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Topic: NAACP gets owned by Tea Party over Rascism
msharmony's photo
Mon 10/25/10 08:17 AM



NAACP promotes racism by not condemning Afrocentrism.

The Inconvenient Truth - Part 1: Black Racism
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=em55RSIS--s&feature=related



youtube, the haven of lazy thinkers


from miriam webster dictionary
institutional : of or relating to an institution <institutional knowledge>
2: characteristic of or appropriate to institutions <bland institutional cooking> <institutional green walls>

racism : : a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race
2: racial prejudice or discrimination



whether stokely or miriam can put two and two together to make four is irrelevant to the fact that it is still four



and what any of that has to do with the NAACP is still unclear,,,,laugh laugh laugh


Just happens, many of those lazy thinkers are the negro kids who the radical blackkk are playing to.



lazy thinking has no exclusive race,,,

msharmony's photo
Mon 10/25/10 08:18 AM


Poor and destitute causcasians were also sold into slavery right next to stolen african americans.........caucasians were also kidnapped from the streets of poor beggar neighborhoods and sold also into slavery......just so you know........it was the wealthy not poor caucasians and it was not all caucasians that made the african american a slave and subservient.......there were many caucasian that worked on the behalf of slavery and servitude abolishment.......you do realize this but none of this gets brought forth or even praised those that worked on behalf of others to create equality as well


And not to open a whole can of worms, but African slaves weren't caught by Europeans, they were bought. Africans sold other Africans into slavery for sugar and rum initially and later for money. So if living whites are partially to blame for slavery, blacks are also to blame.



again, the context of this conversation (and any conversations I try to have about civil rights) is AMERICAN history and how people have been treated and cast HERE IN AMERICA


Chazster's photo
Mon 10/25/10 08:19 AM



gays have not had economic or educational impairments, no special needs there

minorities have had economic, educational, AND social impairment, so there are special needs to be addressed there
minorities have


Then right the wrongs.

How about school choice? How about making it easier to start a business? How about lowering taxes? How about decoupling employment and health / life insurance? How about allowing health insurance companies to sell across state lines? How about legalizing drugs, to eliminate the illegal drug trade, which would lower crime rates, increase tax revenue and create jobs? Those are policies that would apply to everyone equally, but have the most beneficial impact on minorities.

It's not right to say "Laws allowed white people to treat black people badly, so we'll make new laws for the government to treat white people badly to make everything fair".



who is condoning treating anyone 'badly'?

this is a bigger issue than mere daily niceties or neighborliness, these issues are at an INSTITUTIONAL level, not a personal one

as to the rest, NAACP supports school choice and lower taxes(although we have pretty low taxes already as a nation compared to most western nations) and business initiatives and less disparate drug sentencing

there isnt an issue NAACP supports that is JUST about blacks, NAACP supports equality BUT many of the issues DISPROPORTIONATELY affect black people

Pretty low taxes. LOLz. Know what I paid in the US? about 28%. Know what I pay now? about 3%

Seakolony's photo
Mon 10/25/10 08:21 AM



Poor and destitute causcasians were also sold into slavery right next to stolen african americans.........caucasians were also kidnapped from the streets of poor beggar neighborhoods and sold also into slavery......just so you know........it was the wealthy not poor caucasians and it was not all caucasians that made the african american a slave and subservient.......there were many caucasian that worked on the behalf of slavery and servitude abolishment.......you do realize this but none of this gets brought forth or even praised those that worked on behalf of others to create equality as well


And not to open a whole can of worms, but African slaves weren't caught by Europeans, they were bought. Africans sold other Africans into slavery for sugar and rum initially and later for money. So if living whites are partially to blame for slavery, blacks are also to blame.



again, the context of this conversation (and any conversations I try to have about civil rights) is AMERICAN history and how people have been treated and cast HERE IN AMERICA



You brought up the fact they were brought here against there will and forced to be Americans

msharmony's photo
Mon 10/25/10 08:24 AM











Africans were not the only people forced to this country against their will.
How can you say others don't know what this is like? I would argue that the majority of people alive today in this country no nothing of what it was like to be a slave. Just because your ancestors suffered through something horrible doesn't mean you know better than someone else.


please tell me what other people were forced here against their will and made subserviant and unequal for GENERATIONS? (1619 when slaves first arrived to 1865 when the 13th amendment was passed AND until 1965 when the last of the Jim Crow Laws were overruled)

The jews were in concentrations camp and killed and tortured as no other race inhistory and forced into subservience, vikings raped pillaged and murdered other races for financial gain, the asian, the italian, the irish were treated little better than dogs when they arrived......and the American Indian were treated extremely bad by the whites stealing taking everything they owned tarred and feathered hung and dragged bnehind horses as well, show me one race that was treated nicely.....



