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Why? Dont you read the news? Obama warns Pakistan on al-Qaeda Wednesday, 1 August 2007, 19:47 GMT 20:47 UK Mr Obama made the comments in a speech outlining his foreign policy positions. Pakistan's foreign ministry said any threat to act against al-Qaeda from within its territory should not be used for political point-scoring. Earlier this month, Mr Obama's chief rival, Hillary Clinton, described him as "naive" on foreign policy. The attack from Mrs Clinton came after a televised debate between Democrat presidential hopefuls. During the debate Mr Obama said he would be willing to meet leaders of states such as Cuba, North Korea and Iran without conditions. In his speech at the Woodrow Wilson International Center for Scholars, in Washington, Mr Obama criticised the Bush administration's focus on al-Qaeda in Iraq, saying US President George W Bush was "confusing" the mission. He said Americans were more vulnerable to terrorist attacks than before the 9/11 attacks because of a war in Iraq "that should never have been authorised and should never have been waged". "The first step must be getting off the wrong battlefield in Iraq, and taking the fight to the terrorists in Afghanistan and Pakistan," he said. Aid conditions Mr Obama said General Pervez Musharraf, Pakistan's president, must do more to end terrorist operations in his country. He said he would make the hundreds of millions of dollars in US military aid to Pakistan conditional on the following actions by the Pakistani government: substantial progress in closing down terrorist training camps evict foreign fighters prevent the Taleban from using Pakistan as staging area for attacks in Afghanistan "It was a terrible mistake to fail to act when we had a chance to take out an al-Qaeda leadership meeting in 2005," he said, referring to reports that the US had decided not to launch a strike for fear of harming ties with Pakistan. "If we have actionable intelligence about high-value terrorist targets and President Musharraf won't act, we will," Mr Obama said. The BBC's Jonathan Beale, in Washington, says such comments are clearly designed to bolster his credentials among a domestic audience. But a spokeswoman for Pakistan's foreign ministry, Tasnim Aslam, told the AFP news agency that talk of military action was a serious matter and political candidates and commentators should "show responsibility". White House spokesman Tony Snow defended Pakistan's leadership, saying it was working hard to fight al-Qaeda and Taleban fighters within its borders. Gen Musharraf has been a key US ally in its so-called "war on terror" since the 11 September 2001 terrorist attacks. But US officials have publicly said recently that they believe Pakistan has let al-Qaeda and Taleban militants reorganise themselves in tribal areas bordering Afghanistan. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6926663.stm Funny how he continues to do exactly what he said he would. Finally a President who says what he means and does what he says. You go Mr.. President. Take the war to those who attacked us! But to attack a soverign nation pre-emptively is against the UN and international laws... besides, these men don't pose any threat to us..they are sitting in little huts in the mountains..not on the shores of the USA.. Looks like your guy is following in the footsteps of that guy you hated so much before him... Yeah and he really followed through on his campaing promises and does what he says...no lobbiests, he has two...most ethical administration..he has two tax evaders for his choices for leadership positions..tax breaks for the poor...they don't even pay income taxes.. and he is just getting started... |
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Since when don't the poor pay taxes? They pay taxes on their income. They pay sales tax, personal property tax, and they pay real estate taxes if they own a home. They still pay real estate taxes if they rent too. The owner includes it in the rent cost. I didn't say all taxes, I said Income tax.. the federal income tax that they don't pay.. Obamas plan is to give them a "federal tax break"...he cannot dictate( as much as most people believe that he is the Messiah)state and local tax policy.. Everything low income people have taken out of their paychecks for federal income tax...tehy get back and sometimes with the Earned Income Tax benifit, tehy get more back then was held from their paychecks..So how can you give them a tax break on something that they don't pay? |
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Why? Dont you read the news? Obama warns Pakistan on al-Qaeda Wednesday, 1 August 2007, 19:47 GMT 20:47 UK Mr Obama made the comments in a speech outlining his foreign policy positions. Pakistan's foreign ministry said any threat to act against al-Qaeda from within its territory should not be used for political point-scoring. Earlier this month, Mr Obama's chief rival, Hillary Clinton, described him as "naive" on foreign policy. The attack from Mrs Clinton came after a televised debate between Democrat presidential hopefuls. During the debate Mr Obama said he would be willing to meet leaders of states such as Cuba, North Korea and Iran without conditions. In his speech at the Woodrow Wilson International Center for Scholars, in Washington, Mr Obama criticised the Bush administration's focus on al-Qaeda in Iraq, saying US President George W Bush was "confusing" the mission. He said Americans were more vulnerable to terrorist attacks than before the 9/11 attacks because of a war in Iraq "that should never have been authorised and should never have been waged". "The first step must be getting off the wrong battlefield in Iraq, and taking the fight to the terrorists in Afghanistan and Pakistan," he said. Aid conditions Mr Obama said General Pervez Musharraf, Pakistan's president, must do more to end terrorist operations in his country. He said he would make the hundreds of millions of dollars in US military aid to Pakistan conditional on the following actions by the Pakistani government: substantial progress in closing down terrorist training camps evict foreign fighters prevent the Taleban from using Pakistan as staging area for attacks in Afghanistan "It was a terrible mistake to fail to act when we had a chance to take out an al-Qaeda leadership meeting in 2005," he said, referring to reports that the US had decided not to launch a strike for fear of harming ties with Pakistan. "If we have actionable intelligence about high-value terrorist targets and President Musharraf won't act, we will," Mr Obama said. The BBC's Jonathan Beale, in Washington, says such comments are clearly designed to bolster his credentials among a domestic audience. But a spokeswoman for Pakistan's foreign ministry, Tasnim Aslam, told the AFP news agency that talk of military action was a serious matter and political candidates and commentators should "show responsibility". White House spokesman Tony Snow defended Pakistan's leadership, saying it was working hard to fight al-Qaeda and Taleban fighters within its borders. Gen Musharraf has been a key US ally in its so-called "war on terror" since the 11 September 2001 terrorist attacks. But US officials have publicly said recently that they believe Pakistan has let al-Qaeda and Taleban militants reorganise themselves in tribal areas bordering Afghanistan. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6926663.stm Funny how he continues to do exactly what he said he would. Finally a President who says what he means and does what he says. You go Mr.. President. Take the war to those who attacked us! But to attack a soverign nation pre-emptively is against the UN and international laws... besides, these men don't pose any threat to us..they are sitting in little huts in the mountains..not on the shores of the USA.. Looks like your guy is following in the footsteps of that guy you hated so much before him... Yeah and he really followed through on his campaing promises and does what he says...no lobbiests, he has two...most ethical administration..he has two tax evaders for his choices for leadership positions..tax breaks for the poor...they don't even pay income taxes.. and he is just getting started... Take a few minutes away from that Move on group to pay attention..Iraq was issued UN Security resolutions, I think 17 of them to provide it with information about their nuclear and chemical weapons capabilities, they refused.. These resolutions called out for negotiations and if those failed, military action to punish Iraq. After repeatedly ignoring these resolutions, and along with information recieved ( in which dems and repubs alike agreed with) We along with the coalition invaded Iraq. What good does it do to tell someone to provide you with the info along with the threat of military action, if you don't follow through with action if they are ignored?? |
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Why? Dont you read the news? Obama warns Pakistan on al-Qaeda Wednesday, 1 August 2007, 19:47 GMT 20:47 UK Mr Obama made the comments in a speech outlining his foreign policy positions. Pakistan's foreign ministry said any threat to act against al-Qaeda from within its territory should not be used for political point-scoring. Earlier this month, Mr Obama's chief rival, Hillary Clinton, described him as "naive" on foreign policy. The attack from Mrs Clinton came after a televised debate between Democrat presidential hopefuls. During the debate Mr Obama said he would be willing to meet leaders of states such as Cuba, North Korea and Iran without conditions. In his speech at the Woodrow Wilson International Center for Scholars, in Washington, Mr Obama criticised the Bush administration's focus on al-Qaeda in Iraq, saying US President George W Bush was "confusing" the mission. He said Americans were more vulnerable to terrorist attacks than before the 9/11 attacks because of a war in Iraq "that should never have been authorised and should never have been waged". "The first step must be getting off the wrong battlefield in Iraq, and taking the fight to the terrorists in Afghanistan and Pakistan," he said. Aid conditions Mr Obama said General Pervez Musharraf, Pakistan's president, must do more to end terrorist operations in his country. He said he would make the hundreds of millions of dollars in US military aid to Pakistan conditional on the following actions by the Pakistani government: substantial progress in closing down terrorist training camps evict foreign fighters prevent the Taleban from using Pakistan as staging area for attacks in Afghanistan "It was a terrible mistake to fail to act when we had a chance to take out an al-Qaeda leadership meeting in 2005," he said, referring to reports that the US had decided not to launch a strike for fear of harming ties with Pakistan. "If we have actionable intelligence about high-value terrorist targets and President Musharraf won't act, we will," Mr Obama said. The BBC's Jonathan Beale, in Washington, says such comments are clearly designed to bolster his credentials among a domestic audience. But a spokeswoman for Pakistan's foreign ministry, Tasnim Aslam, told the AFP news agency that talk of military action was a serious matter and political candidates and commentators should "show responsibility". White House spokesman Tony Snow defended Pakistan's leadership, saying it was working hard to fight al-Qaeda and Taleban fighters within its borders. Gen Musharraf has been a key US ally in its so-called "war on terror" since the 11 September 2001 terrorist attacks. But US officials have publicly said recently that they believe Pakistan has let al-Qaeda and Taleban militants reorganise themselves in tribal areas bordering Afghanistan. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6926663.stm Funny how he continues to do exactly what he said he would. Finally a President who says what he means and does what he says. You go Mr.. President. Take the war to those who attacked us! But to attack a soverign nation pre-emptively is against the UN and international laws... besides, these men don't pose any threat to us..they are sitting in little huts in the mountains..not on the shores of the USA.. Looks like your guy is following in the footsteps of that guy you hated so much before him... Yeah and he really followed through on his campaing promises and does what he says...no lobbiests, he has two...most ethical administration..he has two tax evaders for his choices for leadership positions..tax breaks for the poor...they don't even pay income taxes.. and he is just getting started... Take a few minutes away from that Move on group to pay attention..Iraq was issued UN Security resolutions, I think 17 of them to provide it with information about their nuclear and chemical weapons capabilities, they refused.. These resolutions called out for negotiations and if those failed, military action to punish Iraq. After repeatedly ignoring these resolutions, and along with information recieved ( in which dems and repubs alike agreed with) We along with the coalition invaded Iraq. What good does it do to tell someone to provide you with the info along with the threat of military action, if you don't follow through with action if they are ignored?? PLZ enlighten me. We supported Saddam because we could not allow Iran to invade Iraq. That's a stepping stone into Saudi Arabia, control of the Persian Gulf and straights of Hormuz and the worlds oil supply we could not let happen! Iraq fully armed and with our support could only fight Iran to a stand still. The Iran-Iraq war. So do tell how we can pull out now or in 16 months, 3 years, or a 100 years. How can Iraq defend its self? How can they control their own unrest????? They cant!!!!!!! We will will be back!!!!! |
