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Topic: The NO BIBLE ALLOWED Thread can you handle it?
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Tue 05/10/11 08:56 PM



Being Christian doesn't have any direct coalitions with the bible. Christian, root word is Christ. Christian means Christ like. Yes none of us could be as perfect as Jesus, don't get me wrong not saying that at all. But being a Christian we strive to be Christ like eg., Christian. Christian is more then just a word, it is action as well.




I would love it if that were true. I mean, I would love to meet some Christ-like Christians who did not quote Bible scriptures.




The main knowledge in the new testament came from our Christ, Jesus. So how would not quoting this stuff be Christ like? All in all our Christ said it first.


Then it is not true. Make up your mind.

You said, "Being Christian doesn't have any direct coalitions with the bible."





The bible itself has no direct coalition with Christianity. Didn't say the knowledge contained in the bible had no coalition. Doesn't matter if the knowledge was wrote in a book called bufelatimouse, groudily, or anything else you could think of. The bible itself is only as valuable as the paper it's written on. It's the knowledge in itself that is more valuable then any dollar that exists on Earth. The knowledge could be passed down orally, in notes, single handed writings, or again any number of possible ways and it would be still just as greatly valuable. If you notice the root word of Christianity is Christ, we aren't called biblarians or something like that lol. We do as our Christ told us to, not as specifically the "bible" tells us.

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Tue 05/10/11 08:58 PM












I was hoping we could have a conversation about what we actually think in a logical manner rather than quoting a verse from the Bible which the O.P. asked we not do.




I've already posted what I believe on the subject. Now I posted scripture to show that what Cowboy is saying is his personal beliefs, not mainstream Christianity. So now you know both my and Cowboy's feelings on sex and I hope it's clear that what Cowboy posted isn't Christian dogma, it's Cowboy's personal dogma.


The thing is, a Christian's beliefs, regardless of what they may be, all stem from the same source. That being the Bible, and they all try and justify it by that.


That's absolutely stupid, you don't really believe that, do you? I think Firefly is the best SciFi TV show of all time, did I get that from the Bible? Some Christians believe(d) in torturing themselves, that's not in the Bible. Some Christians think that non-whites are the result of a sexual union between Satan and Eve, that's not in the Bible. Please don't get so eager to disparage Christianity that you make absolutely stupid comments like this one.


Without the Bible how can you be a Christian? As stupid as it may sound, it's the crux of Christianity, which without it would not exist.


If you are talking about RELIGIOUS beliefs, the Bible SHOULD be the source of all of them for Christians. Just like the Quran and Hadith should be the source of all religious beliefs for Muslims. But that's not how it works. People are individuals and everyone has their own interpretations of scriptures, ignore some scriptures or are unaware of certain scriptures or beliefs.


Being Christian doesn't have any direct coalitions with the bible. Christian, root word is Christ. Christian means Christ like. Yes none of us could be as perfect as Jesus, don't get me wrong not saying that at all. But being a Christian we strive to be Christ like eg., Christian. Christian is more then just a word, it is action as well.

Knowledge of our Christ, Jesus could have come from your elders, the bum down the street, hearing two people talking and getting interested in it, talking with your friend, any number of sources. It doesn't HAVE to come from the bible.


No but the actual ideas START there, no matter where you may hear it from later.


Are you saying the book came before the man???





No, what I am saying is, if you didn't have the book telling you that Jesus existed, and other such things associated with Christianity, none of these beliefs you hold would exist.


Sure they would, they would be passed orally.


How do you know that? We're talking something that happened 2,000 years ago supposedly.

Even if it was, it wouldn't be anything like what the Bible is, with the changes made in the story as it got passed down.


And is why it is written down, to ensure no changes to the knowledge.

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Tue 05/10/11 09:01 PM













I was hoping we could have a conversation about what we actually think in a logical manner rather than quoting a verse from the Bible which the O.P. asked we not do.




I've already posted what I believe on the subject. Now I posted scripture to show that what Cowboy is saying is his personal beliefs, not mainstream Christianity. So now you know both my and Cowboy's feelings on sex and I hope it's clear that what Cowboy posted isn't Christian dogma, it's Cowboy's personal dogma.


The thing is, a Christian's beliefs, regardless of what they may be, all stem from the same source. That being the Bible, and they all try and justify it by that.