I was not referring to WORLD HISTORY, I was referring to AMERICAN HISTORY and how it has affected groups in AMERICA, so this doesnt answer the question,

which was about MUCH more than whether people were treated 'nicely'

it was about what other GROUP was forced here against their will AND stripped of their culture and their history, AND treated (under the LAWS OF THE LAND) as subserviant americans for GENERATIONS....



The key word being history. Either way they can still only ask to be treated special or equally not both.


the request has always been to be treated EQUALLY, but what has been delivered has been so UNEQUAL as to need SPECIAL ATTENTION in correcting,,,


If I have three children and I feed two and give the third scraps,, the time will come when , to have EQUAL health, that third child will need some special attention

Except many black people today know nothing about being a slave. So that analogy doesnt fit.


it does fit, people miss the point about the LEGACY of slavery and they overlook that subservant treatment didnt end with slavery but not until a hundred years later after JIM CROW laws,,laws which affected my PARENTS (not some ancient descendants) and therefore affect me by their LEGACY

From the abolishment of slavery times those other races were treated in subservient manners along with african americans and some of them were caucasians......these other races were treated with the same contempts beatings and killings as african americans......which there should not be any designation but American in the US IMO



show me the laws,,,condoning and enforcing substandard status for these 'other races' you keep referring to,,,

I said they were treated just as poorly and the only laws were in the South not in the North the North mostly just did not care until it became important top win a war but there were laws restricting the Indians and they were made subservient if they did not obey those laws, were they not? What about Custer and the last stand? Indian against white man in war were skinned and skins brought home as souvineers..........no less discusting than what happened to the African American stolen from there families raped beaten and killed by virtue of their culture........they were stolen and kept as slaves and made jokes of in wealth caucasian homes......dragged behind horses beaten when they could not keep up........tell me what about this is any prettier.........children stolen from reservations attacks many atrocities......and all ethnicities protected under the civils rights protection acts suffered quite terribly.....



what is different is there was not a generational institutional POLICY of making these groups subservant, the difference is these groups were permitted and able to maintain their CULTURE and in effect maintain a NETWORK of support, the difference is these groups can also blend in due to their skin color, the difference is atrocities during times of 'conquer' or 'revolution' vs atrocities sanctioned by GOVERNMENT for CENTURIES,,,,

are the specific actions any less reprehensible against one group than against another? NO,

but does it have more impact when it lasts for centuries at the BEQUEST of the GOVERNMENT,,yes

msharmony's photo
Mon 10/25/10 08:26 AM




gays have not had economic or educational impairments, no special needs there

minorities have had economic, educational, AND social impairment, so there are special needs to be addressed there
minorities have


Then right the wrongs.

How about school choice? How about making it easier to start a business? How about lowering taxes? How about decoupling employment and health / life insurance? How about allowing health insurance companies to sell across state lines? How about legalizing drugs, to eliminate the illegal drug trade, which would lower crime rates, increase tax revenue and create jobs? Those are policies that would apply to everyone equally, but have the most beneficial impact on minorities.

It's not right to say "Laws allowed white people to treat black people badly, so we'll make new laws for the government to treat white people badly to make everything fair".



who is condoning treating anyone 'badly'?

this is a bigger issue than mere daily niceties or neighborliness, these issues are at an INSTITUTIONAL level, not a personal one

as to the rest, NAACP supports school choice and lower taxes(although we have pretty low taxes already as a nation compared to most western nations) and business initiatives and less disparate drug sentencing

there isnt an issue NAACP supports that is JUST about blacks, NAACP supports equality BUT many of the issues DISPROPORTIONATELY affect black people

Pretty low taxes. LOLz. Know what I paid in the US? about 28%. Know what I pay now? about 3%


http://www.businesspundit.com/12-countries-with-the-highest-lowest-tax-rates/

Seakolony's photo
Mon 10/25/10 08:27 AM












Africans were not the only people forced to this country against their will.
How can you say others don't know what this is like? I would argue that the majority of people alive today in this country no nothing of what it was like to be a slave. Just because your ancestors suffered through something horrible doesn't mean you know better than someone else.


please tell me what other people were forced here against their will and made subserviant and unequal for GENERATIONS? (1619 when slaves first arrived to 1865 when the 13th amendment was passed AND until 1965 when the last of the Jim Crow Laws were overruled)

The jews were in concentrations camp and killed and tortured as no other race inhistory and forced into subservience, vikings raped pillaged and murdered other races for financial gain, the asian, the italian, the irish were treated little better than dogs when they arrived......and the American Indian were treated extremely bad by the whites stealing taking everything they owned tarred and feathered hung and dragged bnehind horses as well, show me one race that was treated nicely.....



I was not referring to WORLD HISTORY, I was referring to AMERICAN HISTORY and how it has affected groups in AMERICA, so this doesnt answer the question,

which was about MUCH more than whether people were treated 'nicely'

it was about what other GROUP was forced here against their will AND stripped of their culture and their history, AND treated (under the LAWS OF THE LAND) as subserviant americans for GENERATIONS....



