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The story of Job is an example of faith. Satan said Job would not worship him if he wasn't protected by Yahweh. Yahweh has said all through the scriptures that he does not want a uncheerful believer who is out for thier own gain.. But 1 who is out to do right and follows Yahweh's way. Job did not understand what was happening and his friends turned aginst him telling him how Yahweh was displining him because he had done wrong.. Job did not know but knew if he kept true all would be ok.. Satan has not won anything. How can satan win anything when Yahweh knows the beginning from the end ie Prophecy and satan for his actions is banned from Yahweh's presence hence his childrens presence in the Millinium and then after for good. Job proved many things.. That you see who your real friends are when everything goes wrong in your life. who stands by you is your real friends. How many of us have only learned that lesson through our own tribulations? most I would say. Job is a great example as is Yahshua of believing with real faith and you may not know the out come but what you do know is Yahweh is in control and he teaches us and makes us stronger through tribulations.. Matt 5:10-12 10 Blessed are those who are persecuted for righteousness' sake, For theirs is the kingdom of heaven. 11 "Blessed are you when they revile and persecute you, and say all kinds of evil against you falsely for My sake. 12 Rejoice and be exceedingly glad, for great is your reward in heaven, for so they persecuted the prophets who were before you. NKJV Rejoice when you are tried with tribulation if you really believe because the final outcome will make you stronger and everyone around you as they see your faith in action.. Things words can never convey. Leading by example is most definately a attribute of Yahweh and his children. Job is not a hard story to understand but many want to twist it for thier own agenda which we see quite frequently these days as is also Prphecied so stay strong and Yahweh will teach you and guide you to places beyond your wildest dreams. That whats been happenoing to me in the last few months after almost 10 years of people saying all kinds of evil against me. Yahweh sustained me where no other comfort was thier. he has lead me to a place in the Indian language means Heavens valley or the Valley of Heaven brought my children back to me in ways that only he could do.. nothing I said could do anything but believing Yahweh brought me through and I am so much stronger for it and learned so much from it.. like it says in Rev 12 once the birthing pains are gone you rejoice over the new life before you.. Blessings of Shalom..Miles Oh Mr. Miles BRAVO!  You got it baby! That was precisely the moral that the author of this story expected us to come away with. That was the goal of the author of this story without a doubt! You pass reading comprehension with flying colors!  That's exactly what you're supposed to come away from this story with. As a moral story it's great!  But as a supposed verbatim description of a true interaction between an all-wise God and a supposed fallen angel it fails miserably. First off, why is God taking up "bets" with Satan? What does God have to PROVE to Satan?  Secondly, what would an all-knowing God need to TEST Job for? And all-knowing God who already knows what's in the hearts of men? There would be no reason for God to test Job. Just as YOU yourself has suggested: Satan has not won anything. How can satan win anything when Yahweh knows the beginning from the end If Yahweh knows the beginning from the end, then Yahweh would know the outcome of Job's actions. And like I say, what would Yahwah have to PROVE to Satan? Yahwah should have no need to prove anything to Satan. You claim that Satan has not won anything. Perhaps not within the story of Job. No, not there. Satan LOST that particular bet. But in the overall picture, if this is a game or "war" between Satan and God, to see who can win over the most souls, then Satan is clearly the BIG WINNER in the BIG PICTURE. The stories spell this out in no uncertain terms. In the Old Testament every thought of every man had supposedly turned "evil" (i.e. In Satan's favor!) Even Noah and his family were supposedly only "saved" by the GRACE of God, certainly not because they were perfectly sinless! The God drowned out the vast majority of the human population as sinners! Well, that would have been the same as God pushing all the poker chips over to Satan. Human souls are the poker chips in this game between Satan and God. The whole BET or "War" is over who's going to win souls. Then later in the New Testament, Jesus proclaims that narrow is the gate and straight is the way to the kingdom of God, and few there will be that find it. Well, if only FEW make it to heaven, that can only mean that the vast majority go over to Satan's side of the poker table! So even Jesus proclaims that Satan wins the vast majority of souls in this game. Perhaps Satan was unable to win over Job. But evidently that was a very rare loss for Satan in the larger biblical picture. ~~~~~ But like you Miles, I most certainly DO understand the moral that the author of Job expected us to come away with. Whoever wrote that story probably figured that no one would question the technical details of the "gods" involved. The idea was to just focus on being Job! And to recognize that if you keep the faith you'll ultimately come out on top in the end. That was indeed the MORAL of the story. I most certainly agree with you on that point Miles.  It was just a very poorly written story in terms of the fables about a "God" and a "Devil" is all.  Narow is the way and few thier be that find it is way more than thats all thier will be in heaven. we are talking about Royalty.. those who serve Yahweh with all thier Heart mind and soul. Rev 7 speaks of only 144,000.. these are the chosen. Then after the 144,000 we see a great crowd who gives thier life for the faith. Just as Abraham was promiced as the stars of heaven would be his descendents. thats why we see 2 seperate people in Rev 14 and 15.. ones Royalty and the others are priests/teachers to come. just as Peter described and also Exodus. Thier will be a day when all will know Yahweh's power but they will still deny him because they hate him and will not accept him. Yet Yahweh in the 2nd coming of Yahshua allows over 1 billion people to survive who do not believe. 1/5 of the worlds population while satan is chained for a 1000 years. This is not satan winning.. he said he will rise to the heavens and be like Yahweh yet he has not been cast down to earth yet and Job points this out as satan goes before the thrown. These examples of mere himans who have never seen Yahweh and lived because of his brightness as we also see in Zech 14 when Yahshua returns.. many believe this is a nuclear holocost but scripture does not bear that at all as people are living in egypt and coming up to the Feast of Tabernacles each year. nothing speaks of Yahshua doing anything but splitting mount olive I believe in 2. The 2 branches. Zech 14:12 12 And this shall be the plague with which Yahweh will strike all the people who fought against Jerusalem: Their flesh shall dissolve while they stand on their feet, Their eyes shall dissolve in their sockets, And their tongues shall dissolve in their mouths. NKJV Zech 14:16-19 And it shall come to pass that everyone who is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall go up from year to year to worship the King, Yahweh of hosts, and to keep the Feast of Tabernacles. 17 And it shall be that whichever of the families of the earth do not come up to Jerusalem to worship the King, Yahweh of hosts, on them there will be no rain. 18 If the family of Egypt will not come up and enter in, they shall have no rain; they shall receive the plague with which Yahweh strikes the nations who do not come up to keep the Feast of Tabernacles. 19 This shall be the punishment of Egypt and the punishment of all the nations that do not come up to keep the Feast of Tabernacles. NKJV Zech 14:3-4 3 Then Yahweh will go forth And fight against those nations, As He fights in the day of battle. 