What is the purpose of creating a system in which souls need saving?

Bushidobillyclub, God wanted us to experience life free to make a choice. Adam made the wrong choice and brought sin into our lives.

GENESIS 2:7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

GENESIS 2:15 And the LORD God took the man, and put him into the garden of Eden to dress it and to keep it.
16 And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat:
17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.

ACTS 15:7 And when there had been much disputing, Peter rose up, and said unto them, Men and brethren, ye know how that a good while ago God made choice among us, that the Gentiles by my mouth should hear the word of the gospel, and believe.


You have to have faith and ask for his salvation.

Study the Bible and you will get your answer.

Excellent question you pose there.

Here is one legend:

Something when horribly wrong. The system experienced a rebellion. The Christians call it the "war in heaven" where as Lucifer rebelled against the system lords.

Therefore what happened is that the Ademic stock planted on the earth (as planned) fell prey to inferior genetics as the earth became a lawless zone. Some say that the ones who fell from heaven with Lucifer mated with earth humans, mixing the genetic pools and contaminating them.

Normally inferior races are destroyed. (Genocide of "inferior" races is a common practice on these evolving planets under genetic orders.)

But it was decided not to destroy the earth. Hence the forces of good and evil are allowed choose sides and to battle it out until the harvest of souls.

Of course while most humans see these creators as gods, they are simply inter dimensional aliens as far as I'm concerned.

The Urantia book even supports the idea that these creators and genetic scientists were sanctioned to commit genocide on inferior races developing on the earth with the blessings of the system lords.

YHWH has given you wisdom Yahsgirl, what you say is absolute truth. We are to worship the Creator in Spirit and Truth. I can see that you are doing that. My spirit agrees.

churchianity is of pagan belief and is a vice of the devil used to decieve the whole world. Christianity perverts the Good News of Messiah with all its Falsehoods and Idolatry.

"Blessed are those doing His Commands, so that the authority shall be theirs unto the tree of life, and to enter through the gates into the city. But outside are the dogs, and those who enchant with drugs, and those who whore,and the murderers, and the idolaters, and all who love and do falsehood" Revelation 22:14,15

You see, all who loves to practice lies instead of YHWH's Truth will never enter into His Kingdom.
YHWH hates lies. You must free yourselves from the shackles of religion folks if you really want to enter into His Kingdom.

"And there shall by no means enter into it whatever is unclean, neither anyone doing abomination and falsehood, but only those who are written in the Lamb's Book of Life." Revelation 21:27

Its your choice. Love and practice Lies and be eternally separated from the One who created you or Seek First His Kingdom of Righteousness, (Not Mans righteousness)and all these things shall be added unto you. Life in His Perfect Kingdom.

Keep Following those blind leaders and see where they will lead you. You all will fall into the pit of destruction. Keep worshipping jesus and see where you will be living after you leave your flesh. Call on the One True Savior Yahushua. He Saves. Once you learn the truth folks do not return to your vomit. Worship Yahushua. Maybe you did not know the Messiah is Yahushua, but now you know so now you can stop calling on false pagan savior. jesus is who you call on when your in darkness and dont know any better. Yahushua is who you call on when you come into the light.
Praise Yah.


Be enlightened!
Yamin

the book tell, a tale of man, the purpose of man, the tale from the start, the truth said within, hidden deep in the heart, no book under heaven, can this impart.......

Yahweh has given you wisdom as well Yamin.

Shalom!

Actually - you are the one claiming God doesn't exist. What are you basing your conclusion on?

I dont know about Dennis because I think he might be a material Atheist and they are their own situation but I am certainly convinced that the god of the bible does not exist. One only has to glance through the bible.

That is a good question. He wanted to give us a small sample of what he has. God created us because he needed us to watch over his creation. He crated us in his image so that we could enjoy his creation with him. We fell from grace when man sinned the first time.

GENESIS 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

GENESIS 3:3 But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die.

GENESIS 3:6 And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.


Are you Saved, its very easy just ask God for Salvation and believe in your hart that Jesus died and rose three days later because of the love He has for you and me.

MATTHEW 7:7 Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you:

MARK 10:26 And they were astonished out of measure, saying among themselves, Who then can be saved? 27 And Jesus looking upon them saith, With men it is impossible, but not with God: for with God all things are possible.

JOHN 3:17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.

..., or reject!

Absolutely, it's a HUMAN ISSUE to be sure.

Some arrogant egotistical male chuavinist society wrote a book and claimed that the creator of this universe is on their side and hate all other cultures.

