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Topic: Being Upfront
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Mon 06/15/09 12:55 PM
Edited by yellowrose10 on Mon 06/15/09 12:57 PM
hmmmmmmmmmmm

maybe part of the problem could be that even when given an explanation...it's not enough. the whys and confrontations come in instead of accepting the answer (whether you agree or not)

i have been guilty of this in the past....now i just accept it because, really, no one OWES me an answer. it would be nice to get one and understand it, but it's not owed to me

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Mon 06/15/09 12:58 PM







if yer not going to wait on an answer

why bother bringing anything up

it appears by that statement it is not a conversation that is wanted

but a this is how it so conform




What?
He was stating that I was opening up to you...not suggesting that you were in the equasion of my answer...but you felt the need to defend yourself saying...that is not what I said!I was only opening up my heart and finding a way to communicate my feelings on this matter!This is how miscommunication and people being afraid to open up begin!
BTW...I love this thread singmesweet!


I just clarified that I was not waiting around for answers from someone. Isn't that called communicating? :wink:
It is communicating ...yes...but only on a specific sentence.There was so much more there that wasn't adressed!


Such as?


You see...you need me to repeat myself.I will! "Some People have a hard time saying what they feel, not everyone can be so honest and forth comming" "It is up to us to sometimes read the signs and make a change" "we are responsible for ourselves"

These are a few.But you could of read back and seen that..or elaborated on it from the begining.Unless you are just not intrested in my input..in which case..i respect that!

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Mon 06/15/09 12:59 PM

hmmmmmmmmmmm

maybe part of the problem could be that even when given an explanation...it's not enough. the whys and confrontations come in instead of accepting the answer (whether you agree or not)

i have been guilty of this in the past....now i just accept it because, really, no one OWES me an answer. it would be nice to get one and understand it, but it's not owed to me


yayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy - that's how I see it too

:banana: :banana:

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Mon 06/15/09 12:59 PM

Ya know, the last time I had a something important to say to a girl, I requested that I might be a able to put it in writing. I explained that if I were to attempt to say it right on the spot that I would end up saying something that I would regret.

Well, she told me to just say it. So I gave it my best shot. I intended to say that being 'just friends' was not comfortable to me given the feelings I had for her. I intended to have an intelligent conversation on the matter. I wanted her to be as open with me as I had been with her. Butttt... Given my habit for shooting from the hip with my words, I must have said something very wrong. Actually, I know what I said, and would rather not repeat it here. scared It's been two months since that conversation. That was the last time we spoke. Bahhh, I can almost make it until noon without thinking of her.

So, sometimes you need to know when to give someone time to compose their thoughts.


I'm sorry - hope things work out

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Mon 06/15/09 01:00 PM








if yer not going to wait on an answer

why bother bringing anything up

it appears by that statement it is not a conversation that is wanted

but a this is how it so conform




What?
He was stating that I was opening up to you...not suggesting that you were in the equasion of my answer...but you felt the need to defend yourself saying...that is not what I said!I was only opening up my heart and finding a way to communicate my feelings on this matter!This is how miscommunication and people being afraid to open up begin!
BTW...I love this thread singmesweet!


I just clarified that I was not waiting around for answers from someone. Isn't that called communicating? :wink:
It is communicating ...yes...but only on a specific sentence.There was so much more there that wasn't adressed!


Such as?


You see...you need me to repeat myself.I will! "Some People have a hard time saying what they feel, not everyone can be so honest and forth comming" "It is up to us to sometimes read the signs and make a change" "we are responsible for ourselves"

These are a few.But you could of read back and seen that..or elaborated on it from the begining.Unless you are just not intrested in my input..in which case..i respect that!


Ah. When you said there was more that wasn't addressed, I thought you meant other than what you said.

