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I'm only stating that I do believe. The burden of proving that fact is between me and the God I believe in. If you don't believe, and you're absolutely positive in that conviction, why bother posting in a religion forum? And, that is all that is important. What you have between you and God personally and knowing you have a connection with the Divine. If you are at peace with that connection and with God then what more can you ask for? I'm not asking for anything. I'm only voicing my own opinions among my fellow minglers. I, like they, thankfully have the right of free speech to do so and am excersising it accordingly. If someone doesn't like what I say, even though I'm not attacking them in any way, they have the option of responding or ignoring my posts. I think you misunderstood my post. I was agreeing with you. Ok 
Merry Christmas! I hope it's been nice for you. 
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Some people are just mentally stronger than others, and run purely on comon sense, and I happen to be one of those people. These are your exact words. They directly imply that anyone who does believe in God is not as mentally strong as you. I did not twist anything you said. |
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Edited by
freeonthree
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Thu 12/25/08 04:30 PM
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What I meant was that people who are real mentally strong do not look for outside help, such as religion. Thats all...
And some people need more proof than others before they will believe anything they find questionable. Dennis |
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What I meant was that people who are real mentally strong do not look for outside help, such as religion. Thats all... Dennis I rest my case. I did not twist your words. You just said what you previously implied. |
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Who's talking about religion, or seeking outside help?
I'm talking about my own spirituality, which by grace, dwells inside of me.
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What I meant was that people who are real mentally strong do not look for outside help, such as religion. Thats all... Dennis I rest my case. I did not twist your words. You just said what you previously implied. It doesn't bother me if anyone doubts my mental strength. I know otherwise and they can't argue with that. 
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What I meant was that people who are real mentally strong do not look for outside help, such as religion. Thats all... Dennis I rest my case. I did not twist your words. You just said what you previously implied. It doesn't bother me if anyone doubts my mental strength. I know otherwise and they can't argue with that.
We may be looking at what mental strength is differently. Any, it's been real.. Dennis |
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You have gullible, all the way to very mentally strong, requireing rock solid evidence before you will believe anything you question, and run purely on comon sense. Dennis
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To quote Shakespeare,
"There are more things in heaven and earth that are dream't of in YOUR philosophy, Horatio" |
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To quote Shakespeare, "There are more things in heaven and earth that are dream't of in YOUR philosophy, Horatio" Leave it to Shakespeare to say it right. 
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I definately see a huge problem with scripture.
First, let me just say that as Christianity spread, it can be ascertained that the vast majority of people could no read. Throughout Christianity, including today, there are more illiterate people than there are who can read. By this I mean that reading at a third or fourth grade level does not make one literate. A study a couple year ago, in the United states indicated that 75% of two year college students were illiterate. In the same study it was demonstrated taht 50% of four year college students could not read a newspaper editorial and summarize it. A newpaper editorial, written in the language of today, a language a College student has spoken and read for about 20 years. Christians beleive everyone can easily understand scripture. But scripture has been rewritten and the attempts to keep language "modern" have disrupted the actual meaning of words and ideas because they have been taken out of their original context. Furthermore, even histoians and biblical scholars cannot all agree on what scripture says, and a great many of them ARE Christian. So here, we see, just another attempt of yet another Christian, saying that scripture is easy to read and understand and there is only one way in which it can be understood. You must have a deeply hidden ego, not to be aware that you are just one among many, and your way is just another way. Keep your peace and let it guide your actions more clearly in the future. |
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Thats fine, assuming that there ever really was a Jesus, and as I said before, I sure havn't seen any proof. In my opinion, and im not alone, to believe anything that was written back then is ridiculas. I used to believe in God... I believe it's pretty much established that Jesus existed in human form as a historical fact. To me, he exists as the living God by nature of the Holy Spirit that dwells in my heart and convicts me to believe in him and the salvation he has promised. thats you but I have yet to seen any proof of a god.there will never be any proof of that either,((((((because no one can make it a fact that there is a god.))))))all there is are bibles,churches and words.......does not make it fact Is love a person?If I told you I belived in love and you said that I have no physical proof love exists would you still belive it?Is hate a person?It's the same concept.Christians belive because it is something they feel in their heart and body.Faith is what we live by and we don't need proof to back it up. |
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Edited by
MorningSong
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Thu 12/25/08 10:04 PM
