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Topic: Being Upfront
italio69's photo
Mon 06/15/09 10:26 AM
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does this not mean that not all but a lot (actually most - your word)
of the confrontations must be brung to the forefront by the female in the mix then

after all if most mean do not want to be confrontational and do not want to tell you something because it may bring on a confrontation

it is obvious then that most confrontations must be initiated by the woman then

never thought i would see teh day two women would admit this in such a short time frame less than 3 minutes apart

honesty what a breath of fresh air

thank you ladies

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Mon 06/15/09 10:26 AM


I know I am going to get slack, but why take that stance. If someone choses not to discuss any topic, what makes another feel that they are due an explanation or response.



I would say it depends on the topic.

yellowrose10's photo
Mon 06/15/09 10:27 AM
maybe they do avoid confrontations like the plague because they don't want confrontation or they know their temper. some women don't communicate with men without confrontations. for the most part...both sides want to be right. Honesty is important but not everyone takes honesty in a good wayohwell

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Mon 06/15/09 10:27 AM



does this not mean that not all but a lot (actually most - your word)
of the confrontations must be brung to the forefront by the female in the mix then

after all if most mean do not want to be confrontational and do not want to tell you something because it may bring on a confrontation

it is obvious then that most confrontations must be initiated by the woman then

never thought i would see teh day two women would admit this in such a short time frame less than 3 minutes apart

honesty what a breath of fresh air

thank you ladies

flowerforyou flowerforyou flowerforyou flowerforyou


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What are you talking about?


from op



many men avoid confrontation like the plague.



if the men are avoiding confrontation

then were does it come from


As I stated earlier, some men avoid talking all together about certain things so they can avoid confrontation. If they would stop avoiding things all together, there wouldn't have to be any confrontation.

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Mon 06/15/09 10:28 AM

You know what I'd like to see more of? Men being upfront and honest about things. Now, I'm not saying all men are like this, but from what I've seen and what other women have told me, many men avoid confrontation like the plague. It isn't that difficult to just be upfront about what you're thinking. If something isn't working out, let us know. It can't be that hard.



scared I don't wanna deal with this question. I'm outta here. :tongue:

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Mon 06/15/09 10:32 AM

Men just avoid. They stop calling, they say nothing.


That's certainly not a universal condition. I place a great deal of emphasis on communication -- and then I get called "intimidating" because I use words with more than one syllable, and words that tend to be spelled correctly. I mean, you can't have it both ways. They say they want to communicate, but when the opportunity arises, suddenly they have second thoughts....now, it's too difficult.


Where the FVCK are the alpha males? Not the turds who want to go along to get along, seethe with resentment, and then call themselves nice guys later.


I find the "alpha" concept somewhat passe, actually -- maybe if we'd stop trying to categorizing everybody into neat little alphaholes and omegaholes, etc., and start thinking in terms of individuals, we'd be better off.






adj4u's photo
Mon 06/15/09 10:34 AM




does this not mean that not all but a lot (actually most - your word)
of the confrontations must be brung to the forefront by the female in the mix then

after all if most mean do not want to be confrontational and do not want to tell you something because it may bring on a confrontation

it is obvious then that most confrontations must be initiated by the woman then

never thought i would see teh day two women would admit this in such a short time frame less than 3 minutes apart

honesty what a breath of fresh air

thank you ladies

flowerforyou flowerforyou flowerforyou flowerforyou


:wink: :wink: laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh



What are you talking about?


from op



many men avoid confrontation like the plague.



if the men are avoiding confrontation

then were does it come from


As I stated earlier, some men avoid talking all together about certain things so they can avoid confrontation. If they would stop avoiding things all together, there wouldn't have to be any confrontation.


or they would then be accused of being confrontational jerks

it is a no win situation most of the time

and how do the women know there is an issue to begin with if they are not being told there is an issue

it is assumed thus back to the same thing

if many men avoid confrontation where does it come from

you know the first post was more of a joke (note the laughing emo)

but maybe it was on point more than it was funny

after all ya took offense theus causing confrontation

so again

if men avoid confrontation where does it come from


lilith401's photo
Mon 06/15/09 10:34 AM
Lexy... you're a real man. Shuddup. You know quite well this does not apply to you. :tongue:

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Mon 06/15/09 10:34 AM


That's certainly not a universal condition. I place a great deal of emphasis on communication -- and then I get called "intimidating" because I use words with more than one syllable, and words that tend to be spelled correctly. I mean, you can't have it both ways. They say they want to communicate, but when the opportunity arises, suddenly they have second thoughts....now, it's too difficult.



Some of us would actually like to find men who actually will communicate. That seems difficult these days. :tongue:

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Mon 06/15/09 10:35 AM

Lexy... you're a real man. Shuddup. You know quite well this does not apply to you. :tongue:


I know, I just wanted to hear you say that.