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Why? Dont you read the news? Obama warns Pakistan on al-Qaeda Wednesday, 1 August 2007, 19:47 GMT 20:47 UK Mr Obama made the comments in a speech outlining his foreign policy positions. Pakistan's foreign ministry said any threat to act against al-Qaeda from within its territory should not be used for political point-scoring. Earlier this month, Mr Obama's chief rival, Hillary Clinton, described him as "naive" on foreign policy. The attack from Mrs Clinton came after a televised debate between Democrat presidential hopefuls. During the debate Mr Obama said he would be willing to meet leaders of states such as Cuba, North Korea and Iran without conditions. In his speech at the Woodrow Wilson International Center for Scholars, in Washington, Mr Obama criticised the Bush administration's focus on al-Qaeda in Iraq, saying US President George W Bush was "confusing" the mission. He said Americans were more vulnerable to terrorist attacks than before the 9/11 attacks because of a war in Iraq "that should never have been authorised and should never have been waged". "The first step must be getting off the wrong battlefield in Iraq, and taking the fight to the terrorists in Afghanistan and Pakistan," he said. Aid conditions Mr Obama said General Pervez Musharraf, Pakistan's president, must do more to end terrorist operations in his country. He said he would make the hundreds of millions of dollars in US military aid to Pakistan conditional on the following actions by the Pakistani government: substantial progress in closing down terrorist training camps evict foreign fighters prevent the Taleban from using Pakistan as staging area for attacks in Afghanistan "It was a terrible mistake to fail to act when we had a chance to take out an al-Qaeda leadership meeting in 2005," he said, referring to reports that the US had decided not to launch a strike for fear of harming ties with Pakistan. "If we have actionable intelligence about high-value terrorist targets and President Musharraf won't act, we will," Mr Obama said. The BBC's Jonathan Beale, in Washington, says such comments are clearly designed to bolster his credentials among a domestic audience. But a spokeswoman for Pakistan's foreign ministry, Tasnim Aslam, told the AFP news agency that talk of military action was a serious matter and political candidates and commentators should "show responsibility". White House spokesman Tony Snow defended Pakistan's leadership, saying it was working hard to fight al-Qaeda and Taleban fighters within its borders. Gen Musharraf has been a key US ally in its so-called "war on terror" since the 11 September 2001 terrorist attacks. But US officials have publicly said recently that they believe Pakistan has let al-Qaeda and Taleban militants reorganise themselves in tribal areas bordering Afghanistan. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6926663.stm Funny how he continues to do exactly what he said he would. Finally a President who says what he means and does what he says. You go Mr.. President. Take the war to those who attacked us! But to attack a soverign nation pre-emptively is against the UN and international laws... besides, these men don't pose any threat to us..they are sitting in little huts in the mountains..not on the shores of the USA.. Looks like your guy is following in the footsteps of that guy you hated so much before him... Yeah and he really followed through on his campaing promises and does what he says...no lobbiests, he has two...most ethical administration..he has two tax evaders for his choices for leadership positions..tax breaks for the poor...they don't even pay income taxes.. and he is just getting started... Take a few minutes away from that Move on group to pay attention..Iraq was issued UN Security resolutions, I think 17 of them to provide it with information about their nuclear and chemical weapons capabilities, they refused.. These resolutions called out for negotiations and if those failed, military action to punish Iraq. After repeatedly ignoring these resolutions, and along with information recieved ( in which dems and repubs alike agreed with) We along with the coalition invaded Iraq. What good does it do to tell someone to provide you with the info along with the threat of military action, if you don't follow through with action if they are ignored?? PLZ enlighten me. We supported Saddam because we could not allow Iran to invade Iraq. That's a stepping stone into Saudi Arabia, control of the Persian Gulf and straights of Hormuz and the worlds oil supply we could not let happen! Iraq fully armed and with our support could only fight Iran to a stand still. The Iran-Iraq war. So do tell how we can pull out now or in 16 months, 3 years, or a 100 years. How can Iraq defend its self? How can they control their own unrest????? We will never be out of Iraq..like we have never left Japan, Korea, Europe and other places as well...that is unless Obama brings world peace and all that good stuff.. |
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Why? Dont you read the news? Obama warns Pakistan on al-Qaeda Wednesday, 1 August 2007, 19:47 GMT 20:47 UK Mr Obama made the comments in a speech outlining his foreign policy positions. Pakistan's foreign ministry said any threat to act against al-Qaeda from within its territory should not be used for political point-scoring. Earlier this month, Mr Obama's chief rival, Hillary Clinton, described him as "naive" on foreign policy. The attack from Mrs Clinton came after a televised debate between Democrat presidential hopefuls. During the debate Mr Obama said he would be willing to meet leaders of states such as Cuba, North Korea and Iran without conditions. In his speech at the Woodrow Wilson International Center for Scholars, in Washington, Mr Obama criticised the Bush administration's focus on al-Qaeda in Iraq, saying US President George W Bush was "confusing" the mission. He said Americans were more vulnerable to terrorist attacks than before the 9/11 attacks because of a war in Iraq "that should never have been authorised and should never have been waged". "The first step must be getting off the wrong battlefield in Iraq, and taking the fight to the terrorists in Afghanistan and Pakistan," he said. Aid conditions Mr Obama said General Pervez Musharraf, Pakistan's president, must do more to end terrorist operations in his country. He said he would make the hundreds of millions of dollars in US military aid to Pakistan conditional on the following actions by the Pakistani government: substantial progress in closing down terrorist training camps evict foreign fighters prevent the Taleban from using Pakistan as staging area for attacks in Afghanistan "It was a terrible mistake to fail to act when we had a chance to take out an al-Qaeda leadership meeting in 2005," he said, referring to reports that the US had decided not to launch a strike for fear of harming ties with Pakistan. "If we have actionable intelligence about high-value terrorist targets and President Musharraf won't act, we will," Mr Obama said. The BBC's Jonathan Beale, in Washington, says such comments are clearly designed to bolster his credentials among a domestic audience. But a spokeswoman for Pakistan's foreign ministry, Tasnim Aslam, told the AFP news agency that talk of military action was a serious matter and political candidates and commentators should "show responsibility". White House spokesman Tony Snow defended Pakistan's leadership, saying it was working hard to fight al-Qaeda and Taleban fighters within its borders. Gen Musharraf has been a key US ally in its so-called "war on terror" since the 11 September 2001 terrorist attacks. But US officials have publicly said recently that they believe Pakistan has let al-Qaeda and Taleban militants reorganise themselves in tribal areas bordering Afghanistan. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6926663.stm Funny how he continues to do exactly what he said he would. Finally a President who says what he means and does what he says. You go Mr.. President. Take the war to those who attacked us! But to attack a soverign nation pre-emptively is against the UN and international laws... besides, these men don't pose any threat to us..they are sitting in little huts in the mountains..not on the shores of the USA.. Looks like your guy is following in the footsteps of that guy you hated so much before him... Yeah and he really followed through on his campaing promises and does what he says...no lobbiests, he has two...most ethical administration..he has two tax evaders for his choices for leadership positions..tax breaks for the poor...they don't even pay income taxes.. and he is just getting started... Take a few minutes away from that Move on group to pay attention..Iraq was issued UN Security resolutions, I think 17 of them to provide it with information about their nuclear and chemical weapons capabilities, they refused.. These resolutions called out for negotiations and if those failed, military action to punish Iraq. After repeatedly ignoring these resolutions, and along with information recieved ( in which dems and repubs alike agreed with) We along with the coalition invaded Iraq. What good does it do to tell someone to provide you with the info along with the threat of military action, if you don't follow through with action if they are ignored?? PLZ enlighten me. We supported Saddam because we could not allow Iran to invade Iraq. That's a stepping stone into Saudi Arabia, control of the Persian Gulf and straights of Hormuz and the worlds oil supply we could not let happen! Iraq fully armed and with our support could only fight Iran to a stand still. The Iran-Iraq war. So do tell how we can pull out now or in 16 months, 3 years, or a 100 years. How can Iraq defend its self? How can they control their own unrest????? We will never be out of Iraq..like we have never left Japan, Korea, Europe and other places as well...that is unless Obama brings world peace and all that good stuff.. |
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Why? Dont you read the news? Obama warns Pakistan on al-Qaeda Wednesday, 1 August 2007, 19:47 GMT 20:47 UK Mr Obama made the comments in a speech outlining his foreign policy positions. Pakistan's foreign ministry said any threat to act against al-Qaeda from within its territory should not be used for political point-scoring. Earlier this month, Mr Obama's chief rival, Hillary Clinton, described him as "naive" on foreign policy. The attack from Mrs Clinton came after a televised debate between Democrat presidential hopefuls. During the debate Mr Obama said he would be willing to meet leaders of states such as Cuba, North Korea and Iran without conditions. In his speech at the Woodrow Wilson International Center for Scholars, in Washington, Mr Obama criticised the Bush administration's focus on al-Qaeda in Iraq, saying US President George W Bush was "confusing" the mission. He said Americans were more vulnerable to terrorist attacks than before the 9/11 attacks because of a war in Iraq "that should never have been authorised and should never have been waged". "The first step must be getting off the wrong battlefield in Iraq, and taking the fight to the terrorists in Afghanistan and Pakistan," he said. Aid conditions Mr Obama said General Pervez Musharraf, Pakistan's president, must do more to end terrorist operations in his country. He said he would make the hundreds of millions of dollars in US military aid to Pakistan conditional on the following actions by the Pakistani government: substantial progress in closing down terrorist training camps evict foreign fighters prevent the Taleban from using Pakistan as staging area for attacks in Afghanistan "It was a terrible mistake to fail to act when we had a chance to take out an al-Qaeda leadership meeting in 2005," he said, referring to reports that the US had decided not to launch a strike for fear of harming ties with Pakistan. "If we have actionable intelligence about high-value terrorist targets and President Musharraf won't act, we will," Mr Obama said. The BBC's Jonathan Beale, in Washington, says such comments are clearly designed to bolster his credentials among a domestic audience. But a spokeswoman for Pakistan's foreign ministry, Tasnim Aslam, told the AFP news agency that talk of military action was a serious matter and political candidates and commentators should "show responsibility". White House spokesman Tony Snow defended Pakistan's leadership, saying it was working hard to fight al-Qaeda and Taleban fighters within its borders. Gen Musharraf has been a key US ally in its so-called "war on terror" since the 11 September 2001 terrorist attacks. But US officials have publicly said recently that they believe Pakistan has let al-Qaeda and Taleban militants reorganise themselves in tribal areas bordering Afghanistan. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6926663.stm Funny how he continues to do exactly what he said he would. Finally a President who says what he means and does what he says. You go Mr.. President. Take the war to those who attacked us! But to attack a soverign nation pre-emptively is against the UN and international laws... besides, these men don't pose any threat to us..they are sitting in little huts in the mountains..not on the shores of the USA.. Looks like your guy is following in the footsteps of that guy you hated so much before him... Yeah and he really followed through on his campaing promises and does what he says...no lobbiests, he has two...most ethical administration..he has two tax evaders for his choices for leadership positions..tax breaks for the poor...they don't even pay income taxes.. and he is just getting started... Take a few minutes away from that Move on group to pay attention..Iraq was issued UN Security resolutions, I think 17 of them to provide it with information about their nuclear and chemical weapons capabilities, they refused.. These resolutions called out for negotiations and if those failed, military action to punish Iraq. After repeatedly ignoring these resolutions, and along with information recieved ( in which dems and repubs alike agreed with) We along with the coalition invaded Iraq. What good does it do to tell someone to provide you with the info along with the threat of military action, if you don't follow through with action if they are ignored?? PLZ enlighten me. We supported Saddam because we could not allow Iran to invade Iraq. That's a stepping stone into Saudi Arabia, control of the Persian Gulf and straights of Hormuz and the worlds oil supply we could not let happen! Iraq fully armed and with our support could only fight Iran to a stand still. The Iran-Iraq war. So do tell how we can pull out now or in 16 months, 3 years, or a 100 years. How can Iraq defend its self? How can they control their own unrest????? We will never be out of Iraq..like we have never left Japan, Korea, Europe and other places as well...that is unless Obama brings world peace and all that good stuff.. Are you going to fight against all the cuts that Obama will make in our intelligence agencies, just like Clinton did?? |
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First of all...let's get the actual story straight. Missiles kill at least 18 in Pakistan AFTER president Obama takes office. Suspected U.S. missiles killed 18 people on the Pakistan side of the Afghan border Friday, security officials said, the first attacks on the al-Qaida stronghold since President Barack Obama took office. Big difference from saying HE killed them. yeah...well, I couldn't even read your whole post, I was looking at your profile picture.. 
