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I blame fox news. However one cant sit on the sideline even if it is comfortable and cozy. If you think about it if the regresive right goes unchallenged america will turn back to the stone age. I recall rivers and streams so poluted they could not support life. I recall air so foul to breath you couldnt enjoy fresh air. You can thank the libs for environmental laws that say a creek isnt an open sewer for industrial waste. Thank a lib for banning DDT just years before our national bird became extinct. Republicans have been on the wrong side of every issue in this country and I have no idea how they havent been laughed off the political landscape. Tooooo funny. How can you blame a news channel? Are THEY making the laws? I understand your wanting fresh water and such, but what does this have to do with socialized health care and national security? I bet my azz tho that when W Bush gave us the refund check a few years back to "stimulate the economy", you were most likely the first in line at the bank to cash it in. Tho to me it didn't stimulate the economy too much, much in the same way that many of the Katrina "victims" given their free 2000.00 money hand-out from the government spent theirs at strip clubs and getting tattoos. |
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I could never understand the logic of somebody living one step away from the poor house railing against a government program designed to help them get better health care. Who's near the poorhouse here? Why the *** do I want socialized healthcare? Why should the unemployed pedophile be entitled to the same quality of care as myself, an employed tax-payer offering much more to society? And I have to subsidize HIS care with my tax dollars? Hell no. Not all of us are independently wealthy. There are many people in this country who are one paycheck away from losing their homes. And there are many who once were employed and rallied against any kind of so call socialist programs who were the first in line at the unemployment office once they lost their jobs. |
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There's a simple fix for that. Don't live beyond your means. Take ANY job that's offered. Join the migrants in the fields. Hell you're all bitching about them being here, go do their work then. Why have I never had a problem finding employment? Is it because I show up, make a good impression and take an interest in what I do? I've been laid off twice since I started working at 18. Twice. That's because the companies closed down. Yes I drew the unemployment my companies paid into, but I never asked for an extension like the whiners are doing now. I wasn't even unemployed long those 2 times. I showed interest at job interviews, didn't ask about benefits, and made a good impression on my job. How hard can it be?
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There's a simple fix for that. Don't live beyond your means. Take ANY job that's offered. Join the migrants in the fields. Hell you're all bitching about them being here, go do their work then. Why have I never had a problem finding employment? Is it because I show up, make a good impression and take an interest in what I do? I've been laid off twice since I started working at 18. Twice. That's because the companies closed down. Yes I drew the unemployment my companies paid into, but I never asked for an extension like the whiners are doing now. I wasn't even unemployed long those 2 times. I showed interest at job interviews, didn't ask about benefits, and made a good impression on my job. How hard can it be? how deserving you are,,,,,, |
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There's a simple fix for that. Don't live beyond your means. Take ANY job that's offered. Join the migrants in the fields. Hell you're all bitching about them being here, go do their work then. Why have I never had a problem finding employment? Is it because I show up, make a good impression and take an interest in what I do? I've been laid off twice since I started working at 18. Twice. That's because the companies closed down. Yes I drew the unemployment my companies paid into, but I never asked for an extension like the whiners are doing now. I wasn't even unemployed long those 2 times. I showed interest at job interviews, didn't ask about benefits, and made a good impression on my job. How hard can it be? Wish Libs thought that way. 
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Edited by
msharmony
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Sun 02/13/11 04:31 PM
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I wish americans (whatever label is imposed upon their beliefs) would understand ECONOMY AND MATH
EVEN IF EVERY JOB OPENING WERE FILLED, people would be left with no job as there is nearly a six to one ratio of those seeking work and work which is available add to that that those who apply to a job generally have skill sets in the range of THAT JOBS duties so they are less likely to be hired if they have no history in that field so , yes, even when people apply to mcdonalds, the most likely to be hired are those who are just out of school or who have already worked in fast food I guess people havent heard of the term 'overqualified', because so many people still seem to think its as easy as just 'getting' a job as opposed to 'qualifying' and 'competing' for a position which you have the skills and/or experience to fulfill Its a sickening attitude to me that thinks people are without work strictly out of laziness or less of a desire to work than others,,, |
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"Its a sickening attitude to me that thinks people are without work strictly out of laziness or less of a desire to work than others",,,
People scam the system. whether its a rich dude using every loophole in the book to lower his tax payment, to women that have kids just to collect more child support. the fact is we all know people that find ways to get something for nothing and if you say you don't you aren't being honest. |
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There's always going to be people who scam the system. Heck every place I've ever worked has had at least one of those.
