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Topic: The NO BIBLE ALLOWED Thread can you handle it?
Spidercmb Joined Fri 04/27/07 Posts: 13137	Tue 05/10/11 08:33 PM
Also the religious notion that if you get divorced that you can't remarry is also wrong. I think that is an example of the church sticking their nose into people's personal lives. I think it is our responsibility to find happiness, not worry about what the church lady or your preacher is going to think. I don't believe these ideas come from God at all. Religion is a choice made by the individual. If the individual decides to belong to a church that doesn't allow divorcees to marry, that was his or her choice. They always have the choice of leaving the church and finding another. I find it intolerant to call another person's religious beliefs "wrong", if those beliefs don't effect anyone but the one who holds them and causes no physical harm to the believer. If no religious beliefs are "wrong", than.......how can Christians think only their way is right? If no one is truly wrong, no one is truly right either. Reading comprehension. I didn't say that no religious beliefs are wrong. I said that calling another's beliefs wrong "if those beliefs don't effect anyone but the one who holds them and causes no physical harm to the believer" is intolerant.

Kleisto Joined Tue 05/13/08 Posts: 5704	Tue 05/10/11 08:33 PM
I was hoping we could have a conversation about what we actually think in a logical manner rather than quoting a verse from the Bible which the O.P. asked we not do. I've already posted what I believe on the subject. Now I posted scripture to show that what Cowboy is saying is his personal beliefs, not mainstream Christianity. So now you know both my and Cowboy's feelings on sex and I hope it's clear that what Cowboy posted isn't Christian dogma, it's Cowboy's personal dogma. The thing is, a Christian's beliefs, regardless of what they may be, all stem from the same source. That being the Bible, and they all try and justify it by that. That's absolutely stupid, you don't really believe that, do you? I think Firefly is the best SciFi TV show of all time, did I get that from the Bible? Some Christians believe(d) in torturing themselves, that's not in the Bible. Some Christians think that non-whites are the result of a sexual union between Satan and Eve, that's not in the Bible. Please don't get so eager to disparage Christianity that you make absolutely stupid comments like this one. Without the Bible how can you be a Christian? As stupid as it may sound, it's the crux of Christianity, which without it would not exist.

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Tue 05/10/11 08:35 PM Edited by CowboyGH on Tue 05/10/11 08:36 PM
Also the religious notion that if you get divorced that you can't remarry is also wrong. I think that is an example of the church sticking their nose into people's personal lives. I think it is our responsibility to find happiness, not worry about what the church lady or your preacher is going to think. I don't believe these ideas come from God at all. Religion is a choice made by the individual. If the individual decides to belong to a church that doesn't allow divorcees to marry, that was his or her choice. They always have the choice of leaving the church and finding another. I find it intolerant to call another person's religious beliefs "wrong", if those beliefs don't effect anyone but the one who holds them and causes no physical harm to the believer. Not being knowledgeable about all the different Christian beliefs its hard to keep them strait on who believes what. To me, they are all Christians so I get them confused. Then they look at me as an adulterous because I married twice. I'm glad not all Christians are the same, but it is very hard to know what any given Christian believes.

Spidercmb Joined Fri 04/27/07 Posts: 13137	Tue 05/10/11 08:36 PM
I was hoping we could have a conversation about what we actually think in a logical manner rather than quoting a verse from the Bible which the O.P. asked we not do. I've already posted what I believe on the subject. Now I posted scripture to show that what Cowboy is saying is his personal beliefs, not mainstream Christianity. So now you know both my and Cowboy's feelings on sex and I hope it's clear that what Cowboy posted isn't Christian dogma, it's Cowboy's personal dogma. The thing is, a Christian's beliefs, regardless of what they may be, all stem from the same source. That being the Bible, and they all try and justify it by that. That's absolutely stupid, you don't really believe that, do you? I think Firefly is the best SciFi TV show of all time, did I get that from the Bible? Some Christians believe(d) in torturing themselves, that's not in the Bible. Some Christians think that non-whites are the result of a sexual union between Satan and Eve, that's not in the Bible. Please don't get so eager to disparage Christianity that you make absolutely stupid comments like this one. Without the Bible how can you be a Christian? As stupid as it may sound, it's the crux of Christianity, which without it would not exist. If you are talking about RELIGIOUS beliefs, the Bible SHOULD be the source of all of them for Christians. Just like the Quran and Hadith should be the source of all religious beliefs for Muslims. But that's not how it works. People are individuals and everyone has their own interpretations of scriptures, ignore some scriptures or are unaware of certain scriptures or beliefs.

