Topic: You can't win if you believe
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Mon 04/20/09 07:59 PM



Homosexuals and heterosexuals both have the same rights to marriage. A heterosexual is able to marry a person of the opposite sex. A homosexual is also able to marry a person of the opposite sex. A heterosexual is unable to marry a person of the same sex, just like a homosexual is unable to marry a person of same sex. Both heterosexuals and homosexuals henceforth have the right to marry a person of the opposite sex, but both heterosexuals and homosexuals are unable to marry a person of the same sex. Heterosexuals CHOOSE to marry people of opposite sex. However, homosexuals do not CHOOSE to marry people of the opposite sex, so the right is not being taken away from them.


Boy some folks really just don't get it. But we don't worry about folks who don't get it because they never will.


What kinda argument is that. I say the same back at you. You won't never get why marriage should be between a man and a woman.

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Mon 04/20/09 08:04 PM


In that case Perez is a complete ass for even suggesting that particular question at a pagent no less. And if he expected the opposite answer he's still an ass. Why the hell would you ask that question at a pagent as if it were a stage for world affairs.

Ok now I am totally ticked off at Perez, what a jerk, even if her answer was even more lame than it was, that should be not reason for her to lose. How the hell did the other judges authorize such a loaded question?


Her answer was not lame......It was HONEST.


According to you, to me it was lame. [I think] is not the same as [I feel]...

But we won't agree anyway so no biggie.

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Mon 04/20/09 08:06 PM
I'm just glad that people out there are seeing through this gay agenda nonsense.There are so many people worried about being politically correct and offending someone that they are living a totally different life than they want to do.They are saying things they don't really believe and acting like a puppet on someone's strings.Despite what happened to this girl I already know it took great courage to say what she said.I know she will look back on life and always be proud she didn't become some mindless nitwit marching to the beat of someone elses drum.There are alot of people who respect and admire people who stand for their beliefs no matter what they are up against.It is people like this who change the world,make history,and keep Americas heritage alive.

drinker flowers :thumbsup:



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Mon 04/20/09 08:08 PM


In that case Perez is a complete ass for even suggesting that particular question at a pagent no less. And if he expected the opposite answer he's still an ass. Why the hell would you ask that question at a pagent as if it were a stage for world affairs.

Ok now I am totally ticked off at Perez, what a jerk, even if her answer was even more lame than it was, that should be not reason for her to lose. How the hell did the other judges authorize such a loaded question?


I'm not sure the other judges knew the questions. I'm not sure who writes them in that pageant. but this is what I was trying to say earlier.

I do question the question though and wonder if it wasn't to promote something or to trap her. Perez is openingly gay himself....so his question makes me kinda wonder about him personally


Well if we have all the info now it matters little what he personally thinks, so what if he is openly gay, that question was inappropriate for the occasion and why the hell the judges don't collaborate on the questions is beyond me. Perez did an injustice to the pageant and to the gay community as far as I am concerned.


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Mon 04/20/09 08:15 PM
Boo...i agree. but I would think he would know that it would cause a stir by asking it then to trash her for her response on his blogs etc

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Mon 04/20/09 08:19 PM

I'm just glad that people out there are seeing through this gay agenda nonsense.There are so many people worried about being politically correct and offending someone that they are living a totally different life than they want to do.They are saying things they don't really believe and acting like a puppet on someone's strings.Despite what happened to this girl I already know it took great courage to say what she said.I know she will look back on life and always be proud she didn't become some mindless nitwit marching to the beat of someone elses drum.There are alot of people who respect and admire people who stand for their beliefs no matter what they are up against.It is people like this who change the world,make history,and keep Americas heritage alive.

drinker flowers :thumbsup:


No, more like you want people marching to the beat of your drum and dang it they just won't cooperate.. We all need to be good little robots and mind the majority. Sorry but those days are way over.

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Mon 04/20/09 08:20 PM

What kinda argument is that. I say the same back at you. You won't never get why marriage should be between a man and a woman.


No I will not, your right. Your too busy focusing on body parts. Marriage is alot more than that.