The key word being history. Either way they can still only ask to be treated special or equally not both.


the request has always been to be treated EQUALLY, but what has been delivered has been so UNEQUAL as to need SPECIAL ATTENTION in correcting,,,


If I have three children and I feed two and give the third scraps,, the time will come when , to have EQUAL health, that third child will need some special attention

Except many black people today know nothing about being a slave. So that analogy doesnt fit.


it does fit, people miss the point about the LEGACY of slavery and they overlook that subservant treatment didnt end with slavery but not until a hundred years later after JIM CROW laws,,laws which affected my PARENTS (not some ancient descendants) and therefore affect me by their LEGACY

From the abolishment of slavery times those other races were treated in subservient manners along with african americans and some of them were caucasians......these other races were treated with the same contempts beatings and killings as african americans......which there should not be any designation but American in the US IMO



show me the laws,,,condoning and enforcing substandard status for these 'other races' you keep referring to,,,

I said they were treated just as poorly and the only laws were in the South not in the North the North mostly just did not care until it became important top win a war but there were laws restricting the Indians and they were made subservient if they did not obey those laws, were they not? What about Custer and the last stand? Indian against white man in war were skinned and skins brought home as souvineers..........no less discusting than what happened to the African American stolen from there families raped beaten and killed by virtue of their culture........they were stolen and kept as slaves and made jokes of in wealth caucasian homes......dragged behind horses beaten when they could not keep up........tell me what about this is any prettier.........children stolen from reservations attacks many atrocities......and all ethnicities protected under the civils rights protection acts suffered quite terribly.....



what is different is there was not a generational institutional POLICY of making these groups subservant, the difference is these groups were permitted and able to maintain their CULTURE and in effect maintain a NETWORK of support, the difference is these groups can also blend in due to their skin color, the difference is atrocities during times of 'conquer' or 'revolution' vs atrocities sanctioned by GOVERNMENT for CENTURIES,,,,

are the specific actions any less reprehensible against one group than against another? NO,

but does it have more impact when it lasts for centuries at the BEQUEST of the GOVERNMENT,,yes

No one has been held from seeking their cultures since that time not you and not our parents........

msharmony's photo
Mon 10/25/10 08:27 AM




Poor and destitute causcasians were also sold into slavery right next to stolen african americans.........caucasians were also kidnapped from the streets of poor beggar neighborhoods and sold also into slavery......just so you know........it was the wealthy not poor caucasians and it was not all caucasians that made the african american a slave and subservient.......there were many caucasian that worked on the behalf of slavery and servitude abolishment.......you do realize this but none of this gets brought forth or even praised those that worked on behalf of others to create equality as well


And not to open a whole can of worms, but African slaves weren't caught by Europeans, they were bought. Africans sold other Africans into slavery for sugar and rum initially and later for money. So if living whites are partially to blame for slavery, blacks are also to blame.



again, the context of this conversation (and any conversations I try to have about civil rights) is AMERICAN history and how people have been treated and cast HERE IN AMERICA



You brought up the fact they were brought here against there will and forced to be Americans



they were

msharmony's photo
Mon 10/25/10 08:29 AM
Edited by msharmony on Mon 10/25/10 08:31 AM













Africans were not the only people forced to this country against their will.
How can you say others don't know what this is like? I would argue that the majority of people alive today in this country no nothing of what it was like to be a slave. Just because your ancestors suffered through something horrible doesn't mean you know better than someone else.


please tell me what other people were forced here against their will and made subserviant and unequal for GENERATIONS? (1619 when slaves first arrived to 1865 when the 13th amendment was passed AND until 1965 when the last of the Jim Crow Laws were overruled)

The jews were in concentrations camp and killed and tortured as no other race inhistory and forced into subservience, vikings raped pillaged and murdered other races for financial gain, the asian, the italian, the irish were treated little better than dogs when they arrived......and the American Indian were treated extremely bad by the whites stealing taking everything they owned tarred and feathered hung and dragged bnehind horses as well, show me one race that was treated nicely.....



I was not referring to WORLD HISTORY, I was referring to AMERICAN HISTORY and how it has affected groups in AMERICA, so this doesnt answer the question,

which was about MUCH more than whether people were treated 'nicely'

it was about what other GROUP was forced here against their will AND stripped of their culture and their history, AND treated (under the LAWS OF THE LAND) as subserviant americans for GENERATIONS....



