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Topic: NAACP gets owned by Tea Party over Rascism
Chazster's photo
Sat 10/23/10 07:48 PM

Really? I don't know any networks that try to target white people. Non minority networks cant show biased for white people and against minorities.


its called BET, Univision, and galavision...


I didnt know those were networks that target the majority.

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Sat 10/23/10 07:50 PM


Really? I don't know any networks that try to target white people. Non minority networks cant show biased for white people and against minorities.


its called BET, Univision, and galavision...


I didnt know those were networks that target the majority.


BET targets the majority of blacks, while the other two target the majority of spanish...

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Sat 10/23/10 07:51 PM



Really? I don't know any networks that try to target white people. Non minority networks cant show biased for white people and against minorities.


its called BET, Univision, and galavision...


I didnt know those were networks that target the majority.


BET targets the majority of blacks, while the other two target the majority of spanish...


I meant the majority race of the country. XD
I was saying there can't be a similar "white" channel without an uprising.

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Sat 10/23/10 08:13 PM




Really? I don't know any networks that try to target white people. Non minority networks cant show biased for white people and against minorities.


its called BET, Univision, and galavision...


I didnt know those were networks that target the majority.


BET targets the majority of blacks, while the other two target the majority of spanish...


I meant the majority race of the country. XD
I was saying there can't be a similar "white" channel without an uprising.

well, yea, i agree.. we can't have a WET (white entertainment channel) that would be racist...noway noway

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Sat 10/23/10 08:49 PM

Really? I don't know any networks that try to target white people. Non minority networks cant show biased for white people and against minorities.


its called BET, Univision, and galavision...


Turn on network TV. The non-whites are too far and few between. If normal TV networks put on more shows with minorities, BET, UniVision and GalaVision would disappear.

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Sat 10/23/10 09:07 PM
I've been hearing about, and seeing commercials for, W.E.T. shows all my life. It seems to me that most of the shows on the air are for W.E.T.

The shows that I like deal primarily with that subset of our culture which is mostly white. They cast these shows fairly realistically - and in doing so caste mostly white people.

There is no college fund to help underprivileged white kids etc.


There are scholarships specifically for white kids - its just that they are a little more narrow than that. They aren't open to all white kids, just some. For example, there are scholarships for Irish kids. There are scholarships for community groups that are composed of all white people.

The black-specific scholarships will fade away when the obvious racial inequity in our society diminishes. Its happening slowly.

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Sat 10/23/10 09:11 PM
After reading the first page of this thread, I agree with Ms Harmony wrt to exactly what information was being presented. It would be nice if a completely unedited version of both recordings were made available to all of us who watched the youtube video.

It might be that the NAACP spokesman was present for and remembered that speech at the rally - and further knew that this was the speech that the blogger was talking about - but if you watch the video carefully, this wasn't shown to be true in the clips.

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Sun 10/24/10 05:42 AM

I've been hearing about, and seeing commercials for, W.E.T. shows all my life. It seems to me that most of the shows on the air are for W.E.T.

The shows that I like deal primarily with that subset of our culture which is mostly white. They cast these shows fairly realistically - and in doing so caste mostly white people.

There is no college fund to help underprivileged white kids etc.


There are scholarships specifically for white kids - its just that they are a little more narrow than that. They aren't open to all white kids, just some. For example, there are scholarships for Irish kids. There are scholarships for community groups that are composed of all white people.

The black-specific scholarships will fade away when the obvious racial inequity in our society diminishes. Its happening slowly.


Ok, please give example for shows that are for 'whites" and why that is so. Also, lets say there is a small community that is almost all white. If a family of any other race moves to that community they have equal opportunity for the scholarship. The same can not be said about black scholarships which are nation wide. They are actually saying that unless you are our race this scholarship is not for you. It is still racist. And yes an Irish one would fit the same bill.

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Sun 10/24/10 06:13 AM


Really? I don't know any networks that try to target white people. Non minority networks cant show biased for white people and against minorities.


its called BET, Univision, and galavision...


