Topic: Osama Bin Laden WON
Chazster's photo
Wed 05/04/11 07:26 PM

Jesse, everybody on this board knows that you are have the best heart and the strength of your convictions. Your comments seem judgmental at times. That's not a criticism. We all judge. We decide who we want to endear ourselves to, we decide who we don't mind alienating. There's always time to back-track. You may be an Aussie, but in the broader view, we are all Aussie-Americans.

We take these arguments so personally.


You of all people shouldn't claim others are being judgmental
rofl .

no photo
Wed 05/04/11 07:30 PM
non-sequitur

Chazster's photo
Wed 05/04/11 07:38 PM

non-sequitur


Sure yes you are never judgmental.
whoa

no photo
Wed 05/04/11 07:39 PM
Re-read the post that you are responding to

Chazster's photo
Wed 05/04/11 07:51 PM

Re-read the post that you are responding to


Yea I did and I stand by my comment.

no photo
Wed 05/04/11 07:52 PM
Fine . Stand by a street lamp if you want

Chazster's photo
Wed 05/04/11 07:55 PM

Fine . Stand by a street lamp if you want


Aww don't be a grumpy gus.

msharmony's photo
Wed 05/04/11 08:02 PM

Freedom - this is what freedom means to me:

speech from "The American President" with Michael Douglas

America isn't easy. America is advanced citizenship. You've gotta want it bad, 'cause it's gonna put up a fight. It's gonna say, "You want free speech? Let's see you acknowledge a man whose words make your blood boil, who's standing center stage and advocating at the top of his lungs that which you would spend a lifetime opposing at the top of yours." You want to claim this land as the land of the free? Then the symbol of your country cannot just be a flag. The symbol also has to be one of its citizens exercising his right to burn that flag in protest. Now show me that, defend that, celebrate that in your classrooms.

Then you can stand up and sing about the land of the free.



well said

and its a thin line between what one considers bashing a country and what another considers criticism

its this notion of all or nothing that I consider so troublng and understand being troubling to others

would we tell a woman whose man was not paying the bills to just leave him, would we villify her, or would she have the right to try and fix her home by bringing this to the attention of the husband


that love it or leave it sentiment often seems to suggest that noone should talk about the elephants in the room, even when they are about to be trampled by them,,,,

galendgirl's photo
Wed 05/04/11 08:06 PM

...You have the right to say anything you want to anybody you want at any time you want about anything you want. You (and I) have the right to be rude, disingenuous, deceptive, abrasive, whatever. ...


Yes, you have the right. But don't you (and each of us) have the responsibility to do what IS right as well? Attacking Vivian for her patriotism doesn't show tolerance or an appreciation for others which is the flip side or YOUR right to be "rude, disingenuous..." or etc. You expect others to tolerate you exercising your right to rudeness...why should the shoe never fit when others want to exercise a differing opinion? Why can't they do that without censure or abuse? Opposing views can only GAIN credibility when presented respectfully. One person's rights end where another person's rights begin and as far as I am concerned, that's at the end of your (and my) nose.

no photo
Wed 05/04/11 08:17 PM
I don't see anybody's noses getting punched, here.

So, I'm rude, intolerant, "disingenuous", etc., Blah, blah, blah. Sue me.

Read back through all former exchanges and you will find that I have endured nothing but the most demeaning and offensive insults from your people. The shoe fits on both sides. As I said, nobody has the right to say anything they want and remain immune from push-back from others who have the same right.

I think you are way out of line

Dragoness's photo
Wed 05/04/11 08:23 PM

The only one I have the right say "love it or leave it" to is my lover....
That still isn't quite right. You have the right to say anything you want to anybody you want at any time you want about anything you want. You (and I) have the right to be rude, disingenuous, deceptive, abrasive, whatever. We do not have the right to say whatever we want and remain immune from push-back from those who also have that right. The only censors that I see on Mingle are the administrator, who won't let us post naughty stuff.


Oh but it is quite right. The only one who I can say love it or leave it to and it really be applicable is to my lover.

But you are also right no matter what anyone says they should expect a push back because NO ONE is right for everyone. They are only right for themselves. And each opinion is just that an opinion.

The exception is me...lol j/k


galendgirl's photo
Wed 05/04/11 08:27 PM

I don't see anybody's noses getting punched, here.

So, I'm rude, intolerant, "disingenuous", etc., Blah, blah, blah. Sue me.

Read back through all former exchanges and you will find that I have endured nothing but the most demeaning and offensive insults from your people. The shoe fits on both sides. As I said, nobody has the right to say anything they want and remain immune from push-back from others who have the same right.