That's absolutely stupid, you don't really believe that, do you? I think Firefly is the best SciFi TV show of all time, did I get that from the Bible? Some Christians believe(d) in torturing themselves, that's not in the Bible. Some Christians think that non-whites are the result of a sexual union between Satan and Eve, that's not in the Bible. Please don't get so eager to disparage Christianity that you make absolutely stupid comments like this one.


Without the Bible how can you be a Christian? As stupid as it may sound, it's the crux of Christianity, which without it would not exist.


If you are talking about RELIGIOUS beliefs, the Bible SHOULD be the source of all of them for Christians. Just like the Quran and Hadith should be the source of all religious beliefs for Muslims. But that's not how it works. People are individuals and everyone has their own interpretations of scriptures, ignore some scriptures or are unaware of certain scriptures or beliefs.


Being Christian doesn't have any direct coalitions with the bible. Christian, root word is Christ. Christian means Christ like. Yes none of us could be as perfect as Jesus, don't get me wrong not saying that at all. But being a Christian we strive to be Christ like eg., Christian. Christian is more then just a word, it is action as well.

Knowledge of our Christ, Jesus could have come from your elders, the bum down the street, hearing two people talking and getting interested in it, talking with your friend, any number of sources. It doesn't HAVE to come from the bible.


No but the actual ideas START there, no matter where you may hear it from later.


Are you saying the book came before the man???





No, what I am saying is, if you didn't have the book telling you that Jesus existed, and other such things associated with Christianity, none of these beliefs you hold would exist.


Sure they would, they would be passed orally.


How do you know that? We're talking something that happened 2,000 years ago supposedly.

Even if it was, it wouldn't be anything like what the Bible is, with the changes made in the story as it got passed down.


And is why it is written down, to ensure no changes to the knowledge.


Nevermind the fact, that there's a million different translations, that doesn't count right?


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Tue 05/10/11 09:03 PM














I was hoping we could have a conversation about what we actually think in a logical manner rather than quoting a verse from the Bible which the O.P. asked we not do.




I've already posted what I believe on the subject. Now I posted scripture to show that what Cowboy is saying is his personal beliefs, not mainstream Christianity. So now you know both my and Cowboy's feelings on sex and I hope it's clear that what Cowboy posted isn't Christian dogma, it's Cowboy's personal dogma.


The thing is, a Christian's beliefs, regardless of what they may be, all stem from the same source. That being the Bible, and they all try and justify it by that.


That's absolutely stupid, you don't really believe that, do you? I think Firefly is the best SciFi TV show of all time, did I get that from the Bible? Some Christians believe(d) in torturing themselves, that's not in the Bible. Some Christians think that non-whites are the result of a sexual union between Satan and Eve, that's not in the Bible. Please don't get so eager to disparage Christianity that you make absolutely stupid comments like this one.


Without the Bible how can you be a Christian? As stupid as it may sound, it's the crux of Christianity, which without it would not exist.


If you are talking about RELIGIOUS beliefs, the Bible SHOULD be the source of all of them for Christians. Just like the Quran and Hadith should be the source of all religious beliefs for Muslims. But that's not how it works. People are individuals and everyone has their own interpretations of scriptures, ignore some scriptures or are unaware of certain scriptures or beliefs.


Being Christian doesn't have any direct coalitions with the bible. Christian, root word is Christ. Christian means Christ like. Yes none of us could be as perfect as Jesus, don't get me wrong not saying that at all. But being a Christian we strive to be Christ like eg., Christian. Christian is more then just a word, it is action as well.

Knowledge of our Christ, Jesus could have come from your elders, the bum down the street, hearing two people talking and getting interested in it, talking with your friend, any number of sources. It doesn't HAVE to come from the bible.


No but the actual ideas START there, no matter where you may hear it from later.


Are you saying the book came before the man???





No, what I am saying is, if you didn't have the book telling you that Jesus existed, and other such things associated with Christianity, none of these beliefs you hold would exist.


Sure they would, they would be passed orally.


How do you know that? We're talking something that happened 2,000 years ago supposedly.

Even if it was, it wouldn't be anything like what the Bible is, with the changes made in the story as it got passed down.


And is why it is written down, to ensure no changes to the knowledge.


Nevermind the fact, that there's a million different translations, that doesn't count right?




Count for what?