4 And in that day His feet will stand on the Mount of Olives, Which faces Jerusalem on the east. And the Mount of Olives shall be split in two, From east to west, Making a very large valley; Half of the mountain shall move toward the north And half of it toward the south. NKJV All this is a learning period. All prophets great men who had a Heart for Yahweh understood his power. Death was seen and still is as a departing to a better exsistance.. Thats where True Shalom comes in.. when you are not here to save souls. Yahweh uses your Faith and Obedience to change mens hearts. Thats the great story of Job. Job seems to have lived in the beginning when Yahshua said in the beginning it was not so. when men lived to be a very old age. Job lived sometime around the time of Abraham. When great promices of a far off land and kingdom to thier offspring would come about. Like it says Many Pprophets desired to see a glimpse of Yahshua's day and ours today. They understood the great wisdom of Yahweh in being fair. we will not all die but we will all be changed. Like the thief on the stake who asked to be in Yahshua's kingdom to come. Yahshua is the 1st born of the dead yet he told him today he would be with him in paradice. Was the thief the 1st born of the dead? They understood the Psalms. in the grave you know nothing.. It is like sleep.. no knowledge of time.no one in hell. when we sleep when we wake up we do not realize how long we slept. its a glimpsing sec of time. same with death. so see these people like Yahshua knew and understood the birthing pains here are really short compared to eternity. for when we wake up it wil either be to life or death he says choose life. Could it be we would not be here if Satan and his friends would not of rebelled? They were around before the earth was void and without form.. who do you think madfe it that away? But they were created whole before Yahweh and man was created after them to learn from his mistakes. Satan believed he could trick Yahshua into worshipping him or breaking his fathers will over food. Esau gave up his birthright over food. Satan has a big head he is like the world.. as we climb the ladder we step on anyones toes to get what we want. Just an example that Satan pursues the righteous not the sinner and Yahshua went to the sinner not the righteous. The exact oppisite. The devil made me do it... its more like I am a selfish brat and I want it and I want it NOW come hell or high water. Yahweh is building a vast people for his name who has been through trials and tribulations who will understand right from wrong. Not a child having a temper tandrom like satan. we will be higher than the angels. why? because we believe and learned the hard way without the evidence you require. Faith that all will be alright. Shalom. peace in your heart that u are just a soldier willing to do whats right no need for a that a boy for us to do it. no golden star put on the refrigerator.. we do it because we love him and we know he loves us and whatever happens happens ours is to be examples just as Yahshua was/is. Job was a shining example and I do believe he lived and the story is true. The sons of Yahweh appearing before him in Job.. If we know the scri[ptures thats at the Harvest the Feast of Tabernacles that pictures the Millinium when the calf and the lion will eat straw together and a child wil lead them. Thats why they appeared before Yahweh just like Zech 14 i spoke of earlier that everyone would come.. See Satan went where the Righteous was.. he still appears before Yahweh but we do not see him understanding his fate until Rev 12.. when he is cast out of Heaven and he is ticked. what does he immediately do? he goes after the chosen who Yahweh helps and hides as even Duet 32 speaks of. Yahweh is in control.. Satan just is a spoiled brat who wants his way and will kick and scream till the end but he does not even understand untill rev 12 then he has to take it out on some one. but see he does he goes after the 2 olive branches of Rev 11 and kills them and the great crowd of Rev 7 is seen in the Remnant of Rev 12 of the chosen.. the ones who hear the word and just are not quite sure what to think.. but when this time period hits they will come out of the woodwork because the whole world sees the 2 witnesses rise in Rev 11 who Zech prophecies they have a flying scroll which to measure the people. The Torah, the word of Yahweh, Yahshua our Messiah. who no test or childish thing will decieve because they are at peace with themselves and others and if they die well thats ok too.. Yahweh's plan will go foward and they will awake to Yahshua. What a Glorious ending knowing when you wake our Messiah and his Kingdom is at hand. Great Blessing our within the Truths of the Scriptures to you and yours now and in the Kingdom to come.. Blessings Abra...Miles do you have a book you have authored? that seems a very in depth and enlightening interpretation of scripture... |
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The story of Job is an example of faith. Satan said Job would not worship him if he wasn't protected by Yahweh. Yahweh has said all through the scriptures that he does not want a uncheerful believer who is out for thier own gain.. But 1 who is out to do right and follows Yahweh's way. Job did not understand what was happening and his friends turned aginst him telling him how Yahweh was displining him because he had done wrong.. Job did not know but knew if he kept true all would be ok.. Satan has not won anything. How can satan win anything when Yahweh knows the beginning from the end ie Prophecy and satan for his actions is banned from Yahweh's presence hence his childrens presence in the Millinium and then after for good. Job proved many things.. That you see who your real friends are when everything goes wrong in your life. who stands by you is your real friends. How many of us have only learned that lesson through our own tribulations? most I would say. Job is a great example as is Yahshua of believing with real faith and you may not know the out come but what you do know is Yahweh is in control and he teaches us and makes us stronger through tribulations.. Matt 5:10-12 10 Blessed are those who are persecuted for righteousness' sake, For theirs is the kingdom of heaven. 11 "Blessed are you when they revile and persecute you, and say all kinds of evil against you falsely for My sake. 12 Rejoice and be exceedingly glad, for great is your reward in heaven, for so they persecuted the prophets who were before you. NKJV Rejoice when you are tried with tribulation if you really believe because the final outcome will make you stronger and everyone around you as they see your faith in action.. Things words can never convey. Leading by example is most definately a attribute of Yahweh and his children. Job is not a hard story to understand but many want to twist it for thier own agenda which we see quite frequently these days as is also Prphecied so stay strong and Yahweh will teach you and guide you to places beyond your wildest dreams. That whats been happenoing to me in the last few months after almost 10 years of people saying all kinds of evil against me. Yahweh sustained me where no other comfort was thier. he has lead me to a place in the Indian language means Heavens valley or the Valley of Heaven brought my children back to me in ways that only he could do.. nothing I said could do anything but believing Yahweh brought me through and I am so much stronger for it and learned so much from it.. like it says in Rev 12 once the birthing pains are gone you rejoice over the new life before you.. Blessings of Shalom..Miles Oh Mr. Miles BRAVO! You got it baby! That was precisely the moral that the author of this story expected us to come away with. That was the goal of the author of this story without a doubt! You pass reading comprehension with flying colors! That's exactly what you're supposed to come away from this story with. As a moral story it's great! But as a supposed verbatim description of a true interaction between an all-wise God and a supposed fallen angel it fails miserably. First off, why is God taking up "bets" with Satan? What does God have to PROVE to Satan? Secondly, what would an all-knowing God need to TEST Job for? And all-knowing God who already knows what's in the hearts of men? There would be no reason for God