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I'm surprised there isn't protest about the Christmas tree at the White House. I triple dog dare someone to tell me I can't have one   I'm glad my bank does their own thing. They have stockings and other Christmas decorations up. It's festive. If they decided to put up decorations for all holidays, then that's great too. I just don't see the purpose of being so PC to not offend some people by ceasing everything. You can't please everyone. Some one will always be offended. Good post! Political correctness has become a disease. Culture, tradition, and history are being taught to mean nothing because what has been done publicly for hundreds of years now might offend someone. The United States has a legal system and government that is supposed to be based on Judeo/Christian values combined with the belief that everyone can believe anything or nothing as they choose. Now the majority is expected to change long held traditions because of the noise made by a small minority. I think being PC is the problem. |
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I can see it being offensive if someone...let's say....walks into a synagogue and yells "Merry Christmas" knowing they don't celebrate Christmas. But if someone comes to me and says Happy Hanukkah I would feel good because they are sending me well wishes. The PC stuff is getting whack-a-doo I'm going to start making up holidays. Can't be offended if you don't know what it is, right???? Happy blubatoney everyone  I tell people Happy Hanukkah sometimes when they wish me a Merry Christmas. I get some weird looks. 
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I can see it being offensive if someone...let's say....walks into a synagogue and yells "Merry Christmas" knowing they don't celebrate Christmas. But if someone comes to me and says Happy Hanukkah I would feel good because they are sending me well wishes. The PC stuff is getting whack-a-doo I'm going to start making up holidays. Can't be offended if you don't know what it is, right???? Happy blubatoney everyone lol, I dont like blue, how offensive! not blue....blub. and what do you have against blub??? huh huh huh??? riddle me that batman I'm offended that you dissed blue oh! blub........nevermind then,,,,,happy blubatoney to you too 
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It offends me that big business uses Holidays to convince people to buy buy buy.........and to lose the true meanings behind the celebrations Me too!! |
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I can see it being offensive if someone...let's say....walks into a synagogue and yells "Merry Christmas" knowing they don't celebrate Christmas. But if someone comes to me and says Happy Hanukkah I would feel good because they are sending me well wishes. The PC stuff is getting whack-a-doo I'm going to start making up holidays. Can't be offended if you don't know what it is, right???? Happy blubatoney everyone I tell people Happy Hanukkah sometimes when they wish me a Merry Christmas. I get some weird looks. lol, cute My paralegal instructor was a jewish lawyer. She wished me happy (Rosh hashana?)some jewish holiday and I was like,,,,"THANKS< YOU TOO" then I proceded to ask her what (Rosh Hashana?) was....lol |
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I can see it being offensive if someone...let's say....walks into a synagogue and yells "Merry Christmas" knowing they don't celebrate Christmas. But if someone comes to me and says Happy Hanukkah I would feel good because they are sending me well wishes. The PC stuff is getting whack-a-doo I'm going to start making up holidays. Can't be offended if you don't know what it is, right???? Happy blubatoney everyone I tell people Happy Hanukkah sometimes when they wish me a Merry Christmas. I get some weird looks. lol, cute My paralegal instructor was a jewish lawyer. She wished me happy (Rosh hashana?)some jewish holiday and I was like,,,,"THANKS< YOU TOO" then I proceded to ask her what (Rosh Hashana?) was....lol haha nice. Our Mayor is Jewish and he was at the Christmas Tree lighting and spoke there. So, it's definitely not all people who are offended by things having to do with certain holidays. I think some people just like to complain, no matter what's going on. They're not content if they're not complaining about something. |
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Its actually just as offensive to say Merry Christmas. Our offices here say Seasons Greetings. Fact is not all of us celebrate Christmas. I personally wouldn't put up a tree as I don't believe in killing trees. I also don't buy gifts either as I just don't believe in the commercialization of Christmas. I think you should be able to sit down with family and friends at Christmas with just a simple meal. There is no need for trees, lights, gifts, and the gluteny of over eating. Some how over the years; we seem to have forgotten how to celebrate a simple Chrismas without making it about money and silly decorations. But wouldn't saying Season's Greetings be offensive to those that don't celebrate the season in any way??? How each person celebrates or doesn't is up to them. If I say Merry Christmas to someone as a well wish and they get offended then that is on them. I'm not changing who I am or my beliefs because no matter what someone says, someone can get offended. Season's greetings is acceptable as it has nothing to do with the word Christmas. One could interpet that saying as Winter greetings as winter is a season. Fact is you can say what you want in your private life but in business only certain things are acceptable. You can't risk losing a big account just because you insist on saying Merry Christmas. We have to respect the wishes of other cultures and other beliefs or non beliefs. At work we must represent ourselves professionally and keep our personal views to ourselves. Myself when someone says Merry Christmas to me personally; I just don't acknowledge it or respond to it. |