Turn on network TV. The non-whites are too far and few between. If normal TV networks put on more shows with minorities, BET, UniVision and GalaVision would disappear.



OMG,,, somebody GETS it,,,,,:banana: :banana: :banana:

Seakolony's photo
Sun 10/24/10 06:20 AM
Think about this though....shouldn't college entrace be based on grades and test scores over nationality a creed......shoudlnt the smartest people be there over race?

msharmony's photo
Sun 10/24/10 06:24 AM

Think about this though....shouldn't college entrace be based on grades and test scores over nationality a creed......shoudlnt the smartest people be there over race?


only in an ideal world where all people had the SAME opportunity at the type of education which makes them the 'smartest' and only if there were also no special preferences for children of alumni, people from CERTAIN communities or schools, students who had taken CERTAIN courses which werent offered to everyone,,,,etc,,,


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Sun 10/24/10 07:07 AM


Really? I don't know any networks that try to target white people. Non minority networks cant show biased for white people and against minorities.


its called BET, Univision, and galavision...


Turn on network TV. The non-whites are too far and few between. If normal TV networks put on more shows with minorities, BET, UniVision and GalaVision would disappear.

If that were, "they" wouldn't be allowed to bash whites like they do on their own channels.

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Sun 10/24/10 08:09 AM
what what

Seakolony's photo
Sun 10/24/10 09:06 AM


Think about this though....shouldn't college entrace be based on grades and test scores over nationality a creed......shoudlnt the smartest people be there over race?


only in an ideal world where all people had the SAME opportunity at the type of education which makes them the 'smartest' and only if there were also no special preferences for children of alumni, people from CERTAIN communities or schools, students who had taken CERTAIN courses which werent offered to everyone,,,,etc,,,



So what your saying is that not everyone has the same ability or resources towards intelligence to go to college....we aren't talking about income but scholships should go to the scores not race.....and I went to a public school...the difference between my education in public school system and others that attended the same schools were my parents.....If we went somewhere I had to write a report on it board games were turned into learning tools.....like scrabble etc.....everyone has free use of libraries and such so learning IMHO is equal if people use resources available to them

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Sun 10/24/10 09:18 AM
Edited by msharmony on Sun 10/24/10 09:19 AM



Think about this though....shouldn't college entrace be based on grades and test scores over nationality a creed......shoudlnt the smartest people be there over race?


only in an ideal world where all people had the SAME opportunity at the type of education which makes them the 'smartest' and only if there were also no special preferences for children of alumni, people from CERTAIN communities or schools, students who had taken CERTAIN courses which werent offered to everyone,,,,etc,,,



So what your saying is that not everyone has the same ability or resources towards intelligence to go to college....we aren't talking about income but scholships should go to the scores not race.....and I went to a public school...the difference between my education in public school system and others that attended the same schools were my parents.....If we went somewhere I had to write a report on it board games were turned into learning tools.....like scrabble etc.....everyone has free use of libraries and such so learning IMHO is equal if people use resources available to them



scholarships can take into account BOTH grades and other areas, they arent exclusive principles

they dont pass out scholarships JUST because someone is black or white or whatever and they likewise dont pass them out JUST because their transcript has a certain GPA

scholarships dont JUST go on grades anymore than employers JUST go on credentials,,,,,there are other things to consider in both cases,,

Chazster's photo
Sun 10/24/10 09:32 AM




Think about this though....shouldn't college entrace be based on grades and test scores over nationality a creed......shoudlnt the smartest people be there over race?


only in an ideal world where all people had the SAME opportunity at the type of education which makes them the 'smartest' and only if there were also no special preferences for children of alumni, people from CERTAIN communities or schools, students who had taken CERTAIN courses which werent offered to everyone,,,,etc,,,



So what your saying is that not everyone has the same ability or resources towards intelligence to go to college....we aren't talking about income but scholships should go to the scores not race.....and I went to a public school...the difference between my education in public school system and others that attended the same schools were my parents.....If we went somewhere I had to write a report on it board games were turned into learning tools.....like scrabble etc.....everyone has free use of libraries and such so learning IMHO is equal if people use resources available to them



scholarships can take into account BOTH grades and other areas, they arent exclusive principles

they dont pass out scholarships JUST because someone is black or white or whatever and they likewise dont pass them out JUST because their transcript has a certain GPA

scholarships dont JUST go on grades anymore than employers JUST go on credentials,,,,,there are other things to consider in both cases,,

Like similar interests. I swear i got my first job after college because I took karate and so did the manager interviewing me. In fact most of our interview time was talking about martial arts. then he was like.. i should ask u some interview questions XD.