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Why? Dont you read the news? Obama warns Pakistan on al-Qaeda Wednesday, 1 August 2007, 19:47 GMT 20:47 UK Mr Obama made the comments in a speech outlining his foreign policy positions. Pakistan's foreign ministry said any threat to act against al-Qaeda from within its territory should not be used for political point-scoring. Earlier this month, Mr Obama's chief rival, Hillary Clinton, described him as "naive" on foreign policy. The attack from Mrs Clinton came after a televised debate between Democrat presidential hopefuls. During the debate Mr Obama said he would be willing to meet leaders of states such as Cuba, North Korea and Iran without conditions. In his speech at the Woodrow Wilson International Center for Scholars, in Washington, Mr Obama criticised the Bush administration's focus on al-Qaeda in Iraq, saying US President George W Bush was "confusing" the mission. He said Americans were more vulnerable to terrorist attacks than before the 9/11 attacks because of a war in Iraq "that should never have been authorised and should never have been waged". "The first step must be getting off the wrong battlefield in Iraq, and taking the fight to the terrorists in Afghanistan and Pakistan," he said. Aid conditions Mr Obama said General Pervez Musharraf, Pakistan's president, must do more to end terrorist operations in his country. He said he would make the hundreds of millions of dollars in US military aid to Pakistan conditional on the following actions by the Pakistani government: substantial progress in closing down terrorist training camps evict foreign fighters prevent the Taleban from using Pakistan as staging area for attacks in Afghanistan "It was a terrible mistake to fail to act when we had a chance to take out an al-Qaeda leadership meeting in 2005," he said, referring to reports that the US had decided not to launch a strike for fear of harming ties with Pakistan. "If we have actionable intelligence about high-value terrorist targets and President Musharraf won't act, we will," Mr Obama said. The BBC's Jonathan Beale, in Washington, says such comments are clearly designed to bolster his credentials among a domestic audience. But a spokeswoman for Pakistan's foreign ministry, Tasnim Aslam, told the AFP news agency that talk of military action was a serious matter and political candidates and commentators should "show responsibility". White House spokesman Tony Snow defended Pakistan's leadership, saying it was working hard to fight al-Qaeda and Taleban fighters within its borders. Gen Musharraf has been a key US ally in its so-called "war on terror" since the 11 September 2001 terrorist attacks. But US officials have publicly said recently that they believe Pakistan has let al-Qaeda and Taleban militants reorganise themselves in tribal areas bordering Afghanistan. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6926663.stm Funny how he continues to do exactly what he said he would. Finally a President who says what he means and does what he says. You go Mr.. President. Take the war to those who attacked us! But to attack a soverign nation pre-emptively is against the UN and international laws... besides, these men don't pose any threat to us..they are sitting in little huts in the mountains..not on the shores of the USA.. Looks like your guy is following in the footsteps of that guy you hated so much before him... Yeah and he really followed through on his campaing promises and does what he says...no lobbiests, he has two...most ethical administration..he has two tax evaders for his choices for leadership positions..tax breaks for the poor...they don't even pay income taxes.. and he is just getting started... Take a few minutes away from that Move on group to pay attention..Iraq was issued UN Security resolutions, I think 17 of them to provide it with information about their nuclear and chemical weapons capabilities, they refused.. These resolutions called out for negotiations and if those failed, military action to punish Iraq. After repeatedly ignoring these resolutions, and along with information recieved ( in which dems and repubs alike agreed with) We along with the coalition invaded Iraq. What good does it do to tell someone to provide you with the info along with the threat of military action, if you don't follow through with action if they are ignored?? PLZ enlighten me. We supported Saddam because we could not allow Iran to invade Iraq. That's a stepping stone into Saudi Arabia, control of the Persian Gulf and straights of Hormuz and the worlds oil supply we could not let happen! Iraq fully armed and with our support could only fight Iran to a stand still. The Iran-Iraq war. So do tell how we can pull out now or in 16 months, 3 years, or a 100 years. How can Iraq defend its self? How can they control their own unrest????? We will never be out of Iraq..like we have never left Japan, Korea, Europe and other places as well...that is unless Obama brings world peace and all that good stuff.. Are you going to fight against all the cuts that Obama will make in our intelligence agencies, just like Clinton did?? The problem with the intelligence agencys is not the funding but how they are managed. Will Obama fix this probably not. Why put more money into something that fails to provide what it is intended to. Its time to make them work not give more money for the same!!! |
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Why? Dont you read the news? Obama warns Pakistan on al-Qaeda Wednesday, 1 August 2007, 19:47 GMT 20:47 UK Mr Obama made the comments in a speech outlining his foreign policy positions. Pakistan's foreign ministry said any threat to act against al-Qaeda from within its territory should not be used for political point-scoring. Earlier this month, Mr Obama's chief rival, Hillary Clinton, described him as "naive" on foreign policy. The attack from Mrs Clinton came after a televised debate between Democrat presidential hopefuls. During the debate Mr Obama said he would be willing to meet leaders of states such as Cuba, North Korea and Iran without conditions. In his speech at the Woodrow Wilson International Center for Scholars, in Washington, Mr Obama criticised the Bush administration's focus on al-Qaeda in Iraq, saying US President George W Bush was "confusing" the mission. He said Americans were more vulnerable to terrorist attacks than before the 9/11 attacks because of a war in Iraq "that should never have been authorised and should never have been waged". "The first step must be getting off the wrong battlefield in Iraq, and taking the fight to the terrorists in Afghanistan and Pakistan," he said. Aid conditions Mr Obama said General Pervez Musharraf, Pakistan's president, must do more to end terrorist operations in his country. He said he would make the hundreds of millions of dollars in US military aid to Pakistan conditional on the following actions by the Pakistani government: substantial progress in closing down terrorist training camps evict foreign fighters prevent the