The sky is gorgeous.
The sky is beautiful.
The sky is very pretty.

All three different translations, all three same meaning. Just because something has been translated doesn't mean it's meaning has changed and or what it is saying.

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Tue 05/10/11 09:04 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Tue 05/10/11 09:06 PM
The bible itself has no direct coalition with Christianity. Didn't say the knowledge contained in the bible had no coalition. Doesn't matter if the knowledge was wrote in a book called bufelatimouse, groudily, or anything else you could think of. The bible itself is only as valuable as the paper it's written on. It's the knowledge in itself that is more valuable then any dollar that exists on Earth. The knowledge could be passed down orally, in notes, single handed writings, or again any number of possible ways and it would be still just as greatly valuable. If you notice the root word of Christianity is Christ, we aren't called biblarians or something like that lol. We do as our Christ told us to, not as specifically the "bible" tells us.


What you say might be true, but I doubt it.

I doubt very highly that if the Bible had not been canonized by the Roman Catholic Church and embraced by the Pope that Christianity would have ever been passed on word of mouth for 2000 years. If the Pope would have embraced some other religion, perhaps a pagan God, that is the religion and the God YOU would be worshiping today because you would have never heard of Jesus.

Anyone trying to pass down any other story of a savior or guru (and there were many back in the time of Jesus)would have been put to death.

That is how the Bible lasted for so long and that is the only reason you are a Christian today. Because of the Pope and the Catholic Church and the Bible.




CowboyGH's photo
Tue 05/10/11 09:07 PM

The bible itself has no direct coalition with Christianity. Didn't say the knowledge contained in the bible had no coalition. Doesn't matter if the knowledge was wrote in a book called bufelatimouse, groudily, or anything else you could think of. The bible itself is only as valuable as the paper it's written on. It's the knowledge in itself that is more valuable then any dollar that exists on Earth. The knowledge could be passed down orally, in notes, single handed writings, or again any number of possible ways and it would be still just as greatly valuable. If you notice the root word of Christianity is Christ, we aren't called biblarians or something like that lol. We do as our Christ told us to, not as specifically the "bible" tells us.


What you say might be true, but I doubt it.

I doubt very highly that if the Bible had not been canonized by the Roman Catholic Church and embraced by the Pope that Christianity would have ever in a million years been passed on word of mouth for 2000 years. If the Pope would have embraced some other religion, perhaps a pagan God, that is the religion and the God YOU would be worshiping today because you would have never heard of Jesus.

Anyone trying to pass down any other story of a savior or guru (and there were many back in the time of Jesus)would have been put to death.

That is how the Bible lasted for so long and that is the only reason you are a Christian today. Because of the Pope and the Catholic Church and the Bible.






Not true. I would have heard of it orally and God would have touched my heart the same way he did in this life time. I didn't "find" god in a book. God isn't in the book we call the Holy Bible. The bible is merely knowledge of God, but nevertheless God doesn't reside in that book.

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Tue 05/10/11 09:09 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Tue 05/10/11 09:10 PM


The bible itself has no direct coalition with Christianity. Didn't say the knowledge contained in the bible had no coalition. Doesn't matter if the knowledge was wrote in a book called bufelatimouse, groudily, or anything else you could think of. The bible itself is only as valuable as the paper it's written on. It's the knowledge in itself that is more valuable then any dollar that exists on Earth. The knowledge could be passed down orally, in notes, single handed writings, or again any number of possible ways and it would be still just as greatly valuable. If you notice the root word of Christianity is Christ, we aren't called biblarians or something like that lol. We do as our Christ told us to, not as specifically the "bible" tells us.


What you say might be true, but I doubt it.

I doubt very highly that if the Bible had not been canonized by the Roman Catholic Church and embraced by the Pope that Christianity would have ever in a million years been passed on word of mouth for 2000 years. If the Pope would have embraced some other religion, perhaps a pagan God, that is the religion and the God YOU would be worshiping today because you would have never heard of Jesus.

Anyone trying to pass down any other story of a savior or guru (and there were many back in the time of Jesus)would have been put to death.

That is how the Bible lasted for so long and that is the only reason you are a Christian today. Because of the Pope and the Catholic Church and the Bible.






Not true. I would have heard of it orally and God would have touched my heart the same way he did in this life time. I didn't "find" god in a book. God isn't in the book we call the Holy Bible. The bible is merely knowledge of God, but nevertheless God doesn't reside in that book.