The key word being history. Either way they can still only ask to be treated special or equally not both.


the request has always been to be treated EQUALLY, but what has been delivered has been so UNEQUAL as to need SPECIAL ATTENTION in correcting,,,


If I have three children and I feed two and give the third scraps,, the time will come when , to have EQUAL health, that third child will need some special attention

Except many black people today know nothing about being a slave. So that analogy doesnt fit.


it does fit, people miss the point about the LEGACY of slavery and they overlook that subservant treatment didnt end with slavery but not until a hundred years later after JIM CROW laws,,laws which affected my PARENTS (not some ancient descendants) and therefore affect me by their LEGACY

From the abolishment of slavery times those other races were treated in subservient manners along with african americans and some of them were caucasians......these other races were treated with the same contempts beatings and killings as african americans......which there should not be any designation but American in the US IMO



show me the laws,,,condoning and enforcing substandard status for these 'other races' you keep referring to,,,

I said they were treated just as poorly and the only laws were in the South not in the North the North mostly just did not care until it became important top win a war but there were laws restricting the Indians and they were made subservient if they did not obey those laws, were they not? What about Custer and the last stand? Indian against white man in war were skinned and skins brought home as souvineers..........no less discusting than what happened to the African American stolen from there families raped beaten and killed by virtue of their culture........they were stolen and kept as slaves and made jokes of in wealth caucasian homes......dragged behind horses beaten when they could not keep up........tell me what about this is any prettier.........children stolen from reservations attacks many atrocities......and all ethnicities protected under the civils rights protection acts suffered quite terribly.....



what is different is there was not a generational institutional POLICY of making these groups subservant, the difference is these groups were permitted and able to maintain their CULTURE and in effect maintain a NETWORK of support, the difference is these groups can also blend in due to their skin color, the difference is atrocities during times of 'conquer' or 'revolution' vs atrocities sanctioned by GOVERNMENT for CENTURIES,,,,

are the specific actions any less reprehensible against one group than against another? NO,

but does it have more impact when it lasts for centuries at the BEQUEST of the GOVERNMENT,,yes

No one has been held from seeking their cultures since that time not you and not our parents........


lol, please point me to the records on who my ancestors were before the slave trade? Id love to know where to find them. SLAVES Were brought here and FORBIDDEN to have further contact with their homeland or their relatives because they were merely PROPERTY, they were forbidden to speak their language or use their names

so tell me, under those conditions, how their descendants could ever be expected to know where THEY Came from? or what their culture had been before the americas?


the only culture I know is AMerican of AFrican descent, but AFrica is a CONTINENT, with many countries and cultures within it

yet I have no way to say which country or culture I can claim, unlike I would be able to do if I was IRISH or FRENCH or JAPANESE,,,

no photo
Mon 10/25/10 08:31 AM

who is condoning treating anyone 'badly'?


Property is part of a person. Advocating taking tax money from one group to help another group is treating the first group badly.


this is a bigger issue than mere daily niceties or neighborliness, these issues are at an INSTITUTIONAL level, not a personal one


You are actually claiming that institutional racism still exists? Do you want to back that up?


as to the rest, NAACP supports school choice and lower taxes(although we have pretty low taxes already as a nation compared to most western nations) and business initiatives and less disparate drug sentencing


They definitely don't support school choice. "business initiatives" always favor one group over another. Lowering taxes and startup costs for businesses would be a fair and logical step to economic growth in all sectors. I can't confirm or deny that they support lower taxes, could you supply a link?

isaac_dede's photo
Mon 10/25/10 08:40 AM
if your routing for one team, you're automatically against the other team.


The organization itself promotes racism just based on their premise...

Seakolony's photo
Mon 10/25/10 08:46 AM














Africans were not the only people forced to this country against their will.
How can you say others don't know what this is like? I would argue that the majority of people alive today in this country no nothing of what it was like to be a slave. Just because your ancestors suffered through something horrible doesn't mean you know better than someone else.


please tell me what other people were forced here against their will and made subserviant and unequal for GENERATIONS? (1619 when slaves first arrived to 1865 when the 13th amendment was passed AND until 1965 when the last of the Jim Crow Laws were overruled)

The jews were in concentrations camp and killed and tortured as no other race inhistory and forced into subservience, vikings raped pillaged and murdered other races for financial gain, the asian, the italian, the irish were treated little better than dogs when they arrived......and the American Indian were treated extremely bad by the whites stealing taking everything they owned tarred and feathered hung and dragged bnehind horses as well, show me one race that was treated nicely.....



I was not referring to WORLD HISTORY, I was referring to AMERICAN HISTORY and how it has affected groups in AMERICA, so this doesnt answer the question,

which was about MUCH more than whether people were treated 'nicely'

it was about what other GROUP was forced here against their will AND stripped of their culture and their history, AND treated (under the LAWS OF THE LAND) as subserviant americans for GENERATIONS....



