As to the teacher, he could very well be in trouble at a sexual level. A teens booty is off limits.

No you would not have because you are not permitted to leave the class unattended.

The teacher's options there are often limited. But spanking a teenager is ridiculous. The word should never have been used. In treating others respectfully, a request that she behave would be more appropriate, as would an attempt to distract her or ignore her insolence- as it would soon end if there was no feedback.

It is common for teachers of behaviorally disordered students to have to restrain, but there is a correct way to do it, and it is NOT spanking. Had he not reacted inappropriately to the kick, she would be facing expulsion now - as it should be. So he really hurt his own cause, so to speak

But that young girl was definitely behaviorally disordered - on that day anyway. Despite the teacher's poor judgement, that fact cannnot be overlooked.

Don't know about growing up to be an abuser, that's bs. I was disciplined as a student and it taught me not to do it again, or I would get worse. I'm not a habitual offender, not even once. Stop giving the brats an excuse!

every child is different as well as what every child learns,, I was happy and spanked and loved and disciplined and rewarded, I had a life of BALANCE , nothing obsessive or one sided(which is the real culprit of children with issue, what the BALANCE of their life is)

spanking for discipline was no more condoning or teaching me to be violent than wrestling or football for sport condoned hitting people or tossing them on the floor for my brothers

as I said, different children need different methods, but all children need balance, spanking worked for me, and I am GLAD my parents did it because of what it taught me in the end about their consistency(doing what they said they would do), it taught me consequences for poor choices, it taught me boundaries and respect for authority

I know all that is contradictory to others choice to live boundary free whatever makes me happy lives,, but people can actually be happy while understanding boundaries and pushing through consequences to make better choices in the future,,

also not a fan of spanking here. Most parents who use the occasinal butt whack are reacting rather than teaching when teaching is what discipline is supposed to be


and a spanking must not ever leave a visible mark, handprint or bruise any where on a child's body. at all.

Nobody gave a brat an excuse.

So I don't know what you are talking about.

We are almost all the children who falsely learned to believe that violence meant love at some level.

wow, all respect, but I am quite capable of knowing if I was a happy child. That statement is like saying children who think they are healthy even though they grew up with fast food in their diet dont know what they are talking about. There are many people who eat unhealthy foods in BALANCE with healthy foods, exercise, rest,,,etc,, who are much HEALTHIER than those who eat nothing but healthy foods but dont get proper rest or vitamins or exercise

to hang a childs happiness on any ONE thing in their life is pretty preposterous

I was spanked as a discipline and I was rewarded as reinforcement for good choices, and I was a very happy child because I had BALANCE, BOUNDARIES, CONSISTENCY, and SUPPORT

all is a big word...spanking means discipline, and nothing more. it doesn't mean getting drunk and beating them, it doesn't mean you've had a bad day and want to hit something. and yes, spanking is out of love, so your kids learn how to act. if you don't care what they do, or how they act, how is that love?

alot of generalizations are injected into the spanking debate. I think people miss the idea of BALANCE being more important than any one choice or decision. I dont think not spanking is an indication of not caring anymore than I think spanking is an indication of lost control or condoning violence.

different things work for different children , but BALANCE is key to a healthy and happy life

It is funny and sick to me that amount of defense there is for violence against those who are littler than you.

i hate laughing and puking at the same time...

everybody has different views... being non violent doesn't solve everything, and neither does violence.

it really doesnt need to be,,,, think of it this way


we dont get sickened generally by the idea of forced imprisonment(grounding) when it comes to children

if we recognize the difference between children and adults and the reasons behind certain circumstances and how they differ between children and adults,,,, the idea of a child having a few swats on a well padded behind that they probably fall on just as hard dozens of times while playing,,,,isnt really all that sickening

FIGHTING them like an adult, punching, kicking them,, thats a different story

yea, just what we need, another group hug... just another step in the pussifaction of america.

I would have to assume (although I hate to) that you were actually not happy for lots of reasons when you were a child, and perhaps for you the discipline was one reason.

I dont think that experience for you is the same experience for all spanked children though or that noone else was or is capable of being a happy child and being spanked just because you werent.

I also dont condone trying to CONVINCE otherwise happy people that they should really be unhappy with their circumstance because we were. For instance, I LOVED sitting alone as a child with my imagination to keep me company and because there were no interruptions. I have heard people say they HATED having to sit still as a child, or sit in their room. They shouldnt be convinced that I really was miserable about it and am in denial because I didnt feel the same way they did. Its like saying one persons emotion is more valid than anothers.

I dont condone abuse and people have very different circumstances in their childhood. To credit their happiness or blame their unhappiness on any one element in their childhood is something only that CHILD can attest to and noone can assume to attest to it for them. I was a very happy child. because I had VERY supportive parents. I was encouraged to believe in myself, I was pushed to do my best, I was loved at every step of the way. I was also given the rules of the home and the consequences ahead of time so that I could make the CHOICE about how to act. IT is when children have balance, whether being spanked or not, that they will be healthy and happy. WHen they get TOO much of anything(spanking, attention, unearned gifts, unhealthy foods) or TOO little of others(love, hugs, assurance, support, balanced meals, responsibility),,that problems occur in their adulthood.

Noone can force recovery on anyone.

A person has to get there themselves.

I agree, when recovery is necessary, it must be the choice of the individual.

IF a person is happy, functioning, and not harming others though, doctors and psychologists generally dont prescribe any type of 'recovery'.

Blind leading the blind?