Kleisto Joined Tue 05/13/08 Posts: 5704	Tue 05/10/11 08:38 PM
I was hoping we could have a conversation about what we actually think in a logical manner rather than quoting a verse from the Bible which the O.P. asked we not do. I've already posted what I believe on the subject. Now I posted scripture to show that what Cowboy is saying is his personal beliefs, not mainstream Christianity. So now you know both my and Cowboy's feelings on sex and I hope it's clear that what Cowboy posted isn't Christian dogma, it's Cowboy's personal dogma. The thing is, a Christian's beliefs, regardless of what they may be, all stem from the same source. That being the Bible, and they all try and justify it by that. That's absolutely stupid, you don't really believe that, do you? I think Firefly is the best SciFi TV show of all time, did I get that from the Bible? Some Christians believe(d) in torturing themselves, that's not in the Bible. Some Christians think that non-whites are the result of a sexual union between Satan and Eve, that's not in the Bible. Please don't get so eager to disparage Christianity that you make absolutely stupid comments like this one. Without the Bible how can you be a Christian? As stupid as it may sound, it's the crux of Christianity, which without it would not exist. If you are talking about RELIGIOUS beliefs, the Bible SHOULD be the source of all of them for Christians. Just like the Quran and Hadith should be the source of all religious beliefs for Muslims. But that's not how it works. People are individuals and everyone has their own interpretations of scriptures, ignore some scriptures or are unaware of certain scriptures or beliefs. That's another thing in itself. If the truth is so obvious, why does everyone argue what it is? If everyone could see it, that wouldn't really be the case would it?

greeneyeman Joined Wed 04/13/11 Posts: 350	Tue 05/10/11 08:40 PM
Man this is the weirdest thread on the site. lol

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Tue 05/10/11 08:40 PM
I was hoping we could have a conversation about what we actually think in a logical manner rather than quoting a verse from the Bible which the O.P. asked we not do. I've already posted what I believe on the subject. Now I posted scripture to show that what Cowboy is saying is his personal beliefs, not mainstream Christianity. So now you know both my and Cowboy's feelings on sex and I hope it's clear that what Cowboy posted isn't Christian dogma, it's Cowboy's personal dogma. The thing is, a Christian's beliefs, regardless of what they may be, all stem from the same source. That being the Bible, and they all try and justify it by that. That's absolutely stupid, you don't really believe that, do you? I think Firefly is the best SciFi TV show of all time, did I get that from the Bible? Some Christians believe(d) in torturing themselves, that's not in the Bible. Some Christians think that non-whites are the result of a sexual union between Satan and Eve, that's not in the Bible. Please don't get so eager to disparage Christianity that you make absolutely stupid comments like this one. Without the Bible how can you be a Christian? As stupid as it may sound, it's the crux of Christianity, which without it would not exist. If you are talking about RELIGIOUS beliefs, the Bible SHOULD be the source of all of them for Christians. Just like the Quran and Hadith should be the source of all religious beliefs for Muslims. But that's not how it works. People are individuals and everyone has their own interpretations of scriptures, ignore some scriptures or are unaware of certain scriptures or beliefs. Being Christian doesn't have any direct coalitions with the bible. Christian, root word is Christ. Christian means Christ like. Yes none of us could be as perfect as Jesus, don't get me wrong not saying that at all. But being a Christian we strive to be Christ like eg., Christian. Christian is more then just a word, it is action as well. Knowledge of our Christ, Jesus could have come from your elders, the bum down the street, hearing two people talking and getting interested in it, talking with your friend, any number of sources. It doesn't HAVE to come from the bible.