That does not mean that others who really are needy should get left out in the cold. |
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Edited by
willing2
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Sun 02/13/11 05:33 PM
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Then, there are those who may have worked for 100.00 per hour and say, "Screw that, I ain't lowering myself. I'll just sit on the welfare. The Gov. won't cut my benis."
What could be done and DC look good for it would be to cut those who have been on the welfare two or more years. That would show an automatic drop in unemployment. Couple months later, drop the ones who have been on a year to two years. That would show another big drop in unemployment. Then, about 6 months later, end extensions. It would show that not many folks were affected by the end of extensions. DC wins and Libs are happy. |
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Edited by
msharmony
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Sun 02/13/11 05:41 PM
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"Its a sickening attitude to me that thinks people are without work strictly out of laziness or less of a desire to work than others",,, People scam the system. whether its a rich dude using every loophole in the book to lower his tax payment, to women that have kids just to collect more child support. the fact is we all know people that find ways to get something for nothing and if you say you don't you aren't being honest. of course, we all know people who do alot of things, but lumping all people in the same boat because of a dishonest few is nonsense |
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I really have a problem with personalizing these political issues. There are Wonderful, heroic, honest, industrious and ethical people who, for many reasons, are unable to find work. Msharmony was exactly right. With more unemployed people than there are jobs, it's hard to blame somebody for being unemployed. There are also criminal, lazy, undeserving and parasitic people who are without work . The same things are true among the uber-rich. Welfare is such a teensy percent of the udget that I just have to wonder about people who spend their angst and energy on this issue. Sometimes, I suspect that it is not snobbery, but rather envy.
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I really have a problem with personalizing these political issues. There are Wonderful, heroic, honest, industrious and ethical people who, for many reasons, are unable to find work. Msharmony was exactly right. With more unemployed people than there are jobs, it's hard to blame somebody for being unemployed. There are also criminal, lazy, undeserving and parasitic people who are without work . The same things are true among the uber-rich. Welfare is such a teensy percent of the udget that I just have to wonder about people who spend their angst and energy on this issue. Sometimes, I suspect that it is not snobbery, but rather envy. give that man a root beer,,, ( I dont drink alcohol, not because IM BETTER Than anyone , just because I dont prefer it)
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many of the Katrina "victims" given their free 2000.00 money hand-out from the government Isn't it a function of FEMA to give financial help to people who have lost their homes in all kinds of natural disaster. Is this something that you have always objected to or is it just Katrina? $2000 seems like peanuts to people who have lost everything.spent theirs at strip clubs and getting tattoos. When did this happen? Did it make it into the news? Were there any reports in the media?
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I agree MsHarmony, an opening link to a current event is fine, but from there why can't we just debate said opening link? It's monotonous to debate something when all that gets posted are more links just to prove a point. Why should I use someone elses opinion when I can clearly state my own? The good thing is you have the choice to debate the way you want and someone else has the same choice. If you choose just to give opinions, that's fine. If someone else chooses to discuss facts, that's also fine. 
