Sorry to inform you 'beeorganic' that you are missinformed and I fear for this new tack you are pressing up against.

I have followed these threads for a while now. In addition, I have kept a close eye on FOX news, because I learned from these threads that FOX was the ONLY fair and balanced source of news in the whole world,

... and I must assure you 'beeorganic', that in spite of some 'unfounded critics' (their source wasn't FOX news), the truth has always prevailed in these threads, and 'bush' is reponsible of nothing!!!

The 'right' people, those that have 'FOX' AND 'god' on their side, ESTABLISHED VERY CLEARLY OVER AND ABOVE ALL POSSIBLE (FALSE) INFORMATION TO THE CONTRARY, that 'bush' was repsonsible for none of the things that have taken place during his 8 years in office!

Not his fault period!

According to the 'right' sources (FOX and GOD), it was always something or someone else that was accountable for the unnamable 8 year mess.

I heard Clinton was a big part, and Congress, well now there you go! The right people, righteously, point to the tail-end second mandate 2 years of the Democratic Congress as the cause of the 6 previous years of failures.

And when that didn't wash, the 'right' people righteously came back to Clinton, such a powerful guy, that he ruled the White House throughout the years Bush occupied it it seems, according to the 'right' people's truth (given that FOX and GOD are on their side). What a Bully this Clinton guy! Poor Bush!!!

So, there you have it 'beorganic', whatever 'they' might come up with to blame 'bush',

... 'BUSH HASN'T BEEN RESPONSIBLE FOR ANYTHING ON ANY DAY OF HIS ENTIRE LIFE!'

So as you say, 'what's good for the geese, is good for the gander'!!!

I hope you'll feel relieved that your recent conversion was totally unnecessary, and agree that this 'born again' liberal thread is profoundly obsolete!!!

For your own salvation sake, don't spit on the 'right' people 'beorganic', and do come back to the 'right' flock!!!

As always!!

Here's right back at you my friend!

I just feel its always a blame game when all of Washington bears responsibility.....enjoyed your sarcasm though Its been generations in building to what it has become it didnt get there overnight or even eight years...

ya ok..... what i know is that this is not true.... someone just trying to make obama out to be something... witch is not going to work...

what is your scource .. i tryed google and i watch CNN every darn day??????

Other than stretching it to '... all of US bear responsiblity...',

... we share the same page 'seakolony'

I see about what you are speaking but where it was concerned for the US repsonse on terrorism the US peoples thirst for revenge at the time did propel it to a certain extent IMO.....not suggesting that you share in that opinion but did enjoy the sarcastic witt

ok i saw the link and went to it... your post is longer then the story it self... those attacks have been going on for a while... you make it seem like obama just said TO KILL... thats what the media does... takes something small and blows it up three times bigger then it reall is.... i think you really must not like obama lol

"Dont worry, these posters are just trying to find anything and everything they can that might in someway connect Barrak to something negative.
Its all part of their Sour Grapes campaign". This same kind of comment that was typically spoken by those who supported the previous (and worse)presidential administration in history...when we weren't in power. If we (me and my fellow liberals/democrats) really want "change", I think like it has to start by not imitating them. Unnfortunately, my dearly beloved leader Obama is imitating that war mongering, alcoholic, murdering despot Bush in the killing fields of Pakistan. It really makes me feel sad.

I would encourage you not to fall for those rascally republican tricks my friend. If you want to talk about sour grapes, all those evil conservative republicans have to do is remind you of the 2000 election... which some could say went way further that sour grapes. Some of my poor, overly emotional fellow liberals are so distraught... they're still urinating vinegar to this day about it (and in therapy).

I like really think we need to get past all this hate, bitterness, and intolerance of others. Let those nasty skank republicans (the party of hate and racism) drown in their own rhetorical sewage. We as liberal democrats are better and smarter than them and we always will be... we just have to prove it, somehow. Obama continuing the failed policies of that miserable wretch Bush is not a good start.

You can not just wothdrawl and let them crash and burn....and if we just pull out, we will open the world up to even more attacks than what is going on right now.

