Topic: Woman blackmailed by former church
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Fri 12/26/08 03:17 PM

What I dont understand is that this poor woman LEFT. She left the church. What right did they have to pursue it at all? huh Does that mean if you join a church at some point in your life, its an eternally binding contract? Can you not just leave without facing retaliatory action?


Perhaps they can't afford to loose whatever money they get of her?

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Fri 12/26/08 03:21 PM
She might have been high up in the church hierarchy. Thats all I could think of as a potential reason for this hostility being directed towards her. I cant imagine this taking place with an every day parishioner?

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Fri 12/26/08 03:23 PM
If it is a small church they would pay attention to everyone.
And to me it sounds like a small church.

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Fri 12/26/08 03:25 PM
Hmm. Its strange. Maybe the church in that town is run by a bunch of Teamsters.

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Fri 12/26/08 03:27 PM

Hmm. Its strange. Maybe the church in that town is run by a bunch of Teamsters.


Krimsa,

What why would being in a Union have something to do with it?

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Fri 12/26/08 03:40 PM
it's like it's run by the town elders in the movie footloose.

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Fri 12/26/08 03:50 PM


Hmm. Its strange. Maybe the church in that town is run by a bunch of Teamsters.


Krimsa,

What why would being in a Union have something to do with it?



It was just a joke Winx, dont worry about it. Teamsters have a rep for being rough and intimidating dudes.

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Fri 12/26/08 03:52 PM
the situation just seems weird

first how did they know the two was having sex ..did the kids tell ..did a church member see it peeping through their window or did the kids film it and uploaded it on youtube

also why would the church want the two lust demons to break up ..wouldn't they just consul the two to convince them to stop their heathenous fornication ways ..

to demand they break up seems somewhat extreme unless one of the other church members has the hots for one of the two people involved and are jealous

also why did the woman leave her kids as active members in the church while she goes off jezebel-ling with her lothario

but either way the church couldn't have given her any more public humiliation then she did going on a News Program ..also it's the church responsiblity to keep their flock under control

it she disagreed with the church methods or how they do their business of public humiliation then why leave her kids there to be taught by them unless she approved

but let's face it ....she's guilty as charge

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Fri 12/26/08 03:59 PM
Edited by Krimsa on Fri 12/26/08 04:01 PM
She would only be guilty of something if she had remained in the church but she had already left. You can only be guilty if you consider it a problem. Having sex out of wedlock is not a crime.You can not be arrested for it. If someone else considers it to be morally objectionable behavior, it exists in as much as they believe it to be. It does not effect you on a personal level.

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Fri 12/26/08 04:01 PM

it's like it's run by the town elders in the movie footloose.


I remember that. No dancing allowed at the public school.

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Fri 12/26/08 04:01 PM
laugh I think that attending a church that is this silly could be very entertaining.laugh

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Fri 12/26/08 04:02 PM
Edited by Winx on Fri 12/26/08 04:05 PM



Hmm. Its strange. Maybe the church in that town is run by a bunch of Teamsters.


Krimsa,

What why would being in a Union have something to do with it?



It was just a joke Winx, dont worry about it. Teamsters have a rep for being rough and intimidating dudes.


Got it.laugh

I thought that was an ole Hoffa rep., btw.



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Fri 12/26/08 04:03 PM

laugh I think that attending a church that is this silly could be very entertaining.laugh


You would give them lots to talk about, wouldn't you?laugh

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Fri 12/26/08 04:04 PM


Yeah, I know of a church here that is like that. They base it on the bible teaching of confronting the sinner with one person and a witness and if they don't change you take some more people and then finally you tell eveyone. The first Sunday I went to this church the pastor got up and told us all about some guy by name who left his wife for another woman.



Wow, I didn't know that there were churches like that. That's sad.


Yeah, it is sad. It was when my ex and I were first married. We decided to start going to church together and thought it was important for our boys who were quite young at the time. This was one of a few churches we shopped around at. Another church, a very strict Baptist church, demaded that you surrender your tax returns in order to join so that they could "hold you accountable" for tithing the right amount.