to test Job. Just as YOU yourself has suggested: Satan has not won anything. How can satan win anything when Yahweh knows the beginning from the end If Yahweh knows the beginning from the end, then Yahweh would know the outcome of Job's actions. And like I say, what would Yahwah have to PROVE to Satan? Yahwah should have no need to prove anything to Satan. You claim that Satan has not won anything. Perhaps not within the story of Job. No, not there. Satan LOST that particular bet. But in the overall picture, if this is a game or "war" between Satan and God, to see who can win over the most souls, then Satan is clearly the BIG WINNER in the BIG PICTURE. The stories spell this out in no uncertain terms. In the Old Testament every thought of every man had supposedly turned "evil" (i.e. In Satan's favor!) Even Noah and his family were supposedly only "saved" by the GRACE of God, certainly not because they were perfectly sinless! The God drowned out the vast majority of the human population as sinners! Well, that would have been the same as God pushing all the poker chips over to Satan. Human souls are the poker chips in this game between Satan and God. The whole BET or "War" is over who's going to win souls. Then later in the New Testament, Jesus proclaims that narrow is the gate and straight is the way to the kingdom of God, and few there will be that find it. Well, if only FEW make it to heaven, that can only mean that the vast majority go over to Satan's side of the poker table! So even Jesus proclaims that Satan wins the vast majority of souls in this game. Perhaps Satan was unable to win over Job. But evidently that was a very rare loss for Satan in the larger biblical picture. ~~~~~ But like you Miles, I most certainly DO understand the moral that the author of Job expected us to come away with. Whoever wrote that story probably figured that no one would question the technical details of the "gods" involved. The idea was to just focus on being Job! And to recognize that if you keep the faith you'll ultimately come out on top in the end. That was indeed the MORAL of the story. I most certainly agree with you on that point Miles. It was just a very poorly written story in terms of the fables about a "God" and a "Devil" is all. Narow is the way and few thier be that find it is way more than thats all thier will be in heaven. we are talking about Royalty.. those who serve Yahweh with all thier Heart mind and soul. Rev 7 speaks of only 144,000.. these are the chosen. Then after the 144,000 we see a great crowd who gives thier life for the faith. Just as Abraham was promiced as the stars of heaven would be his descendents. thats why we see 2 seperate people in Rev 14 and 15.. ones Royalty and the others are priests/teachers to come. just as Peter described and also Exodus. Thier will be a day when all will know Yahweh's power but they will still deny him because they hate him and will not accept him. Yet Yahweh in the 2nd coming of Yahshua allows over 1 billion people to survive who do not believe. 1/5 of the worlds population while satan is chained for a 1000 years. This is not satan winning.. he said he will rise to the heavens and be like Yahweh yet he has not been cast down to earth yet and Job points this out as satan goes before the thrown. These examples of mere himans who have never seen Yahweh and lived because of his brightness as we also see in Zech 14 when Yahshua returns.. many believe this is a nuclear holocost but scripture does not bear that at all as people are living in egypt and coming up to the Feast of Tabernacles each year. nothing speaks of Yahshua doing anything but splitting mount olive I believe in 2. The 2 branches. Zech 14:12 12 And this shall be the plague with which Yahweh will strike all the people who fought against Jerusalem: Their flesh shall dissolve while they stand on their feet, Their eyes shall dissolve in their sockets, And their tongues shall dissolve in their mouths. NKJV Zech 14:16-19 And it shall come to pass that everyone who is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall go up from year to year to worship the King, Yahweh of hosts, and to keep the Feast of Tabernacles. 17 And it shall be that whichever of the families of the earth do not come up to Jerusalem to worship the King, Yahweh of hosts, on them there will be no rain. 18 If the family of Egypt will not come up and enter in, they shall have no rain; they shall receive the plague with which Yahweh strikes the nations who do not come up to keep the Feast of Tabernacles. 19 This shall be the punishment of Egypt and the punishment of all the nations that do not come up to keep the Feast of Tabernacles. NKJV Zech 14:3-4 3 Then Yahweh will go forth And fight against those nations, As He fights in the day of battle. 4 And in that day His feet will stand on the Mount of Olives, Which faces Jerusalem on the east. And the Mount of Olives shall be split in two, From east to west, Making a very large valley; Half of the mountain shall move toward the north And half of it toward the south. NKJV All this is a learning period. All prophets great men who had a Heart for Yahweh understood his power. Death was seen and still is as a departing to a better exsistance.. Thats where True Shalom comes in.. when you are not here to save souls. Yahweh uses your Faith and Obedience to change mens hearts. Thats the great story of Job. Job seems to have lived in the beginning when Yahshua said in the beginning it was not so. when men lived to be a very old age. Job lived sometime around the time of Abraham. When great promices of a far off land and kingdom to thier offspring would come about. Like it says Many Pprophets desired to see a glimpse of Yahshua's day and ours today. They understood the great wisdom of Yahweh in being fair. we will not all die but we will all be changed. Like the thief on the stake who asked to be in Yahshua's kingdom to come. Yahshua is the 1st born of the dead yet he told him today he would be with him in paradice. Was the thief the 1st born of the dead? They understood the Psalms. in the grave you know nothing.. It is like sleep.. no knowledge of time.no one in hell. when we sleep when we wake up we do not realize how long we slept. its a glimpsing sec of time. same with death. so see these people like Yahshua knew and understood the birthing pains here are really short compared to eternity. for when we wake up it wil either be to life or death he says choose life. Could it be we would not be here if Satan and his friends would not of rebelled? They were around before the earth was void and without form.. who do you think madfe it that away? But they were created whole before Yahweh and man was created after them to learn from his mistakes. Satan believed he could trick Yahshua into worshipping him or breaking his fathers will over food. Esau gave up his birthright over food. Satan has a big head he is like the world.. as we climb the ladder we step on anyones toes to get what we want. Just an example that Satan pursues the righteous not the sinner and Yahshua went to the sinner not the righteous. The exact oppisite. The devil made me do it... its more like I am a selfish brat and I want it and I want it NOW come hell or high water. Yahweh is building a vast people for his name who has been through trials and tribulations who will understand right from wrong. Not a child having a temper tandrom like satan. we will be higher than the angels. why? because we believe and learned the hard way without the evidence you require. Faith that all will be alright. Shalom. peace in your heart that u are just a soldier willing to do whats right no need for a that a boy for us to do it. no golden star put on the refrigerator.. we do it because we love him and we know he loves us and whatever happens happens ours is to be examples just as Yahshua was/is. Job was a shining example and I do believe he lived and the story is true. The sons of Yahweh appearing before him in Job.. If we know the scri[ptures thats at the Harvest the Feast of Tabernacles that pictures the Millinium when the calf and the lion will eat straw together and a child wil lead them. Thats why they appeared before Yahweh just like Zech 14 i spoke of earlier that everyone would come.. See Satan went where the Righteous