I am not saying that "God" does not exist, or that we can't be touched by him. I am saying that "Jesus" could be a complete fiction, and the real true son of God could be someone you have never heard of.

There is no way you can know anything like that for certain. It would never have been passed down orally for that long.




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Tue 05/10/11 09:13 PM



The bible itself has no direct coalition with Christianity. Didn't say the knowledge contained in the bible had no coalition. Doesn't matter if the knowledge was wrote in a book called bufelatimouse, groudily, or anything else you could think of. The bible itself is only as valuable as the paper it's written on. It's the knowledge in itself that is more valuable then any dollar that exists on Earth. The knowledge could be passed down orally, in notes, single handed writings, or again any number of possible ways and it would be still just as greatly valuable. If you notice the root word of Christianity is Christ, we aren't called biblarians or something like that lol. We do as our Christ told us to, not as specifically the "bible" tells us.


What you say might be true, but I doubt it.

I doubt very highly that if the Bible had not been canonized by the Roman Catholic Church and embraced by the Pope that Christianity would have ever in a million years been passed on word of mouth for 2000 years. If the Pope would have embraced some other religion, perhaps a pagan God, that is the religion and the God YOU would be worshiping today because you would have never heard of Jesus.

Anyone trying to pass down any other story of a savior or guru (and there were many back in the time of Jesus)would have been put to death.

That is how the Bible lasted for so long and that is the only reason you are a Christian today. Because of the Pope and the Catholic Church and the Bible.






Not true. I would have heard of it orally and God would have touched my heart the same way he did in this life time. I didn't "find" god in a book. God isn't in the book we call the Holy Bible. The bible is merely knowledge of God, but nevertheless God doesn't reside in that book.


I am not saying that "God" does not exist, or that we can't be touched by him. I am saying that "Jesus" could be a complete fiction, and the real true son of God could be someone you have never heard of.

There is no way you can know anything like that for certain. It would never have been passed down orally for that long.






True, there is absolutely no solid evidence of spirituality anyways. It's ALL taken on faith, weather it's Christian, Buddhists, Catholics, or any other religion or spiritual belief. It's about what you put faith in, what you are willing to put faith in. Nothing besides the immediate can be proven without a doubt. If someone is not willing to put faith in the fact that the world is circular then they won't, no matter what "evidence" you may present them with. It's your choice :) hope you make the best. But it's time for me to head off to bed >.> good night ya'll.

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Tue 05/10/11 09:19 PM
Edited by Kleisto on Tue 05/10/11 09:22 PM

The bible itself has no direct coalition with Christianity. Didn't say the knowledge contained in the bible had no coalition. Doesn't matter if the knowledge was wrote in a book called bufelatimouse, groudily, or anything else you could think of. The bible itself is only as valuable as the paper it's written on. It's the knowledge in itself that is more valuable then any dollar that exists on Earth. The knowledge could be passed down orally, in notes, single handed writings, or again any number of possible ways and it would be still just as greatly valuable. If you notice the root word of Christianity is Christ, we aren't called biblarians or something like that lol. We do as our Christ told us to, not as specifically the "bible" tells us.


What you say might be true, but I doubt it.

I doubt very highly that if the Bible had not been canonized by the Roman Catholic Church and embraced by the Pope that Christianity would have ever been passed on word of mouth for 2000 years. If the Pope would have embraced some other religion, perhaps a pagan God, that is the religion and the God YOU would be worshiping today because you would have never heard of Jesus.

Anyone trying to pass down any other story of a savior or guru (and there were many back in the time of Jesus)would have been put to death.

That is how the Bible lasted for so long and that is the only reason you are a Christian today. Because of the Pope and the Catholic Church and the Bible.






This. For a little while now since waking up, I have contended that IF the Bible as we know it now to be, was actually true, it'd never have seen the light of day. The powers that be, have a long history of suppressing, manipulating and even outright destroying anything that does not mesh with their agendas. That the Bible exists to us in the form we know it, says to me it has a purpose to them. If it didn't, we wouldn't be seeing it.

It's really that simple.