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Mon 06/15/09 01:01 PM
Edited by adj4u on Mon 06/15/09 01:05 PM

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Mon 06/15/09 01:01 PM









if yer not going to wait on an answer

why bother bringing anything up

it appears by that statement it is not a conversation that is wanted

but a this is how it so conform




What?
He was stating that I was opening up to you...not suggesting that you were in the equasion of my answer...but you felt the need to defend yourself saying...that is not what I said!I was only opening up my heart and finding a way to communicate my feelings on this matter!This is how miscommunication and people being afraid to open up begin!
BTW...I love this thread singmesweet!


I just clarified that I was not waiting around for answers from someone. Isn't that called communicating? :wink:
It is communicating ...yes...but only on a specific sentence.There was so much more there that wasn't adressed!


Such as?


You see...you need me to repeat myself.I will! "Some People have a hard time saying what they feel, not everyone can be so honest and forth comming" "It is up to us to sometimes read the signs and make a change" "we are responsible for ourselves"

These are a few.But you could of read back and seen that..or elaborated on it from the begining.Unless you are just not intrested in my input..in which case..i respect that!


Ah. When you said there was more that wasn't addressed, I thought you meant other than what you said.
Nope!

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Mon 06/15/09 01:02 PM

You know what I'd like to see more of? Men being upfront and honest about things. Now, I'm not saying all men are like this, but from what I've seen and what other women have told me, many men avoid confrontation like the plague. It isn't that difficult to just be upfront about what you're thinking. If something isn't working out, let us know. It can't be that hard.


Some people have a need to complicate the simple things in life for some reason. Some people my hold back in fear of what the other MIGHT do or say. flowerforyou

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Mon 06/15/09 01:02 PM

You know what I'd like to see more of? Men being upfront and honest about things. Now, I'm not saying all men are like this, but from what I've seen and what other women have told me, many men avoid confrontation like the plague. It isn't that difficult to just be upfront about what you're thinking. If something isn't working out, let us know. It can't be that hard.


Wow, there has been a lot of posts here today. I will admit I did not read all of it so I may be repeating someone's response.


To start with, IMO, a confrontation to me denotes a negative situation. One with anger, assumptions and wrong doings. Hell, I wouldn't want to be the one starting or participating in a confrontation regardless of whether I am a man or a woman. It's a lost cause.

Now, if we were in a conversation discussing a topic that makes him vulnerable and the woman is trying to understand his position, why would he not be open and honest? In my experience most reasons are that the women (mother, grandmother, sister, teacher, friend, girlfriend....) in his life have always made him feel as if his opinions/feelings are not valid and/or he did not trust them or respect them enough to show them who he really is and what he is really thinking.

If you show them a caring, trusting and open environment on a consistent basis and don't "bash" them or tell them "they are wrong in how they feel" then maybe the man will see you as an ally and someone who will value what they say. Eventually, they do tell you exactly how they feel. Mostly it is going to be on their terms, out of the blue when that subject is no longer being discussed.

For all the hurt that a lot of women cause men, it's up to the next one (woman) to be open and honest herself and show true compassion and they (man) may surprise you and give it back in return.


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Mon 06/15/09 01:04 PM

Nope!


Got it.

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Mon 06/15/09 01:05 PM


You know what I'd like to see more of? Men being upfront and honest about things. Now, I'm not saying all men are like this, but from what I've seen and what other women have told me, many men avoid confrontation like the plague. It isn't that difficult to just be upfront about what you're thinking. If something isn't working out, let us know. It can't be that hard.


Some people have a need to complicate the simple things in life for some reason. Some people my hold back in fear of what the other MIGHT do or say. flowerforyou


Just be honest. If they get upset, they get upset. It happens. I can't speak for others, but I'd rather know what's going on.

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Mon 06/15/09 01:06 PM


Nope!


Got it.
Cool...but I guess you don't agree with no comment!Only adding my two cents..."and now back t our program"

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Mon 06/15/09 01:08 PM



You know what I'd like to see more of? Men being upfront and honest about things. Now, I'm not saying all men are like this, but from what I've seen and what other women have told me, many men avoid confrontation like the plague. It isn't that difficult to just be upfront about what you're thinking. If something isn't working out, let us know. It can't be that hard.