was.. he still appears before Yahweh but we do not see him understanding his fate until Rev 12.. when he is cast out of Heaven and he is ticked. what does he immediately do? he goes after the chosen who Yahweh helps and hides as even Duet 32 speaks of. Yahweh is in control.. Satan just is a spoiled brat who wants his way and will kick and scream till the end but he does not even understand untill rev 12 then he has to take it out on some one. but see he does he goes after the 2 olive branches of Rev 11 and kills them and the great crowd of Rev 7 is seen in the Remnant of Rev 12 of the chosen.. the ones who hear the word and just are not quite sure what to think.. but when this time period hits they will come out of the woodwork because the whole world sees the 2 witnesses rise in Rev 11 who Zech prophecies they have a flying scroll which to measure the people. The Torah, the word of Yahweh, Yahshua our Messiah. who no test or childish thing will decieve because they are at peace with themselves and others and if they die well thats ok too.. Yahweh's plan will go foward and they will awake to Yahshua. What a Glorious ending knowing when you wake our Messiah and his Kingdom is at hand. Great Blessing our within the Truths of the Scriptures to you and yours now and in the Kingdom to come.. Blessings Abra...Miles do you have a book you have authored? that seems a very in depth and enlightening interpretation of scripture... |
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The story of Job is an example of faith. Satan said Job would not worship him if he wasn't protected by Yahweh. Yahweh has said all through the scriptures that he does not want a uncheerful believer who is out for thier own gain.. But 1 who is out to do right and follows Yahweh's way. Job did not understand what was happening and his friends turned aginst him telling him how Yahweh was displining him because he had done wrong.. Job did not know but knew if he kept true all would be ok.. Satan has not won anything. How can satan win anything when Yahweh knows the beginning from the end ie Prophecy and satan for his actions is banned from Yahweh's presence hence his childrens presence in the Millinium and then after for good. Job proved many things.. That you see who your real friends are when everything goes wrong in your life. who stands by you is your real friends. How many of us have only learned that lesson through our own tribulations? most I would say. Job is a great example as is Yahshua of believing with real faith and you may not know the out come but what you do know is Yahweh is in control and he teaches us and makes us stronger through tribulations.. Matt 5:10-12 10 Blessed are those who are persecuted for righteousness' sake, For theirs is the kingdom of heaven. 11 "Blessed are you when they revile and persecute you, and say all kinds of evil against you falsely for My sake. 12 Rejoice and be exceedingly glad, for great is your reward in heaven, for so they persecuted the prophets who were before you. NKJV Rejoice when you are tried with tribulation if you really believe because the final outcome will make you stronger and everyone around you as they see your faith in action.. Things words can never convey. Leading by example is most definately a attribute of Yahweh and his children. Job is not a hard story to understand but many want to twist it for thier own agenda which we see quite frequently these days as is also Prphecied so stay strong and Yahweh will teach you and guide you to places beyond your wildest dreams. That whats been happenoing to me in the last few months after almost 10 years of people saying all kinds of evil against me. Yahweh sustained me where no other comfort was thier. he has lead me to a place in the Indian language means Heavens valley or the Valley of Heaven brought my children back to me in ways that only he could do.. nothing I said could do anything but believing Yahweh brought me through and I am so much stronger for it and learned so much from it.. like it says in Rev 12 once the birthing pains are gone you rejoice over the new life before you.. Blessings of Shalom..Miles Oh Mr. Miles BRAVO! You got it baby! That was precisely the moral that the author of this story expected us to come away with. That was the goal of the author of this story without a doubt! You pass reading comprehension with flying colors! That's exactly what you're supposed to come away from this story with. As a moral story it's great! But as a supposed verbatim description of a true interaction between an all-wise God and a supposed fallen angel it fails miserably. First off, why is God taking up "bets" with Satan? What does God have to PROVE to Satan? Secondly, what would an all-knowing God need to TEST Job for? And all-knowing God who already knows what's in the hearts of men? There would be no reason for God to test Job. Just as YOU yourself has suggested: Satan has not won anything. How can satan win anything when Yahweh knows the beginning from the end If Yahweh knows the beginning from the end, then Yahweh would know the outcome of Job's actions. And like I say, what would Yahwah have to PROVE to Satan? Yahwah should have no need to prove anything to Satan. You claim that Satan has not won anything. Perhaps not within the story of Job. No, not there. Satan LOST that particular bet. But in the overall picture, if this is a game or "war" between Satan and God, to see who can win over the most souls, then Satan is clearly the BIG WINNER in the BIG PICTURE. The stories spell this out in no uncertain terms. In the Old Testament every thought of every man had supposedly turned "evil" (i.e. In Satan's favor!) Even Noah and his family were supposedly only "saved" by the GRACE of God, certainly not because they were perfectly sinless! The God drowned out the vast majority of the human population as sinners! Well, that would have been the same as God pushing all the poker chips over to Satan. Human souls are the poker chips in this game between Satan and God. The whole BET or "War" is over who's going to win souls. Then later in the New Testament, Jesus proclaims that narrow is the gate and straight is the way to the kingdom of God, and few there will be that find it. Well, if only FEW make it to heaven, that can only mean that the vast majority go over to Satan's side of the poker table! So even Jesus proclaims that Satan wins the vast majority of souls in this game. Perhaps Satan was unable to win over Job. But evidently that was a very rare loss for Satan in the larger biblical picture. ~~~~~ But like you Miles, I most certainly DO understand the moral that the author of Job expected us to come away with. Whoever wrote that story probably figured that no one would question the technical details of the "gods" involved. The idea was to just focus on being Job! And to recognize that if you keep the faith you'll ultimately come out on top in the end. That was indeed the MORAL of the story. I most certainly agree with you on that point Miles. It was just a very poorly written story in terms of the fables about a "God" and a "Devil" is all. Narow is the way and few thier be that find it is way more than thats all thier will be in heaven. we are talking about Royalty.. those who serve Yahweh with all thier Heart mind and soul. Rev 7 speaks of only 144,000.. these are the chosen. Then after the 144,000 we see a great crowd who gives thier life for the faith. Just as Abraham was promiced as the stars of heaven would be his descendents. thats why we see 2 seperate people in Rev 14 and 15.. ones Royalty and the others are priests/teachers to come. just as Peter described and also Exodus. Thier will be a day when all will know Yahweh's power but they will still deny him because they hate him and will not accept him. Yet Yahweh in the 2nd coming of Yahshua allows over 1 billion people to survive who do not believe. 