Topic: Woman blackmailed by former church
Thomas3474's photo
Thu 12/25/08 09:03 PM
Arguing this topic is pointless.I can give you a million similar situations from everything to country clubs to celebrities getting caught in bad situations and having to deal with the backlash.If you ever go to Salt lake city you will find out that it is a total Mormon city.They have a huge Mormon temple in the middle of the city.Unless you are a Mormon you are not getting in their church.I could lie and say I am a Mormon and get in but if they find out I am a Christian and get upset and get a megaphone and tell the whole city I am a Christian who am I to blame?

This woman had a choice-either break off the relationship and stay with the church or keep the relationship and get rid of the church.She chosed to break off with the church.We don't know what her position in the church was.She may have been a important person.The fact that her two sons still attends the church only shows that her two sons also think the church is not wrong for what it is doing.I can't say I feel too sorry for her.If I was a choir boy in church and someone saw me in a strip club then it would be no surprise if the whole town wanted to throw eggs at me.


I have no idea what you are talking about when you say God changed rules.The rules are the same they have always been and so have the 10 commandments.Did Jesus null and void any of Gods rules?He did not.The rules are the same but Jesus dying for the sins made them 1.)not punishable by death and 2.)Forgiven if you confess them.You also have to remember their is rules and there is commandments.No Christian could possibly follow all the rules of the bible which is why God and Jesus gave us the 10 simple commandments which anyone can follow.

Krimsa's photo
Thu 12/25/08 09:10 PM
Bottom line, once she left the church, they have no right to pursue her. What if she lost faith? She can leave at any time. The actions that the church is taking against her are clearly retaliatory in nature and I hope she sues.

adj4u's photo
Thu 12/25/08 09:31 PM
wow i would like to be the tv reporter covering this story

excuse me pastor may i have a word with yo know who from wxyz tv news


so you are saying what about this woman

bla bla bla


really that is very interesting

do you believe that sin is sin sir

bak ab....

that is a yes or no question sir

is sin measured in degrees and if so where does it say that

no sin is sin

so sir does it not say judge not yest ye be judged

yes it does

so sir is your sin not as evil as this woman's therefore making you just as bad if not worse as you are leading others into sin as well at least her sin only involved her and one other yet you are involving the full membership of your congregation.

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but hey

what do i know

no photo
Thu 12/25/08 09:50 PM
Unless I am wrong marriage didn't exist in the time of Adam and Eve so would they do the same to them as they are doing to this woman.

A church should be a place where you go to be with the God that loves you and understand you and is there to help you to give you comfort and forgiveness for whatever you want to share with God, not a place of fear, anger, revenge, judging others and forcing your belief upon them.

The relation between a person and God is a private thing and should stay that way he is the only one that can judge a person and no church should think that they can do God's work.

If I believed (by the way I do not) in God and was part of that church I would be very sad to see that the teaching of God is use to hurt people.

jdcolvin's photo
Thu 12/25/08 10:06 PM
Edited by jdcolvin on Thu 12/25/08 10:08 PM
Old testament or new the rules are the same for adultery...I didnt know there was a church left that would actually enforce these teachings....Anyone know the location of a church like this in NW Fla or SE ala...I want to support them----remorse and repentance is the only way to be forgiven and this lady hasnt done either let alone both

adj4u's photo
Thu 12/25/08 10:27 PM

Old testament or new the rules are the same for adultery...I didnt know there was a church left that would actually enforce these teachings....Anyone know the location of a church like this in NW Fla or SE ala...I want to support them----remorse and repentance is the only way to be forgiven and this lady hasnt done either let alone both



i do not think so. in the old testament they stoned them. what ever happened to judge no lest ye be judged?

ladypegasus's photo
Thu 12/25/08 10:55 PM
Did this church skip chapter 8 of the book of John?

Krimsa's photo
Fri 12/26/08 04:05 AM
I never even thought of that. Adam and Eve were never married yet they had two sons out of wedlock. laugh

no photo
Fri 12/26/08 09:22 AM

Why dont they just stone her?


because getting her stone on Marijuana would only make her more horny

no photo
Fri 12/26/08 10:24 AM
Edited by Alzeimer on Fri 12/26/08 10:24 AM

I never even thought of that. Adam and Eve were never married yet they had two sons out of wedlock. laugh


And who did her two sons have children with??????

Krimsa's photo
Fri 12/26/08 10:33 AM


I never even thought of that. Adam and Eve were never married yet they had two sons out of wedlock. laugh


And who did her two sons have children with??????


"And Cain knew his wife." That's nice, but where the hell did she come from? The Bible doesn't mention any of Cain's sisters. Well, maybe he married his mom. In any case, Cain and the mysterious Mrs. Cain have a son. His name is Enoch and he builds a city (population 3). huh

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Fri 12/26/08 10:50 AM



I never even thought of that. Adam and Eve were never married yet they had two sons out of wedlock. laugh


And who did her two sons have children with??????


"And Cain knew his wife." That's nice, but where the hell did she come from? The Bible doesn't mention any of Cain's sisters. Well, maybe he married his mom. In any case, Cain and the mysterious Mrs. Cain have a son. His name is Enoch and he builds a city (population 3). huh


I always wondered that, I guess when you have faith doesn't matter if you sin.

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Fri 12/26/08 10:55 AM

I always wondered that, I guess when you have faith doesn't matter if you sin.


If you have no faith it doesn't matter either.:laughing:

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Fri 12/26/08 02:11 PM




I never even thought of that. Adam and Eve were never married yet they had two sons out of wedlock. laugh


And who did her two sons have children with??????


"And Cain knew his wife." That's nice, but where the hell did she come from? The Bible doesn't mention any of Cain's sisters. Well, maybe he married his mom. In any case, Cain and the mysterious Mrs. Cain have a son. His name is Enoch and he builds a city (population 3). huh


I always wondered that, I guess when you have faith doesn't matter if you sin.


right, with faith you never have to ask why, you just blindly believe what anyone tells you.

Krimsa's photo
Fri 12/26/08 02:46 PM
Its also a grand excuse to kill people. Thats probably my biggest complaint with Organized Religion.

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Fri 12/26/08 02:58 PM

A 49-year-old Florida woman says her former church is threatening to reveal her sins to its congregation after learning that she is in a "sexually immoral relationship.
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Rebecca Hancock told FOXNews. com that Grace Community Church, a non-denominational church in Jacksonville, Fla., was against her relationship with boyfriend Frank Young because the two were sexually active but not married.


When she wasn’t willing to obey the church's orders to leave him, she decided to leave the church instead, allowing her two children to remain active members.


Now, she says, church elders have given her the worst ultimatum yet: In a Dec. 8 letter, they told her she either has to meet with them and end her "immoral" relationship or she will face public humiliation.


“Bottom line, on January they 4th they are going to the church publicly with my sins, and my children will be sitting in church at the time,” Hancock told FOXNews. com.


TO SEE THE REST OF THE STORY AND A COPY OF THE LETTER, GO TO http://www. foxnews. com/story/0,2933,469928,00. html
:laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: Damn thats some crazy ****:laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

no photo
Fri 12/26/08 02:58 PM

This is not news.Every church has laws and every member understands the rules and laws set by the church.If you are going to go against the teachings of your church then it should be no surprise if they get upset with you.I know this is especially true in small towns where everyone knows your business.I have been in churches where they are very strict about how you live your personal life and will scold you if they see you making a bad impression since you represent the image of the church.Although I do not think it is a bad thing for the church to scorn this woman for going against what her church is teaching her not to do.I disagree that the church should not make her sins public as this could be very embarassing.If I was in her situation I would go before the church and apologize and ask for forgiveness.



If I were her, I would tell them I wanted to go before the church and apologize and then give them the sermon of their lives, one they would probably never forget.

But not before I investigated the dirty laundry of every member including the pastor and I would then pull a harper valley P.T.A. on them.

I hate it when churches try to tell people how to live their private lives and promote the evil institute of marriage which is simply a contract with a man, a woman and the STATE.

Then I would insist that the church do background checks on every single member and on every person who showed any interest in joining.

I bet that church would not survive for long.




Winx's photo
Fri 12/26/08 03:00 PM

Yeah, I know of a church here that is like that. They base it on the bible teaching of confronting the sinner with one person and a witness and if they don't change you take some more people and then finally you tell eveyone. The first Sunday I went to this church the pastor got up and told us all about some guy by name who left his wife for another woman.



Wow, I didn't know that there were churches like that. That's sad.

Winx's photo
Fri 12/26/08 03:02 PM

This is not news.Every church has laws and every member understands the rules and laws set by the church.If you are going to go against the teachings of your church then it should be no surprise if they get upset with you.I know this is especially true in small towns where everyone knows your business.I have been in churches where they are very strict about how you live your personal life and will scold you if they see you making a bad impression since you represent the image of the church.Although I do not think it is a bad thing for the church to scorn this woman for going against what her church is teaching her not to do.I disagree that the church should not make her sins public as this could be very embarassing.If I was in her situation I would go before the church and apologize and ask for forgiveness.




It's news to me.

Krimsa's photo
Fri 12/26/08 03:12 PM
What I dont understand is that this poor woman LEFT. She left the church. What right did they have to pursue it at all? huh Does that mean if you join a church at some point in your life, its an eternally binding contract? Can you not just leave without facing retaliatory action?