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Sun 10/24/10 09:36 AM





Think about this though....shouldn't college entrace be based on grades and test scores over nationality a creed......shoudlnt the smartest people be there over race?


only in an ideal world where all people had the SAME opportunity at the type of education which makes them the 'smartest' and only if there were also no special preferences for children of alumni, people from CERTAIN communities or schools, students who had taken CERTAIN courses which werent offered to everyone,,,,etc,,,



So what your saying is that not everyone has the same ability or resources towards intelligence to go to college....we aren't talking about income but scholships should go to the scores not race.....and I went to a public school...the difference between my education in public school system and others that attended the same schools were my parents.....If we went somewhere I had to write a report on it board games were turned into learning tools.....like scrabble etc.....everyone has free use of libraries and such so learning IMHO is equal if people use resources available to them



scholarships can take into account BOTH grades and other areas, they arent exclusive principles

they dont pass out scholarships JUST because someone is black or white or whatever and they likewise dont pass them out JUST because their transcript has a certain GPA

scholarships dont JUST go on grades anymore than employers JUST go on credentials,,,,,there are other things to consider in both cases,,

Like similar interests. I swear i got my first job after college because I took karate and so did the manager interviewing me. In fact most of our interview time was talking about martial arts. then he was like.. i should ask u some interview questions XD.


yes, if it was all based upon merit and credentials , employers would hardly need to do 'interviews'

I think I have won positions before because I came across as professional and cooperative in the interview

no good having an administrative whiz who hates people or constantly argues,,,

Seakolony's photo
Sun 10/24/10 09:48 AM






Think about this though....shouldn't college entrace be based on grades and test scores over nationality a creed......shoudlnt the smartest people be there over race?


only in an ideal world where all people had the SAME opportunity at the type of education which makes them the 'smartest' and only if there were also no special preferences for children of alumni, people from CERTAIN communities or schools, students who had taken CERTAIN courses which werent offered to everyone,,,,etc,,,



So what your saying is that not everyone has the same ability or resources towards intelligence to go to college....we aren't talking about income but scholships should go to the scores not race.....and I went to a public school...the difference between my education in public school system and others that attended the same schools were my parents.....If we went somewhere I had to write a report on it board games were turned into learning tools.....like scrabble etc.....everyone has free use of libraries and such so learning IMHO is equal if people use resources available to them



scholarships can take into account BOTH grades and other areas, they arent exclusive principles

they dont pass out scholarships JUST because someone is black or white or whatever and they likewise dont pass them out JUST because their transcript has a certain GPA

scholarships dont JUST go on grades anymore than employers JUST go on credentials,,,,,there are other things to consider in both cases,,

Like similar interests. I swear i got my first job after college because I took karate and so did the manager interviewing me. In fact most of our interview time was talking about martial arts. then he was like.. i should ask u some interview questions XD.


yes, if it was all based upon merit and credentials , employers would hardly need to do 'interviews'

I think I have won positions before because I came across as professional and cooperative in the interview

no good having an administrative whiz who hates people or constantly argues,,,

Those things can be taught as well though.....you don't throw away a child because the child has a few character flaws.....you teach the child......

msharmony's photo
Sun 10/24/10 09:50 AM







Think about this though....shouldn't college entrace be based on grades and test scores over nationality a creed......shoudlnt the smartest people be there over race?


only in an ideal world where all people had the SAME opportunity at the type of education which makes them the 'smartest' and only if there were also no special preferences for children of alumni, people from CERTAIN communities or schools, students who had taken CERTAIN courses which werent offered to everyone,,,,etc,,,