1/5 of the worlds population while satan is chained for a 1000 years. This is not satan winning.. he said he will rise to the heavens and be like Yahweh yet he has not been cast down to earth yet and Job points this out as satan goes before the thrown. These examples of mere himans who have never seen Yahweh and lived because of his brightness as we also see in Zech 14 when Yahshua returns.. many believe this is a nuclear holocost but scripture does not bear that at all as people are living in egypt and coming up to the Feast of Tabernacles each year. nothing speaks of Yahshua doing anything but splitting mount olive I believe in 2. The 2 branches. Zech 14:12 12 And this shall be the plague with which Yahweh will strike all the people who fought against Jerusalem: Their flesh shall dissolve while they stand on their feet, Their eyes shall dissolve in their sockets, And their tongues shall dissolve in their mouths. NKJV Zech 14:16-19 And it shall come to pass that everyone who is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall go up from year to year to worship the King, Yahweh of hosts, and to keep the Feast of Tabernacles. 17 And it shall be that whichever of the families of the earth do not come up to Jerusalem to worship the King, Yahweh of hosts, on them there will be no rain. 18 If the family of Egypt will not come up and enter in, they shall have no rain; they shall receive the plague with which Yahweh strikes the nations who do not come up to keep the Feast of Tabernacles. 19 This shall be the punishment of Egypt and the punishment of all the nations that do not come up to keep the Feast of Tabernacles. NKJV Zech 14:3-4 3 Then Yahweh will go forth And fight against those nations, As He fights in the day of battle. 4 And in that day His feet will stand on the Mount of Olives, Which faces Jerusalem on the east. And the Mount of Olives shall be split in two, From east to west, Making a very large valley; Half of the mountain shall move toward the north And half of it toward the south. NKJV All this is a learning period. All prophets great men who had a Heart for Yahweh understood his power. Death was seen and still is as a departing to a better exsistance.. Thats where True Shalom comes in.. when you are not here to save souls. Yahweh uses your Faith and Obedience to change mens hearts. Thats the great story of Job. Job seems to have lived in the beginning when Yahshua said in the beginning it was not so. when men lived to be a very old age. Job lived sometime around the time of Abraham. When great promices of a far off land and kingdom to thier offspring would come about. Like it says Many Pprophets desired to see a glimpse of Yahshua's day and ours today. They understood the great wisdom of Yahweh in being fair. we will not all die but we will all be changed. Like the thief on the stake who asked to be in Yahshua's kingdom to come. Yahshua is the 1st born of the dead yet he told him today he would be with him in paradice. Was the thief the 1st born of the dead? They understood the Psalms. in the grave you know nothing.. It is like sleep.. no knowledge of time.no one in hell. when we sleep when we wake up we do not realize how long we slept. its a glimpsing sec of time. same with death. so see these people like Yahshua knew and understood the birthing pains here are really short compared to eternity. for when we wake up it wil either be to life or death he says choose life. Could it be we would not be here if Satan and his friends would not of rebelled? They were around before the earth was void and without form.. who do you think madfe it that away? But they were created whole before Yahweh and man was created after them to learn from his mistakes. Satan believed he could trick Yahshua into worshipping him or breaking his fathers will over food. Esau gave up his birthright over food. Satan has a big head he is like the world.. as we climb the ladder we step on anyones toes to get what we want. Just an example that Satan pursues the righteous not the sinner and Yahshua went to the sinner not the righteous. The exact oppisite. The devil made me do it... its more like I am a selfish brat and I want it and I want it NOW come hell or high water. Yahweh is building a vast people for his name who has been through trials and tribulations who will understand right from wrong. Not a child having a temper tandrom like satan. we will be higher than the angels. why? because we believe and learned the hard way without the evidence you require. Faith that all will be alright. Shalom. peace in your heart that u are just a soldier willing to do whats right no need for a that a boy for us to do it. no golden star put on the refrigerator.. we do it because we love him and we know he loves us and whatever happens happens ours is to be examples just as Yahshua was/is. Job was a shining example and I do believe he lived and the story is true. The sons of Yahweh appearing before him in Job.. If we know the scri[ptures thats at the Harvest the Feast of Tabernacles that pictures the Millinium when the calf and the lion will eat straw together and a child wil lead them. Thats why they appeared before Yahweh just like Zech 14 i spoke of earlier that everyone would come.. See Satan went where the Righteous was.. he still appears before Yahweh but we do not see him understanding his fate until Rev 12.. when he is cast out of Heaven and he is ticked. what does he immediately do? he goes after the chosen who Yahweh helps and hides as even Duet 32 speaks of. Yahweh is in control.. Satan just is a spoiled brat who wants his way and will kick and scream till the end but he does not even understand untill rev 12 then he has to take it out on some one. but see he does he goes after the 2 olive branches of Rev 11 and kills them and the great crowd of Rev 7 is seen in the Remnant of Rev 12 of the chosen.. the ones who hear the word and just are not quite sure what to think.. but when this time period hits they will come out of the woodwork because the whole world sees the 2 witnesses rise in Rev 11 who Zech prophecies they have a flying scroll which to measure the people. The Torah, the word of Yahweh, Yahshua our Messiah. who no test or childish thing will decieve because they are at peace with themselves and others and if they die well thats ok too.. Yahweh's plan will go foward and they will awake to Yahshua. What a Glorious ending knowing when you wake our Messiah and his Kingdom is at hand. Great Blessing our within the Truths of the Scriptures to you and yours now and in the Kingdom to come.. Blessings Abra...Miles do you have a book you have authored? that seems a very in depth and enlightening interpretation of scripture... |
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wow,,mingle has hiccups
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George Carlin sums it up well: Think about it. Religion has actually convinced people that there’s an invisible man living in the sky who watches everything you do, every minute of every day. And the invisible man has a special list of ten things he does not want you to do. And if you do any of these ten things, he has a special place, full of fire and smoke and burning and torture and anguish, where he will send you to live and suffer and burn and choke and scream and cry forever and ever ’til the end of time! But He loves you. He loves you, and He needs money! He always needs money! He’s all-powerful, all-perfect, all-knowing, and all-wise, somehow just can’t handle money! Religion takes in billions of dollars, they pay no taxes, and they always need a little more. Now, you talk about a good ******** story. Holy ****!” George Carlin truly reveals the insanity of organized religion to be sure.
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George Carlin sums it up well: Think about it. Religion has actually convinced people that there’s an invisible man living in the sky who watches everything you do, every minute of every day. And the invisible man has a special list of ten things he does not want you to do. And if you do any of these ten things, he has a special place, full of fire and smoke and burning and torture and anguish, where he will send you to live and suffer and burn and choke and scream and cry forever and ever ’til the end of time! But He loves you. He loves you, and He needs money! He always needs money! He’s all-powerful, all-perfect, all-knowing, and all-wise, somehow just can’t handle money! Religion takes in billions of dollars, they pay no taxes, and they always need a little more. Now, you talk about a good ******** story. Holy ****!” George Carlin truly reveals the insanity of organized religion to be sure.
