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Topic: NAACP gets owned by Tea Party over Rascism
Chazster's photo
Tue 10/26/10 01:24 AM
Sorry I can't quote because I am on my phone. You say disproportionately interviewed? Last time I checked your race isn't on your resume. You also need to look where the unemployment is location wise, unemoyment of degree holders vs nondegree holders, and the fields that dominate unemployment.

There can be a lot of reasons why a race would have lower unemployment other than just because of their actual race.

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Tue 10/26/10 01:38 AM

Sorry I can't quote because I am on my phone. You say disproportionately interviewed? Last time I checked your race isn't on your resume.


It looks like you were responding to Ms. Harmony comment; I agree with her here. Bias can easily lead to people with certain ethnic backgrounds being disproportionately interviewed. Your race may not be on your resume, but your name is. Henry Adams or Jerome Jackson? Your address is, too. Sucks if your town has a 'black side' and you live in it. One can sometimes tell a person's race from the timbre of their voice, and sometimes by their enunciation - if it happens you spoke to anyone on the phone before they chose who to interview.


You also need to look where the unemployment is location wise, unemoyment of degree holders vs nondegree holders, and the fields that dominate unemployment.

There can be a lot of reasons why a race would have lower unemployment other than just because of their actual race.


I agree that the issue is complex and multifaceted.

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Tue 10/26/10 01:48 AM


Sorry I can't quote because I am on my phone. You say disproportionately interviewed? Last time I checked your race isn't on your resume.


It looks like you were responding to Ms. Harmony comment; I agree with her here. Bias can easily lead to people with certain ethnic backgrounds being disproportionately interviewed. Your race may not be on your resume, but your name is. Henry Adams or Jerome Jackson? Your address is, too. Sucks if your town has a 'black side' and you live in it. One can sometimes tell a person's race from the timbre of their voice, and sometimes by their enunciation - if it happens you spoke to anyone on the phone before they chose who to interview.


You also need to look where the unemployment is location wise, unemoyment of degree holders vs nondegree holders, and the fields that dominate unemployment.

There can be a lot of reasons why a race would have lower unemployment other than just because of their actual race.

I agree that the issue is complex and multifaceted.

I actually live in a rural area but do pc apps for the whole state and you can definitely tell a difference in attitude.........when speakinf to some from the city they are thankful that I am nice .....and then you get some that make you understand why some of the social workers aren't so nice up there as compared to the southern region of the state......but then we deal with a different type of people like farm workers and service industry.......

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Tue 10/26/10 04:46 AM
When I was living in Louisiana I got interviewed in New York. When I was in New York I got interviewed in Maryland and Texas. They didn't know by where I lived and I wouldn't think they knew by my Cajun last name. But I was never geographically bias with my job searching so it's easier to avoid that stuff.

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Tue 10/26/10 10:05 AM

Sorry I can't quote because I am on my phone. You say disproportionately interviewed? Last time I checked your race isn't on your resume. You also need to look where the unemployment is location wise, unemoyment of degree holders vs nondegree holders, and the fields that dominate unemployment.

There can be a lot of reasons why a race would have lower unemployment other than just because of their actual race.



your NAME is on your resume, as well as where you live

these things are INDICATORS of what race an employer might ASSUME you to be



isaac_dede's photo
Tue 10/26/10 10:28 AM


Sorry I can't quote because I am on my phone. You say disproportionately interviewed? Last time I checked your race isn't on your resume. You also need to look where the unemployment is location wise, unemoyment of degree holders vs nondegree holders, and the fields that dominate unemployment.

There can be a lot of reasons why a race would have lower unemployment other than just because of their actual race.



your NAME is on your resume, as well as where you live

these things are INDICATORS of what race an employer might ASSUME you to be


and if the employeres ASSUMES that you are one race other than some ASSUME they didn't get the job BASED on their race...when in reality it probably had nothing to do with it.....but just because they DIDN'T get the job they ASSUME it's because 'the man' is holding them down. gimme a break

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Tue 10/26/10 10:36 AM



Sorry I can't quote because I am on my phone. You say disproportionately interviewed? Last time I checked your race isn't on your resume. You also need to look where the unemployment is location wise, unemoyment of degree holders vs nondegree holders, and the fields that dominate unemployment.

There can be a lot of reasons why a race would have lower unemployment other than just because of their actual race.



your NAME is on your resume, as well as where you live

these things are INDICATORS of what race an employer might ASSUME you to be


and if the employeres ASSUMES that you are one race other than some ASSUME they didn't get the job BASED on their race...when in reality it probably had nothing to do with it.....but just because they DIDN'T get the job they ASSUME it's because 'the man' is holding them down. gimme a break



people ASSUME many things, sometimes for good reason

some assume that its anything BUT race and some assume it cant be anything but RACE

then others aknowledge that its many things INCLUDING RACE, and that its a matter of RACE far more often than it should be


from:

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/09/29/national/main575685.shtml

The University of Chicago's Marianne Bertrand and MIT's Sendhil Mullainathan, however, appeared to find that a black-sounding name can be an impediment, in another recent NBER paper entitled "Are Emily and Greg More Employable Than Lakisha and Jamal?"

The authors took the content of 500 real resumes off online job boards and then evaluated them, as objectively as possible, for quality, using such factors as education and experience. Then they replaced the names with made-up names picked to "sound white" or "sound black" and responded to 1,300 job ads in The Boston Globe and Chicago Tribune last year.

Previous studies have examined how employers responded to similarly qualified applicants they meet in person, but this experiment attempted to isolate the response to the name itself.

White names got about one callback per 10 resumes; black names got one per 15. Carries and Kristens had call-back rates of more than 13 percent, but Aisha, Keisha and Tamika got 2.2 percent, 3.8 percent and 5.4 percent, respectively. And having a higher quality resume, featuring more skills and experience, made a white-sounding name 30 percent more likely to elicit a callback, but only 9 percent more likely for black-sounding names.


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Tue 10/26/10 10:46 AM
I think it's kinda funny you saying that the naacp(a black organization) gets OWNED by the tea baggers(a predominantly older white man party)laugh
where stupidity reigns over knowledge and common sense

msharmony's photo
Tue 10/26/10 10:55 AM
neither party is exclusively one race

but their inception and core causes can attract racists,,

well, any organization in america with large numbers will have SOME racists

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Tue 10/26/10 12:22 PM

and if the employeres ASSUMES that you are one race other than some ASSUME they didn't get the job BASED on their race...when in reality it probably had nothing to do with it.....but just because they DIDN'T get the job they ASSUME it's because 'the man' is holding them down. gimme a break


I'm not sure what you are really saying here. I agree that some black people go around thinking "I didn't get that job because I'm black" and are often completely wrong. That doesn't change the fact that sometimes black people don't get the job exactly because they are black.

Ms Harmony says "its a matter of RACE far more often than it should be", and she's right, because it should basically never be a matter of race. The fact that it happens at all is a problem.



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