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So is Texas prepared to finance each and every little thing that they already recieve from the federal government? Is Texas ready to be swarmed with refugees from outside its borders? Arent all of the banks Federal Institutions? That means every single bank is under the control of the federal government? I dont think Texas would survive if it did break apart from the US, at least not in the style that it is living in right now.
Secession sounds hasty. Im not really sure if the people who agree with it are actually shooting from the heart or if they have logically saw whats on the horizon if they did. I applaud you for voicing your opinion, I just disagree with it. TM |
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We're not really alone. 20 some odd other States have or are doing the paperwork to restore their Sovereignty, a prelude Secession. February 6th, 2009 States including Washington, Arizona, Montana, Michigan, Missouri, Oklahoma, Hawaii and New Hampshire have drafted bills reminding the Federal Government of their voluntary submission under the Tenth Amendment. Here is a list of the others claiming their Sovereignty; AL, AK, AR, CA, CO, GA,ID, IN, KS, ME, MO, NV, PA, SC Anybody here posting from Oklahoma?  I am here to tell you Colorado is not considering at a political level at any point. I already verified it. |
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I don't know how it would all work and come out but maybe it could be a wake up call. and Texas is pretty self sufficient right now (oil, cattle, tropics, cottons etc) Not to mention cotton, wheat, sorghum, shipping ports (not sure where people think that U.S. nuclear weapons are made...many are produced here)... Just think...if we reduced importation tarriffs by 1% compared to U.S. tarriffs and customs fees...we would be the biggest importer on the north American continent. Global allies of the U.S. would pay close attention and make sure that the States practice the policies of tolerance that they have enforced on other nations for decades. (especially if those allies can get a better economic deal by bargaining with Texas) |
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I don't know how it would all work and come out but maybe it could be a wake up call. and Texas is pretty self sufficient right now (oil, cattle, tropics, cottons etc) Not to mention cotton, wheat, sorghum, shipping ports (not sure where people think that U.S. nuclear weapons are made...many are produced here)... Just think...if we reduced importation tarriffs by 1% compared to U.S. tarriffs and customs fees...we would be the biggest importer on the north American continent. Global allies of the U.S. would pay close attention and make sure that the States practice the policies of tolerance that they have enforced on other nations for decades. (especially if those allies can get a better economic deal by bargaining with Texas) Not true. We have ignored global controls when it suited us with barely no reprecussions. Look at Bush. |
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So is Texas prepared to finance each and every little thing that they already recieve from the federal government? Is Texas ready to be swarmed with refugees from outside its borders? Arent all of the banks Federal Institutions? That means every single bank is under the control of the federal government? I dont think Texas would survive if it did break apart from the US, at least not in the style that it is living in right now. Secession sounds hasty. Im not really sure if the people who agree with it are actually shooting from the heart or if they have logically saw whats on the horizon if they did. I applaud you for voicing your opinion, I just disagree with it. TM Thanks bro. That was the simple and honest kind of opinion I was really kind of looking for. (See kids? People can disagree and still be thoughtful and respectful) |
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We're not really alone. 20 some odd other States have or are doing the paperwork to restore their Sovereignty, a prelude Secession. February 6th, 2009 States including Washington, Arizona, Montana, Michigan, Missouri, Oklahoma, Hawaii and New Hampshire have drafted bills reminding the Federal Government of their voluntary submission under the Tenth Amendment. Here is a list of the others claiming their Sovereignty; AL, AK, AR, CA, CO, GA,ID, IN, KS, ME, MO, NV, PA, SC Anybody here posting from Oklahoma? I am here to tell you Colorado is not considering at a political level at any point. I already verified it. I Colorado is on the list. Nothing can be done to stop them from Seceding, if they so choose. |
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We're not really alone. 20 some odd other States have or are doing the paperwork to restore their Sovereignty, a prelude Secession. February 6th, 2009 States including Washington, Arizona, Montana, Michigan, Missouri, Oklahoma, Hawaii and New Hampshire have drafted bills reminding the Federal Government of their voluntary submission under the Tenth Amendment. Here is a list of the others claiming their Sovereignty; AL, AK, AR, CA, CO, GA,ID, IN, KS, ME, MO, NV, PA, SC Anybody here posting from Oklahoma? I am here to tell you Colorado is not considering at a political level at any point. I already verified it. I Colorado is on the list. Nothing can be done to stop them from Seceding, if they so choose. I can and the others like me who think it is stupid to even threaten will stop it. The legislature here is not considering it. I already checked when it was brought up before. No go in Colorado. 