See how easy REAL communication is, everybody?

shades

FearandLoathing's photo
Mon 06/15/09 10:36 AM

You know what I'd like to see more of? Men being upfront and honest about things. Now, I'm not saying all men are like this, but from what I've seen and what other women have told me, many men avoid confrontation like the plague. It isn't that difficult to just be upfront about what you're thinking. If something isn't working out, let us know. It can't be that hard.


I do it, it is not all that easy either. Seems the majority of women I've dated don't like the honesty.ohwell

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Mon 06/15/09 10:36 AM


or they would then be accused of being confrontational jerks

it is a no win situation most of the time

and how do the women know there is an issue to begin with if they are not being told there is an issue

it is assumed thus back to the same thing

if many men avoid confrontation where does it come from

you know the first post was more of a joke (note the laughing emo)

but maybe it was on point more than it was funny

after all ya took offense theus causing confrontation

so again

if men avoid confrontation where does it come from




Apparently you're not getting it. But that's ok :smile:.

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Mon 06/15/09 10:39 AM
Edited by adj4u on Mon 06/15/09 10:39 AM



or they would then be accused of being confrontational jerks

it is a no win situation most of the time

and how do the women know there is an issue to begin with if they are not being told there is an issue

it is assumed thus back to the same thing

if many men avoid confrontation where does it come from

you know the first post was more of a joke (note the laughing emo)

but maybe it was on point more than it was funny

after all ya took offense theus causing confrontation

so again

if men avoid confrontation where does it come from




Apparently you're not getting it. But that's ok :smile:.


if you say so

or maybe i am getting it more than is comfortable for some

or maybe yer not getting it flowerforyou [but that's ok]

yellowrose10's photo
Mon 06/15/09 10:39 AM
singmesweet..is there a particular example????

i do know that (for example) a guy say it's just not working (in a relationship) the girl might wants to be confrontational. it's hard for anyone to know if someone just wants to talk or they want to fight. emotions are involved a lot of times...and some people don't want to hear the truth

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Mon 06/15/09 10:41 AM


....well ladies since you seem to know how we are ...maybe you should just love us the way we are....and quit trying to change us...yep it's just that easy...smokin

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Mon 06/15/09 10:41 AM

singmesweet..is there a particular example????

i do know that (for example) a guy say it's just not working (in a relationship) the girl might wants to be confrontational. it's hard for anyone to know if someone just wants to talk or they want to fight. emotions are involved a lot of times...and some people don't want to hear the truth


No particular example.

What do you suggest, though? A guy is worried a girl might have issues with the truth, so he doesn't say anything at all to avoid any confrontation? That's kind of silly.

lilith401's photo
Mon 06/15/09 10:41 AM
Here is an example:

I got asked out by a guy, we exchanged numbers and were to talk to firm it all up. Never freaking heard from dyckhead again. Now.... if he met someone else, got sick, whatever... great. But I heard nothing.

TURD.

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Mon 06/15/09 10:41 AM




or they would then be accused of being confrontational jerks

it is a no win situation most of the time

and how do the women know there is an issue to begin with if they are not being told there is an issue

it is assumed thus back to the same thing

if many men avoid confrontation where does it come from

you know the first post was more of a joke (note the laughing emo)

but maybe it was on point more than it was funny

after all ya took offense theus causing confrontation

so again

if men avoid confrontation where does it come from




Apparently you're not getting it. But that's ok :smile:.


if you say so

or maybe i am getting it more than is comfortable for some

or maybe yer not getting it flowerforyou [but that's ok]


That doesn't even make sense.

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Mon 06/15/09 10:42 AM

Here is an example:

I got asked out by a guy, we exchanged numbers and were to talk to firm it all up. Never freaking heard from dyckhead again. Now.... if he met someone else, got sick, whatever... great. But I heard nothing.

TURD.


Yeah, I don't see how it's hard to pick up the phone or even email and say what's going on.

adj4u's photo
Mon 06/15/09 10:43 AM





or they would then be accused of being confrontational jerks

it is a no win situation most of the time

and how do the women know there is an issue to begin with if they are not being told there is an issue

it is assumed thus back to the same thing

if many men avoid confrontation where does it come from

you know the first post was more of a joke (note the laughing emo)

but maybe it was on point more than it was funny

after all ya took offense theus causing confrontation

so again

if men avoid confrontation where does it come from




Apparently you're not getting it. But that's ok :smile:.


if you say so

or maybe i am getting it more than is comfortable for some

or maybe yer not getting it flowerforyou [but that's ok]


That doesn't even make sense.


maybe that is why they do not comunicate

cause it is doesn't make sense

it really is not that complicated

explain why it does not make sense

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