Topic: Out of the slammer
adj4u's photo
Sun 04/05/09 08:16 AM
Edited by adj4u on Sun 04/05/09 08:16 AM
the pivoting point here is did the police enter illegally

that is not a loop hole (that is breaking the law and infringing on individual rights)

so many are saying you did it and got caught

let me ask this

if it is shown the police in did entered illegally should not they be punished and stand forth and take their punishment with honor or should they look for an actual loop hole

or

now do the rules change now that the shoe would be on the other foot

Totage's photo
Sun 04/05/09 08:25 AM

Long boring story, but i wanna tell it anyway so will try and make it quick. Cops were watching my buddy. Saw me visit and leave real quick. They came to my house next day asking what I was doing there. They said he's a known dealer and I was buying drugs there. They came in my front door without permission and saw some weed on the table. They asked to search the house. I told them to kiss my ass.

They put me in cuffs for 4 hours while they got a warrant. They found no more weed, but a postage scale so added an intent to distriubute charge. Then they found my guns and charged me with posession of firearms during a felony. They also found another small bag of something I won't mention in detail.

So I got to spend a day and a half in jail. The judge let me bond myself out. So I'm free for a couple weeks. I'm speaking with the public defender and a couple more lawyers next week. Think I can beat the charges for illegal entry. We'll see how it goes.


Sounds easy enough, but we'll see. I'm sure they'll find a loophole, or atleast give a bunch of bullsh*t fines to pay off. Hopefully I'm wrong though.

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Sun 04/05/09 08:28 AM

That other substance was reportedly a small amount of another drug. Doesn't matter what. Pretty much any other drug besides weed is a felony and that is the least of my charges. The weed is a more serious charge, but still not the worst. The firearms that I legally owned and have never shot anything but targets with are what stands to get me in the most trouble here.


Here's my question, OP says the guns (legally owned) are what stands to get him in the most trouble. Why? Is this where we all guess and assume what his actions were to be?

adj4u's photo
Sun 04/05/09 08:45 AM


That other substance was reportedly a small amount of another drug. Doesn't matter what. Pretty much any other drug besides weed is a felony and that is the least of my charges. The weed is a more serious charge, but still not the worst. The firearms that I legally owned and have never shot anything but targets with are what stands to get me in the most trouble here.


Here's my question, OP says the guns (legally owned) are what stands to get him in the most trouble. Why? Is this where we all guess and assume what his actions were to be?


kinda like sleeping in your car in the bar parking lot so you do not drive drunk and getting an unjustified dui ticket :wink: :wink: :wink:

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Sun 04/05/09 08:45 AM
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adj4u's photo
Sun 04/05/09 09:06 AM

:wink: flowers


oh i'm so excited i just can't hide it

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TxsGal3333's photo
Sun 04/05/09 09:47 AM

the pivoting point here is did the police enter illegally

that is not a loop hole (that is breaking the law and infringing on individual rights)

so many are saying you did it and got caught

let me ask this

if it is shown the police in did entered illegally should not they be punished and stand forth and take their punishment with honor or should they look for an actual loop hole

or

now do the rules change now that the shoe would be on the other foot

Actually this is what he should be more concerned over then anything for if he can show they illegally got the search warrant then all charges will be dropped.

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Sun 04/05/09 09:54 AM



That other substance was reportedly a small amount of another drug. Doesn't matter what. Pretty much any other drug besides weed is a felony and that is the least of my charges. The weed is a more serious charge, but still not the worst. The firearms that I legally owned and have never shot anything but targets with are what stands to get me in the most trouble here.


Here's my question, OP says the guns (legally owned) are what stands to get him in the most trouble. Why? Is this where we all guess and assume what his actions were to be?


kinda like sleeping in your car in the bar parking lot so you do not drive drunk and getting an unjustified dui ticket :wink: :wink: :wink:


Again people should know the laws within their own state. As far as Texas goes if you in fact have the keys in the ignition then you had the intent to drive. How do they know you fell asleep on your own and not passed out instead with every intention of driving. Those laws have been on the books I know in the state of Texas for 30 years so what is ones excuse of not knowing the laws?

But if the keys are in your pocket and you are in the passenger seat or the back if you have one then it is just public intoxication.

Humm so who is at fault the one that went out and got drunk and had the choice to call a friend or a cab to get home or the officer for trying to save other lives on the road from drunk drivers?

Ohh and please don't say what if they did not have the money to get home for if that is the case they should have went to the liquor store and drank at home where it's cheaper to drink.

