Topic: Woman blackmailed by former church
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Fri 12/26/08 08:19 PM

(On the other hand the Lucerferian cults are evil and do practice the occult and even human sacrifice. But don't confuse these blood thirsty alien drones with Anton Levey's Satanists.
bigsmileI know that a lot of people make the mistake of getting the alien drones mixed up with the Satanist and Im grateful to you for reminding us of the difference JeannieBean.flowerforyou

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Fri 12/26/08 08:24 PM


(On the other hand the Lucerferian cults are evil and do practice the occult and even human sacrifice. But don't confuse these blood thirsty alien drones with Anton Levey's Satanists.
bigsmileI know that a lot of people make the mistake of getting the alien drones mixed up with the Satanist and Im grateful to you for reminding us of the difference JeannieBean.flowerforyou


rofl

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Fri 12/26/08 08:29 PM



(On the other hand the Lucerferian cults are evil and do practice the occult and even human sacrifice. But don't confuse these blood thirsty alien drones with Anton Levey's Satanists.
bigsmileI know that a lot of people make the mistake of getting the alien drones mixed up with the Satanist and Im grateful to you for reminding us of the difference JeannieBean.flowerforyou


rofl
bigsmile Theres a big difference.flowerforyou

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Fri 12/26/08 08:40 PM

bigsmile Theres a big difference.flowerforyou


I'm sure there is. :tongue:

P.S. JB, I'm not laughing at you! You know I believe you....it just sounded so funny. laugh

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Fri 12/26/08 08:42 PM
wake up and read all the words....What God has joined together let no man put asunder.....God created eve as a help mate for adam therefore god joined them together..they were married........

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Fri 12/26/08 08:44 PM
I want a help mate. Too bad I'm not a guy. I can't get one. Maybe I should become a lesbian.

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Fri 12/26/08 09:07 PM


bigsmile Theres a big difference.flowerforyou


I'm sure there is. :tongue:

P.S. JB, I'm not laughing at you! You know I believe you....it just sounded so funny. laugh


bigsmile Its true.bigsmile It would totally change the way I would react to a situation whether I was confronted by Satanists or alien drones.flowerforyou

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Fri 12/26/08 09:21 PM





Give up tax returns?!surprised They won't get mine.

Funny - I always thought that Catholic services were longer then Protestant services.


Sunday Catholic Mass is about an hour exactly. Most of the Protestant churches out here run a Sunday service that is 90 minutes to 2 hours.


Wow! That's long!!

I go to a Lutheran church. It can last from 45 minutes to 1 hr. 15 minutes. I've been a member of two churches like that. As a kid I went to an Episcopalian church. It lasted an hour to 1 hr. 15 minutes. It all depended on Baptisms and Communion.


Lutheran and Episcopalian are VERY similar to Catholic. I went to Episcopalian as a teenager for a couple of years and it looks just like Catholicism.


Yes, they have some similarities with their ceremonies. But..there are some BIG differences in practice.

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Fri 12/26/08 09:36 PM


Yes, they have some similarities with their ceremonies. But..there are some BIG differences in practice.


I agree. I was only talking about the ritual/ceremony part of it.

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Fri 12/26/08 09:39 PM



Yes, they have some similarities with their ceremonies. But..there are some BIG differences in practice.


I agree. I was only talking about the ritual/ceremony part of it.



Yes, there's similarities there but no Latin.

My child was baptized in an Episcopalian church. One of my Catholic friends couldn't believe how similar it was to the Catholic baptisms.

One big difference with the Lutherans is that they don't kneel.

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Fri 12/26/08 09:43 PM


Yes, there's similarities there but no Latin.

My child was baptized in an Episcopalian church. One of my Catholic friends couldn't believe how similar it was to the Catholic baptisms.

One big difference with the Lutherans is that they don't kneel.


Catholic masses no longer use Latin. they are all done in the common language for the area. That's interesting about Lutherans. The kneeling isn't so bad....it's the up and down constantly. laugh

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Fri 12/26/08 09:57 PM



Yes, there's similarities there but no Latin.

My child was baptized in an Episcopalian church. One of my Catholic friends couldn't believe how similar it was to the Catholic baptisms.

One big difference with the Lutherans is that they don't kneel.


Catholic masses no longer use Latin. they are all done in the common language for the area. That's interesting about Lutherans. The kneeling isn't so bad....it's the up and down constantly. laugh


Ruth,

No Catholic masses use Latin anymore? I wasn't aware of that.

The Lutheran churches don't even have a kneeling pad. lol
I miss kneeling and praying.

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Fri 12/26/08 10:03 PM

Ruth,

No Catholic masses use Latin anymore? I wasn't aware of that.

The Lutheran churches don't even have a kneeling pad. lol
I miss kneeling and praying.