Whether we agree or not with what was started, it must be finished in order to protect against further travosties from occuring around the world. Did everyone expect the change in government would just stop what has already begun???

The democrats stated even before the election the it would be difficult to withdrwal w/o opening up the world to further terroristic attacks and tactics....and do you think that the people that have suffered due to our attacks against removing the genecide and terrorism in their country, should be left to pick up the pieces, starve and undergo abuse and endure terroristic attacks upon their country and people just bcs we pull out??? Where is the humanitarianism in that???

Sorry my unenlightened conservative friend, you are like the one so totally misinformed. FIX news is just the propaganda wing of the rePUKEblincan party. I heard that FIX news was importing poor, pregnant, non-union, illegal aliens to work for them after these desperate women could no longer be exploited in cutting down trees in the Amazon rain forrest. Working 18 hours a day dragging these huge logs out of snake and mosquito infested areas by hand (according to a top secret Red Cross report). I forgot to mention they are starving them too and forced to wear a ball and chain... with no bathroom breaks. I think I saw Sean Hannity waterboarding one of them in background shot during the Glenn Beck show on a youtube clip too.

I repectfully submit if that liar Bush wasn't responsible for anything, why is it that like tons and tons of people here say he is? As you say "the truth has always prevailed in these threads". All my fellow liberal minded friends can't be wrong, they posted links to unbiased sources. They are all enlightened, independent, great thinkers. I think the truth here has emerged in regards to that habitual criminal Bush. We all know Bush was nothing more than a two-bit cowboy, dictator puppet who would have taken every single right and liberty from us eventually... unlike the late benevolent humanitarian Sadam Hussien. It was the likes of FIX news who destroyed Mr. Hussien's reputation. He was on the cutting edge of abortion rights. Trying to save the planet from the woes of overpopulation and starvation. On behalf of my narrow minded fellow Americans I would like to apologize to the surviving members of Mr. Hussien's family.

Here we go again about Bill Clinton, can't we just move on? I don't mean to whine too much but it's President Obama now. How many times does it have to be said "what a president does in the privacy of the oval is none of our business"? We're just beating a dead horse (my apologies to my PETA friends if that analogy upsets you) talking about him. Next to Obama, Clinton was the greatest president since Jimmy Cater! The only president in recent memory to take the oath of office seriously and literally- "I will faithfully and impartially discharge and perform all the duties incumbent on me, according to the best of my abilities and understanding...". He was just doing his job and knew the pain I might feel, so he was kinda telling a little white lie to protect and shelter me from the pain like I think every president should do. With Clinton we had peace and prosperity... no blood for oil wars. Why? because Clinton was way smarter than those idiot Rebumblicans like Newt Grungerich in congress. I think like Obama could really learn a thing or two from former president Clinton is all I can say.

Nice try to manipulate me to go back to the "dark side". The side of Darth Cheney and the empire. Bush the proverbial "Evil Emperor" is to blame for every single problem in the entire world for the next 100 years (at least). Obama has now become his apprentice. As a "free-thinker", all your biased/doctored FIX news jedi mind clips generated by the most evil jedi of them all (Karl Rove)in the world won't change my mind. Keith Oberman of MSNBC is my Luke Skywalker.

I would encourage you to put away all your hates, all your fears brother, and judgemental behavior. Open your mind and heart. That lying, two-faced, thief Bush has clouded your reasoning. Come join us. Renounce your ways like I did and like-minded (open-minded) people will flock all around you, shower you with kind words and emoticons, and receive enough symbolic support to last a lifetime. Please try to pay attention here, I shall show you an example below.

Fanta46- Brilliant post! You are the master wordsmith! You're up there with the best! Never have I seen such a stunning display of eloqence combined with brevity. If my life-partner and I ever have children, I would like to name them all "Fanta".


BTW- Obama lied, innocent people in Pakistan died.