Kleisto Joined Tue 05/13/08 Posts: 5704	Tue 05/10/11 08:41 PM
I was hoping we could have a conversation about what we actually think in a logical manner rather than quoting a verse from the Bible which the O.P. asked we not do. I've already posted what I believe on the subject. Now I posted scripture to show that what Cowboy is saying is his personal beliefs, not mainstream Christianity. So now you know both my and Cowboy's feelings on sex and I hope it's clear that what Cowboy posted isn't Christian dogma, it's Cowboy's personal dogma. The thing is, a Christian's beliefs, regardless of what they may be, all stem from the same source. That being the Bible, and they all try and justify it by that. That's absolutely stupid, you don't really believe that, do you? I think Firefly is the best SciFi TV show of all time, did I get that from the Bible? Some Christians believe(d) in torturing themselves, that's not in the Bible. Some Christians think that non-whites are the result of a sexual union between Satan and Eve, that's not in the Bible. Please don't get so eager to disparage Christianity that you make absolutely stupid comments like this one. Without the Bible how can you be a Christian? As stupid as it may sound, it's the crux of Christianity, which without it would not exist. If you are talking about RELIGIOUS beliefs, the Bible SHOULD be the source of all of them for Christians. Just like the Quran and Hadith should be the source of all religious beliefs for Muslims. But that's not how it works. People are individuals and everyone has their own interpretations of scriptures, ignore some scriptures or are unaware of certain scriptures or beliefs. Being Christian doesn't have any direct coalitions with the bible. Christian, root word is Christ. Christian means Christ like. Yes none of us could be as perfect as Jesus, don't get me wrong not saying that at all. But being a Christian we strive to be Christ like eg., Christian. Christian is more then just a word, it is action as well. Knowledge of our Christ, Jesus could have come from your elders, the bum down the street, hearing two people talking and getting interested in it, talking with your friend, any number of sources. It doesn't HAVE to come from the bible. No but the actual ideas START there, no matter where you may hear it from later.

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Tue 05/10/11 08:42 PM
I was hoping we could have a conversation about what we actually think in a logical manner rather than quoting a verse from the Bible which the O.P. asked we not do. I've already posted what I believe on the subject. Now I posted scripture to show that what Cowboy is saying is his personal beliefs, not mainstream Christianity. So now you know both my and Cowboy's feelings on sex and I hope it's clear that what Cowboy posted isn't Christian dogma, it's Cowboy's personal dogma. The thing is, a Christian's beliefs, regardless of what they may be, all stem from the same source. That being the Bible, and they all try and justify it by that. That's absolutely stupid, you don't really believe that, do you? I think Firefly is the best SciFi TV show of all time, did I get that from the Bible? Some Christians believe(d) in torturing themselves, that's not in the Bible. Some Christians think that non-whites are the result of a sexual union between Satan and Eve, that's not in the Bible. Please don't get so eager to disparage Christianity that you make absolutely stupid comments like this one. Without the Bible how can you be a Christian? As stupid as it may sound, it's the crux of Christianity, which without it would not exist. If you are talking about RELIGIOUS beliefs, the Bible SHOULD be the source of all of them for Christians. Just like the Quran and Hadith should be the source of all religious beliefs for Muslims. But that's not how it works. People are individuals and everyone has their own interpretations of scriptures, ignore some scriptures or are unaware of certain scriptures or beliefs. That's another thing in itself. If the truth is so obvious, why does everyone argue what it is? If everyone could see it, that wouldn't really be the case would it? People argue and don't come to an agreement because of their ego. They think they have all the knowledge and it trumps any "knowledge" another may think they have.

Peter_Pan69 Joined Sun 08/23/09 Posts: 2781	Tue 05/10/11 08:43 PM
I was hoping we could have a conversation about what we actually think in a logical manner rather than quoting a verse from the Bible which the O.P. asked we not do. I've already posted what I believe on the subject. Now I posted scripture to show that what Cowboy is saying is his personal beliefs, not mainstream Christianity. So now you know both my and Cowboy's feelings on sex and I hope it's clear that what Cowboy posted isn't Christian dogma, it's Cowboy's personal dogma. The thing is, a Christian's beliefs, regardless of what they may be, all stem from the same source. That being the Bible, and they all try and justify it by that. That's absolutely stupid, you don't really believe that, do you? I think Firefly is the best SciFi TV show of all time, did I get that from the Bible? Some Christians believe(d) in torturing themselves, that's not in the Bible. Some Christians think that non-whites are the result of a sexual union between Satan and Eve, that's not in the Bible. Please don't get so eager to disparage Christianity that you make absolutely stupid comments like this one. Without the Bible how can you be a Christian? As stupid as it may sound, it's the crux of Christianity, which without it would not exist. If you are talking about RELIGIOUS beliefs, the Bible SHOULD be the source of all of them for Christians. Just like the Quran and Hadith should be the source of all religious beliefs for Muslims. But that's not how it works. People are individuals and everyone has their own interpretations of scriptures, ignore some scriptures or are unaware of certain scriptures or beliefs. Being Christian doesn't have any direct coalitions with the bible. Christian, root word is Christ. Christian means Christ like. Yes none of us could be as perfect as Jesus, don't get me wrong not saying that at all. But being a Christian we strive to be Christ like eg., Christian. Christian is more then just a word, it is action as well. Knowledge of our Christ, Jesus could have come from your elders, the bum down the street, hearing two people talking and getting interested in it, talking with your friend, any number of sources. It doesn't HAVE to come from the bible. No but the actual ideas START there, no matter where you may hear it from later. Are you saying the book came before the man???