Kleisto's photo
Tue 05/10/11 09:20 PM


The bible itself has no direct coalition with Christianity. Didn't say the knowledge contained in the bible had no coalition. Doesn't matter if the knowledge was wrote in a book called bufelatimouse, groudily, or anything else you could think of. The bible itself is only as valuable as the paper it's written on. It's the knowledge in itself that is more valuable then any dollar that exists on Earth. The knowledge could be passed down orally, in notes, single handed writings, or again any number of possible ways and it would be still just as greatly valuable. If you notice the root word of Christianity is Christ, we aren't called biblarians or something like that lol. We do as our Christ told us to, not as specifically the "bible" tells us.


What you say might be true, but I doubt it.

I doubt very highly that if the Bible had not been canonized by the Roman Catholic Church and embraced by the Pope that Christianity would have ever in a million years been passed on word of mouth for 2000 years. If the Pope would have embraced some other religion, perhaps a pagan God, that is the religion and the God YOU would be worshiping today because you would have never heard of Jesus.

Anyone trying to pass down any other story of a savior or guru (and there were many back in the time of Jesus)would have been put to death.

That is how the Bible lasted for so long and that is the only reason you are a Christian today. Because of the Pope and the Catholic Church and the Bible.






Not true. I would have heard of it orally and God would have touched my heart the same way he did in this life time. I didn't "find" god in a book. God isn't in the book we call the Holy Bible. The bible is merely knowledge of God, but nevertheless God doesn't reside in that book.


If God isn't in the book, than how can you limit the truth to only that particular book and not others? Does that not limit God?

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Tue 05/10/11 09:27 PM



The bible itself has no direct coalition with Christianity. Didn't say the knowledge contained in the bible had no coalition. Doesn't matter if the knowledge was wrote in a book called bufelatimouse, groudily, or anything else you could think of. The bible itself is only as valuable as the paper it's written on. It's the knowledge in itself that is more valuable then any dollar that exists on Earth. The knowledge could be passed down orally, in notes, single handed writings, or again any number of possible ways and it would be still just as greatly valuable. If you notice the root word of Christianity is Christ, we aren't called biblarians or something like that lol. We do as our Christ told us to, not as specifically the "bible" tells us.


What you say might be true, but I doubt it.

I doubt very highly that if the Bible had not been canonized by the Roman Catholic Church and embraced by the Pope that Christianity would have ever in a million years been passed on word of mouth for 2000 years. If the Pope would have embraced some other religion, perhaps a pagan God, that is the religion and the God YOU would be worshiping today because you would have never heard of Jesus.

Anyone trying to pass down any other story of a savior or guru (and there were many back in the time of Jesus)would have been put to death.

That is how the Bible lasted for so long and that is the only reason you are a Christian today. Because of the Pope and the Catholic Church and the Bible.






Not true. I would have heard of it orally and God would have touched my heart the same way he did in this life time. I didn't "find" god in a book. God isn't in the book we call the Holy Bible. The bible is merely knowledge of God, but nevertheless God doesn't reside in that book.


If God isn't in the book, than how can you limit the truth to only that particular book and not others? Does that not limit God?


How would that be limiting God? Different religions are contradictory to each other. One says this, one says that. One states that about God, but this one states this about God. ect ect.

You can NOT go left and right at the exact same time while going no other direction. Not gonna tell you Christianity is the "right" religion. You would have to find and make that choice for yourself or any other religious choice. Only YOU know which spiritual belief is true and is pointless to try to change another's, cause again their the only one's that can change their own beliefs. In my faith Christianity is the only true one yes.

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Tue 05/10/11 10:28 PM
Edited by MorningSong on Tue 05/10/11 10:52 PM

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Tue 05/10/11 10:37 PM
Edited by greeneyeman on Tue 05/10/11 10:53 PM
The No Bible Allowed Thread has become the Bible thread.


Christianity has won again...just because they have managed to create interest (with taste or without) - (unintentional or intentional) for the non-christians to discuss or debate right and wrongs of a belief system...and now we even see Bible links to the cause.

As for me...I have posted something that the OP wanted to read about 5 pages back, but it was simply ignored due to the quarrels of right and wrongs on what Cowboy believes.

Look you non-christians and christians even....you will not change Cowboy's views no matter how much you disagree with it. There is no use in trying even if everyone believes they are radical or not.

The smart thing to do is to try to discuss what the OP is trying to figure out. Spirituality, Ghosts, and the likes...do they exist, etc. etc.