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Carlin also says
'CARLIN: "It shouldn't be a surprise that rich white men don't care about poor black people. Period." Read more: http://newsbusters.org/node/1149#ixzz1HSMEoeo1 If it requires a uniform, it’s a worthless endeavor The reason they call it the American Dream is because you have to be asleep to believe it. Read more: http://blogzarro.com/2007/05/100-greatest-george-carlin-quotes/ Carlin was a brilliant comedian, because he could express a small truth as such a BIG GENERALIZATION |
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wow,,mingle has hiccups Wow that is so wierd.. I did not do that. I have been busy with my GK's and it shows I did it. Thanks though MsHarmony.. I write as the spirit guides me thats why very seldom do you ever see me correct mistakes.. i did on this one as i saw i put the wrong chapter down. Maybe it's saying something with the 3 as I believe 3 is the number of APower.ie Yahweh as we see in Rev. 3 woes and 7 trumpets.. the 7 trumpets are the judgements of man and the 3 woes are much more powerful.. pretty cool though.. Blessings...Miles |
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massagetrade, which are your favorite verse over the years? I'm inclined to wait a bit longer, and see how much integrity and humility you bring to your communication with people here before I invest myself too readily in these conversations. I am curious what your purpose is in asking. |
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massagetrade, which are your favorite verse over the years? I'm inclined to wait a bit longer, and see how much integrity and humility you bring to your communication with people here before I invest myself too readily in these conversations. I am curious what your purpose is in asking. This is one of my favorites.. Because as John was said to of been bringing the EliYah message of Repentance as a forerunner to Yahshua's coming then .., so are we bringing this message that Yahshua brought.. He quoted from Isa 61 but did not finish the Prophecy when he returns then the rest is finished but we are to bring this message of Hope as Yahshua did as He began.. Blessings..Miles Luke 4:16-22 So He came to Nazareth, where He had been brought up. And as His custom was, He went into the synagogue on the Sabbath day, and stood up to read. 17 And He was handed the book of the prophet Isaiah. And when He had opened the book, He found the place where it was written: 18 "The Spirit of Yahweh is upon Me, Because He has anointed Me To preach the Evangel to the poor; He has sent Me to heal the brokenhearted, To proclaim liberty to the captives And recovery of sight to the blind, To set at liberty those who are oppressed; 19 To proclaim the acceptable year of Yahweh." 20 Then He closed the book, and gave it back to the attendant and sat down. And the eyes of all who were in the synagogue were fixed on Him. 21 And He began to say to them, "Today this Scripture is fulfilled in your hearing." 22 So all bore witness to Him, and marveled at the gracious words which proceeded out of His mouth. And they said,"Is this not Joseph's son?" NKJV Isa 61:1-2 "The Spirit of Yahweh Elohim is upon Me, Because Yahweh has anointed Me To preach good tidings to the poor; He has sent Me to heal the brokenhearted, To proclaim liberty to the captives, And the opening of the prison to those who are bound; 2 To proclaim the acceptable year of Yahweh, Isa 61:2-3 And the day of vengeance of our Elohim; ( This he left out for it is to come) To comfort all who mourn, 3 To console those who mourn in Zion, To give them beauty for ashes, The oil of joy for mourning, The garment of praise for the spirit of heaviness; That they may be called trees of righteousness, The planting of Yahweh, that He may be glorified." NKJV NKJV |
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So Pagan? Tell me about Osirus.. I believe the chr-stian stole her ways for Easter.. Blessings..Miles
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massagetrade, which are your favorite verse over the years? I'm inclined to wait a bit longer, and see how much integrity and humility you bring to your communication with people here before I invest myself too readily in these conversations. I am curious what your purpose is in asking. |
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since this is a Topic on Athiests chatting bringing thier own views of life forever. Meaning this is the way its always been.
I see quite often from tv shows people questioning the scriptures saying Show Me. 9/11 yea it's easy to says Nostadomus seen the future after the fact. Show me before it happens then i will believe. Wow sounds like Yahshua's day.. John 5:5-10 5 Now a certain man was there who had an infirmity thirty-eight years. 6 When Yahshua saw him lying there, and knew that he already had been in that condition a long time, He said to him, "Do you want to be made well?" 7 The sick man answered Him, "Sir, I have no man to put me into the pool when the water is stirred up; but while I am coming, another steps down before me." Jer 6:14 14 They have also healed the hurt of My people slightly, Saying, 'Peace, peace !' When there is no peace. NKJV Yea slightly it looks like healing in Israel. They all say though Israel should not be.. fairly common understing between them yet we look the other way.. Thier our friends but yet do we Trust? Like everyone knows something is not right but how do we handle it? Thier not Terrorists countries no more. They leave israel alone. What do we do if they say yea we want Peace and we all know something is not right. How do we stop.. Tough Question alot of pressure on Israel. We almost have to accept thier word. Yet we know they say this in thier hearts. Jer 8:11-12 Saying,'Peace, peace!' When there is no peace . 12 Were they ashamed when they had committed abomination? No! They were not at all ashamed, Have we forgottenn all the Suicide Bombers that no one blushed about who killed women and children just because they are not them? How many suicide bombers have they stopped through the years? I have no idea but i never heard much about them.. England and the Netherlands I did. Prophecy is in the scripture not us doing anything but relying on Faith that what is coming about Yahweh is showing the chosen Royalty singing in Rev 14 a song that seems like an old one. A real pearl.. a song from almost the beginning or maybe it is. But only the chosen will see it. Those who search the scriptures and learn them better than thier hand.. If Satans people have a mark in thier forehead or thier hand as followers of him.. How much greater is the Mark of Yahweh's children who just strive to be like Yahshua and in doing so are transformed to a peaceful day that begins Now. Its what they believe/know to be true. Thier sustainer of life. Instructions from old showing us the new things that must come to pass. Jer 8:11-12 Saying,'Peace, peace!' When there is no peace . 12 Were they ashamed when they had committed abomination? No! They were not at all ashamed, Nor did they know how to blush. NKJV Nor did they know how to blush. NKJV 8 Yahshua said to him, "Rise, take up your bed and walk." 9 And immediately the man was made well, took up his bed, and walked. And that day was the Sabbath. 