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Sun 04/05/09 11:40 AM
Edited by adj4u on Sun 04/05/09 11:41 AM




That other substance was reportedly a small amount of another drug. Doesn't matter what. Pretty much any other drug besides weed is a felony and that is the least of my charges. The weed is a more serious charge, but still not the worst. The firearms that I legally owned and have never shot anything but targets with are what stands to get me in the most trouble here.


Here's my question, OP says the guns (legally owned) are what stands to get him in the most trouble. Why? Is this where we all guess and assume what his actions were to be?


kinda like sleeping in your car in the bar parking lot so you do not drive drunk and getting an unjustified dui ticket :wink: :wink: :wink:


Again people should know the laws within their own state. As far as Texas goes if you in fact have the keys in the ignition then you had the intent to drive. How do they know you fell asleep on your own and not passed out instead with every intention of driving. Those laws have been on the books I know in the state of Texas for 30 years so what is ones excuse of not knowing the laws?

But if the keys are in your pocket and you are in the passenger seat or the back if you have one then it is just public intoxication.

Humm so who is at fault the one that went out and got drunk and had the choice to call a friend or a cab to get home or the officer for trying to save other lives on the road from drunk drivers?

Ohh and please don't say what if they did not have the money to get home for if that is the case they should have went to the liquor store and drank at home where it's cheaper to drink.


just because it is law does not make it right

i guess those that sell baggies and alun foil should be arrested because they are used for drugs

EZ4Sheezy's photo
Sun 04/05/09 11:48 AM


That other substance was reportedly a small amount of another drug. Doesn't matter what. Pretty much any other drug besides weed is a felony and that is the least of my charges. The weed is a more serious charge, but still not the worst. The firearms that I legally owned and have never shot anything but targets with are what stands to get me in the most trouble here.


Here's my question, OP says the guns (legally owned) are what stands to get him in the most trouble. Why? Is this where we all guess and assume what his actions were to be?


This is where the cops begin to guess and assume what my actions would be with the guns. As far as they are concerend, I am a drug user with guns. That makes me a violent offender and the guns bought with violent intentions. So they charge me with Posession of Firearms During Commission of a Felony, which in many circumstances is considered to be pretty close or tieable to Assault with a Deadly Weapon. Granted those were not my intentions with the guns, it is a pretty serious offense and very heavily punishable by law. That, I believe, is why this is my most serious offense.

EZ4Sheezy's photo
Sun 04/05/09 11:52 AM


the pivoting point here is did the police enter illegally

that is not a loop hole (that is breaking the law and infringing on individual rights)

so many are saying you did it and got caught

let me ask this

if it is shown the police in did entered illegally should not they be punished and stand forth and take their punishment with honor or should they look for an actual loop hole

or

now do the rules change now that the shoe would be on the other foot

Actually this is what he should be more concerned over then anything for if he can show they illegally got the search warrant then all charges will be dropped.


This is most definitely the focus of my defense so far. I imagine it is what my lawyer will focus on as well. Secondly I think they will look for absence of any reason to suspect or evidence to support that I was there to buy drugs and having no reason to come see me in the first place, or not going ahead and pulling me over on my way home.

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Sun 04/05/09 01:15 PM





That other substance was reportedly a small amount of another drug. Doesn't matter what. Pretty much any other drug besides weed is a felony and that is the least of my charges. The weed is a more serious charge, but still not the worst. The firearms that I legally owned and have never shot anything but targets with are what stands to get me in the most trouble here.


Here's my question, OP says the guns (legally owned) are what stands to get him in the most trouble. Why? Is this where we all guess and assume what his actions were to be?


kinda like sleeping in your car in the bar parking lot so you do not drive drunk and getting an unjustified dui ticket :wink: :wink: :wink:


Again people should know the laws within their own state. As far as Texas goes if you in fact have the keys in the ignition then you had the intent to drive. How do they know you fell asleep on your own and not passed out instead with every intention of driving. Those laws have been on the books I know in the state of Texas for 30 years so what is ones excuse of not knowing the laws?

But if the keys are in your pocket and you are in the passenger seat or the back if you have one then it is just public intoxication.

Humm so who is at fault the one that went out and got drunk and had the choice to call a friend or a cab to get home or the officer for trying to save other lives on the road from drunk drivers?

Ohh and please don't say what if they did not have the money to get home for if that is the case they should have went to the liquor store and drank at home where it's cheaper to drink.


just because it is law does not make it right

i guess those that sell baggies and alun foil should be arrested because they are used for drugs


Hummm I never said that our laws were right or wrong all I said is the Police Officers have those laws to go by. Now whether they do or not is up to them and yes they do seem to decide at the time it happens at times. But...........neither less if the Laws are there we should know what in fact we are up against if we make that choice to break the laws and what in fact could happen.