The key word being history. Either way they can still only ask to be treated special or equally not both.


the request has always been to be treated EQUALLY, but what has been delivered has been so UNEQUAL as to need SPECIAL ATTENTION in correcting,,,


If I have three children and I feed two and give the third scraps,, the time will come when , to have EQUAL health, that third child will need some special attention

Except many black people today know nothing about being a slave. So that analogy doesnt fit.


it does fit, people miss the point about the LEGACY of slavery and they overlook that subservant treatment didnt end with slavery but not until a hundred years later after JIM CROW laws,,laws which affected my PARENTS (not some ancient descendants) and therefore affect me by their LEGACY

From the abolishment of slavery times those other races were treated in subservient manners along with african americans and some of them were caucasians......these other races were treated with the same contempts beatings and killings as african americans......which there should not be any designation but American in the US IMO



show me the laws,,,condoning and enforcing substandard status for these 'other races' you keep referring to,,,

I said they were treated just as poorly and the only laws were in the South not in the North the North mostly just did not care until it became important top win a war but there were laws restricting the Indians and they were made subservient if they did not obey those laws, were they not? What about Custer and the last stand? Indian against white man in war were skinned and skins brought home as souvineers..........no less discusting than what happened to the African American stolen from there families raped beaten and killed by virtue of their culture........they were stolen and kept as slaves and made jokes of in wealth caucasian homes......dragged behind horses beaten when they could not keep up........tell me what about this is any prettier.........children stolen from reservations attacks many atrocities......and all ethnicities protected under the civils rights protection acts suffered quite terribly.....



what is different is there was not a generational institutional POLICY of making these groups subservant, the difference is these groups were permitted and able to maintain their CULTURE and in effect maintain a NETWORK of support, the difference is these groups can also blend in due to their skin color, the difference is atrocities during times of 'conquer' or 'revolution' vs atrocities sanctioned by GOVERNMENT for CENTURIES,,,,

are the specific actions any less reprehensible against one group than against another? NO,

but does it have more impact when it lasts for centuries at the BEQUEST of the GOVERNMENT,,yes

No one has been held from seeking their cultures since that time not you and not our parents........


lol, please point me to the records on who my ancestors were before the slave trade? Id love to know where to find them. SLAVES Were brought here and FORBIDDEN to have further contact with their homeland or their relatives because they were merely PROPERTY, they were forbidden to speak their language or use their names

so tell me, under those conditions, how their descendants could ever be expected to know where THEY Came from? or what their culture had been before the americas?


the only culture I know is AMerican of AFrican descent, but AFrica is a CONTINENT, with many countries and cultures within it

yet I have no way to say which country or culture I can claim, unlike I would be able to do if I was IRISH or FRENCH or JAPANESE,,,

And lucky you are to not have to deal with the atrocities still happening in many places in Africa.......personally right now I would thank my lucky stars I live where I live now and dod not have to endure continual killings shredded families still going on in Africa today.......sorry you fell you lost your culture aspects.....but now you have many but many cultural aspects were still passed generationally

msharmony's photo
Mon 10/25/10 08:55 AM


who is condoning treating anyone 'badly'?


Property is part of a person. Advocating taking tax money from one group to help another group is treating the first group badly.


this is a bigger issue than mere daily niceties or neighborliness, these issues are at an INSTITUTIONAL level, not a personal one


You are actually claiming that institutional racism still exists? Do you want to back that up?


as to the rest, NAACP supports school choice and lower taxes(although we have pretty low taxes already as a nation compared to most western nations) and business initiatives and less disparate drug sentencing


They definitely don't support school choice. "business initiatives" always favor one group over another. Lowering taxes and startup costs for businesses would be a fair and logical step to economic growth in all sectors. I can't confirm or deny that they support lower taxes, could you supply a link?


what one group gets taxed for the exclusive benefit of another group? I kind of thought that paychecks and their deductions didnt recognize race, or gender, or nationality,,,,

I am actually claiming that the LEGACY(effects) of institutional racism is as real as the suffering of someone exposed to radiation after the source of radiation is removed




willing2's photo
Mon 10/25/10 08:55 AM




NAACP promotes racism by not condemning Afrocentrism.

The Inconvenient Truth - Part 1: Black Racism
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=em55RSIS--s&feature=related



youtube, the haven of lazy thinkers


from miriam webster dictionary
institutional : of or relating to an institution <institutional knowledge>
2: characteristic of or appropriate to institutions <bland institutional cooking> <institutional green walls>

racism : : a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race
2: racial prejudice or discrimination



whether stokely or miriam can put two and two together to make four is irrelevant to the fact that it is still four



and what any of that has to do with the NAACP is still unclear,,,,laugh laugh laugh


Just happens, many of those lazy thinkers are the negro kids who the radical blackkk are playing to.



lazy thinking has no exclusive race,,,

I was speaking of the lazy thinkers influenced by the radical panthers and the irresponsible parents who allow them to listen and follow.

msharmony's photo
Mon 10/25/10 08:56 AM

if your routing for one team, you're automatically against the other team.


