Yes, and it was unanimous.

are those the same voices that told you make the post below

Of course it would have to roll over for jeannie. It just wouldn be as funny any other way..

I don't recall ever meeting an atheist (edit: in person) who insists there is no God.

(But I have met atheists who insist that high standards of evidence have not been met. There is a difference.)

Edit: Well, we have Funches...but I think Funches exaggerates his claims for a semi-trolling effect.

There's nothing "semi" about Funches's trolling.

I told a Christian woman that I was an atheist once and she seemed shocked. She said "How can you say that? How can you not see that there is a God? Look at all of the beauty in the world and the miracle of birth! How can you deny God?

I said, "I'm not denying the existence of reality, I just don't believe in your version of God. But if you are telling me that this universe is God, then okay, God exists. But don't start making rules and reciting commandments about how I am supposed to live or how I need to accept Jesus Christ as my savior to be saved."

yes "massagetrade"...it's funny how self-righteous Christians have a tendecy to troll from the Christian's single forum made especially for them and come into this forum to call those that disagree with their views trolls

good thing heretics are now called Trolls....being a heretic will get you burned at the stake ...or perhaps nailed to a cross

some would say it was Karma

I was not aware that the threads roll over automatically.

well I guess that ends our debate on whether you are The Creator or not ....The Creator being omniscient would have been aware

Hey, I'm not singling you out as a sometimes-troll - a lot of people on here exaggerate, overstate, use sarcasm or other methods to encourage others to debate with them. And I'm not trying to discredit you in any way by commenting on this - whenever you make a valid argument, it stands on its own merits.

I'm was singling you out only as an atheist who might (and my sincere apologies if I'm wrong!) state that there definitely, absolutely is no God. Most atheist I know say they don't believe in God, they see insufficient evidence for God, the idea of God is unnecessary, and some may even say that the belief is foolish, but they would not absolutely assert the definitive non-existence of God.

massagetrade...I would agree with you if you can find one post where I claimed to be an Atheist.....if you can not find any posts then perhaps you should think twice before you start(as you said)) "singling" people out as being an Atheist....

but the cool part about what you are doing is that you are providing lessons on how and why witch burnings would take place ....

but anyway what I stated was I have undisputable evidence that God exist as a character in a book and that no one including yourself have provided any undisputable evidence that the character called God exist beyond that book .....

so in other words I would never claim that God doesn't exist...because he does exist as a character in a book...I learned that parable trick from Jesus

Evidence is not needed. The ONLY one that can prove God to you is yourself. The only one that can prove anything to you is yourself. I can not prove to you planet Earth has gravity less you test it for yourself. I can not prove to you water freezes as a certain degree less you test it yourself. Again, no one can prove to you God is real and or what God is the true God but yourself.

And besides that, no one is here to prove anything to anyone. This is a discussion forum, purely for DISCUSSION. That would involve sharing of one's thoughts and beliefs on certain things, what ever may be the subject at the time. And again, no one can prove anything to you less YOU are willing to accept the evidence. We're for the enlightened discussion. NOTHING can be proven here. You can even prove the world is round here.

Cowboy...evidence is required that God exist beyond a book....it's just that you don't have any evidence..that's why it's called a "belief" ..

a belief needs no evidence beyond faith ...the truth does

You can not prove the world is round beyond a book.
You can not prove the world is covered by a lot of water without a book
You can not prove anything not immediately right in front of someone without a book. What does it being in a book have to do with anything?

I really thought you claimed to not believe in any Gods. My apologies. Of course, if God's existence as a character is the only reason you'd not claim that God doesn't exist, it seems likely you would deny the existence of a God as a reality.



Yep. Not likely to happen, either.

I think you guys are using the phrase 'beyond a book' in different ways.

Cowboy, I believe you are saying "you can't prove X without intermediary sources, or indirect evidence, such as one might find in a book".

I think Funches was saying 'you can't prove God exists as more than a fictional character in a book'

I could be wrong.

Cowboy...I said that God does exist in a book...but there is no undisputable evidence that God exist beyond that book...you said that no evidence is needed...and of course without any evidence is why it can only be nothing more than a "belief" in God

That is same thing I was saying as well.

You can not prove the world is round beyond a book.
You can not prove the world is covered by a lot of water beyond a book

Same thing as him saying I can not prove God beyond a book. Nothing but something immediately seen/felt can be proven beyond a book.

You can not prove to me these things definitely without any form of doubt beyond a book. You can not positively show these things beyond a book.