thomas...it is their right to chose. not mine, the governemnts or yours. just because something isn't for me (or even if something goes angainst what I might believe in) doesn't mean everyone has to go along with me

although if they did the world would be a nicer place for me to live in

ok, let's review the facts

FACT: she stated it was her opinion
FACT: She said she was glad she was in a country where people choose
FACT: We are supposed to have freedom of speech.
FACT: Perez asked for her opinion

Question: Why isn't she allowed to have an opinion opposite yours?

isaac....according to who is it immoral??? your religious beliefs??? well not everyone has the same beliefs

If you read it in context i said if she had stated "i think gay marriage should be banned, it's immoral, people shouldn't have a right to choose" or anything close to that" it is a view that is often taken by the opposition. I never said it was my view, and I never said that it wasn't either. It was a generalized statement often stated by the opposition. So please don't try to turn this into a religious forum.

I don't agree that it was a put down. And for you to say that if I'm straight I wouldn't notice. Man, common on now. You getting absurd with those type comments.

Maybe you should listen to the video:

http://www.kansascity.com/932/story/1151831.html

scroll down to find. This one has the best audio. Hear the reaction of both proponets of gay marriage and anti gay marriage proponets cheer at she makes her comments.

Actually she did say those things just in different words. Her whole comment was that marriage should be between a man and a woman and that is the way she was raised, was a put down, or didn't you notice. If you are straight you may not have noticed that. One doesn't have to say the word immoral to suggest it, or to get the point across. She said what shes been taught, but no one can convince me that at her age she really has a clue what it would mean for the otherside.

I never saw anyone say she was forced to say anything. And by the way a lot of people care on both sides of this issue, however some could care less about one particular side. But you can bet that the side that has to fight does care. And I especially care when a member of my community does something this stupid.

None of this would have happened if Perez wasn't an unconscious twit in the first place, he put the bullet in the gun and handed it to her to shoot at the audience.

I wouldn't be suprised if I was the only gay that thought he was an idiot.

Maybe you should reread the whole thread, isaac, really. I simply stated what I thought of her opinion, not that I thought she should not have one, or have the right to one. Her stating that she lived in a country where people choose is not quite accurate, unless I am missing something here, but matters little because the rest of her comments were a put down anyway.

But again I think you would have to be gay to notice. If someone says 'thats the way I was raised' it suggests that others were raised wrong. Did you not notice that? Or am I the only one. Course I could be because I am probably the only gay in this thread right now.

I honor free speech, just as she said what she did, I am allowed to say what I have, where's the problem with free speech?

As for Perez, well you already know what I think of him.

But again I think you would have to be gay to notice.

'thats the way I was raised' it suggests that others were raised wrong

That is what is so ironic about the whole thing.We have already established that marriage is a Christian tradition and has no roots at all with the government.Yet you have all these gays and Atheist screaming bloody murder anytime you have a Christian song sang at a school or Christmas lights in a town.The say over and over separation of church and state,separation of church and state.

So how does it make sense if they want the separation of church and state to have the government butt in to a Christian tradition and change those laws to fit their own agenda?It is hypocrital at its worst.Neither the gays or the Government should tell Christians what they need to do or believe especially since the majority have already ruled many times to butt out.

there are ceremonies that aren't christian thomas. people from the beginning of time have gotten married without the government or today's ceremonies

This is true but marriage as we know it today began with the Christians.

I think you are disrespecting this girl just like Perez did. You are interpreting the intent of her words to fit your belief. I see it as her attempt not to offend either side. In fact, some could construe her comment that she was raised to be that way sort of an apology to the gay community for feeling that marriage should be only between a man and a woman.

Beauty contests...now there's a grand Christian tradition!

Perez Hilton? Fluff...someone who makes a living yapping it seems about other people who do not matter.

The cult of personality haha

He set her up and she answered badly.

Long and short of it is they are both seemingly vapid asses who no more represent the typical American than do Rosie the Riveter and Uncle Sam. (With apologies to the fictional Rosie and Sam)To assert there is some vast conspiracy to forward a political agenda via her loss is as asinine as those who look at the pageant system and assert it should be abolished because it furthers the image of women as nothing more than sex objects.

These views are reactionary and extreme.

From a practical view every contestant answering questions should have been ready for a wide variety of questions. The questions by the way were selected from a fishbowl by the girl. So, to assert she was set up seems silly.

If you decide to enter a cattle call then be ready.

Still, do not despair...the poor little thing has a pre-written ticket to be the darling of the right now. Appearing at rallies and in "oh poor me for standing up for my morals" appearances.

The whole thing is a disgusting and sickening dog and pony show that lessens the real issue.

Keep swallowing that hook!

'thats the way I was raised' it suggests that others were raised wrong

No it doesn't it suggest that she was raised differently...as a person struggling against a society that thinks your lifestyle is 'different' doesn't that ring a little of hypocrisy?

Since gays can not reproduce naturally they would eventually die out.So no matter what you belive in gays were never meant to be together either in human or animal form.

Since gays can not reproduce naturally they would eventually die out.So no matter what you belive in gays were never meant to be together either in human or animal form.

No it doesn't mean you can't be objective, it mean you aren't at the moment being objective in my opinion only. The fact is that you didn't notice. It stood out to me like a sore thumb, and that is to be expected

I love being part of millions of people who have the power to not only overide the laws of governers,cities and states,but also the power to veto a descison by the federal supreme court.Sorry but the gays have little or no power compared to the Chrisitans.But you keep fighting your losing cause.It's good for raising church attendance.