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Tue 05/10/11 10:42 PM
Edited by MorningSong on Tue 05/10/11 11:36 PM
THE BIBLE DOESN'T JUST MERELY CONTAIN KNOWLEDGE

ABOUT GOD ,


the HOLY BIBLE IS THE INERRANT WORD OF GOD.


GOD BREATHED

HOLY SPIRT INSPIRED

LIVING WORD OF GOD.flowerforyou



ON THE PAGES OF THE BIBLE

THE WRITTEN WORD IS CALLED LOGOS,

BUT WHEN THE WORD GETS INTO THE HEART,

THEN THE WORD BECOMES RHEMA (ALIVE) !!!
flowerforyou:heart:flowerforyou







http://www.gotquestions.org/Bible-God-Word.html




http://www.gotquestions.org/Holy-Bible.html




http://www.tomorrowsworld.org/booklets/the-bible-fact-or-fiction


:heart::heart::heart:



...............................................




JESUS is in EVERY book of the bible.

Types and shadows of things to come were mentioned all thruout the

Old testament.


Jesus said, "Before Abraham was, I AM".

JESUS IS THE WORD.....

right THERE at the begining of creation,

the very One who created the world.


JESUS IS THE WORD MADE FLESH.


..........



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Tue 05/10/11 11:08 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Tue 05/10/11 11:09 PM

The No Bible Allowed Thread has become the Bible thread.


Christianity has won again...just because they have managed to create interest (with taste or without) - (unintentional or intentional) for the non-christians to discuss or debate right and wrongs of a belief system...and now we even see Bible links to the cause.

As for me...I have posted something that the OP wanted to read about 5 pages back, but it was simply ignored due to the quarrels of right and wrongs on what Cowboy believes.

Look you non-christians and christians even....you will not change Cowboy's views no matter how much you disagree with it. There is no use in trying even if everyone believes they are radical or not.

The smart thing to do is to try to discuss what the OP is trying to figure out. Spirituality, Ghosts, and the likes...do they exist, etc. etc.





As Cowboy has said and as I say, I have no intention of changing his views. THIS IS JUST A DISCUSSION.

RIGHT COWBOY??

JUST A DISCUSSION.

The O.P has left the thread. I made a few attempts to discuss what she started but got no response.

Goodnight.

I declare this thread a bust.

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Wed 05/11/11 12:08 AM

The No Bible Allowed Thread has become the Bible thread.


Christianity has won again...just because they have managed to create interest (with taste or without) - (unintentional or intentional) for the non-christians to discuss or debate right and wrongs of a belief system...and now we even see Bible links to the cause.

As for me...I have posted something that the OP wanted to read about 5 pages back, but it was simply ignored due to the quarrels of right and wrongs on what Cowboy believes.

Look you non-christians and christians even....you will not change Cowboy's views no matter how much you disagree with it. There is no use in trying even if everyone believes they are radical or not.

The smart thing to do is to try to discuss what the OP is trying to figure out. Spirituality, Ghosts, and the likes...do they exist, etc. etc.



You can't change the minds of people who are in denial. If they can't even recognize that what they are working with is FAITH, then they are already lacking the comprehension skills to carry on a meaningful conversation.

Before a person can truly discuss their own topic of interest its necessary that they themselves understand it. This is why many rational people dismiss any preachers or theologians who don't confess up front that what they are working with is entirely a faith-based belief system.

If they can't confess that up front, then they clearly don't even comprehend their own topic.

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Wed 05/11/11 06:11 AM
Edited by greeneyeman on Wed 05/11/11 06:15 AM
I understand what you are writing and see that in the end as you have mentioned is a mute point. Faith base and Logical base can have its difficulties. I started a thread on that and see exactly what is going on.

Those that have faith in a religion find what they are learning in their studies to be logical even if there is no physical proof indicating it is real to believe in it unless they use reference to documents in which they believe is proof enough.

Logical base needs often proof to be able to consider it even a topic worth discussing.

Now those with Faith find those that strictly work with Logic, believe that they are missing out on faith to see the reality or truth to everything and often send them to read documents to understand.

It goes back and forth where both parties will contradict each other until their faces turn blue.