I reject it, as the obvious work of truly ignorant, demented, and self-centered egotistical pigs who wrongly blasphemed themselves by claiming that the creator of this universe told them to do very ignorant and hurtful things to other people, and even members of their very own culture.

It's the most ungodly account of history that mandkind ever created.

To worship the Bible is to worship the works of MAN.

I flately reject it as being a picture of a God that isn't even as moral nor as intelligent as myself a mere mortal man.

As a human I denounce this picture of God as not only being ungodly, but it's also been proven beyond any shadow of a doubt to be detrimental to humanity.

So as a concerned human I denounce it as cancer of the mind, and spirit.

It is the works of immoral men, and not the word of any supreme being.

You can rest assured of this.

Turning to this religion out of fear of damnation or a lust for a gift of eternal life would be utterly stupid.

Just look at the bigotry and hatred this supposed "God" has for people.

It's clearly the works of ignorant men.

The most intelligent minds of humanity have denounced it.

"A man's ethical behavior should be based effectually on sympathy, education, and social ties and needs; no religious basis is necessary. Man would indeed be in a poor way if he had to be restrained by fear of punishment and hope of reward after death." - Albert Einstein

So even Albert Einstein thinks that the portrait of God that the Bible paints is foolishness.

I'm in total agreement with this very wise man, and with many other wise men who hold the very same view.

Just look at what the book has done to humanity already.

It's turned three major cultures against one another, the Jews, Christians and Muslims.

They are all simply three different ways of interpreting the same bigoted mythology. A mythology that has them pitted at hating each other for interpreting the myth differently.

Then look what happened to the Christiants, they protested against themselves and broke into two major sect of Catholicism and Protestantism.

The protestants have continued to deteriorate until today about all that is left are individual "Designer Christians" many of whom denounce much of the original doctrine.

And then we have the fantatical radicals who say, "Only MY interpretation is correct! All else is the works of MEN!"

Excuse me?

It's ALL the works of MEN!

Every jot and tittle of it!

Abra !!!!!

WHO do you THINK.....

LOVES to come in....

and TRY to DISTORT

and DILUTE

and MISCONSCRUE

the GOSPEL MESSAGE OF SALVATION ...

THAT COMES BY ACCEPTING JESUS CHRIST AS OUR SAVIOUR??

WHO do you THINK

TRIES HIS BEST

to


BLIND THE EYES of PEOPLE

so they CANNOT SEE?

Like he has BLINDED YOUR EYES, ABRA??

Who?


Wake up Abra.....

WAKE UP

is it not children in the kiddie pool that moan and cry, dictators of good speech and rules that apply, but when it comes to self these always be the first to hide, others are the bad the ugly the evil with hate inside?

lions of pride ride misery missiles up high, whining and crying sooth me sanctify, wings sucking praise uni verses to raise, birds regurgetating thirsting validating, painted clowns clinging to the ground, flattery quackery dignify pacify justify, glares and stares only falling down stairs, flatulence funnels fauder ignorance ingesting self incest, tummies floating bloating heads swilling gloating, brown noses like hoses swallowing sweet swill, soured smoking brains begging feigns as grains, self painted hues painting self portrait views, black the sky oh please let me hide, whisper wallow mouths mutter and hollar, leave the levy protect cards stacked heavy, tall towers built of paper patched pride, words tethered tarred like birds of feather, false fingers in mirrors demanding dressings and blessings, dogs of dogma hording self grass to graze, boomerang bring back agreement no lacking no attacking, caress the carcass with sugar and spice, dare the dagger bring anything but swagger, low to the ground crawl endow drown me, great gagging lions limp with loir, leave the hate and malice that abate and create miserable fate........

what be true has no hue, good words can't hide, what one is inside......

to debate is to run in circles only chasing one's own tail, to reason is to prove all as might be as true.........

Wake up to what MorningSong?

Bigotry, ignorance, and hatered spread in the name of Jesus Christ the Almighty?

History speaks for itself MorningSong.

The ungodliness of the Bible is naked upon the world.

Its unrighteousness has been confessed in the actions of its followers.

Look at what it represents MorningSong!

Take your eyes off the idol and look at the wake of destruction in its path.

You have become lost in an obscession to worship a sacrifical lamb as though it is a God. Yet, if it truly was a sacrificial lamb of God you aren't supposed to be worshiping the lamb, but rather the God that sacrificed it.

Even if this grossly insane and ungodly picture were true, you'd still be wrong to worship the lamb instead of the God.

Either worship the God of Abraham or toss the book into the sea of mythology and allow it sink to the sludge at the bottom and rot into the bowels of the Earth.