We ended up going to a Catholic Church (my ex is a Catholic from birth and raised Catholic). My ex made the decision and said it was because the services were shorter than the Protestants. laugh

Anyway, I don't tell these stories to bash Christians in any way. I have never had any experiences with any other kinds of churches or religious institutions, but if I had I am sure I would have some pretty disgusting stories from them as well. Organized religion tends to be "not pretty" which is why I refuse to join a Wiccan church. I know those people who run it locally and they are a bunch of nuts. laugh

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Fri 12/26/08 04:07 PM



Yeah, I know of a church here that is like that. They base it on the bible teaching of confronting the sinner with one person and a witness and if they don't change you take some more people and then finally you tell eveyone. The first Sunday I went to this church the pastor got up and told us all about some guy by name who left his wife for another woman.



Wow, I didn't know that there were churches like that. That's sad.


Yeah, it is sad. It was when my ex and I were first married. We decided to start going to church together and thought it was important for our boys who were quite young at the time. This was one of a few churches we shopped around at. Another church, a very strict Baptist church, demaded that you surrender your tax returns in order to join so that they could "hold you accountable" for tithing the right amount.

We ended up going to a Catholic Church (my ex is a Catholic from birth and raised Catholic). My ex made the decision and said it was because the services were shorter than the Protestants. laugh

Anyway, I don't tell these stories to bash Christians in any way. I have never had any experiences with any other kinds of churches or religious institutions, but if I had I am sure I would have some pretty disgusting stories from them as well. Organized religion tends to be "not pretty" which is why I refuse to join a Wiccan church. I know those people who run it locally and they are a bunch of nuts. laugh



Give up tax returns?!surprised They won't get mine.

Funny - I always thought that Catholic services were longer then Protestant services.

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Fri 12/26/08 04:11 PM


Give up tax returns?!surprised They won't get mine.

Funny - I always thought that Catholic services were longer then Protestant services.


Sunday Catholic Mass is about an hour exactly. Most of the Protestant churches out here run a Sunday service that is 90 minutes to 2 hours.

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Fri 12/26/08 04:15 PM



Give up tax returns?!surprised They won't get mine.

Funny - I always thought that Catholic services were longer then Protestant services.


Sunday Catholic Mass is about an hour exactly. Most of the Protestant churches out here run a Sunday service that is 90 minutes to 2 hours.


Wow! That's long!!

I go to a Lutheran church. It can last from 45 minutes to 1 hr. 15 minutes. I've been a member of two churches like that. As a kid I went to an Episcopalian church. It lasted an hour to 1 hr. 15 minutes. It all depended on Baptisms and Communion.

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Fri 12/26/08 04:17 PM

She would only be guilty of something if she had remained in the church but she had already left. You can only be guilty if you consider it a problem. Having sex out of wedlock is not a crime.You can not be arrested for it. If someone else considers it to be morally objectionable behavior, it exists in as much as they believe it to be. It does not effect you on a personal level.


she is guilty of leaving her kid in the church as active members to be taught by them..

since having sex outside of wedlock is supposely not a crime that is enforced in society but is supposely enforced in the church then it is the church duty to set an example for her children

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Fri 12/26/08 04:17 PM




Give up tax returns?!surprised They won't get mine.

Funny - I always thought that Catholic services were longer then Protestant services.


Sunday Catholic Mass is about an hour exactly. Most of the Protestant churches out here run a Sunday service that is 90 minutes to 2 hours.


Wow! That's long!!

I go to a Lutheran church. It can last from 45 minutes to 1 hr. 15 minutes. I've been a member of two churches like that. As a kid I went to an Episcopalian church. It lasted an hour to 1 hr. 15 minutes. It all depended on Baptisms and Communion.


Lutheran and Episcopalian are VERY similar to Catholic. I went to Episcopalian as a teenager for a couple of years and it looks just like Catholicism.

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Fri 12/26/08 04:21 PM
:smile: I dont think this church will last very long after if it goes ahead and does this.:smile:Thats been my experience with churchs that start doing silly stuff like this and word gets out.:smile:It blows their credibility with the community and it is very difficult for them to recover.:smile: