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Topic: WARNING: Dangerous Concepts of Christianity!
Nubby's photo
Fri 01/30/09 04:53 AM


My faith rests firmly on the resurrection. If Jesus rose from the dead, then scripture is inerrant. He upheld the authority of the old Testament numerous times.



According to the New Testament Jesus totally denounced the authority of the Old Testament.

The authority of the Old Testament had people judging one another and stoning sinners to death.

Jesus totally denounced that authority and taught not to judge others and not to throw stones.

The authority of the Old Testament has people seeking revenge and with teh vengence of an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth.

Jesus totally denounced that authorty and taught forgiveness and to turn the other cheek.

So even the Bible confirms that Jesus did not support the authority of the Old Testament.


In the book "The True Authorship Of The New Testament" by Abelard Reuchlin, he states that:

"The New Testament, the Church and Christianity, were all the creation of the Calpurnius Piso (pronounced Peso) family, who were Roman aristocrats. The New Testament and all the characters in it - Jesus, all the Josephs, all the Marys, all the disciples, apostles, Paul, John the Baptist - all are fictional. The Pisos created the story and the characters; they tied the story to a specific time and place in history; and they connected it with some peripheral actual people, such as the Herods, Gamaliel, the Roman procurators, etc. But Jesus and everyone involved with him were created (that is fictiotional!) characters.”

I believe he is correct.


I also believe that all of the evidence points to something along these lines. And the only "evidence" that is required is contained within the actual mythology.

It's clearly that there are errors, contraditions, and obvious demagoguery just by reading the text.

Clearly Jesus could not have been the son of the God of Abraham and have so drastically changed his commands.

That's a given right off the top.

I do believe that there were preachers (or rabbi in this case) who did teach about the coming of a savior, and very possible more than one of them claimed to be that savior. They probably were crucified, maybe not even by the Romans, but very possibly by the Jew who were mimicking what the Romans did to criminals.

In any case, I think there were 'rumors' around of a 'savior' that at least gave some credence to the mythology.

The idea that the biblical account could be the word of God is truly asburd.

The simplest fact of all is that if our creator was indeed able to become manifest as a human then he could have written down his own message.

The fact that the Bible is nothing but empty hearsay is basically proof positive that there is nothing at all to the claim that Jesus was God.

Zip. Zilch.

The religion has absolutely no more merit than Greek Mythology.

None.










What does it mean that Jesus fulfilled the law, but did not abolish it?



Question: "What does it mean that Jesus fulfilled the law, but did not abolish it?"

Answer: In Matthew’s record of what is commonly called The Sermon on the Mount, these words of Jesus are recorded: "Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished" (Matthew 5:17-18).

It is frequently argued that if Jesus did not “abolish” the law, then it must still be binding. Accordingly, such components as the Sabbath day requirement must be operative still, along with perhaps numerous other elements of the Mosaic Law. This assumption is grounded upon a misunderstanding of the words and intent of this passage. Christ did not here suggest that the binding nature of the law of Moses would remain forever in effect. Such a view would contradict everything we learn from the balance of the New Testament record (Romans 10:4; Galatians 3:23-25; Ephesians 2:15). Consider the following points.

Of special significance in this study is the word rendered “abolish.” It translates the Greek term kataluo, literally meaning to “loose down.” The word is found seventeen times in the New Testament. It is used, for example, of the destruction of the Jewish temple by the Romans (Matthew 26:61; 27:40; Acts 6:14), and of the dissolving of the human body at death (2 Corinthians 5:1). The term can carry the extended meaning of “to overthrow,” i.e., to “render vain, deprive of success.” In classical Greek, it was used in connection with institutions, laws, etc., to convey the idea of “to invalidate.”