Some people have a need to complicate the simple things in life for some reason. Some people my hold back in fear of what the other MIGHT do or say. flowerforyou


Just be honest. If they get upset, they get upset. It happens. I can't speak for others, but I'd rather know what's going on.


Yep, I agree. Honesty and communication are essential in every relationship (co-worker, friend, lover, etc.).

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Mon 06/15/09 01:10 PM



Nope!


Got it.
Cool...but I guess you don't agree with no comment!Only adding my two cents..."and now back t our program"


Were you waiting for me to agree with you? After you said we shouldn't wait for answers? laugh

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Mon 06/15/09 01:10 PM




You know what I'd like to see more of? Men being upfront and honest about things. Now, I'm not saying all men are like this, but from what I've seen and what other women have told me, many men avoid confrontation like the plague. It isn't that difficult to just be upfront about what you're thinking. If something isn't working out, let us know. It can't be that hard.


Some people have a need to complicate the simple things in life for some reason. Some people my hold back in fear of what the other MIGHT do or say. flowerforyou


Just be honest. If they get upset, they get upset. It happens. I can't speak for others, but I'd rather know what's going on.


Yep, I agree. Honesty and communication are essential in every relationship (co-worker, friend, lover, etc.).


Yes, exactly. :thumbsup:

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Mon 06/15/09 01:12 PM




Nope!


Got it.
Cool...but I guess you don't agree with no comment!Only adding my two cents..."and now back t our program"


Were you waiting for me to agree with you? After you said we shouldn't wait for answers? laugh
you shouldn't wait for answers from significant others that you feel will heal a relationship! As for a simple thread where people post thoughts and ideas...yes an answer would of been productive...but certainly not needed!

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Mon 06/15/09 01:13 PM


Yep, I agree. Honesty and communication are essential in every relationship (co-worker, friend, lover, etc.).



as long as both are of equal communication. but when someone gives and explanation and it's not good enough or saying someones opinions/beliefs/feelings are wrong...the confrontation starts. just like this thread and many others in the past

not everyone is the same. if someone is a liar...then i know they aren't for me and i move on. if someone can't communicate, then that is not for me.


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Mon 06/15/09 01:15 PM





Nope!


Got it.
Cool...but I guess you don't agree with no comment!Only adding my two cents..."and now back t our program"


Were you waiting for me to agree with you? After you said we shouldn't wait for answers? laugh
you shouldn't wait for answers from significant others that you feel will heal a relationship! As for a simple thread where people post thoughts and ideas...yes an answer would of been productive...but certainly not needed!


You stated what you thought. I was unaware that a response from me was needed.

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Mon 06/15/09 01:17 PM
Edited by salvatore35 on Mon 06/15/09 01:18 PM






Nope!


Got it.
Cool...but I guess you don't agree with no comment!Only adding my two cents..."and now back t our program"


Were you waiting for me to agree with you? After you said we shouldn't wait for answers? laugh
you shouldn't wait for answers from significant others that you feel will heal a relationship! As for a simple thread where people post thoughts and ideas...yes an answer would of been productive...but certainly not needed!


You stated what you thought. I was unaware that a response from me was needed.
You see how a man and woman can mis communicate.I wrote at the end of my last post "But certainly not needed"...you insist I said it was needed.Singmesweet..i think you are a great girl.But our interaction is the perfect example of mis communication and goes on all the time with fueding couples.
No answer needed..means no answer needed!

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Mon 06/15/09 01:19 PM
Edited by singmesweet on Mon 06/15/09 01:19 PM

You see how a man and woman can mis communicate.I wrote at the end of my last post "But certainly not needed"...you you insist I said it was needed.Singmesweet..i think you ar a great girl.But our interaction is the perfect example of mis communication and goes on all the time with fueding couples.
No answer needed..means no answer needed!


Sorry. Needed wasn't the right word. Maybe I should have said wanted. But no, you cannot compare us to "feuding couples." We don't know each other at all, other than in the forums. You've had an issue with me ever since I said the whole "I love you" thing was a bit creepy. You keep bringing that up. That's all.

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