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Tue 05/10/11 08:43 PM
I was hoping we could have a conversation about what we actually think in a logical manner rather than quoting a verse from the Bible which the O.P. asked we not do. I've already posted what I believe on the subject. Now I posted scripture to show that what Cowboy is saying is his personal beliefs, not mainstream Christianity. So now you know both my and Cowboy's feelings on sex and I hope it's clear that what Cowboy posted isn't Christian dogma, it's Cowboy's personal dogma. The thing is, a Christian's beliefs, regardless of what they may be, all stem from the same source. That being the Bible, and they all try and justify it by that. That's absolutely stupid, you don't really believe that, do you? I think Firefly is the best SciFi TV show of all time, did I get that from the Bible? Some Christians believe(d) in torturing themselves, that's not in the Bible. Some Christians think that non-whites are the result of a sexual union between Satan and Eve, that's not in the Bible. Please don't get so eager to disparage Christianity that you make absolutely stupid comments like this one. Without the Bible how can you be a Christian? As stupid as it may sound, it's the crux of Christianity, which without it would not exist. If you are talking about RELIGIOUS beliefs, the Bible SHOULD be the source of all of them for Christians. Just like the Quran and Hadith should be the source of all religious beliefs for Muslims. But that's not how it works. People are individuals and everyone has their own interpretations of scriptures, ignore some scriptures or are unaware of certain scriptures or beliefs. Being Christian doesn't have any direct coalitions with the bible. Christian, root word is Christ. Christian means Christ like. Yes none of us could be as perfect as Jesus, don't get me wrong not saying that at all. But being a Christian we strive to be Christ like eg., Christian. Christian is more then just a word, it is action as well. Knowledge of our Christ, Jesus could have come from your elders, the bum down the street, hearing two people talking and getting interested in it, talking with your friend, any number of sources. It doesn't HAVE to come from the bible. No but the actual ideas START there, no matter where you may hear it from later. Yes any and all religions have their specific source, that if that source didn't exist neither would their religion.

Jeanniebean Joined Wed 01/30/08 Posts: 40028	Tue 05/10/11 08:44 PM
Being Christian doesn't have any direct coalitions with the bible. Christian, root word is Christ. Christian means Christ like. Yes none of us could be as perfect as Jesus, don't get me wrong not saying that at all. But being a Christian we strive to be Christ like eg., Christian. Christian is more then just a word, it is action as well. I would love it if that were true. I mean, I would love to meet some Christ-like Christians who did not quote Bible scriptures.

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Tue 05/10/11 08:44 PM
I was hoping we could have a conversation about what we actually think in a logical manner rather than quoting a verse from the Bible which the O.P. asked we not do. I've already posted what I believe on the subject. Now I posted scripture to show that what Cowboy is saying is his personal beliefs, not mainstream Christianity. So now you know both my and Cowboy's feelings on sex and I hope it's clear that what Cowboy posted isn't Christian dogma, it's Cowboy's personal dogma. The thing is, a Christian's beliefs, regardless of what they may be, all stem from the same source. That being the Bible, and they all try and justify it by that. That's absolutely stupid, you don't really believe that, do you? I think Firefly is the best SciFi TV show of all time, did I get that from the Bible? Some Christians believe(d) in torturing themselves, that's not in the Bible. Some Christians think that non-whites are the result of a sexual union between Satan and Eve, that's not in the Bible. Please don't get so eager to disparage Christianity that you make absolutely stupid comments like this one. Without the Bible how can you be a Christian? As stupid as it may sound, it's the crux of Christianity, which without it would not exist. If you are talking about RELIGIOUS beliefs, the Bible SHOULD be the source of all of them for Christians. Just like the Quran and Hadith should be the source of all religious beliefs for Muslims. But that's not how it works. People are individuals and everyone has their own interpretations of scriptures, ignore some scriptures or are unaware of certain scriptures or beliefs. Being Christian doesn't have any direct coalitions with the bible. Christian, root word is Christ. Christian means Christ like. Yes none of us could be as perfect as Jesus, don't get me wrong not saying that at all. But being a Christian we strive to be Christ like eg., Christian. Christian is more then just a word, it is action as well. Knowledge of our Christ, Jesus could have come from your elders, the bum down the street, hearing two people talking and getting interested in it, talking with your friend, any number of sources. It doesn't HAVE to come from the bible. No but the actual ideas START there, no matter where you may hear it from later. Are you saying the book came before the man??? Very good point.