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Mon 04/20/09 08:24 PM

Boo...i agree. but I would think he would know that it would cause a stir by asking it then to trash her for her response on his blogs etc


If that is the case I would love to know where his blog is when he does and I will be happy to condemn him for his absolute stupidity.

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Mon 04/20/09 08:25 PM
i will have to look for it again. i saw in one of the articles about it that he blogged about it.

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Mon 04/20/09 08:28 PM
honestly WHO THE F!CK CARES!!!! she gave an OPINION one that she BELIEVED she stated that it was HER OWN, she was not trying to FORCE her views on anybody else she even said she is glad people have a right to CHOOSE THEMSELVES she did nothing wrong. But however, the pro-gay community wanted to FORCE their own views on people because THEIR opinion is the only one WE ARE ALLOWED TO CHOSE! COME ON PEOPLE! now if she sat up their and said "i think gay marriage should be banned, it's immoral, people shouldn't have a right to choose" or anything close to that I'd agree. However, it was HER OWN OPINION get the F!CK over your pretentious phony-self-righteous selves and LET IT DIE!

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Mon 04/20/09 08:34 PM


What kinda argument is that. I say the same back at you. You won't never get why marriage should be between a man and a woman.


No I will not, your right. Your too busy focusing on body parts. Marriage is alot more than that.


BS on the body parts.

I believe that marriage should be between a man and a woman. You can't seem to respect the rights of others to feel this way.

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Mon 04/20/09 08:42 PM

honestly WHO THE F!CK CARES!!!! she gave an OPINION one that she BELIEVED she stated that it was HER OWN, she was not trying to FORCE her views on anybody else she even said she is glad people have a right to CHOOSE THEMSELVES she did nothing wrong. But however, the pro-gay community wanted to FORCE their own views on people because THEIR opinion is the only one WE ARE ALLOWED TO CHOSE! COME ON PEOPLE! now if she sat up their and said "i think gay marriage should be banned, it's immoral, people shouldn't have a right to choose" or anything close to that I'd agree. However, it was HER OWN OPINION get the F!CK over your pretentious phony-self-righteous selves and LET IT DIE!


Actually she did say those things just in different words. Her whole comment was that marriage should be between a man and a woman and that is the way she was raised, was a put down, or didn't you notice. If you are straight you may not have noticed that. One doesn't have to say the word immoral to suggest it, or to get the point across. She said what shes been taught, but no one can convince me that at her age she really has a clue what it would mean for the otherside.

I never saw anyone say she was forced to say anything. And by the way a lot of people care on both sides of this issue, however some could care less about one particular side. But you can bet that the side that has to fight does care. And I especially care when a member of my community does something this stupid.

None of this would have happened if Perez wasn't an unconscious twit in the first place, he put the bullet in the gun and handed it to her to shoot at the audience.

I wouldn't be suprised if I was the only gay that thought he was an idiot.

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Mon 04/20/09 08:44 PM
why is it i can never find something when i need it

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Mon 04/20/09 08:46 PM



What kinda argument is that. I say the same back at you. You won't never get why marriage should be between a man and a woman.


No I will not, your right. Your too busy focusing on body parts. Marriage is alot more than that.


BS on the body parts.

I believe that marriage should be between a man and a woman. You can't seem to respect the rights of others to feel this way.



Since gays can not reproduce naturally they would eventually die out.So no matter what you belive in gays were never meant to be together either in human or animal form.

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Mon 04/20/09 08:48 PM
thomas...it is their right to chose. not mine, the governemnts or yours. just because something isn't for me (or even if something goes angainst what I might believe in) doesn't mean everyone has to go along with me

although if they did the world would be a nicer place for me to live in laugh

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Mon 04/20/09 08:49 PM



What kinda argument is that. I say the same back at you. You won't never get why marriage should be between a man and a woman.


No I will not, your right. Your too busy focusing on body parts. Marriage is alot more than that.


BS on the body parts.

I believe that marriage should be between a man and a woman. You can't seem to respect the rights of others to feel this way.


Well I knew you would call bs on body parts, I really did'nt expect much.

Everyone seems to be screaming about rights being taken away from them, maybe I should be laughing my a$$ off. Maybe shortly I can ask you how it feels not to have this or that right, huh?