The organization itself promotes racism just based on their premise...




really?

so If IM all for empowering women, I must be against men?,,,interesting theory

msharmony's photo
Mon 10/25/10 08:57 AM















Africans were not the only people forced to this country against their will.
How can you say others don't know what this is like? I would argue that the majority of people alive today in this country no nothing of what it was like to be a slave. Just because your ancestors suffered through something horrible doesn't mean you know better than someone else.


please tell me what other people were forced here against their will and made subserviant and unequal for GENERATIONS? (1619 when slaves first arrived to 1865 when the 13th amendment was passed AND until 1965 when the last of the Jim Crow Laws were overruled)

The jews were in concentrations camp and killed and tortured as no other race inhistory and forced into subservience, vikings raped pillaged and murdered other races for financial gain, the asian, the italian, the irish were treated little better than dogs when they arrived......and the American Indian were treated extremely bad by the whites stealing taking everything they owned tarred and feathered hung and dragged bnehind horses as well, show me one race that was treated nicely.....



I was not referring to WORLD HISTORY, I was referring to AMERICAN HISTORY and how it has affected groups in AMERICA, so this doesnt answer the question,

which was about MUCH more than whether people were treated 'nicely'

it was about what other GROUP was forced here against their will AND stripped of their culture and their history, AND treated (under the LAWS OF THE LAND) as subserviant americans for GENERATIONS....



The key word being history. Either way they can still only ask to be treated special or equally not both.


the request has always been to be treated EQUALLY, but what has been delivered has been so UNEQUAL as to need SPECIAL ATTENTION in correcting,,,


If I have three children and I feed two and give the third scraps,, the time will come when , to have EQUAL health, that third child will need some special attention

Except many black people today know nothing about being a slave. So that analogy doesnt fit.


it does fit, people miss the point about the LEGACY of slavery and they overlook that subservant treatment didnt end with slavery but not until a hundred years later after JIM CROW laws,,laws which affected my PARENTS (not some ancient descendants) and therefore affect me by their LEGACY

From the abolishment of slavery times those other races were treated in subservient manners along with african americans and some of them were caucasians......these other races were treated with the same contempts beatings and killings as african americans......which there should not be any designation but American in the US IMO



show me the laws,,,condoning and enforcing substandard status for these 'other races' you keep referring to,,,

I said they were treated just as poorly and the only laws were in the South not in the North the North mostly just did not care until it became important top win a war but there were laws restricting the Indians and they were made subservient if they did not obey those laws, were they not? What about Custer and the last stand? Indian against white man in war were skinned and skins brought home as souvineers..........no less discusting than what happened to the African American stolen from there families raped beaten and killed by virtue of their culture........they were stolen and kept as slaves and made jokes of in wealth caucasian homes......dragged behind horses beaten when they could not keep up........tell me what about this is any prettier.........children stolen from reservations attacks many atrocities......and all ethnicities protected under the civils rights protection acts suffered quite terribly.....



what is different is there was not a generational institutional POLICY of making these groups subservant, the difference is these groups were permitted and able to maintain their CULTURE and in effect maintain a NETWORK of support, the difference is these groups can also blend in due to their skin color, the difference is atrocities during times of 'conquer' or 'revolution' vs atrocities sanctioned by GOVERNMENT for CENTURIES,,,,

are the specific actions any less reprehensible against one group than against another? NO,

but does it have more impact when it lasts for centuries at the BEQUEST of the GOVERNMENT,,yes

No one has been held from seeking their cultures since that time not you and not our parents........


lol, please point me to the records on who my ancestors were before the slave trade? Id love to know where to find them. SLAVES Were brought here and FORBIDDEN to have further contact with their homeland or their relatives because they were merely PROPERTY, they were forbidden to speak their language or use their names

so tell me, under those conditions, how their descendants could ever be expected to know where THEY Came from? or what their culture had been before the americas?


the only culture I know is AMerican of AFrican descent, but AFrica is a CONTINENT, with many countries and cultures within it

yet I have no way to say which country or culture I can claim, unlike I would be able to do if I was IRISH or FRENCH or JAPANESE,,,

And lucky you are to not have to deal with the atrocities still happening in many places in Africa.......personally right now I would thank my lucky stars I live where I live now and dod not have to endure continual killings shredded families still going on in Africa today.......sorry you fell you lost your culture aspects.....but now you have many but many cultural aspects were still passed generationally


who said I wasnt thankful for my blessings, it doesnt require me to be blind to what needs fixing though,,,

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Mon 10/25/10 08:58 AM
Edited by msharmony on Mon 10/25/10 09:01 AM





NAACP promotes racism by not condemning Afrocentrism.