As for example what has been going on in this thread with screenname Cowboy who is expressing his opinions against everyone. His colt45 is just shooting away isn't it! lol

One thing is that regardless how hard one doesn't support a certain belief system and tries to convince or show the errors in a belief system the strong willed faith will overcome leaving no chance of seeing a new perspective. This goes also the other way around for the one that has faith trying to show the error of one who doesn't believe or understand because they don't see physical proof.

What I also find amusing is the notion that each party believes that one is not "open minded" when it comes to such discussions. Both faith and those that rely on Logic find themselves open minded although often they don't find that true for the other contradicting their beliefs.




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Wed 05/11/11 06:26 AM



Yeah I can see women being much more attracted to conceded men :). I don't know what I was thinking women were looking for kindness, sensitivity, care, and a tender hand to heal their pains both physical and emotionally. Yes women want a strong hand to hold, not a little wimpy girl. But that doesn't mean they want a crude man that worries about how his shirt looks on him. Is appearance all you pay attention to Funches? Is that all you're looking for? Humor, Caring, loving, sweetness, ect are the greatest aspects of a woman, the looks are just extra. Less you want to admit now, that you're just in a relationship for the appearance of a woman and or that is the main reason.


Cowboy ...if your claim that caring, loving, sweetness in a woman are the greatest aspect...then perhaps you should find those same qualities within yourself and refrain from telling them that flesh and lust is sinful

because this mean that you will never make any positive comment to your spouse about her appearance ...would that in itself not be crude?


There is more to complimenting a woman's appearance outside of her being sexy. She could be gorgeous, beautiful, pretty, absolutely gorgeous, angelic, ect. Why must complimenting a woman on her appearance have to do anything with sex and or her sexual appearance?


it has nothing to do with sex as long as its for your mother, other female relatives or other women you considered to be friends or are not attracted to .....but your spouse/mate probably expect something different than the same appearance compliments that you give to your mother ...

women generally want romance and you telling a woman that her flesh is sin and that lust is a deadly sin can make for an excellent ice breaker but once she begin to realize that this is your belief may have her running and screaming as if the devil himself was chasing her

you used your religion to place up a wall that you know is delusional in an attempt not to get hurt, but all you have to remember is one thing

just as you are not attracted to all women all women will not be attracted to you, just as you are attracted to some women some women will be attracted to you, this is not based on faith but logic

so I'm going to tell you the same thing Reagan told Gorbarchev

COWBOY......TEAR DOWN THAT WALL ....and stop acting nuts


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Wed 05/11/11 07:56 AM


The No Bible Allowed Thread has become the Bible thread.


Christianity has won again...just because they have managed to create interest (with taste or without) - (unintentional or intentional) for the non-christians to discuss or debate right and wrongs of a belief system...and now we even see Bible links to the cause.

As for me...I have posted something that the OP wanted to read about 5 pages back, but it was simply ignored due to the quarrels of right and wrongs on what Cowboy believes.

Look you non-christians and christians even....you will not change Cowboy's views no matter how much you disagree with it. There is no use in trying even if everyone believes they are radical or not.

The smart thing to do is to try to discuss what the OP is trying to figure out. Spirituality, Ghosts, and the likes...do they exist, etc. etc.





As Cowboy has said and as I say, I have no intention of changing his views. THIS IS JUST A DISCUSSION.

RIGHT COWBOY??

JUST A DISCUSSION.

The O.P has left the thread. I made a few attempts to discuss what she started but got no response.

Goodnight.

I declare this thread a bust.



Exactly, we're just discussing our different beliefs with one another. Doesn't matter if our beliefs are the same or even agree. We're merely discussing our different beliefs and occasionally how we came to believing that particular belief. We're not trying to change the other's beliefs, just purely sharing with one another.

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Wed 05/11/11 09:02 AM
Edited by MorningSong on Wed 05/11/11 09:36 AM
Suggestion:

Study the bible more before you further "discuss" it on here, Cowboy.

A lot of what you share on this forum, is not quite

what the bible says

at all....just your opinion.


AT LEAST get the BASICS right.


There are different viewpoints on sone mattters among

christians.....that's no problem.....

BUT christians DO AGREE on the major issues......

but You are off a lot of the time, on even the very basics.

Get it right, or don't discuss the bible on here anymore.


People don't need to hear man's opinion when it comes to the

TRUTH of the Word of God.

ps...the above post I made earlier in this thread, was strictly for you .






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