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I don't know how it would all work and come out but maybe it could be a wake up call. and Texas is pretty self sufficient right now (oil, cattle, tropics, cottons etc) One should never threaten that which they cannot or will not do. Texas would be the worst place to live if they left the US. Government control as they know it would end. Power struggles would ensue. The texans are fooling themselves into believing they are somehow better than the rest of the country at some level. Makes me think that you probably ain't from around here. |
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 It is illegal for any state to secede and last time it was tried a LOT of people died. It was called the Civil War Naw man...Texas never gave up the right to legal secession...all the other states did...at least that is what they teach in Texas History classes. The Supreme Court of the U.S. has deemed that to be unconstitional
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We're not really alone. 20 some odd other States have or are doing the paperwork to restore their Sovereignty, a prelude Secession. February 6th, 2009 States including Washington, Arizona, Montana, Michigan, Missouri, Oklahoma, Hawaii and New Hampshire have drafted bills reminding the Federal Government of their voluntary submission under the Tenth Amendment. Here is a list of the others claiming their Sovereignty; AL, AK, AR, CA, CO, GA,ID, IN, KS, ME, MO, NV, PA, SC Anybody here posting from Oklahoma? The Supreme Court of the United States has deemed seccession to be illegal. It caused the Civil war last time it was tried.
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Don't forget, we also have Sea Ports.
We can tax the HeII out of all vehicles entering from all roads coming into or passing through Texas. Increased Hotel, motel and Restaurant taxes for all out-of-staters. Texas is a long drive through. As far as banks, we can have our own currency and reinstate a State Banking Institution. Screw the FED. |
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Edited by
Dragoness
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Fri 04/17/09 05:38 PM
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I don't know how it would all work and come out but maybe it could be a wake up call. and Texas is pretty self sufficient right now (oil, cattle, tropics, cottons etc) One should never threaten that which they cannot or will not do. Texas would be the worst place to live if they left the US. Government control as they know it would end. Power struggles would ensue. The texans are fooling themselves into believing they are somehow better than the rest of the country at some level. Makes me think that you probably ain't from around here. Been there. Ain't so great. Lots of hotheads running around with weapons for the most part. And their racial inequalities are still astounding down there. It amazes me every time I go down south.  I guess I would have to say as the righties say to the lefties when they have a problem with how this country is run, "If you don't like it, leave". Right? My opinion of course. |
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We're not really alone. 20 some odd other States have or are doing the paperwork to restore their Sovereignty, a prelude Secession. February 6th, 2009 States including Washington, Arizona, Montana, Michigan, Missouri, Oklahoma, Hawaii and New Hampshire have drafted bills reminding the Federal Government of their voluntary submission under the Tenth Amendment. Here is a list of the others claiming their Sovereignty; AL, AK, AR, CA, CO, GA,ID, IN, KS, ME, MO, NV, PA, SC Anybody here posting from Oklahoma? I am here to tell you Colorado is not considering at a political level at any point. I already verified it. I Colorado is on the list. Nothing can be done to stop them from Seceding, if they so choose. War could stop it
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I don't know how it would all work and come out but maybe it could be a wake up call. and Texas is pretty self sufficient right now (oil, cattle, tropics, cottons etc) One should never threaten that which they cannot or will not do. Texas would be the worst place to live if they left the US. Government control as they know it would end. Power struggles would ensue. The texans are fooling themselves into believing they are somehow better than the rest of the country at some level. Makes me think that you probably ain't from around here. Been there. Ain't so great. Lots of hotheads running around with weapons for the most part. And their racial inequalities are still astounding down there. It amazes me every time I go down south. I guess I would have to say as the righties say to the lefties when they have a problem with how this country is run, "If you don't like it, leave". Right? My opinion of course. that first paragraph is silly....as for the 2nd paragraph...why would someone stay in a place they hate? |
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Been there. Ain't so great. Lots of hotheads running around with weapons for the most part. And their racial inequalities are still astounding down there. It amazes me every time I go down south. I guess I would have to say as the righties say to the lefties when they have a problem with how this country is run, "If you don't like it, leave". Right? My opinion of course. I guess we do understand each other. Thanks for your input. |