The Inconvenient Truth - Part 1: Black Racism
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=em55RSIS--s&feature=related



youtube, the haven of lazy thinkers


from miriam webster dictionary
institutional : of or relating to an institution <institutional knowledge>
2: characteristic of or appropriate to institutions <bland institutional cooking> <institutional green walls>

racism : : a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race
2: racial prejudice or discrimination



whether stokely or miriam can put two and two together to make four is irrelevant to the fact that it is still four



and what any of that has to do with the NAACP is still unclear,,,,laugh laugh laugh


Just happens, many of those lazy thinkers are the negro kids who the radical blackkk are playing to.



lazy thinking has no exclusive race,,,

I was speaking of the lazy thinkers influenced by the radical panthers and the irresponsible parents who allow them to listen and follow.



uhhuh, lazy thinkers are a sad reality that I hope will get better when the pendulum swings back away from the culture of impatience and immediate gratification and towards a culture of diplomacy, patience, and logic,,,,

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Mon 10/25/10 09:16 AM














Africans were not the only people forced to this country against their will.
How can you say others don't know what this is like? I would argue that the majority of people alive today in this country no nothing of what it was like to be a slave. Just because your ancestors suffered through something horrible doesn't mean you know better than someone else.


please tell me what other people were forced here against their will and made subserviant and unequal for GENERATIONS? (1619 when slaves first arrived to 1865 when the 13th amendment was passed AND until 1965 when the last of the Jim Crow Laws were overruled)

The jews were in concentrations camp and killed and tortured as no other race inhistory and forced into subservience, vikings raped pillaged and murdered other races for financial gain, the asian, the italian, the irish were treated little better than dogs when they arrived......and the American Indian were treated extremely bad by the whites stealing taking everything they owned tarred and feathered hung and dragged bnehind horses as well, show me one race that was treated nicely.....



I was not referring to WORLD HISTORY, I was referring to AMERICAN HISTORY and how it has affected groups in AMERICA, so this doesnt answer the question,

which was about MUCH more than whether people were treated 'nicely'

it was about what other GROUP was forced here against their will AND stripped of their culture and their history, AND treated (under the LAWS OF THE LAND) as subserviant americans for GENERATIONS....



The key word being history. Either way they can still only ask to be treated special or equally not both.


the request has always been to be treated EQUALLY, but what has been delivered has been so UNEQUAL as to need SPECIAL ATTENTION in correcting,,,


If I have three children and I feed two and give the third scraps,, the time will come when , to have EQUAL health, that third child will need some special attention

Except many black people today know nothing about being a slave. So that analogy doesnt fit.


it does fit, people miss the point about the LEGACY of slavery and they overlook that subservant treatment didnt end with slavery but not until a hundred years later after JIM CROW laws,,laws which affected my PARENTS (not some ancient descendants) and therefore affect me by their LEGACY

From the abolishment of slavery times those other races were treated in subservient manners along with african americans and some of them were caucasians......these other races were treated with the same contempts beatings and killings as african americans......which there should not be any designation but American in the US IMO



show me the laws,,,condoning and enforcing substandard status for these 'other races' you keep referring to,,,

I said they were treated just as poorly and the only laws were in the South not in the North the North mostly just did not care until it became important top win a war but there were laws restricting the Indians and they were made subservient if they did not obey those laws, were they not? What about Custer and the last stand? Indian against white man in war were skinned and skins brought home as souvineers..........no less discusting than what happened to the African American stolen from there families raped beaten and killed by virtue of their culture........they were stolen and kept as slaves and made jokes of in wealth caucasian homes......dragged behind horses beaten when they could not keep up........tell me what about this is any prettier.........children stolen from reservations attacks many atrocities......and all ethnicities protected under the civils rights protection acts suffered quite terribly.....



what is different is there was not a generational institutional POLICY of making these groups subservant, the difference is these groups were permitted and able to maintain their CULTURE and in effect maintain a NETWORK of support, the difference is these groups can also blend in due to their skin color, the difference is atrocities during times of 'conquer' or 'revolution' vs atrocities sanctioned by GOVERNMENT for CENTURIES,,,,

are the specific actions any less reprehensible against one group than against another? NO,

but does it have more impact when it lasts for centuries at the BEQUEST of the GOVERNMENT,,yes

No one has been held from seeking their cultures since that time not you and not our parents........


lol, please point me to the records on who my ancestors were before the slave trade? Id love to know where to find them. SLAVES Were brought here and FORBIDDEN to have further contact with their homeland or their relatives because they were merely PROPERTY, they were forbidden to speak their language or use their names

so tell me, under those conditions, how their descendants could ever be expected to know where THEY Came from? or what their culture had been before the americas?


the only culture I know is AMerican of AFrican descent, but AFrica is a CONTINENT, with many countries and cultures within it

yet I have no way to say which country or culture I can claim, unlike I would be able to do if I was IRISH or FRENCH or JAPANESE,,,

for that matter who are my ancestors? I've spent a few hundred dollars trying to find mine still no luck...finding ANYONES ancestors is a pain, and a process. How far have you gone back? do you even know if your ancestor was a slave? many africans immigrated here(of free will) after slavery was abolished...so how far back have you gone?

msharmony's photo
Mon 10/25/10 09:18 AM















Africans were not the only people forced to this country against their will.
How can you say others don't know what this is like? I would argue that the majority of people alive today in this country no nothing of what it was like to be a slave. Just because your ancestors suffered through something horrible doesn't mean you know better than someone else.


please tell me what other people were forced here against their will and made subserviant and unequal for GENERATIONS? (1619 when slaves first arrived to 1865 when the 13th amendment was passed AND until 1965 when the last of the Jim Crow Laws were overruled)

The jews were in concentrations camp and killed and tortured as no other race inhistory and forced into subservience, vikings raped pillaged and murdered other races for financial gain, the asian, the italian, the irish were treated little better than dogs when they arrived......and the American Indian were treated extremely bad by the whites stealing taking everything they owned tarred and feathered hung and dragged bnehind horses as well, show me one race that was treated nicely.....