10 The Jews therefore said to him who was cured, "It is the Sabbath; it is not lawful for you to carry your bed." NKJV He just cured a man crippled for 38 years.. not HalleluYah A miracle.. No these unbelievers said. 10 The Jews therefore said to him who was cured, "It is the Sabbath; it is not lawful for you to carry your bed." What negatism. Is that what you would say if someone told you through scriptures what was ready to come? Ignore it to luck? Probally they say but they do not mean. To them nothing will prove cause they have already made up thier minds.. No this is not so..It can not be.. and you say the believer has his mind closed.. Is it Berak time yet? But see if you know the scriptures like the back of your hand. and let me ask you.. How well do you know your hand? Then you will see the unbelievable. The Majectic cause and effect that the scriptures of Yahweh's word convey to the unconscience mind the thing is do you recongnize it and try to understand it. A head rush of information so true but how can it be? No man prepared me for this yet I am prepared..I have learned Yahweh's word. It sustains me in all time. Just listen to the melondy thats streaming through the Universe. A stringed instrument playing the sounds of a good life.. one where everything is equal. You are judged by who you are. Do you strive to be like Yahshua or not. The trying child how can you fault that? In the Antient of Days world, our life span is not but a speck in time. But the spirit if you accept it come and dwells with you. Bringing to rememberance what to say in every sitution that you need it to.. Just let it work in you Believing what you know to be right.. It's all up to you.. what do you want? Blessings through measure of the backdoor looking forward to a understanging just follow and life will be ok.. You reap what you sew. Hos 4:6 6 My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge. NKJV Its thier if we wanna look. But believing is hard. In the Middle East now is a turmoil thats signaling peace. Peace in a Abra I mean Arab ( sorry Abra ) Brotherhood. Thiers a Brotherhood thats profisied in the Middle East. Ps 83:5 5 For they have consulted together with one consent; They form a confederacy against You: NKJV We are told who these people are. Ps 83:6-9 6 The tents of Edom and the Ishmaelites;Moab and the Hagrites; 7 Gebal, Ammon, and Amalek;Philistia with the inhabitants of Tyre; 8 Assyria also has joined with them;They have helped the children of Lot.Selah 9 Deal with them as with Midian,As with Sisera,As with Jabin at the Brook Kishon, NKJV 10 nations will come to a Brotherhood... Just as we are seeing happen today. ISLAMABAD, Pakistan - At least three Arab countries have sent private messages to leaders of Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood movement, urging the group to embrace a "constructive dialogue" to pave the way for greater democracy in Egypt rather than use the opportunity to push the imposition of Islamic norms, senior diplomats from the Arab world have told CBS News. The move highlights a widespread nervousness over the Brotherhood eventually pushing for the introduction of Islamic provisions under a future government, following the end of President Hosni Mubarak's three-decade rule. "The underlying message is mainly for the Brotherhood to act like a reasonable political force, not necessarily anti-U.S. or anti-Israel but a contributor to a government which is a popular representative of the Egyptian people," a senior Arab diplomat from one of the three countries told CBS News on condition of anonymity. "If the Muslim Brotherhood becomes reckless, we will all have to live with the consequences. Even if [the Muslim Brotherhood] behave nicely till elections [in Egypt], the concern will really be over the long term future of the Muslim Brotherhood finally getting an opportunity to join mainstream politics," he said. Complete Coverage: Anger in the Arab World Queen Noor: Don't Exclude Muslim Brotherhood A second Arab diplomat from one of the three countries speaking on condition of anonymity told CBS News there were rapidly mounting concerns across Arab countries in the Middle East and North Africa "over the Brotherhood suddenly seeing itself as the flag bearer of an Islamic political rise in Egypt. [The Brotherhood] may then to seek to spread their ideology outside Egypt." The second diplomat said even if leaders of the Muslim Brotherhood were to guarantee restraining their movement in support of a smooth transition, "the big unknown is, in fact, how far do these people control their grass roots and how effective is their control. In other words, is there a danger of the grass roots which supports them, just going out of control?" The two diplomats confirmed that they knew of a third Arab country that also sent private messages to leaders of the Muslim Brotherhood, urging them to show restraint. But supporters of the Muslim Brotherhood said the movement will only seek to promote democracy in Egypt after Mubarak is forced out of power following several days of widespread public protests. "There is unfortunately a smear campaign going on right now about the Muslim Brotherhood. People must recognize that [the Brotherhood] are reasonable people," said Khurshid Ahmed, a prominent Pakistani scholar of Islamic affairs. Ahmed, with an active past as an Islamic politician, has supported the Muslim Brotherhood for years. "The Muslim Brotherhood was launched in 1928. It has been in crisis since 1954. Some of their top leaders were even hanged in Egypt. Yet this repression has not destroyed them, so you can see that the Muslim Brotherhood are and will remain key elements of Egypt's political mainstream," he said, adding, "I believe there is an effort underway to indulge in scaremongering by spreading the image of a group which will become very radical. So far, the Muslim Brotherhood has moved very cautiously. They only want to exercise their due political representation for their constituents." Western diplomats have said since the protests in Egypt kicked off it is too early to reach a final conclusion on the Muslim Brotherhood's future mood. In the past, the movement has sought the introduction of Islamic laws in Egypt. But equally, analysts of Egyptian affairs say the Brotherhood movement will most likely emerge as a member of a wider coalition where they will have to reconcile with the views of other more liberal political groups. .Tags:cbsegypt ,egypt ,Hosni Mubarak ,Muslim Brotherhood http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503543_162-20031123-503543.html Eygpt and Iran has always been the Great Empires of the Middle East who imprisoned the Israelites. They are looked at as Rising in a uproar and other Arab nations know what power they can wield and they wanna be friends. We see several uprisings at the same time with Eygpt spawning them.. Thats the power of thier people.. Like ours. IMO a Arab Confederecy is developing with Eygpt at the Helm. Prophecy speaks of Eygpt before and after Yahshua's return. They have a curse into the Millinium so thinking they are not a major player is missing it. Gen 1:1 - Rev 11:10 When they finish their testimony, the beast that ascends out of the bottomless pit will make war against them, overcome them, and kill them. 8 And their dead bodies will lie in the street of the great city which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt , where also our Lord was crucified. 9 Then those from the peoples, tribes, tongues, and nations will see their dead bodies three-and-a-half days, and not allow their dead bodies to be put into graves. 