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Edited by
msharmony
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Mon 12/06/10 11:16 AM
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Its actually just as offensive to say Merry Christmas. Our offices here say Seasons Greetings. Fact is not all of us celebrate Christmas. I personally wouldn't put up a tree as I don't believe in killing trees. I also don't buy gifts either as I just don't believe in the commercialization of Christmas. I think you should be able to sit down with family and friends at Christmas with just a simple meal. There is no need for trees, lights, gifts, and the gluteny of over eating. Some how over the years; we seem to have forgotten how to celebrate a simple Chrismas without making it about money and silly decorations. But wouldn't saying Season's Greetings be offensive to those that don't celebrate the season in any way??? How each person celebrates or doesn't is up to them. If I say Merry Christmas to someone as a well wish and they get offended then that is on them. I'm not changing who I am or my beliefs because no matter what someone says, someone can get offended. Season's greetings is acceptable as it has nothing to do with the word Christmas. One could interpet that saying as Winter greetings as winter is a season. Fact is you can say what you want in your private life but in business only certain things are acceptable. You can't risk losing a big account just because you insist on saying Merry Christmas. We have to respect the wishes of other cultures and other beliefs or non beliefs. At work we must represent ourselves professionally and keep our personal views to ourselves. Myself when someone says Merry Christmas to me personally; I just don't acknowledge it or respond to it. what is 'professional' is subjective when it comes to well wishes i would imagine if a business is christian enough to say merry christmas or jewish enough to say happy hannukah,they probably are catering to enough like minded folks that they dont mind not having the business of those who would be 'offended' by such celebrations,, respect is a two way street, if we are all truly respecting each others cultures than there would be no offense to how others choose to celebrate or express their sentiments,,, |
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Edited by
navygirl
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Mon 12/06/10 11:20 AM
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Its actually just as offensive to say Merry Christmas. Our offices here say Seasons Greetings. Fact is not all of us celebrate Christmas. I personally wouldn't put up a tree as I don't believe in killing trees. I also don't buy gifts either as I just don't believe in the commercialization of Christmas. I think you should be able to sit down with family and friends at Christmas with just a simple meal. There is no need for trees, lights, gifts, and the gluteny of over eating. Some how over the years; we seem to have forgotten how to celebrate a simple Chrismas without making it about money and silly decorations. But wouldn't saying Season's Greetings be offensive to those that don't celebrate the season in any way??? How each person celebrates or doesn't is up to them. If I say Merry Christmas to someone as a well wish and they get offended then that is on them. I'm not changing who I am or my beliefs because no matter what someone says, someone can get offended. Season's greetings is acceptable as it has nothing to do with the word Christmas. One could interpet that saying as Winter greetings as winter is a season. Fact is you can say what you want in your private life but in business only certain things are acceptable. You can't risk losing a big account just because you insist on saying Merry Christmas. We have to respect the wishes of other cultures and other beliefs or non beliefs. At work we must represent ourselves professionally and keep our personal views to ourselves. Myself when someone says Merry Christmas to me personally; I just don't acknowledge it or respond to it. what is 'professional' is subjective when it comes to well wishes i would imagine if a business is christian enough to say merry christmas or jewish enough to say happy hannukah,they probably are catering to enough like minded folks that they dont mind not having the business of those who would be 'offended' by such celebrations,, respect is a two way street, if we are all truly respecting each others cultures than there would be no offense to how others choose to celebrate or express their sentiments,,, Its called being politically correct. Its that simple. One can celebrate how they wish in private but you can't force your beliefs, or wishes on anyone. Its crossing the line of being politically correct. Wishing someone well is not the same as saying Merry Christmas. |
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But wouldn't saying Season's Greetings be offensive to those that don't celebrate the season in any way??? Actually, I'd think Season's Greetings is as neutral as can possibly. Happy Holidays would suggest that you do celebrate some holiday, whereas Season's Greetings could apply to ANY season, not just winter. |
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But wouldn't saying Season's Greetings be offensive to those that don't celebrate the season in any way??? Actually, I'd think Season's Greetings is as neutral as can possibly. Happy Holidays would suggest that you do celebrate some holiday, whereas Season's Greetings could apply to ANY season, not just winter. Exactly what I said. 
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I'm going to start making up holidays. Can't be offended if you don't know what it is, right???? Happy blubatoney everyone Now I'm offended....what about Festivus, for the rest of us? 
