then the only way this prophecy could ever take place was if God first took away Abraham's and Sara's "Free Will" and made her fertile....

God didn't ask Abraham nor Sara if they wanted a Child...he forced it upon them and that is why they had no "Free Will"

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Sun 05/06/12 10:20 AM



Should read... 'And the Lord God formed Adam of the dust of the earth... ... and Adam becam a living soul.'


so if Man is a "living soul"...then wouldn't that make a "spirit" a dead soul ...something like how Dracula was...

Dracula was considered to be neither alive or dead...well until he tried to bite you

but he wouldn't be considered to be a living soul but one of spirit ...an undead


Found this and think it clearifies the confusion here a bit. Your spirit and soul are two different things.

The Bible refers to the soul as being created but there are no references in scripture to our spirit being created. The spirit is given and shaped by God but not created. Just as the soul was created it can be destroyed and can have a destination of either Heaven or Hell after death. This cannot be said of the spirit. There is not one reference to spiritual death in all of scripture. There is not even one reference to the spirit being made alive as though it could have been dead. There is also no reference to the spirit after death. After death one is referred to as a soul with no mention of a spirit.


only those of Flesh and Blood have a soul ....the dead or undead consist of spirit

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Sun 05/06/12 10:35 AM


And what prophecy are you speaking of? I personally don't know of a prophecy of this happening. I know of the scriptures telling us it did happen, but not specifically a prophecy of it happening before it started to be put into place.


the prohecy was told to Abraham but overheard by an infertile Sara....

since Sara was infertile then the only way this prophecy could ever take place was if God first took away Abraham's and Sara's "Free Will" and made her fertile....

God didn't ask Abraham nor Sara if they wanted a Child...he forced it upon them and that is why they had no "Free Will"


1. How is making one fertile taking away anyone's free will? Being fertile is not something someone wills to happen or wills not to happen. It either is or isn't.

2. How did God force it upon them? Where do you get your knowledge that neither Abraham nor Sara wanted a child? And where do you get your knowledge God forced it upon them?

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Sun 05/06/12 10:36 AM




Should read... 'And the Lord God formed Adam of the dust of the earth... ... and Adam becam a living soul.'


so if Man is a "living soul"...then wouldn't that make a "spirit" a dead soul ...something like how Dracula was...

Dracula was considered to be neither alive or dead...well until he tried to bite you

but he wouldn't be considered to be a living soul but one of spirit ...an undead


Found this and think it clearifies the confusion here a bit. Your spirit and soul are two different things.

The Bible refers to the soul as being created but there are no references in scripture to our spirit being created. The spirit is given and shaped by God but not created. Just as the soul was created it can be destroyed and can have a destination of either Heaven or Hell after death. This cannot be said of the spirit. There is not one reference to spiritual death in all of scripture. There is not even one reference to the spirit being made alive as though it could have been dead. There is also no reference to the spirit after death. After death one is referred to as a soul with no mention of a spirit.


only those of Flesh and Blood have a soul ....the dead or undead consist of spirit


Please enlighten us where you get this knowledge? Please give an example showing what you said.

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Sun 05/06/12 10:58 AM

How did God force it upon them? Where do you get your knowledge that neither Abraham nor Sara wanted a child? And where do you get your knowledge God forced it upon them?


did God ask Sara if she wanted to have a child?

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Sun 05/06/12 11:06 AM





Should read... 'And the Lord God formed Adam of the dust of the earth... ... and Adam becam a living soul.'


so if Man is a "living soul"...then wouldn't that make a "spirit" a dead soul ...something like how Dracula was...

Dracula was considered to be neither alive or dead...well until he tried to bite you

but he wouldn't be considered to be a living soul but one of spirit ...an undead


Found this and think it clearifies the confusion here a bit. Your spirit and soul are two different things.

The Bible refers to the soul as being created but there are no references in scripture to our spirit being created. The spirit is given and shaped by God but not created. Just as the soul was created it can be destroyed and can have a destination of either Heaven or Hell after death. This cannot be said of the spirit. There is not one reference to spiritual death in all of scripture. There is not even one reference to the spirit being made alive as though it could have been dead. There is also no reference to the spirit after death. After death one is referred to as a soul with no mention of a spirit.


only those of Flesh and Blood have a soul ....the dead or undead consist of spirit


Please enlighten us where you get this knowledge? Please give an example showing what you said.


sorry but now it's your turn to present some evidence to the contrary

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Sun 05/06/12 11:06 AM


How did God force it upon them? Where do you get your knowledge that neither Abraham nor Sara wanted a child? And where do you get your knowledge God forced it upon them?


did God ask Sara if she wanted to have a child?


She was bare without child and her and Abraham had tried before without success. So I would say yes.

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Sun 05/06/12 11:09 AM



How did God force it upon them? Where do you get your knowledge that neither Abraham nor Sara wanted a child? And where do you get your knowledge God forced it upon them?


did God ask Sara if she wanted to have a child?


She was bare without child and her and Abraham had tried before without success. So I would say yes.


I asked you did God ask Sara if she wanted a child...that would be a yes or no

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Sun 05/06/12 11:13 AM




How did God force it upon them? Where do you get your knowledge that neither Abraham nor Sara wanted a child? And where do you get your knowledge God forced it upon them?


did God ask Sara if she wanted to have a child?


She was bare without child and her and Abraham had tried before without success. So I would say yes.


I asked you did God ask Sara if she wanted a child...that would be a yes or no


God didn't ask Sarah. Sarah was bare without child, and Sarah and Abraham wanted a child. So God gave them what they wanted.

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Sun 05/06/12 11:19 AM





How did God force it upon them? Where do you get your knowledge that neither Abraham nor Sara wanted a child? And where do you get your knowledge God forced it upon them?


did God ask Sara if she wanted to have a child?


She was bare without child and her and Abraham had tried before without success. So I would say yes.


I asked you did God ask Sara if she wanted a child...that would be a yes or no


God didn't ask Sarah. Sarah was bare without child, and Sarah and Abraham wanted a child. So God gave them what they wanted.


if God didn't ask....is exactly why Sara did not have the "Free Will" to say no