I was not referring to WORLD HISTORY, I was referring to AMERICAN HISTORY and how it has affected groups in AMERICA, so this doesnt answer the question,

which was about MUCH more than whether people were treated 'nicely'

it was about what other GROUP was forced here against their will AND stripped of their culture and their history, AND treated (under the LAWS OF THE LAND) as subserviant americans for GENERATIONS....



The key word being history. Either way they can still only ask to be treated special or equally not both.


the request has always been to be treated EQUALLY, but what has been delivered has been so UNEQUAL as to need SPECIAL ATTENTION in correcting,,,


If I have three children and I feed two and give the third scraps,, the time will come when , to have EQUAL health, that third child will need some special attention

Except many black people today know nothing about being a slave. So that analogy doesnt fit.


it does fit, people miss the point about the LEGACY of slavery and they overlook that subservant treatment didnt end with slavery but not until a hundred years later after JIM CROW laws,,laws which affected my PARENTS (not some ancient descendants) and therefore affect me by their LEGACY

From the abolishment of slavery times those other races were treated in subservient manners along with african americans and some of them were caucasians......these other races were treated with the same contempts beatings and killings as african americans......which there should not be any designation but American in the US IMO



show me the laws,,,condoning and enforcing substandard status for these 'other races' you keep referring to,,,

I said they were treated just as poorly and the only laws were in the South not in the North the North mostly just did not care until it became important top win a war but there were laws restricting the Indians and they were made subservient if they did not obey those laws, were they not? What about Custer and the last stand? Indian against white man in war were skinned and skins brought home as souvineers..........no less discusting than what happened to the African American stolen from there families raped beaten and killed by virtue of their culture........they were stolen and kept as slaves and made jokes of in wealth caucasian homes......dragged behind horses beaten when they could not keep up........tell me what about this is any prettier.........children stolen from reservations attacks many atrocities......and all ethnicities protected under the civils rights protection acts suffered quite terribly.....



what is different is there was not a generational institutional POLICY of making these groups subservant, the difference is these groups were permitted and able to maintain their CULTURE and in effect maintain a NETWORK of support, the difference is these groups can also blend in due to their skin color, the difference is atrocities during times of 'conquer' or 'revolution' vs atrocities sanctioned by GOVERNMENT for CENTURIES,,,,

are the specific actions any less reprehensible against one group than against another? NO,

but does it have more impact when it lasts for centuries at the BEQUEST of the GOVERNMENT,,yes

No one has been held from seeking their cultures since that time not you and not our parents........


lol, please point me to the records on who my ancestors were before the slave trade? Id love to know where to find them. SLAVES Were brought here and FORBIDDEN to have further contact with their homeland or their relatives because they were merely PROPERTY, they were forbidden to speak their language or use their names

so tell me, under those conditions, how their descendants could ever be expected to know where THEY Came from? or what their culture had been before the americas?


the only culture I know is AMerican of AFrican descent, but AFrica is a CONTINENT, with many countries and cultures within it

yet I have no way to say which country or culture I can claim, unlike I would be able to do if I was IRISH or FRENCH or JAPANESE,,,

for that matter who are my ancestors? I've spent a few hundred dollars trying to find mine still no luck...finding ANYONES ancestors is a pain, and a process. How far have you gone back? do you even know if your ancestor was a slave? many africans immigrated here(of free will) after slavery was abolished...so how far back have you gone?


I have a multicultural background, I have found seven generations back on the side that is european(scottsmen), I have also found west indian,, but of my AFRICAN heritage(that by which I am most visibly identified as in america) I know nothing,,,as there were no records kept

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Mon 10/25/10 09:25 AM
My but I had relatives who were treated like slaves becasue they were Italian. Weep me some tears will ya?

I love ho so many blacks want to say "Oh my poor relatives" but no one seems to remember what happened to all those Chinese, Italian, and Irish who came here legally. Hell, we treated our own as slaves.

Some people really need to get over themselves.

When South Africa ended Apartheid the place went to hell. Places in Africa under white rule functioned. When they chased the whites out their countries all went to hell.

Many of the blacks shooting their mouths off here NEVER been to Africa. If they went they would wind up getting killed anyways. Too bad they don't do and shoot their mouths off. This country came a long way to straightening its act out but now all these "victims" of the system want more appeasements.

Some people really need to get over themselves. Why is it some people are not happy just being American? We gotta have Afro Americans too? Well I want special consideration for American Italians too now!

What a bunch of Poo Poo!

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