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Edited by
navygirl
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Mon 12/06/10 11:29 AM
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I'm going to start making up holidays. Can't be offended if you don't know what it is, right???? Happy blubatoney everyone Now I'm offended....what about Festivus, for the rest of us? Hell, I just don't say frack all to anyone because really who gives a damn. I just play by the rules as I want to keep my job
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Edited by
msharmony
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Mon 12/06/10 11:36 AM
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to each their own
Acts 4:18-20 Then they... commanded them not to speak or teach at all in the name of Jesus. But Peter and John replied, “Judge for yourselves whether it is right in God’s sight to obey you rather than God. For we cannot help speaking about what we have seen and heard.” a job that will discard someone for saying merry christmas is not an environment that would be a good fit for me anyhow,,,making everyone comfortable is impossible and not the bottom line Id rather lose the business of three out of one hundred in order to appease the ninety seven and stay true to my values, than to be so fearful of losing three that I cant aknowledge the ninety seven or display my values,,,but thats just me I might have customers who dont think women should work, but thank goodness the laws dont require me to accomodate every customers preferences about every issue,,, |
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Edited by
navygirl
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Mon 12/06/10 11:39 AM
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to each their own Acts 4:18-20 Then they... commanded them not to speak or teach at all in the name of Jesus. But Peter and John replied, “Judge for yourselves whether it is right in God’s sight to obey you rather than God. For we cannot help speaking about what we have seen and heard.” a job that will discard someone for saying merry christmas is not an environment that would be a good fit for me anyhow,,,making everyone comfortable is impossible and not the bottom line Id rather lose the business of three out of one hundred in order to appease the ninety seven and stay true to my values, than to be so fearful of losing three that I cant aknowledge the ninety seven or display my values,,,but thats just me I might have customers who dont think women should work, but thank goodness the laws dont require me to accomodate every customers preferences about every issue,,, Trust me, when you almost lose your house and can't buy groceries, your job is the most important thing there is and I know as I went through that. Praying to God isn't going to pay my bills. |
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to each their own Acts 4:18-20 Then they... commanded them not to speak or teach at all in the name of Jesus. But Peter and John replied, “Judge for yourselves whether it is right in God’s sight to obey you rather than God. For we cannot help speaking about what we have seen and heard.” a job that will discard someone for saying merry christmas is not an environment that would be a good fit for me anyhow,,,making everyone comfortable is impossible and not the bottom line Id rather lose the business of three out of one hundred in order to appease the ninety seven and stay true to my values, than to be so fearful of losing three that I cant aknowledge the ninety seven or display my values,,,but thats just me I might have customers who dont think women should work, but thank goodness the laws dont require me to accomodate every customers preferences about every issue,,, Trust me, when you almost lose your house and can't buy groceries, your job is the most important thing there is and I know as I went through that. Praying to God isn't going to pay my bills; I am on my own. respect, as am I but in the end, I choose God and he makes a way(although its usually got plenty of hard work and obstacles) |
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The United States has a legal system and government that is supposed to be based on Judeo/Christian values combined with the belief that everyone can believe anything or nothing as they choose. Now the majority is expected to change long held traditions because of the noise made by a small minority. I think being PC is the problem. Actually being EXTREME in being PC would be the problem, just as it applies in other areas. Remember, it was a long held tradition that women remain barefoot and pregnant at home. They weren't to have careers, except as a waitress or a secretary at best. It was a long held tradition that a business could deny someone business based on the color of their skin. Hell, we recently had a politician say that businesses should still have the right to serve who they want and deny service to who they want based on the color of their skin. He was quick to say it was a wrong belief, but that it was their right. I dunno, maybe I've made some sort of disconnected attempt to illustrate my point and that the comparison doesn't hold. Just sayin... |
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Edited by
navygirl
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Mon 12/06/10 12:40 PM
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The United States has a legal system and government that is supposed to be based on Judeo/Christian values combined with the belief that everyone can believe anything or nothing as they choose. Now the majority is expected to change long held traditions because of the noise made by a small minority. I think being PC is the problem. Actually being EXTREME in being PC would be the problem, just as it applies in other areas. Remember, it was a long held tradition that women remain barefoot and pregnant at home. They weren't to have careers, except as a waitress or a secretary at best. It was a long held tradition that a business could deny someone business based on the color of their skin. Hell, we recently had a politician say that businesses should still have the right to serve who they want and deny service to who they want based on the color of their skin. He was quick to say it was a wrong belief, but that it was their right. I dunno, maybe I've made some sort of disconnected attempt to illustrate my point and that the comparison doesn't hold. Just sayin... Good point. Some traditions certainly did need to change.
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people should just go about their own business...and not worry about what others are doing... My country is Roman Catholic...period...if you are of another faith or atheist, you just need to deal with god in your face all the time...if you dont like it or are "offended"...you are always welcomed to live somewhere else... ..by the way, Im jewish...so I just deal with it and hang out with other jews...  This. Hard to find anything in the political section of the forum that isn't childish anymore though. |
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Happy Chanukkah!!
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