Kleisto Joined Tue 05/13/08 Posts: 5704	Tue 05/10/11 08:46 PM
I was hoping we could have a conversation about what we actually think in a logical manner rather than quoting a verse from the Bible which the O.P. asked we not do. I've already posted what I believe on the subject. Now I posted scripture to show that what Cowboy is saying is his personal beliefs, not mainstream Christianity. So now you know both my and Cowboy's feelings on sex and I hope it's clear that what Cowboy posted isn't Christian dogma, it's Cowboy's personal dogma. The thing is, a Christian's beliefs, regardless of what they may be, all stem from the same source. That being the Bible, and they all try and justify it by that. That's absolutely stupid, you don't really believe that, do you? I think Firefly is the best SciFi TV show of all time, did I get that from the Bible? Some Christians believe(d) in torturing themselves, that's not in the Bible. Some Christians think that non-whites are the result of a sexual union between Satan and Eve, that's not in the Bible. Please don't get so eager to disparage Christianity that you make absolutely stupid comments like this one. Without the Bible how can you be a Christian? As stupid as it may sound, it's the crux of Christianity, which without it would not exist. If you are talking about RELIGIOUS beliefs, the Bible SHOULD be the source of all of them for Christians. Just like the Quran and Hadith should be the source of all religious beliefs for Muslims. But that's not how it works. People are individuals and everyone has their own interpretations of scriptures, ignore some scriptures or are unaware of certain scriptures or beliefs. Being Christian doesn't have any direct coalitions with the bible. Christian, root word is Christ. Christian means Christ like. Yes none of us could be as perfect as Jesus, don't get me wrong not saying that at all. But being a Christian we strive to be Christ like eg., Christian. Christian is more then just a word, it is action as well. Knowledge of our Christ, Jesus could have come from your elders, the bum down the street, hearing two people talking and getting interested in it, talking with your friend, any number of sources. It doesn't HAVE to come from the bible. No but the actual ideas START there, no matter where you may hear it from later. Are you saying the book came before the man??? No, what I am saying is, if you didn't have the book telling you that Jesus existed, and other such things associated with Christianity, none of these beliefs you hold would exist.

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Tue 05/10/11 08:46 PM
Being Christian doesn't have any direct coalitions with the bible. Christian, root word is Christ. Christian means Christ like. Yes none of us could be as perfect as Jesus, don't get me wrong not saying that at all. But being a Christian we strive to be Christ like eg., Christian. Christian is more then just a word, it is action as well. I would love it if that were true. I mean, I would love to meet some Christ-like Christians who did not quote Bible scriptures. The main knowledge in the new testament came from our Christ, Jesus. So how would not quoting this stuff be Christ like? All in all our Christ said it first.

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Tue 05/10/11 08:47 PM
I was hoping we could have a conversation about what we actually think in a logical manner rather than quoting a verse from the Bible which the O.P. asked we not do. I've already posted what I believe on the subject. Now I posted scripture to show that what Cowboy is saying is his personal beliefs, not mainstream Christianity. So now you know both my and Cowboy's feelings on sex and I hope it's clear that what Cowboy posted isn't Christian dogma, it's Cowboy's personal dogma. The thing is, a Christian's beliefs, regardless of what they may be, all stem from the same source. That being the Bible, and they all try and justify it by that. That's absolutely stupid, you don't really believe that, do you? I think Firefly is the best SciFi TV show of all time, did I get that from the Bible? Some Christians believe(d) in torturing themselves, that's not in the Bible. Some Christians think that non-whites are the result of a sexual union between Satan and Eve, that's not in the Bible. Please don't get so eager to disparage Christianity that you make absolutely stupid comments like this one. Without the Bible how can you be a Christian? As stupid as it may sound, it's the crux of Christianity, which without it would not exist. If you are talking about RELIGIOUS beliefs, the Bible SHOULD be the source of all of them for Christians. Just like the Quran and Hadith should be the source of all religious beliefs for Muslims. But that's not how it works. People are individuals and everyone has their own interpretations of scriptures, ignore some scriptures or are unaware of certain scriptures or beliefs. Being Christian doesn't have any direct coalitions with the bible. Christian, root word is Christ. Christian means Christ like. Yes none of us could be as perfect as Jesus, don't get me wrong not saying that at all. But being a Christian we strive to be Christ like eg., Christian. Christian is more then just a word, it is action as well. Knowledge of our Christ, Jesus could have come from your elders, the bum down the street, hearing two people talking and getting interested in it, talking with your friend, any number of sources. It doesn't HAVE to come from the bible. No but the actual ideas START there, no matter where you may hear it from later. Are you saying the book came before the man??? No, what I am saying is, if you didn't have the book telling you that Jesus existed, and other such things associated with Christianity, none of these beliefs you hold would exist. Sure they would, they would be passed orally.