As far as the baggies and the aluminum foil a company can not be held liable for the product they make. The product was not intended for drug use at all. It is like a gun manufacture they design certain guns for pleasure use as hunting or even war not to go out and kill your neighbor or for a 5 year old to kill his friend. It is the person behind it that uses the item for their own purpose. It is not the item but what one chooses to use the item for.

My self I do not agree with a lot of the laws but they are there unless they are changed they will stay there as well.

I do not wish to see this guy or anyone else go down for weed and run their lives due to it. But the laws are there for Liquor as well we know them but still we try to get around them. To me Liquor and Marijuana are basically on the same scale. Now many others may not see this but that is how I look at it.



EZ4Sheezy's photo
Sun 04/05/09 03:13 PM

I do not wish to see this guy or anyone else go down for weed and run their lives due to it. But the laws are there for Liquor as well we know them but still we try to get around them. To me Liquor and Marijuana are basically on the same scale. Now many others may not see this but that is how I look at it.


Exactly. When people get drunk, they can be violent, or go out and drive too fast and kill people. When people get stoned, they drive home at 7 miles per hour to go watch cartoons and eat Moon Pies. And cigarettes are said to be just as addictive as heroin, give people cancer and kill them. So what's the bad drug here? Certainly not weed. So why should we be punished for smoking a little?

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Sun 04/05/09 03:25 PM
Edited by michiganman3 on Sun 04/05/09 03:30 PM




ok, im going to sound like a TOTAL b!tch here, but....good luck on beating the charges???? you did something illegal, you got caught. no pity here. if i add anymore to this post, i'll be getting a lot of hate mail. oh well.


Something isnt necessarily wrong just because the law says so.

Would you also have had no pity for a homosexual going to prison for buggery when it was illegal?

I'll be full of pity if he goes to jail for it.


and the overgeneralizing starts....is "buggery" illegal?


It used to be. At least in my country. My point is, you should make up your own mind on whether something is morally wrong or not, rather than following what the law says.


Then I declare that I can run any idiot off the road if they are in my way. People on bicycles are going to get it first.laugh

EZ4Sheezy's photo
Sun 04/05/09 06:11 PM

Then I declare that I can run any idiot off the road if they are in my way. People on bicycles are going to get it first.laugh


Good thing I ride on the sidewalk

Winx's photo
Sun 04/05/09 06:15 PM


I do not wish to see this guy or anyone else go down for weed and run their lives due to it. But the laws are there for Liquor as well we know them but still we try to get around them. To me Liquor and Marijuana are basically on the same scale. Now many others may not see this but that is how I look at it.


Exactly. When people get drunk, they can be violent, or go out and drive too fast and kill people. When people get stoned, they drive home at 7 miles per hour to go watch cartoons and eat Moon Pies. And cigarettes are said to be just as addictive as heroin, give people cancer and kill them. So what's the bad drug here? Certainly not weed. So why should we be punished for smoking a little?


Isn't dangerous for a person to be driving too slow on the highway?


EZ4Sheezy's photo
Mon 04/06/09 11:40 PM



I do not wish to see this guy or anyone else go down for weed and run their lives due to it. But the laws are there for Liquor as well we know them but still we try to get around them. To me Liquor and Marijuana are basically on the same scale. Now many others may not see this but that is how I look at it.


Exactly. When people get drunk, they can be violent, or go out and drive too fast and kill people. When people get stoned, they drive home at 7 miles per hour to go watch cartoons and eat Moon Pies. And cigarettes are said to be just as addictive as heroin, give people cancer and kill them. So what's the bad drug here? Certainly not weed. So why should we be punished for smoking a little?


Isn't dangerous for a person to be driving too slow on the highway?




Well when I get stoned I rarely feel like going far enough from the house to justify going on the highway.

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Mon 04/06/09 11:42 PM
Edited by GeniuSxBoY on Mon 04/06/09 11:49 PM
So are you telling me, that on this whole planet Earth, you can't find anything to occupy your time and must resort to drugs for entertainment and leisure?

EZ4Sheezy's photo
Mon 04/06/09 11:47 PM

So are you telling me, that on this whole planet Earth, you can't find anything to occupy yourself and must resort to drugs from entertainment and leisure?


Nope. When did I say that? I can find plenty things to do for leisure. I just like to smoke some weed amongst other things.

adj4u's photo
Tue 04/07/09 09:24 AM

So are you telling me, that on this whole planet Earth, you can't find anything to occupy your time and must resort to drugs for entertainment and leisure?



what does it matter

was not hurting anyone

maybe fishing and hunting should be illegal cause after all most fish live in polluted water and hunting takes a weapon that you could hurt yourself using

so maybe those two things should be next to be made illegal

besides there are other things to occupy your time with (like singing praising the govt)