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Mon 04/20/09 08:49 PM


honestly WHO THE F!CK CARES!!!! she gave an OPINION one that she BELIEVED she stated that it was HER OWN, she was not trying to FORCE her views on anybody else she even said she is glad people have a right to CHOOSE THEMSELVES she did nothing wrong. But however, the pro-gay community wanted to FORCE their own views on people because THEIR opinion is the only one WE ARE ALLOWED TO CHOSE! COME ON PEOPLE! now if she sat up their and said "i think gay marriage should be banned, it's immoral, people shouldn't have a right to choose" or anything close to that I'd agree. However, it was HER OWN OPINION get the F!CK over your pretentious phony-self-righteous selves and LET IT DIE!


Actually she did say those things just in different words. Her whole comment was that marriage should be between a man and a woman and that is the way she was raised, was a put down, or didn't you notice. If you are straight you may not have noticed that. One doesn't have to say the word immoral to suggest it, or to get the point across. She said what shes been taught, but no one can convince me that at her age she really has a clue what it would mean for the otherside.

I never saw anyone say she was forced to say anything. And by the way a lot of people care on both sides of this issue, however some could care less about one particular side. But you can bet that the side that has to fight does care. And I especially care when a member of my community does something this stupid.

None of this would have happened if Perez wasn't an unconscious twit in the first place, he put the bullet in the gun and handed it to her to shoot at the audience.

I wouldn't be suprised if I was the only gay that thought he was an idiot.

ok, let's review the facts

FACT: she stated it was her opinion
FACT: She said she was glad she was in a country where people choose
FACT: We are supposed to have freedom of speech.
FACT: Perez asked for her opinion

Question: Why isn't she allowed to have an opinion opposite yours?

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Mon 04/20/09 08:50 PM


honestly WHO THE F!CK CARES!!!! she gave an OPINION one that she BELIEVED she stated that it was HER OWN, she was not trying to FORCE her views on anybody else she even said she is glad people have a right to CHOOSE THEMSELVES she did nothing wrong. But however, the pro-gay community wanted to FORCE their own views on people because THEIR opinion is the only one WE ARE ALLOWED TO CHOSE! COME ON PEOPLE! now if she sat up their and said "i think gay marriage should be banned, it's immoral, people shouldn't have a right to choose" or anything close to that I'd agree. However, it was HER OWN OPINION get the F!CK over your pretentious phony-self-righteous selves and LET IT DIE!


Actually she did say those things just in different words. Her whole comment was that marriage should be between a man and a woman and that is the way she was raised, was a put down, or didn't you notice. If you are straight you may not have noticed that. One doesn't have to say the word immoral to suggest it, or to get the point across. She said what shes been taught, but no one can convince me that at her age she really has a clue what it would mean for the otherside.

I never saw anyone say she was forced to say anything. And by the way a lot of people care on both sides of this issue, however some could care less about one particular side. But you can bet that the side that has to fight does care. And I especially care when a member of my community does something this stupid.

None of this would have happened if Perez wasn't an unconscious twit in the first place, he put the bullet in the gun and handed it to her to shoot at the audience.

I wouldn't be suprised if I was the only gay that thought he was an idiot.


I don't agree that it was a put down. And for you to say that if I'm straight I wouldn't notice. Man, common on now. You getting absurd with those type comments.

Maybe you should listen to the video:

http://www.kansascity.com/932/story/1151831.html

scroll down to find. This one has the best audio. Hear the reaction of both proponets of gay marriage and anti gay marriage proponets cheer at she makes her comments.

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Mon 04/20/09 08:51 PM




What kinda argument is that. I say the same back at you. You won't never get why marriage should be between a man and a woman.


No I will not, your right. Your too busy focusing on body parts. Marriage is alot more than that.


BS on the body parts.

I believe that marriage should be between a man and a woman. You can't seem to respect the rights of others to feel this way.



Since gays can not reproduce naturally they would eventually die out.So no matter what you belive in gays were never meant to be together either in human or animal form.


You really need to crack the books, you are completely misinformed.

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Mon 04/20/09 08:56 PM
isaac....according to who is it immoral??? your religious beliefs??? well not everyone has the same beliefs