Spidercmb Joined Fri 04/27/07 Posts: 13137	Tue 05/10/11 08:48 PM
That's another thing in itself. If the truth is so obvious, why does everyone argue what it is? If everyone could see it, that wouldn't really be the case would it? I've explained this to you before, so I can't take this question seriously. You are just trolling or the first time I answered you ignored it. Either way, it's not worth my time to answer it again.

Jeanniebean Joined Wed 01/30/08 Posts: 40028	Tue 05/10/11 08:49 PM
Being Christian doesn't have any direct coalitions with the bible. Christian, root word is Christ. Christian means Christ like. Yes none of us could be as perfect as Jesus, don't get me wrong not saying that at all. But being a Christian we strive to be Christ like eg., Christian. Christian is more then just a word, it is action as well. I would love it if that were true. I mean, I would love to meet some Christ-like Christians who did not quote Bible scriptures. The main knowledge in the new testament came from our Christ, Jesus. So how would not quoting this stuff be Christ like? All in all our Christ said it first. Then it is not true. Make up your mind. You said, "Being Christian doesn't have any direct coalitions with the bible."

Kleisto Joined Tue 05/13/08 Posts: 5704	Tue 05/10/11 08:51 PM
I was hoping we could have a conversation about what we actually think in a logical manner rather than quoting a verse from the Bible which the O.P. asked we not do. I've already posted what I believe on the subject. Now I posted scripture to show that what Cowboy is saying is his personal beliefs, not mainstream Christianity. So now you know both my and Cowboy's feelings on sex and I hope it's clear that what Cowboy posted isn't Christian dogma, it's Cowboy's personal dogma. The thing is, a Christian's beliefs, regardless of what they may be, all stem from the same source. That being the Bible, and they all try and justify it by that. That's absolutely stupid, you don't really believe that, do you? I think Firefly is the best SciFi TV show of all time, did I get that from the Bible? Some Christians believe(d) in torturing themselves, that's not in the Bible. Some Christians think that non-whites are the result of a sexual union between Satan and Eve, that's not in the Bible. Please don't get so eager to disparage Christianity that you make absolutely stupid comments like this one. Without the Bible how can you be a Christian? As stupid as it may sound, it's the crux of Christianity, which without it would not exist. If you are talking about RELIGIOUS beliefs, the Bible SHOULD be the source of all of them for Christians. Just like the Quran and Hadith should be the source of all religious beliefs for Muslims. But that's not how it works. People are individuals and everyone has their own interpretations of scriptures, ignore some scriptures or are unaware of certain scriptures or beliefs. Being Christian doesn't have any direct coalitions with the bible. Christian, root word is Christ. Christian means Christ like. Yes none of us could be as perfect as Jesus, don't get me wrong not saying that at all. But being a Christian we strive to be Christ like eg., Christian. Christian is more then just a word, it is action as well. Knowledge of our Christ, Jesus could have come from your elders, the bum down the street, hearing two people talking and getting interested in it, talking with your friend, any number of sources. It doesn't HAVE to come from the bible. No but the actual ideas START there, no matter where you may hear it from later. Are you saying the book came before the man??? No, what I am saying is, if you didn't have the book telling you that Jesus existed, and other such things associated with Christianity, none of these beliefs you hold would exist. Sure they would, they would be passed orally. How do you know that? We're talking something that happened 2,000 years ago supposedly. Even if it was, it wouldn't be anything like what the Bible is, with the changes made in the story as it got passed down.

Kleisto Joined Tue 05/13/08 Posts: 5704	Tue 05/10/11 08:52 PM Edited by Kleisto on Tue 05/10/11 08:53 PM
That's another thing in itself. If the truth is so obvious, why does everyone argue what it is? If everyone could see it, that wouldn't really be the case would it? I've explained this to you before, so I can't take this question seriously. You are just trolling or the first time I answered you ignored it. Either way, it's not worth my time to answer it again. I'm not trolling at all, it's a legitimate question. But so be it. Suppose it's not worth answering your questions either if you are gonna say the same things too.