So what your saying is that not everyone has the same ability or resources towards intelligence to go to college....we aren't talking about income but scholships should go to the scores not race.....and I went to a public school...the difference between my education in public school system and others that attended the same schools were my parents.....If we went somewhere I had to write a report on it board games were turned into learning tools.....like scrabble etc.....everyone has free use of libraries and such so learning IMHO is equal if people use resources available to them



scholarships can take into account BOTH grades and other areas, they arent exclusive principles

they dont pass out scholarships JUST because someone is black or white or whatever and they likewise dont pass them out JUST because their transcript has a certain GPA

scholarships dont JUST go on grades anymore than employers JUST go on credentials,,,,,there are other things to consider in both cases,,

Like similar interests. I swear i got my first job after college because I took karate and so did the manager interviewing me. In fact most of our interview time was talking about martial arts. then he was like.. i should ask u some interview questions XD.


yes, if it was all based upon merit and credentials , employers would hardly need to do 'interviews'

I think I have won positions before because I came across as professional and cooperative in the interview

no good having an administrative whiz who hates people or constantly argues,,,

Those things can be taught as well though.....you don't throw away a child because the child has a few character flaws.....you teach the child......


I agree, but employers dont tend to want to have to teach someone if they can find those who already have been taught,,,

no photo
Sun 10/24/10 10:07 AM

Ok, please give example for shows that are for 'whites" and why that is so.



I'm not sure what you mean by: having a show that is 'for' whites. I'm saying that the majority of shows that I'm aware of (as a white person) deal with subsets of our culture which are dominated by whites, and that most of the characters are correspondingly caste as white.

Anyone know the racial composition of the FBI and the CIA? I'm pretty sure its even whiter than the US society as a whole, and most (not all) FBI/CIA agents depicted on TV are white. Paramedics? Mostly white, maybe? Sure looks that way on TV. Medical doctors? PhDs?

Examples? Really? You can't see this for yourself? Okay, so I just pulled up Hulu and looked at the 'most popular' tab. All of the shows on the first page are caste mostly with whites. I'm not saying there is anything wrong with this. I just think this fact ought to be acknowledged when people ***** about BET. I'll paste those shows in at the end of this comment.

Also, lets say there is a small community that is almost all white. If a family of any other race moves to that community they have equal opportunity for the scholarship.


Minor detail here, 'community' does not only mean 'a group of people who live in the same area' - and that is not how I used the term. I belong to a community of people by virtue of my employment, another community by virtue of one of my hobbies, and a third community by virtue of another hobby. My actual neighborhood (sadly) is the least important of the communities I belong to. So we can't all enter into any community we want simply by moving.

Its true that non-whites can gain access to some of the white-dominated (beyond geographic) communities, but there's a whole spectrum here. Some communities are extremely difficult for non-whites to get into. As someone who leans libertarian, I think this is as it should be. If a group of white people want to be idiotically exclusionary, they should be allowed to be so. But we shouldn't deny that this happens; a fairly visible example of this is the country club.


The same can not be said about black scholarships which are nation wide. They are actually saying that unless you are our race this scholarship is not for you.


Yes, yes, yes - I hope my earlier comments made clear that I agree. I am not equating the existing of white-only scholarships with black-specific scholarships. These are very different things. The white-only scholarships are incidentally white only, and categorically not accessible to many whites. This is one of many reasons that I'm sympathetic to how pissed off poor white people are about the efforts to address racial inequality. Poor white people are getting shafted. They are excluded from black scholarships, and excluded from many white scholarships.

Having black-specific scholarships is really obviously racist, and fans the flames of resentment, especially among poor whites. I'm not saying they are bad thing, just acknowledging a quality and a consequence.


It is still racist. And yes an Irish one would fit the same bill.


I agree that both are racist - but remember, government funds are generally not used for any of these scholarships. Who are you to tell a group of Irish people they can't help put another Irish person through college? It makes as much sense to me as me telling you that you can't put your own (hypothetical) daughter through college.

If a group of black people want to put a young, poor, talented black person through college - more power to them.



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