10 And those who dwell on the earth will rejoice over them, make merry, and send gifts to one another, because these two prophets tormented those who dwell on the earth. NKJV what is? spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt Spiritual? will rejoice over them, make merry, and send gifts to one another, because these two prophets tormented those who dwell on the earth. What do we already see in the Arab world when tradegy to another happens from thier belief? I am just saying as I see it from scripture thats all. They say friend and do we Trust these nations? Ps 83:2-4 2 For behold, Your enemies make a tumult; And those who hate You have lifted up their head. 3 They have taken crafty counsel against Your people, And consulted together against Your sheltered ones. 4 They have said, "Come, and let us cut them off from being a nation, That the name of Israel may be remembered no more." NKJV peace with Israel how could it ever be said amoung the Arab world with out an event to join them together with common leadership? The Brotherhood is forming who respect Iran. They are Arab Enemies but they still come before us. Brotherhood. They all say Ishmael the son of Abraham but not the son of Promice Isaac who Israel and we say has the Blessing of Yahweh. The Tree of Life before them.. Where paradice is. They have always been brothers. just rebelling brothers who see now as a coming together to have a united voice in the middle east. No Hamas Terror organism. Israel can be safe. paul was a Pharasee of Pharasees which the new believers feared. He was hard for them to accept.. I mean you hear of him using the Law of Scriptures to condemn them and he personally helped kill friends of thiers. Paul who before Yahshua blinded him had been thier at the Stoning of Stephen and Now he's one of us.. Pretty hard stuff to muster and then a Chosen Vessel that alot of the extended scriptures speak of his writings and dealings with in thier group. Stephen we get lost how much faith he had. alot was written about him and Saul ( paul) ( starteng in Acts 6) might of been saying it or at least agreed to it.. Like why did they lay thier clothes at pauls feet.. seems like great respect for him from the stoning of Stephen. Acts 7:58 And the witnesses laid down their clothes at the feet of a young man named Saul. NKJV after they had just killed..what kind of Ritual is this? Acts 7:57-58 57 Then they cried out with a loud voice, stopped their ears, and ran at him with one accord; 58 and they cast him out of the city and stoned him. NKJV This was ordered or Blessed you might say by the High Priest the Killing of Stephen.. what caused this? blasphamy is the only thing you hold your ears for.. You can't even have the thought enter your mind its so bad. Thats how they condemned Yahshua for also. Gen 1:1 - Luke 22:71 As soon as it was day, the elders of the people, both chief priests and scribes, came together and led Him into their council, saying, 67 "If You are the Messiah, tell us." But He said to them, "If I tell you, you will by no means believe. 68 And if I also ask you, you will by no means answer Me or let Me go. 69 Hereafter the Son of Man will sit on the right hand of the power of Elohim." 70 Then they all said, "Are You then the Son of Elohim?" So He said to them, "You rightly say that I am ." 71 And they said, "What further testimony do we need? For we have heard it ourselves from His own mouth." NKJV He said I Am.. who Moses heard in the fiery Bush. He is condemned for telling the Truth. Stephen Paul being thier actnowledge the I AM as Yahshua and was killed for it as They Held Thier Ears.. To Holy. Yahweh's name is not used today because we might not say it right and is to Holy to say except for the High Priest on the Day of Atonement which is a Day of being Delivered by Yahweh. forgiven and invited into His heart and being every year. Stephen understood and was oin the same spirit also as he died. Acts 7:59-60 59 And they stoned Stephen as he was calling on Elohim and saying, "Master Yahshua, receive my spirit." 60 Then he knelt down and cried out with a loud voice,"Master, do not charge them with this sin." And when he had said this, he fell asleep. NKJV He fell asleep not died but look at what he says forgive them and why did he have to die? He said the name Yahshua as master the I Am they stormed him and killed him over pronouncing a name. For proclaiming Yahweh is Salvation. He would not change a thing he was speaking the Truth of what he knew to be true no matter what. he had True Shalom.. We look at History and see people who did not want a fight but would not stand down when wrongs was being done they spoke the truth as they knew it and were sentenced to death for it. These heretics sects we hear from who.. The oppressor who wiped them out.. we are like a lamb led to slaughter by traditions. The Name is this now and if question you can say well he goes by many names.. well then is he Vishnu..no.. how about Budda well no then Allah? No it comes back to just JC when thier own ministers will say thats wrong that it was the same as Stephen spoke to his death but you have to believe in this name but it does not matter just as long as you say the sinners prayer. To JC that is. Yahweh well its right but wrong but he has many names. Confusion 101.. the author of it? The Arab world has a common ground we are the sons of Abraham. we want our inheritance and Israel must go. Peace has to come 1st yet we are so confused and have sent so many mixed marraiges when they for a Brotherhood how do we say no? Scary stuff and its happening before your eyes and they the modern arab was born 600 years after Yahshua during which the Arab people of today and the Jew and the believers of this time dwelt together in Harmony. Then after thier prophets death things started being tradionalized from days of old. one being stonings like stephens.. The Jews said he was Blaspeming Yahweh's name by actnowleging Yahshua as the I AM the son of Yahweh. The Arabs of the day do they still have a contract for writing a book or publishing a cartoon of allah with the penalty of stoning? Anyone who blaspemes the penalty is Death by stoning. Nothing new. Yahshua did not stone he said you all have forgotten who you are.. That you deserve death as much as anyone.. get over yourself. John 8:2-12 2 Now early in the morning He came again into the temple, and all the people came to Him; and He sat down and taught them. 3 Then the scribes and Pharisees brought to Him a woman caught in adultery. And when they had set her in the midst, 4 they said to Him, "Teacher, this woman was caught in adultery, in the very act. 5 Now Moses, in the law, commanded us that such should be stoned. But what do You say?" 6 This they said, testing Him, that they might have something of which to accuse Him. But Yahshua stooped down and wrote on the ground with His finger, as though He did not hear. 7 So when they continued asking Him, He raised Himself up and said to them, "He who is without sin among you, let him throw a stone at her first." 8 And again He stooped down and wrote on the ground. 9 Then those who heard it, being convicted by their conscience, went out one by one, beginning with the oldest even to the last. And Yahshua was left alone, and the woman standing in the midst. 10 When Yahshua had raised Himself up and saw no one but the woman, He said to her, "Woman, where are those accusers of yours? Has no one condemned you?" 11 She said, "No one, Master." And Yahshua said to her, "Neither do I condemn you; go and sin no more." 12 Then Yahshua spoke to them again, saying, "I am the light of the world. He who follows Me shall not walk in darkness, but have the light of life." NKJV He showed what at least part of the light is..Compassion as Yahshua showed the woman. This picture of the Pharasees really showing up again for less than 600 years when the Arabs of Mohammad stretched his writuings abd turned on thier nieghbor ever since calling him a embasol to this date who either needs to convert or die. But us in our infinate wisdom says ok we will accept your Peace accord and at the same time have a sour feeling in our stomach.. What have we done. The scriptures are not meant for the faint of Heart. They say things that if you follow and listen go against the Heart of the World. They show you things coming that feeling because you have studied and Yearned and now you see and you just are not quite sure what to do.. you can see it happening though.. To many signs at the same time to even keep up with. The roaring seas, whats the falling away? The Brotherhood of Muslims/Arabs as a conferecy which we will accept and they will cry peace is coming.. it will take years but we will see it.. watch closely.. Blessings of Knowledge that we will see and not Blind ourselves...Miles |
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seriously miles,, are you a student of theology?
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