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Yahsgirl..my replies will be inserted thruout this article , in red “And you shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.” (John 8:32) There is no doubt that a large number of Christians are “good people” and have a sincere belief in the truth that the All-Mighty Creator sent His Son to redeem the world from sin, but the sad truth is that Christianity is just another false religion that has vague similarities to the true way that the Messiah taught and lived. Yahsgirl......christianity is not a false religion ..... simply because Christianity is not about religion in the first place....but is a lifestlye... about relationship back to the Father .... which comes thru believing and accepting Jesus as Saviour and Lord. (christianity is not to be confused with "churchiology,(where there is just religion with no real life change, brought on by salvation thru accepting Jessu as Saviour) The first obvious similarity between ALL forms of Christianity is the fact that they all worship someone known as “Jesus” and call the Creator by a title “God” or “Lord” etc. rather than by His Name. JESUS IS HIS NAME... However..if you wish to call JESUS Name in aramaic or hebrew.. God doesn't mind... cause God is MORE CONCERNED ABOUT WHETHER YOU HAVE ASKED HIS SON INTO YOUR HEART, TO BE YOUR PERSONAL SAVIOUR .... so therefore.... God just looks to see if His Son Lives your heart... cause God is Not some legalistic God, who would reject someone for not calling upon His name in just the hebrew language The Name of the creator is commanded in the Ten Commandments, yet Christianity is guilty of breaking the Third Command by bringing the Name of Yahweh to nothingness! The commandments are now written on the tablets of a christians heart... and again, God is not going to condemn someone for calling upon His Name in their language, rather than just the hebrew language. Gentiles ingrafted into the vine..did NOT speak hebrew before..and God doesn't require them to start now...that would just be legalism... all over again , if gentiles who were saved, were expected to speak The Saviour's Name in just hebrew only. SABBATH Despite the Sabbath being one of the Ten Commandments written by the finger of Yahweh Himself, Christianity has continued the Catholic tradition of honouring the first day of the week known as “Sun-day” that the sun-worshipping Constantine ordained. This is not a “Jewish” command, nor a “Seventh-Day Adventist” doctrine; the Sabbath was given to us as an example by Yahweh immediately after Creation BEFORE there was “Jews” or any denomination. Jesus is even LORD over the Sabbath... as He is Lord over all.. and for a born again christian, everyday is considered Holy unto the Lord now... ..not just one day....we worship God in spirit and Truth at all times... ...and there is also a rest found now in Him, for all believers. SAVED BY “GRACE” Does it make sense that we are saved to live a life of contentment; to "take thine ease"? Yahsgirl.....one cannot be saved by JUST trying to keep the law... but by ONLY accepting Jesus(Yeshua)as his/her Personal Saviour, can one be Saved. No other way to the Father but thru His Son Jesus...period. see romans10:9 ETERNAL SECURITY Eternal security or "once saved always saved" is an invention of the Catholic religion that arose through the "indulgences" sold to wealthy folk ensuring them a spot in heaven regardless of their behavior in this life. Once saved, Father God cannot and will not undo Salvation... just like a child born of the flesh can't suddenly become unborn...same with being born of God. When a true spiritual birth takes place, there will be evidence of a changed life.... and fruits of the spirit showing (love, joy, peace etc). Mankind has only one means by which to be saved, and that is through His Covenant to Yisra'el. We are either grafted into His people through obedience to His Son, or cast out. We are saved thru accepting the free gift of grace Jesus offers...no other way. Obedience and keeping God's commandments FOLLOWS salvation..but is NOT the MEANS TO Salvation... ONLY BELIEVING and ACCEPTING JESUS AS SAVIOUR is the ONLY way to Salvation. BUT... Obedience and Keeping God's commandments FOLLOW Salvation. (we keep his commandments out of Love for God now) Jesus did NOT NOT NOT NOT do away with the Law..He Came to FULFILL the Law. Covered all this already with Miles!!! Also......we believe in just ONE God!!! When we say triune God ,that does not mean we believe in 3 Gods. God the Father, Jesus the Son(also known as the Word...Who was with the Father God from the beginning...and is the One who created us and created all the heavens and the earth) and God the Holy Spirit....all 3 are still just ONE God. There is a lot more here...but I just covered the basics right now...to help explain the TRUTH to you about Christianity. Be Blessed Now. Goodnite now 
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In all fairness, if you try to reach Christians you should post this in the Christian Forum to which you are automatically subscribed. Others from other religions sure don't want to see a fight of all Christian denominations here in the General Religion Chat. She is going to create a "Cyber holy war" 
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In all fairness, if you try to reach Christians you should post this in the Christian Forum to which you are automatically subscribed. Others from other religions sure don't want to see a fight of all Christian denominations here in the General Religion Chat. She is going to create a "Cyber holy war"
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I still don't see where "General Religion" excludes any "Religion" from posting on their "religion".
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I still don't see where "General Religion" excludes any "Religion" from posting on their "religion". Dont start Sharp. They just deleted that thread due to the arguing. You need to take it up with a moderator as its their new rule. |
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OrangeCat,Faith, Hope, and Love
Faith, Hebrews 11 1. Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. 2. For by it the elders obtained a good report. 3. Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear. All Christians if they are following Christ have that "want to" to tell others of Christ’s Salvation. Because at one point in time they were there were you are at. If the spirit hasn’t reached you yet. Nothing will make sense until you read the word of God or someone tells you of his Salvation. Christ does save soles and I will put a short verse for you. I would encourage the reading of the whole Bible. A good place to start would be John. Romans 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. |
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Why doesn't god cure amputees?
Does he perform any miracles anymore, or only in biblical times? If you can get some scientists together and prove miracles that would be a good start, but other wise you are going to need some really good circumstantial evidence for the miraculous before I see any reason to believe any of this mythology as anything but story time. |
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Modern medicine could probably cure amputees if you Christians would butt the hell out of embryonic stem cell research.
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