Sure we can just withdrawl our military personel from every country we currently occupy or have a miltary presence in and bring them home. Just pack up our toys of death/destruction and leave like we did in Vietnam. Has Vietnam attacked us since we left? Nope. It's not our job to serve as the world's police force, that's the UN's responsibility. Some of these other glorious super powers like China, Russia, and France can help. I know Hugo Chavez would chip in. Obama just has to swallow is pride and ask for help is all, instead of continuing the failed "lone wolf" policies of that brain dead Bush.

There is no way we can win this conflict because it's already lost. (according to Senator and leader of the senate Harry Reid). They are just preying on our fears now. Bin Laden said he wouldn't attack us anymore if we got out of the middle east. We're giving Obama a chance, I think like it's only fair that we give Bin Laden a chance too.

Every day we stay where we are not wanted or needed is one more day we put at risk the lives of our military troops. We could leave and instead of dropping bombs we could drop food, medical supplies, and things to help them rebuild their country. Just let them fill out a list of what all they need. Look at this way, it might help our economy by employing people to help fill and deliver all the things on that list. Let the Iraqi's keep their oil, we don't need it. Obama himself said we need to start learning to live with less.

Time out!!!

If I could only bring myself to believe one sentence, ONE WORD of your post 'beeorganic', I'd be willing to eternally live with the shame of having mascaraded as a 'right-whatever'.

I take it back, there is one sentence in there over which I am torn, and clearly undecided!?!?!?

Eventhough the rest 'mirrors' perfectly, I can't bring myself to believe that you could be a HANNITY fan!!!

I mean all mirror work aside, the whole Hannity fan thing just doesn't wash out.

You can put complete sentences together!
Your thoughts, whether one agrees with you or not, are coherent to a certain extent!
You are capable of sarcasm!!!

It's just a statistical impossibility! Your normal IQ simply washes out everything HANNITY!!!

OK you might have been influenced by the dark side, who knows, cultural up-bringing, and the whole affective dependency thing, but not to the extent of being a HANNITY DIE-HARD!!!

Please tell me it ain't so 'Sean'?!?!?


p.s.: you are aware of mirror I hope!?!?!

Its not about winning or freakin losing its mainly about humanitarianism and making sure they are okay in the aftermath of what the US caused and keeping them from being hurt any further and attacked by the ones that we freed them from, freedom from the horrors of the world they were living in, raped in order to control the people, murdered in their sleep, to prove a point, homes invaded my military and police for no purpose but to control and hurt others. I know that is not why we went in, but really does it matter anymore? It matters that they no longer suffer after we leave and try to leave them with their culture but without oppression. How much more damage do you wish to cause these people?? If we caused their issues isn't it our job to stay and clean it up too???
And why should that be the UN's job when the responsibility belongs to the friggin US, too?

If we were to pull all of our troops right now, the terrorist would return and take revenge against those that stood with the US. Is it there fault we invaded for weapons of mass destruction that were not proven to be there. They were allowed plenty of time to remove any weapons of mass destruction before the US invaded. They have plenty of bordering neighbors all to happy to help with that. Of course, none of it could be proven, but there are sneaking suspicions.

well spoken A i agree 100%
The UN isn't worth a F*&# we depend on ourselves that way we know get it done right

You guys still at it?
Buncha Sore Losers.

Who lost, really, who lost.....I think it was the Iraqi people oppressed by a cruel government and by the US that came in a killed their loved ones. And we are just supposed to withdrawal and leave them to more oppression and cruelty??? Do you care what has happened to these people??

Meanwhile, loving the fact that the US slips into Socialistic hell and an oppression of our own at home!! Do you have any memory of what the US was built on and any fear of what we are freakin becoming???

And the Bush Administration is just as guilty of pushing us more towards Socialism, but the one that started it all came out of "The Great Depression" beginning with the Johnson administration!! Where does it end when the US turns to Communism??

Im talkin the guys makin this post and then promoting it everyday.
the title is Obama and negatory.
My son is a 3 tour vet and a Navy Seal. Hes over there now on land assignment. Calls me every week and gives me the skinny on whats happening.

All I know is that America's been very very good to me, and Hooked On Phonics worked for ME!

Yay!