those things AFFECT ALL RACES...Jobs creation bills is a black issue? really? with 2.7million unemployed in california and White CEO's having to deliver pizza for cash?...didn't realize the only ones out of work were black people.

I didnt say ONLY, I said disparately

black americans remain unemployed at a rate that is twice that of white americans, which makes it an issue that speaks to the black community without making it EXCLUSIVE to the black community,,,,and jobs is an issue that EVERYONE can relate to

One reason the coddled unemployment rate is higher is unemployment is easier than working.

of course, the one race must just be lazier than the other argument,,lol


whatever works for ya,,,

But seriously.
Who's responsible for them not having work and why do they need that "special" status?
Seems like a victim and seperationist attitude.

seems like addressing the facts to me
The Bureau of Labor Statistics calculates seasonally adjusted unemployment rates by race and ethnicity. We found that in June 2010, the white unemployment rate was 8.6 percent. The black unemployment rate was 15.4 percent, and the Hispanic/Latino rate was 12.4.


http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2010/jul/27/marc-morial/marc-morial-correct-unemployment-rates-whites-blac/


there is no 'special status' there is just facts and history and trends,,,

being aware
doesnt make me a victim though

Willing,

What are you really saying? That black people are coddle, and because they are coddled they have a higher unemployment rate?

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It creates such a mess when people (not you) mistake/confuse the issue of genetic race with cultural race identity.

I would expect that white people in the rural south have a different kind of work ethic than white people in los angeles. I'm not saying which is 'better', just that they are different - because many of our personal qualities are influenced by the people around us.

Trying to compare white people as a whole to black people as a whole seems pointless to me, but I know first hand that there are some very large communities of poor people - both black and white - who embrace a culture of laziness, who embrace an entitlement attitude, who end putting a considerable amount of effort into avoiding work and scamming the government.

Like the NAACP.
This topic needs to fade into ancient history.

Yeah that's over the top......I work in health and benefits and I would say that most people that come through the door want to work and feel guilty about having to be in whatever situation they may need help with....most come through the door looking for a hand up........as for the lazy I would say they are about equal race wise

I'm assuming this is in Maryland? I do think this varies a good bit with the region.

Actually I work in Delaware but you can tell which ones make things up and have excuses compared to those trying.........or that have letters show up and the places they are working always disappear or they pretend to be the employers sometimes it takes a while to catch em sometimes

"I look at the floor and I notice it needs sweeping..." Egads, this story is a non story, the NAACP has already responded and MSM is looking away. Why? Because it's so lame a story...it's only on the RW buzzasphere. More blaming "the other side" as being as NUTS as the racist T-bagger morons that shill this site. Not working demonizing people as being as worthless as themselves...no offense intended to the people who have to fool themselves into thinking they are real Americans...of course.

I guess everyone can see the polar opposite extreme views here..........this is ridiculous the way this battle goes.....in the media and in the forums and a middle ground waste of breath.......

Could that have anything to do with 33% of white americans holding a bachelors degree and only 20% of blacks. That could be part of the reason.

I don't want to stick my hand up too far into this, as it kind of got off original topic.. but
I worked for a pest control company for many years that had the (insert city name)Housing Authority contract. There were sixteen developments, just over 2,000 units.
There were only two families that had white skin.
Take that as you will.
Forgot to mention..this is when unemployment in the county was below 6% I suppose they were the 6%'ers

and given that this laziness is not race specific, it still would not account for a NATIONAL disparity of two to one between the races,,,

one would like to assume but in reality, even ACCOUNTING for comparisons between degreed applicants, even in studies where resumes with equal credentials were sent out,, guess who was disproportionately interviewd and hired? (hint, not minorities)

as I said, if it was JUST about the credentials, employees would not need to interview

That is a steaming load.

If you have several candidates for a job and all are equally qualified then comes how they present themselves.

Now if you got two black men and one comes off like a rapping ghetto coon and the other comes off as a seriously well dressed professional who do you think will get hired 98.9% of the time between just those two? Now for added flavor between the professional black gentleman and a white gentleman the black man has better training but the white man has done Internships and volunteered time? Unless he is an anti social scum bag more often than not the employers will go for the guy who Interned. Why? He is already familiar with the job! But if both men had interned the black gentleman would win hands down by miles becasue of his training and Internship.


WAY too many people black and white got bad attitudes and want everything their way and everything has to be handed to them. The reason we have so many poor people out there is they are not motivated enough to do the right thing in life most of the time. They think government is there to save them. it goes like this, if you are in a boat and it leaks you had better start bailing it out yourself becasue chances are others will not do it for you. once people get on hand outs they become dependent on them. I would say about 1/3 of the people who get on welfare really work hard to get off of it. Another 1/3 ride it till the end. The rest, they will do ANYTHING to milk the system more.


Welfare as a system has failed us utterly and needs to be revamped seriously hard.

On top of that this whole Victocrat ideology is so much so the problem more than just a symptom. People make money and livelihoods constantly dragging old issues that are more like anachronisms into the lime light as new topics! And the media plays right into the sensationalism of BS! Once upon a time the Black Panthers were a serious civil rights group. Now they are nothing more than borderline terrorists!

So now what? Soft cell racism under the guise of equality? Geah!

I think there is something going on here, which is difficult to state clearly and succinctly without seeming to imply something thats not true. It isn't about race (genetics). Its not about race=culture in an absolute, complete sense. It isn't about 'the black community' or 'the white community' because - taken nationally - there are more differences within those communities then there are between them.


However, there are smaller communities....like the poor white people in rural Appalachia, or the poor inner city black people in Detroit; or the people who go to a particular church, that might be 60/40; or a community of mexican-americans in suburban san diego; or.... Within these smaller communities we find shared values. There are both black communities and white communities in which there is a 'shared value' of 'its better to lie to the government to maximize your government check than it is to get a job'.


This isn't exclusively a racial issue, but to some extent it is a racial issue of sorts, as we do have groups of people who identify with each other, communicate with each other, according to race. We have both black groups and white groups who do this - but how large are these communities within the whole population of the respective races?

I think it would be foolish to deny that straight anti-black racism by the people (white or otherwise) who make hiring decisions, citing decisions, court verdicts, etc etc plays a role in the disparity we have. But I think it would also be foolish to completely deny that this issue of 'community values' plays a role, too. It doesn't matter that there are groups of black people who successfully teach their kids to have a good work ethic, and groups of white people whose kids grow up to be addicts, drop outs, criminals and/or scammers on the dole. I think a fair question is: how large is the community of black people who encourage each other to scam the government rather than work?

I've worked for a company that only hire black people to work in certain positions, not for any of the higher paying positions, and not for any of the positions that would lead to higher paying positions.

They basically always bring on some temps, and moved them from temp to permanent if they proved themselves on the job. The communication, training, and documentation there was so disfunctional that most people simply couldn't survive on the job without a lot of help and support from other co-workers when they first started. If a black person happened to get one of those temp positions that leads to a higher paying job, as far as I could see, he simply didn't get the support from other staff that the white people did. This wasn't a case of the hiring person making a decision based on race, yet racism played a significant role in who got the job.