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I don't know how it would all work and come out but maybe it could be a wake up call. and Texas is pretty self sufficient right now (oil, cattle, tropics, cottons etc) One should never threaten that which they cannot or will not do. Texas would be the worst place to live if they left the US. Government control as they know it would end. Power struggles would ensue. The texans are fooling themselves into believing they are somehow better than the rest of the country at some level. Makes me think that you probably ain't from around here. Been there. Ain't so great. Lots of hotheads running around with weapons for the most part. And their racial inequalities are still astounding down there. It amazes me every time I go down south. I guess I would have to say as the righties say to the lefties when they have a problem with how this country is run, "If you don't like it, leave". Right? My opinion of course. that first paragraph is silly....as for the 2nd paragraph...why would someone stay in a place they hate? First paragraph is accurate and that is exactly what I said. Maybe, texans who do not want to be Americans anymore should consider another country??? I am just reiterating what they tell others. |
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We're not really alone. 20 some odd other States have or are doing the paperwork to restore their Sovereignty, a prelude Secession. February 6th, 2009 States including Washington, Arizona, Montana, Michigan, Missouri, Oklahoma, Hawaii and New Hampshire have drafted bills reminding the Federal Government of their voluntary submission under the Tenth Amendment. Here is a list of the others claiming their Sovereignty; AL, AK, AR, CA, CO, GA,ID, IN, KS, ME, MO, NV, PA, SC Anybody here posting from Oklahoma? I am here to tell you Colorado is not considering at a political level at any point. I already verified it. I Colorado is on the list. Nothing can be done to stop them from Seceding, if they so choose. War could stop it Assuming that you got more guns. |
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Edited by
yellowrose10
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Fri 04/17/09 05:46 PM
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drangoness....isn't that the whole idea of succeeding????? and there are racist in EVERY state and there are many who aren't racist here....so yes that 1st paragraph was silly and generalizing
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"The United States needs Texas more than Texas needs the United States"
-Sam Houston |
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This is an option that is gaining real momentum locally and I personally am for it. Personally I'm against it because I think it'll be a blood bath that will make the civil war look like a childs game. Please do not misunderstand... I love the United States of America and I would like to see the States exist in prosperity and happiness. I have served them in the military and I feel I have the right to an opinion as well as an honest and intelligent dialogue on this subject. Texas does maintain the legal right to secede from the Union and I believe that we should. I have absolutely nothing against the American way of life...I am really dead set against the avalanche of U.S. taxation policies and free-for all spending/bail out policies as well as dictations of legalities and foriegn policies. (Yeah, I know that The Bushes got this ball rolling) I firmly believe that as an independant nation, Texas can indeed prosper. The down side is that I do understand that the other states would suffer from trying to shoulder the fiscal void secession would bring as well as limiting access to huge seaports..petroleum stocks, refineries...some agricultural venues and nuclear weapon making facilities...(pretty sure that the U.S. citizenry wouldn't bat an eye at losing NASA) Suppose Texas did secede....how do you think it would affect you or your states economy? Hard to say California would probably follow suit as would a number of other states who have been working to gain the right. Ca. has already done the initial paperwork for Sovereignty. We're not really alone. 20 some odd other States have or are doing the paperwork to restore their Sovereignty, a prelude Secession. February 6th, 2009 States including Washington, Arizona, Montana, Michigan, Missouri, Oklahoma, Hawaii and New Hampshire have drafted bills reminding the Federal Government of their voluntary submission under the Tenth Amendment. Here is a list of the others claiming their Sovereignty; AL, AK, AR, CA, CO, GA,ID, IN, KS, ME, MO, NV, PA, SC Anybody here posting from Oklahoma? Me. I was going to say I heard it smomewhere before. Guess it was here. I am not for it. Being I am born here...I like it like it is. Although I do not like to travel..I guess I would have to get a visa if I wanted to go o Texas.(which I have no need to do)lol Except to buy my Jamaican spiced rum. I can't get it here. Nope, I like being a state of the Unionzzzz. Kat |
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