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many of the Katrina "victims" given their free 2000.00 money hand-out from the government Isn't it a function of FEMA to give financial help to people who have lost their homes in all kinds of natural disaster. Is this something that you have always objected to or is it just Katrina? $2000 seems like peanuts to people who have lost everything.spent theirs at strip clubs and getting tattoos. When did this happen? Did it make it into the news? Were there any reports in the media? |
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many of the Katrina "victims" given their free 2000.00 money hand-out from the government Isn't it a function of FEMA to give financial help to people who have lost their homes in all kinds of natural disaster. Is this something that you have always objected to or is it just Katrina? $2000 seems like peanuts to people who have lost everything.spent theirs at strip clubs and getting tattoos. When did this happen? Did it make it into the news? Were there any reports in the media? Ah but there WAS evidence. There really was. Yes it was reported in the news. Why would I make something like that up? It was just, as your leftys say, a FACT. Our govt dropped the ball big time on Katrina. But yes a lot of the folks blew their money. It was theirs (our taxpayer money) to spend how they wished so there you go. |
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There's a simple fix for that. Don't live beyond your means. Take ANY job that's offered. Join the migrants in the fields. Hell you're all bitching about them being here, go do their work then. Why have I never had a problem finding employment? Is it because I show up, make a good impression and take an interest in what I do? I've been laid off twice since I started working at 18. Twice. That's because the companies closed down. Yes I drew the unemployment my companies paid into, but I never asked for an extension like the whiners are doing now. I wasn't even unemployed long those 2 times. I showed interest at job interviews, didn't ask about benefits, and made a good impression on my job. How hard can it be? how deserving you are,,,,,, Why thank you. I know I am. |
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I wish americans (whatever label is imposed upon their beliefs) would understand ECONOMY AND MATH EVEN IF EVERY JOB OPENING WERE FILLED, people would be left with no job as there is nearly a six to one ratio of those seeking work and work which is available add to that that those who apply to a job generally have skill sets in the range of THAT JOBS duties so they are less likely to be hired if they have no history in that field so , yes, even when people apply to mcdonalds, the most likely to be hired are those who are just out of school or who have already worked in fast food I guess people havent heard of the term 'overqualified', because so many people still seem to think its as easy as just 'getting' a job as opposed to 'qualifying' and 'competing' for a position which you have the skills and/or experience to fulfill Its a sickening attitude to me that thinks people are without work strictly out of laziness or less of a desire to work than others,,, We know what "overqualified" is. I applied for jobs which they told me I was overqualified for. Didn't stop me from going to the interview. Anyone who truly wants to work can. That's all there is to it. I'm sorry my attitude sickens you. But you must realize that with EOE you would stand a better chance of landing a state or fedxeral job before myself, even if I had more experience. That's why you can say what you're saying. Not being racist here msharmony, just being honest. |
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Oh well now if that ain't the pot calling the kettle black. Usually when we on the right try to debate you leftys all we get are links to what the liberal media has to say. Like no one is able to give their own opinion on matters, they just copy/paste a link and let someone else speak for them. In true liberal fashion. Debate away, Mister. You won't find one link in my replies. I'm quite capable of speaking for myself. As long as you're civil, I'm civil. Fire away. Likewise, I don't need the 'liberal media' (as if anyone really knows who or what that is) to do my thinking for me. There is a definite difference between raw news, editorializing and pure propaganda. Usually when somone who declares themselves to be from the Far Right, it's almost a given that they feel the use of 'Stop Thinking Here' words like 'lefty' and 'liberal' is all that's required to short circuit the debate without any debate-worthy facts being arranged in a well-thought out argument. You see it here all the time-- scroll back to the thread on Sharia Law and note the doctored up picture of Obama with his fingers in his ears. That's pure propaganda and it's often reinforced by its travelling companion, Yellow Journalism. And neither camp is above using it. -Kerry O. |
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Ah but there WAS evidence. There really was. Yes it was reported in the news. Thank you GG. I think this is the first time I have gotten an answer to my question. I googled "katrina $2000 strip clubs tattoos" and found a couple of references. I won't bother you with a link, because i know you won't use it. Here is the list of inappropriate purchases that were found by an audit according to the GAO.  Ironically, the article two down was one entitled "Both right, left pounce on GOP's strip-club spending Read more: Both right, left pounce on GOP's strip-club spending - The Denver Post http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_14782405#ixzz1DtoUkilA Read The Denver Post's Terms of Use of its content: http://www.denverpost.com/termsofuse" Just thought you might find that amusing. |
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