Simple question for the folks who apparently really disagree with the secession approach....

I want the possibility of a better future for my family, friends and neighbors...I am not convinced that our current path is leading us in that direction...

Should I ...?

A. Speak my honest opinion based on what I know for a fact to be happening within my county, home town, state and country.

B. Shut my mouth. Bow my head. Take it up the @ss with no complaining...or else be considered a disloyal traitor?

krupa...pick A pick A

http://www.tsl.state.tx.us/exhibits/annexation/part5/question11.html

http://www.tsl.state.tx.us/ref/abouttx/annexation/dec1845.html

http://www.tsl.state.tx.us/ref/abouttx/annexation/4july1845.html

those are a few links i found on the topic

The land of the free, home of the brave..., that is, unless you're a disloyal traitor and cannot follow stupid orders.

Damn YellowRose...no wonder I love Texas women...beautiful, intelligent and take no sh*t.

C. Vote, participate in the government to make the changes best for your family.

D. Become an incumbant and be a law maker


There are more options available to everyone.

wait...i don't blush

I have voted for the past 22 years honey.

I cannot run for office due to my "past".

Where does that leave me and others like me.

A couple of weeks ago, a couple of the younger guys were complaining that we need another raise....myself and the office manager sat down and put pen to paper....

for the guys making $11.50 an hour..figuring in inflation..taxation and basic living expenses...

Compared to three years ago, Today's $11.50 now equates to $7.50 in purchasing power.

Maybe things are sunshine and rainbows where you guys are at...with me...those numbers do not sit well.

Not always is the answer "fight the powers that be". Sometimes the powers that be need our help to make them more able to serve us properly.

I suffer too.... well in others eyes it would be suffering. I do not consider it suffering, I consider it the steps in life. If I want a change I work to make the changes, starting first with myself and working outwards.

I wanted a change in the government and I worked at it diligently for at least the last 4 years or so. I can see the changes happening now. I am but one person but I made a difference so can anyone else who is willing to roll up their sleeves and work for the betterment of this country.

A defeatist or vicitm philosophy will never bring positivity to ones life. Wallowing will never cause a difference.

Seceding is not a positive change, it is a change but not a positive one especially for those who do not even realize the full end result.

Noone wants to lose their citizenship, noone wants a bloody civil war, noone wants to suffer financially more than they are already doing, noone wants to suffer complete bloody anarchy, etc... But the ones pushing secession are bringing this onto others who do not wish to go through it nor do they deserve it.

Using it as a threat is not constructive either because those who think a threat of this kind will do something positive for them are not dealing in reality.

I don't believe in threats. If you are not able or willing to go all the way with what you say you will do you have just deemed yourself ineffective and people will disregard your words.

if they thought that way during the Boston Tea Party....we would still be under England

The situation is not even close to similar. Not a valid analogy.

did ANYONE even read the links I provided or did I waste my time?

I did, and they seem to be pretty close.

lol only because I made you davey

Correct me if I'm wrong but were we not annexed by England and fighting against taxation without representation. While I'll admit it's not exactly same I'd say it's atleast close to similar.

Not always is the answer "fight the powers that be".

that is where I used that analogy.

Made me? I don't think so. You asked me privately to look at them yes, but you sure didn't make me.

I read them Rose.

Sorry Dragoness...no disrespect but, I fully concur with Yellow's assesment.

If no one stand up and makes a change..then nothing changes. If the colonists just shut thier mouths...took it up the @ss...and did nothing more than send delegations to the king...we damned sure would be a protectorate of a European nation. England would have never given up its claim to natural resources available on American soil..nor the taxation of it's American subjects.

Did England have overwhelming Naval and Army power and resources? Absolutely.

Did the dirt poor colonists have a chance against such an advanced military power who controled all the shipping lanes at that point...Vegas would say that they wouldn't have a chance...

but you know...alot of the people who said "You can't do that!" were wrong....

and that is the exact reason we are here talking today.

So now, the past repeats it's self...

once again there is the "You can't do that"... "You can't fight the Government" ..."You couldn't win against the armed forces of the United States".

I look to the past...and I disagree.

I do not have to look back very far...

We had our @ss handed to us in Viet Nam due to poor leadership.
Same is true of Afghanitan.
No one is out of the woods in Iraq...no matter what our budget is.

TY krupa

and davey...you know i did

It is not close to similar. Noone is fighting against taxation without representation. Texas has representation in our government. All states are functioning participatories in this United States. They are represented in the government fairly just like all other states are.