It is especially important to note how the word is used in Matthew 5:17. In this context, “abolish” is set in opposition to “fulfill.” Christ came “...not to abolish, but to fulfill.” The meaning is this. Jesus did not come to this earth for the purpose of acting as an opponent of the law. His goal was not to prevent its fulfillment. Rather, he revered it, loved it, obeyed it, and brought it to fruition. He fulfilled the law’s prophetic utterances regarding Himself (Luke 24:44). Christ fulfilled the demands of the Mosaic law which called for perfect obedience, or else imposed a “curse” (see Galatians 3:10,13). In this sense, the law’s divine design will ever have an abiding effect. It will always accomplish the purpose for which it was given.

If, however, the law of Moses bears the same relationship to men today, in terms of its binding status, as it did before Christ came, then it was not fulfilled, and Jesus failed at what He came “to do.” On the other hand, if the Lord did accomplish what He came to accomplish, then the law was fulfilled, and it is not a binding legal institution today. Further, if the law of Moses was not fulfilled by Christ, and thus remains as a binding legal system for today, then it is not just partially binding. Rather, it is a totally compelling system. Jesus plainly said that not one “jot or tittle” (representative of the smallest markings of the Hebrew script) would pass away until all was fulfilled. Consequently, nothing of the law was to fail until it had completely accomplished its purpose. Jesus fulfilled the law. Jesus fulfilled all of the law. We cannot say that Jesus fulfilled the sacrificial system, but did not fulfill the other aspects of the law. Jesus either fulfilled all of the law, or none of it. What Jesus' death means for the sacrificial system, it also means for the other aspects of the law.


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Fri 01/30/09 04:55 AM
For the Lord your God, He is the One who goes with you. He will not leave you nor forsake you.

Nubby's photo
Fri 01/30/09 06:10 AM

For the Lord your God, He is the One who goes with you. He will not leave you nor forsake you.


I love that verse.

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Fri 01/30/09 07:08 AM


In the book "The True Authorship Of The New Testament" by Abelard Reuchlin, he states that:

"The New Testament, the Church and Christianity, were all the creation of the Calpurnius Piso (pronounced Peso) family, who were Roman aristocrats. The New Testament and all the characters in it - Jesus, all the Josephs, all the Marys, all the disciples, apostles, Paul, John the Baptist - all are fictional. The Pisos created the story and the characters; they tied the story to a specific time and place in history; and they connected it with some peripheral actual people, such as the Herods, Gamaliel, the Roman procurators, etc. But Jesus and everyone involved with him were created (that is fictiotional!) characters.”


I also think there might be something to this theory. I want to watch that new movie due out called "The Jesus that Wasn't There" to see if it delves into any of this at all.



You will see more movies like that as we move into the age of Aquarius. They come in the wake of the revelation of the truth, that none of it ever happened, that it was all a lie.

The Tarot card that represents that energy is the Tower. The tower falls and the truth is revealed.

The age of Pisces was the age of Jesus. That age is coming to an end. The age of Pisces is the age of the fish which symbolically represents Jesus and Christianity. The next symbol is the man with the water pitcher. Water represents our connection to our spiritual knowledge and each other will give rise to communication via telepathy and the truth cannot be hidden. The veil will be lifted.




indeed, for it is already rent even now, and UNPORFESSING satans and devils first recieve of the water of forever life, while the professed knowers of god and good sit outside the door, and knock, and whine as gogs without the gate, but for anything to come in, one must first cleanse itself of evil, the sight and worship of good as god..........

for it god did create a universe, and the earth, and none of these were made with what entreat man to only good of comfort, so then neither has any creator made "perfect beings" into pitchers of tall water called wisdom, before each come unto hell and perdidtion, with the seeing of self in the mirror of self, that reflect not back images of only what one hast done good, but most the images of all that was done in the name of good, as in the name of god, seeing that these things only serve to measure self based on an idea of god as good, and not with any true sight of infinite, that if one know GOD, ONE BECOME AS A CREATOR OF MOST BETTER BY REACTING WITH UNFIEGNED WORDS AND ACTIONS, for the only "true self" of god within all things to COME OUT TO PLAY, to kill the only "lessor energy" that stare at only good...........

good is poison to the mind, and negative as god, be the only thing that OPEN PORTALS INTO ALL REALMS OF ETERANL, WHICH IS ALL BLISS???

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