Taleban from using Pakistan as staging area for attacks in Afghanistan "It was a terrible mistake to fail to act when we had a chance to take out an al-Qaeda leadership meeting in 2005," he said, referring to reports that the US had decided not to launch a strike for fear of harming ties with Pakistan. "If we have actionable intelligence about high-value terrorist targets and President Musharraf won't act, we will," Mr Obama said. The BBC's Jonathan Beale, in Washington, says such comments are clearly designed to bolster his credentials among a domestic audience. But a spokeswoman for Pakistan's foreign ministry, Tasnim Aslam, told the AFP news agency that talk of military action was a serious matter and political candidates and commentators should "show responsibility". White House spokesman Tony Snow defended Pakistan's leadership, saying it was working hard to fight al-Qaeda and Taleban fighters within its borders. Gen Musharraf has been a key US ally in its so-called "war on terror" since the 11 September 2001 terrorist attacks. But US officials have publicly said recently that they believe Pakistan has let al-Qaeda and Taleban militants reorganise themselves in tribal areas bordering Afghanistan. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6926663.stm Funny how he continues to do exactly what he said he would. Finally a President who says what he means and does what he says. You go Mr.. President. Take the war to those who attacked us! But to attack a soverign nation pre-emptively is against the UN and international laws... besides, these men don't pose any threat to us..they are sitting in little huts in the mountains..not on the shores of the USA.. Looks like your guy is following in the footsteps of that guy you hated so much before him... Yeah and he really followed through on his campaing promises and does what he says...no lobbiests, he has two...most ethical administration..he has two tax evaders for his choices for leadership positions..tax breaks for the poor...they don't even pay income taxes.. and he is just getting started... Take a few minutes away from that Move on group to pay attention..Iraq was issued UN Security resolutions, I think 17 of them to provide it with information about their nuclear and chemical weapons capabilities, they refused.. These resolutions called out for negotiations and if those failed, military action to punish Iraq. After repeatedly ignoring these resolutions, and along with information recieved ( in which dems and repubs alike agreed with) We along with the coalition invaded Iraq. What good does it do to tell someone to provide you with the info along with the threat of military action, if you don't follow through with action if they are ignored?? PLZ enlighten me. We supported Saddam because we could not allow Iran to invade Iraq. That's a stepping stone into Saudi Arabia, control of the Persian Gulf and straights of Hormuz and the worlds oil supply we could not let happen! Iraq fully armed and with our support could only fight Iran to a stand still. The Iran-Iraq war. So do tell how we can pull out now or in 16 months, 3 years, or a 100 years. How can Iraq defend its self? How can they control their own unrest????? We will never be out of Iraq..like we have never left Japan, Korea, Europe and other places as well...that is unless Obama brings world peace and all that good stuff.. Are you going to fight against all the cuts that Obama will make in our intelligence agencies, just like Clinton did?? The problem with the intelligence agencys is not the funding but how they are managed. Will Obama fix this probably not. Why put more money into something that fails to provide what it is intended to. Its time to make them work not give more money for the same!!! You sound like me on public schools...more money is the cry but the scores keep going down...will Obama fix it...not a chance..they need under-educated people to become dependant on the government handouts to maintain power... |
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Why? Dont you read the news? Obama warns Pakistan on al-Qaeda Wednesday, 1 August 2007, 19:47 GMT 20:47 UK Mr Obama made the comments in a speech outlining his foreign policy positions. Pakistan's foreign ministry said any threat to act against al-Qaeda from within its territory should not be used for political point-scoring. Earlier this month, Mr Obama's chief rival, Hillary Clinton, described him as "naive" on foreign policy. The attack from Mrs Clinton came after a televised debate between Democrat presidential hopefuls. During the debate Mr Obama said he would be willing to meet leaders of states such as Cuba, North Korea and Iran without conditions. In his speech at the Woodrow Wilson International Center for Scholars, in Washington, Mr Obama criticised the Bush administration's focus on al-Qaeda in Iraq, saying US President George W Bush was "confusing" the mission. He said Americans were more vulnerable to terrorist attacks than before the 9/11 attacks because of a war in Iraq "that should never have been authorised and should never have been waged". "The first step must be getting off the wrong battlefield in Iraq, and taking the fight to the terrorists in Afghanistan and Pakistan," he said. Aid conditions Mr Obama said General Pervez Musharraf, Pakistan's president, must do more to end terrorist operations in his country. He said he would make the hundreds of millions of dollars in US military aid to Pakistan conditional on the following actions by the Pakistani government: substantial progress in closing down terrorist training camps evict foreign fighters prevent the Taleban from using Pakistan as staging area for attacks in Afghanistan "It was a terrible mistake to fail to act when we had a chance to take out an al-Qaeda leadership meeting in 2005," he said, referring to reports that the US had decided not to launch a strike for fear of harming ties with Pakistan. "If we have actionable intelligence about high-value terrorist targets and President Musharraf won't act, we will," Mr Obama said. The BBC's Jonathan Beale, in Washington, says such comments are clearly designed to bolster his credentials among a domestic audience. But a spokeswoman for Pakistan's foreign ministry, Tasnim Aslam, told the AFP news agency that talk of military action was a serious matter and political candidates and commentators should "show responsibility". White House spokesman Tony Snow defended Pakistan's leadership, saying it was working hard to fight al-Qaeda and Taleban fighters within its borders. Gen Musharraf has been a key US ally in its so-called "war on terror" since the 11 September 2001 terrorist attacks. But US officials have publicly said recently that they believe Pakistan has let al-Qaeda and Taleban militants reorganise themselves in tribal areas bordering Afghanistan. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6926663.stm Funny how he continues to do exactly what he said he would. Finally a President who says what he means and does what he says. You go Mr.. President. Take the war to those who attacked us! But to attack a soverign nation pre-emptively is against the UN and international laws... besides, these men don't pose any threat to us..they are sitting in little huts in the mountains..not on the shores of the USA.. Looks like your guy is following in the footsteps of that guy you hated so much before him... Yeah and he really followed through on his campaing promises and does what he says...no lobbiests, he has two...most ethical administration..he has two tax evaders for his choices for leadership positions..tax breaks for the poor...they don't even pay income taxes.. and he is just getting started... Take a few minutes away from that Move on group to pay attention..Iraq was issued UN Security resolutions, I think 17 of them to provide it with information about their nuclear and chemical weapons capabilities, they refused.. These resolutions called out for negotiations and if those failed, military action to punish Iraq. After repeatedly ignoring these resolutions, and along with information recieved ( in which dems and repubs alike agreed with) We along with the coalition invaded Iraq. What good does it do to tell someone to provide you with the info along with the threat of military action, if you don't follow through with action if they are ignored?? PLZ enlighten me. We supported Saddam because we could not allow Iran to invade Iraq. That's a stepping stone into Saudi Arabia, control of the Persian Gulf and straights of Hormuz and the worlds oil supply we could not let happen! Iraq fully armed and with our support could only fight Iran to a stand still. The Iran-Iraq war. So do tell how we can pull out now or in 16 months, 3 years, or a 100 years. How can Iraq defend its self? How can they control their own unrest????? We will never be out of Iraq..like we have never left Japan, Korea, Europe and other places as well...that is unless Obama brings world peace and all that good stuff.. Are you going to fight against all the cuts that Obama will make in our intelligence agencies, just like Clinton did?? The problem with the intelligence agencys is not the funding but how they are managed. Will Obama fix this probably not. Why put more money into something that fails to provide what it is intended to. Its time to make them work not give more money for the same!!! You sound like me on public schools...more money is the cry but the scores keep going down...will Obama fix it...not a chance..they need under-educated people to become dependant on the government handouts to maintain power... |
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Since when don't the poor pay taxes? They pay taxes on their income. They pay sales tax, personal property tax, and they pay real estate taxes if they own a home. They still pay real estate taxes if they rent too. The owner includes it in the rent cost. I didn't say all taxes, I said Income tax.. the federal income tax that they don't pay.. Obamas plan is to give them a "federal tax break"...he cannot dictate( as much as most people believe that he is the Messiah)state and local tax policy.. Everything low income people have taken out of their paychecks for federal income tax...tehy get back and sometimes with the Earned Income Tax benifit, tehy get more back then was held from their paychecks..So how can you give them a tax break on something that they don't pay? My apologies, you're correct, you did refer to income taxes. I've never heard about anybody getting more back then they put in. Funny - no Democrats think he's a Messiah. I've only heard Republicans say that he was. I have a Messiah and it's not Obama. 
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Beorganic.... What an oxymoron considering you have more artificial qualities than a painted landscape and flip flop more than John McCain during a campaign. When you and your "life-partner" adopt your children feel free to name them after as many soft drinks as you two fellows want. Better a soft drink than a shrub I guess, but its your gentlemen's freedom to name them anything you chose.. P.S. Please if the child decides to enter politics dont give them any advice.... 
Fanta46, That was a mean spirited personal attack on BeeOrganic. You are not being very nice. It's ok. If Fanta feels the need to lash out, with libelous lowest common denominator, off topic, innuendo, he's free to. I can handle his personal online comments/attacks and him personally with no problems what-so-ever. Like always, will assume the high road, proving once again that some people are just simply smarter and better (possess more class) than others. At least one of us knows how to choose his battles wisely. "Aquila non capit muscam" |
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Why? Dont you read the news? Obama warns Pakistan on al-Qaeda Wednesday, 1 August 2007, 19:47 GMT 20:47 UK Mr Obama made the comments in a speech outlining his foreign policy positions. Pakistan's foreign ministry said any threat to act against al-Qaeda from within its territory should not be used for political point-scoring. Earlier this month, Mr Obama's chief rival, Hillary Clinton, described him as "naive" on foreign policy. The attack from Mrs Clinton came after a televised debate between Democrat presidential hopefuls. During the debate Mr Obama said he would be willing to meet leaders of states such as Cuba, North Korea and Iran without conditions. In his speech at the Woodrow Wilson International Center for Scholars, in Washington, Mr Obama criticised the Bush administration's focus on al-Qaeda in Iraq, saying US President George W Bush was "confusing" the mission. He said Americans were more vulnerable to terrorist attacks than before the 9/11 attacks because of a war in Iraq "that should never have been authorised and should never have been waged". "The first step must be getting off the wrong battlefield in Iraq, and taking the fight to the terrorists in Afghanistan and Pakistan," he said. Aid conditions Mr Obama said General Pervez Musharraf, Pakistan's president, must do more to end terrorist operations in his country. He said he would make the hundreds of millions of dollars in US military aid to Pakistan conditional on the following actions by the Pakistani government: substantial progress in closing down terrorist training camps evict foreign fighters prevent the Taleban from using Pakistan as staging area for attacks in Afghanistan "It was a terrible mistake to fail to act when we had a chance to take out an al-Qaeda leadership meeting in 2005," he said, referring to reports that the US had decided not to launch a strike for fear of harming ties with Pakistan. "If we have actionable intelligence about high-value terrorist targets and President Musharraf won't act, we will," Mr Obama said. The BBC's Jonathan Beale, in Washington, says such comments are clearly designed to bolster his credentials among a domestic audience. But a spokeswoman for Pakistan's foreign ministry, Tasnim Aslam, told the AFP news agency that talk of military action was a serious matter and political candidates and commentators should "show responsibility". White House spokesman Tony Snow defended Pakistan's leadership, saying it was working hard to fight al-Qaeda and Taleban fighters within its borders. Gen Musharraf has been a key US ally in its so-called "war on terror" since the 11 September 2001 terrorist attacks. But US officials have publicly said recently that they believe Pakistan has let al-Qaeda and Taleban militants reorganise themselves in tribal areas bordering Afghanistan. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6926663.stm Funny how he continues to do exactly what he said he would. Finally a President who says what he means and does what he says. You go Mr.. President. Take the war to those who attacked us! But to attack a soverign nation pre-emptively is against the UN and international laws... besides, these men don't pose any threat to us..they are sitting in little huts in the mountains..not on the shores of the USA.. Looks like your guy is following in the footsteps of that guy you hated so much before him... Yeah and he really followed through on his campaing promises and does what he says...no lobbiests, he has two...most ethical administration..he has two tax evaders for his choices for leadership positions..tax breaks for the poor...they don't even pay income taxes.. and he is just getting started... Take a few minutes away from that Move on group to pay attention..Iraq was issued UN Security resolutions, I think 17 of them to provide it with information about their nuclear and chemical weapons capabilities, they refused.. These resolutions called out for negotiations and if those failed, military action to punish Iraq. After repeatedly ignoring these resolutions, and along with information recieved ( in which dems and repubs alike agreed with) We along with the coalition invaded Iraq. What good does it do to tell someone to provide you with the info along with the threat of military action, if you don't follow through with action if they are ignored?? PLZ enlighten me. We supported Saddam because we could not allow Iran to invade Iraq. That's a stepping stone into Saudi Arabia, control of the Persian Gulf and straights of Hormuz and the worlds oil supply we could not let happen! Iraq fully armed and with our support could only fight Iran to a stand still. The Iran-Iraq war. So do tell how we can pull out now or in 16 months, 3 years, or a 100 years. How can Iraq defend its self? How can they control their own unrest????? We will never be out of Iraq..like we have never left Japan, Korea, Europe and other places as well...that is unless Obama brings world peace and all that good stuff.. Are you going to fight against all the cuts that Obama will make in our intelligence agencies, just like Clinton did?? If he makes cuts on the CIA not only is he a fool we're all in trouble |
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"Aquila non capit muscam" Ditto. When one loses his face, it is because he only thought he had one. |
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Take a few minutes away from that Move on group to pay attention..Iraq was issued UN Security resolutions, I think 17 of them to provide it with information about their nuclear and chemical weapons capabilities, they refused.. These resolutions called out for negotiations and if those failed, military action to punish Iraq. After repeatedly ignoring these resolutions, and along with information recieved ( in which dems and repubs alike agreed with) We along with the coalition invaded Iraq. What good does it do to tell someone to provide you with the info along with the threat of military action, if you don't follow through with action if they are ignored?? Man-oh-man. You are out of touch,,,,, 
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Beorganic.... What an oxymoron considering you have more artificial qualities than a painted landscape and flip flop more than John McCain during a campaign. When you and your "life-partner" adopt your children feel free to name them after as many soft drinks as you two fellows want. Better a soft drink than a shrub I guess, but its your gentlemen's freedom to name them anything you chose.. P.S. Please if the child decides to enter politics dont give them any advice....
Fanta46, That was a mean spirited personal attack on BeeOrganic. You are not being very nice. It's ok. If Fanta feels the need to lash out, with libelous lowest common denominator, off topic, innuendo, he's free to. I can handle his personal online comments/attacks and him personally with no problems what-so-ever. Like always, will assume the high road, proving once again that some people are just simply smarter and better (possess more class) than others. At least one of us knows how to choose his battles wisely. "Aquila non capit muscam" Is that why your only rude to women and disappear every time I'm online? No the eagle doesnt hunt flies, he hunts small rodents and little bunnies, while steering clear of the coyote. |
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Voil is right.
Your slow.....
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Take a few minutes away from that Move on group to pay attention..Iraq was issued UN Security resolutions, I think 17 of them to provide it with information about their nuclear and chemical weapons capabilities, they refused.. These resolutions called out for negotiations and if those failed, military action to punish Iraq. After repeatedly ignoring these resolutions, and along with information recieved ( in which dems and repubs alike agreed with) We along with the coalition invaded Iraq. What good does it do to tell someone to provide you with the info along with the threat of military action, if you don't follow through with action if they are ignored?? Man-oh-man. You are out of touch,,,,,
you have a short memory |
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Take a few minutes away from that Move on group to pay attention..Iraq was issued UN Security resolutions, I think 17 of them to provide it with information about their nuclear and chemical weapons capabilities, they refused.. These resolutions called out for negotiations and if those failed, military action to punish Iraq. After repeatedly ignoring these resolutions, and along with information recieved ( in which dems and repubs alike agreed with) We along with the coalition invaded Iraq. What good does it do to tell someone to provide you with the info along with the threat of military action, if you don't follow through with action if they are ignored?? Man-oh-man. You are out of touch,,,,,
you have a short memory Its not worth it nobody remember that it was sanctioned by the UN bcs the media has distorted it, twisting it and turning it until the view fits what they wish it to. Just like any scientific study the truth can be twisted to match any viewpoint you wish it too. Saving your typing fingers, and let them be duped into the propaganda if they wish it. |
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