Then humanity can finally move foward in true peace, harmony, and genuine brotherly love.

Wake up MorningSong!

ONCE MORE ABRA....

WHO DO YOU THINK


COMES IN TO DISTORT THE GOSPEL...


CAUSING all these ATOCITIES to be

COMMITED

in the NAME of CHRISTIANITY...

SO ALL WOULD NOW BLAME GOD....

and

TURN AWAY FROM GOD....


AND HAVE ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO

DO WITH THE TRUE AND LIVING GOD?


AND ALSO WITH GOD'S WORD ?



ABRA!!!!

SATAN LOVES

TO DECIEVE PEOPLE .....

AND BLIND PEOPLE'S EYES....

SO THEY END UP

MISSING THE TRUE MEANING.....

AND THE

TRUE MESSAGE....

OF THE GOSPEL OF SALVATION

OF ACCEPTING AS THEIR SAVIOUR....

THE LORD JESUS CHRIST!!!!!!


ABRA.....CAN'T YOU SEE?

HOW THE ENEMY COMES IN.....

AND TRIES TO MISCONSCRUE.....

GOD'S WORD??

AND

ALL THAT TRUE CHRISTIANIY STANDS FOR ?

SEE?!!!!!!!!

SEE HOW PEOPLE BUY INTO SATAN'S LIES.......


AND BELIEVE HIM

AND

HIS CUNNING TRICKS...

AND THE DEVIL JUST LAUGHS....

CAUSE SATAN HATES GOD.....

AND HATES ALL THAT SHOULD EVEN TRY

TO COME TO THE LORD JESUS CHRIST....


SEE ABRA?!!!!!!


CLEVER DEVIL , AIN'T HE , ABRA?

CLEVER AND CUNNING DEVIL...YES?

SEE????

OR.....

WILL YOU STILL

JUST CHOOSE....

TO STILL NOT SEE....

AND

STAY BLINDED.....TOO.

there be only one satan that decieve any living thing, just any self that deny what motive it's own belief will create inside, and leave equality which is love knocking on the door in the cold outside.........

Get a grip MorningSong.

God is my best friend. I would never turn my back on Her.

And I never have.

The religion that you worship is paraniod that some boogieman is going to steal their FREE WILL!

I have not chosen to turn away from my creator, in fact I write songs for Her and sing to Her every day.

Tonight I am actually laying out the plans to build a garden labyrinth in Her honor.

Don't you think she'll be thrilled?

I can hardly wait to walk it.

The idea that some boogieman is going to steal my free will or confuse my mind is ludicious.

After all, if some boogieman had tricked me into thinking that I was serving God when in fact I wasn't what do you think God would do about that?

Don't you think God would KNOW that I had been tricked and that was sincerely serving Her in my heart all along even though the boogieman had thought he had 'blinded me'?

What kind of a jerk do you think God is?

Do you think God would punish people for being pure in heart yet misguided into thinking that they are serving God when they are not?

That's absurd.

Surely you give God more credit than that?

What kind of a God would punish truly loving people who had unknowingly been blinded by a mean old boogieman?

You've been reading too many fairytales about the big bad wolf MorningSong.

Clearly if there is a supreme creator its not going to punish those who are pure of heart.

That would be so not divine MorningSong.

I don't think God will hold it against you for worshiping the bigoted authors of the Mediterranean folklore.

But she might be disapointed in you for attempting to sway those away from Her who are building Her magical laybrinths and writing Her songs and poetry.

If what I'm doing is evil then I supposed I deserve to go to hell.

Albert Einstein, Isaac Newton, Richard Feynman, Carl Sagan and many of the most brilliant minds of humanity are already there supposedly anyway. These are all my heroes, so maybe going to hell will be my heaven.

Obviously if God sends loving people to hell then owl be in good company.

In the meantime if I'm being 'blinded' by a boogieman as you claim, then clearly I'm not responsible for that. My free will has been stolen by the boogieman and therefore it's not my decision.

So according to you I have no free will in the matter.

From my perspective Christianity is a hateful bigoted religion that only serves to divide humanity and create pain and suffering in the world.

History proves it. Did the boogieman fake that too?

How can that history be Godly?

If God is upset with me for rejecting hatred, bigotry, and division, then I guess I've been a bad boy.

What else can I say?

In the meantime, I don't believe you.

God is right here with me and She's very pleased with me.

How can LOVE ever be wrong MorningSong?

It can't.

I am doing nothing but LOVING God.

If that's a sin, then send me to hell because I want no parts of a God who knows not love.