Nope, unless you're in Rome. After the Second Vatican Council in the 1960's they did away with mandatory head covering for the women, masses in Latin, the priest facing the altar, communion in the mouth (now you can take in your hand and then put in your own mouth) and some other things. There are some masses offered in Latin but the priest has to have special permission from the local Bishop....who, I think, has to get permission from the Cardinal or even higher up. I can't remember. It's been a couple of years since I studied all this.

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Fri 12/26/08 10:10 PM
Edited by Winx on Fri 12/26/08 10:15 PM


Ruth,

No Catholic masses use Latin anymore? I wasn't aware of that.

The Lutheran churches don't even have a kneeling pad. lol
I miss kneeling and praying.


Nope, unless you're in Rome. After the Second Vatican Council in the 1960's they did away with mandatory head covering for the women, masses in Latin, the priest facing the altar, communion in the mouth (now you can take in your hand and then put in your own mouth) and some other things. There are some masses offered in Latin but the priest has to have special permission from the local Bishop....who, I think, has to get permission from the Cardinal or even higher up. I can't remember. It's been a couple of years since I studied all this.


I didn't know that. That's interesting. So..I looked it up for St. Louis:

http://stlouiscatholic.blogspot.com/2007/06/old-latin-mass-makes-comeback.html

We have a few churches starting it up again - even the head coverings. The first time in 40 years! We have a lot of older people here. The main church that they are talking about has a high Hispanic population.

Go to the bottom of the page and see how pretty that church is. My cousin was married there.




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Sat 12/27/08 06:15 AM


I didn't know that. That's interesting. So..I looked it up for St. Louis:

http://stlouiscatholic.blogspot.com/2007/06/old-latin-mass-makes-comeback.html

We have a few churches starting it up again - even the head coverings. The first time in 40 years! We have a lot of older people here. The main church that they are talking about has a high Hispanic population.

Go to the bottom of the page and see how pretty that church is. My cousin was married there.






That is absolutely beautiful. I love churches like that. There are two churches out here (when I say out here I mean one is 45 minutes from me and the other is an hour and half) that offer the Tridentine Latin Mass. That Mass truly is the most beautiful thing. I attend the Novus Ordo Masses close to me due to convenience and it's just not the same.

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Sat 12/27/08 06:35 AM


It seems to me that if you are a practicing Satanist, arent you basically a Christian? I mean you are buying into half of their beliefs. I have no idea what Satanism entails exactly. Ive never been interested in it enough to investigate or read up on it.


I read parts of the Satanic bible once and know a woman who is a Satanist. For me, it was a meaningless existence. They are all about gratifying your every human desire and that's it. That's what life is all about. Indulging in whatever you want to indulge in to feel good. It's just not for me.

If I'm not mistaken, Satanists do not actually worship Satan. I'm not sure about that.


That sounds kind of boring to me in all honesty. It would appear that they are only attempting to be contrary to the Christians and gratify their every desire. They are simply the flip side of the coin in that respect. Thats how I personally interpret the spirituality and like I say, I have never investigated it or even looked it up on the internet.

Also I have to ask, does "gratifying your every human desire" include hurting others? The Wiccan Rede of course includes the distinct verbiage of "If it harm none, do as thy will."

Do the Satanist seek to harm others in the pursuit of self gratification? Or do they find that an acceptable cost? huh

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Sat 12/27/08 06:45 AM


That sounds kind of boring to me in all honesty. It would appear that they are only attempting to be contrary to the Christians and gratify their every desire. They are simply the flip side of the coin in that respect. Thats how I personally interpret the spirituality and like I say, I have never investigated it or even looked it up on the internet.

Also I have to ask, does "gratifying your every human desire" include hurting others? The Wiccan Rede of course includes the distinct verbiage of "If it harm none, do as thy will."

Do the Satanist seek to harm others in the pursuit of self gratification? Or do they find that an acceptable cost? huh


No, at least not the ones I know. they have a "harm none" type law as well. And, yes, it is more of a Christian rebellion type thing. It sounds very boring and unfulfilling to me as well.

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Sat 12/27/08 09:23 AM


bigsmile Theres a big difference.flowerforyou


I'm sure there is. :tongue:

P.S. JB, I'm not laughing at you! You know I believe you....it just sounded so funny. laugh


rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl


I know it really sounds hilarious. But there is a difference between Antone Levey's Satanist and the Lucerferian cults. And they do exist IMO. And there are aliens involved IMO.

But it does sound hilarious. rofl rofl

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Sat 12/27/08 09:25 AM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Sat 12/27/08 09:30 AM

wake up and read all the words....What God has joined together let no man put asunder.....God created eve as a help mate for adam therefore god joined them together..they were married........



God had nothing to do with that. It was those alien genetic scientists that did that.


Wake up and snap out of it. laugh
(Just kidding. bigsmile )

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Sat 12/27/08 08:17 PM
I would not have left my children in that church that is for sure. Then I would have taken legal action if it appropriate and legal.