I think you are way out of line



"Your people?" Really?
'Nuff said.

Dragoness's photo
Wed 05/04/11 08:28 PM


Actually for Americans the death of bin laden has made the world a worse place then before.

It is like the Hatfields and McCoys, it is now just their turn to strike.


This is hogwash. It is not the Hatfields and McCoys. It is religious
warfare and defense of freedom. Bin Laden was not killed for revenge.
Bin Laden was killed solely to further cripple his genocidal religiously
bigoted and inhumane terrorist organization Al-Qaida.

And the dismantling of such an organization is a worthy, noble
and just cause.

drinker

Those who would let Bin Laden live and flourish should live in a
repressive misogynistic society for a while.




They believe their cause is just as righteous as you feel ours is.

Making us on level ground with righteousness..

Making the analogy I have given a fair and accurate analysis.

JUST LIKE A CHESS GAME, THE BELL HAS BEEN RUNG, NOW IT IS THEIR TURN TO RETALIATE. Check mate doesn't happen in this world until we are all dead.

no photo
Wed 05/04/11 08:30 PM
Theres' nobody on this thread that I'm planning on being lovers with. Different rules apply. This is not personal. It is politics

galendgirl's photo
Wed 05/04/11 08:33 PM

Theres' nobody on this thread that I'm planning on being lovers with. Different rules apply. This is not personal. It is politics



Well, I guess you've achieved your goal then. But why play that game at a dating site? Genuinely curious.

Chazster's photo
Wed 05/04/11 08:33 PM


I don't see anybody's noses getting punched, here.

So, I'm rude, intolerant, "disingenuous", etc., Blah, blah, blah. Sue me.

Read back through all former exchanges and you will find that I have endured nothing but the most demeaning and offensive insults from your people. The shoe fits on both sides. As I said, nobody has the right to say anything they want and remain immune from push-back from others who have the same right.

I think you are way out of line



"Your people?" Really?
'Nuff said.


win?

boredinaz06's photo
Wed 05/04/11 08:36 PM

I don't see anybody's noses getting punched, here.

So, I'm rude, intolerant, "disingenuous", etc., Blah, blah, blah. Sue me.

Read back through all former exchanges and you will find that I have endured nothing but the most demeaning and offensive insults from your people. The shoe fits on both sides. As I said, nobody has the right to say anything they want and remain immune from push-back from others who have the same right.

I think you are way out of line



That's because you're wrong.

no photo
Wed 05/04/11 08:38 PM

"Your people?" Really?
'Nuff said.


win?
I don't know what this means

s1owhand's photo
Wed 05/04/11 09:08 PM



Actually for Americans the death of bin laden has made the world a worse place then before.

It is like the Hatfields and McCoys, it is now just their turn to strike.


This is hogwash. It is not the Hatfields and McCoys. It is religious
warfare and defense of freedom. Bin Laden was not killed for revenge.
Bin Laden was killed solely to further cripple his genocidal religiously
bigoted and inhumane terrorist organization Al-Qaida.

And the dismantling of such an organization is a worthy, noble
and just cause.

drinker

Those who would let Bin Laden live and flourish should live in a
repressive misogynistic society for a while.




They believe their cause is just as righteous as you feel ours is.

Making us on level ground with righteousness..

Making the analogy I have given a fair and accurate analysis.

JUST LIKE A CHESS GAME, THE BELL HAS BEEN RUNG, NOW IT IS THEIR TURN TO RETALIATE. Check mate doesn't happen in this world until we are all dead.


laugh

Oh that's priceless. Of course the insane think you are the one
who is nuts. It doesn't make the sky green!

laugh

The terrorists *think* their cause of Islamacizing the world is
just...and it is OK to slaughter innocent people just because they
aren't Muslim!

laugh

Hitler thought he should exterminate everyone who wasn't part of
"the master race"...

laugh

This is not Tit-for-Tat. These are not EQUIVALENT choices!!

laugh

There is an obvious difference between the cause of Al-Qaida
and the cause of religious freedom and tolerance.

So Choose. Be for the religious extremist who kills people based on
their religious beliefs, Be for religious tolerance where people
fight for the right to worship as they please or be indifferent.

These are your only choices.

But you must recognize these are NOT equivalent choices and that
choosing to be indifferent is to condone the terrorist behavior.

laugh

slaphead

C'mon Now!

laugh

s1owhand's photo
Wed 05/04/11 09:16 PM
I WIN!

:banana:

laugh