What is ignorance? That I’m saying you can not interject your own conjecture? You MUST go by what the bible actually says. You even just posted that your source admitted to it being an error.

"Is the New Testament we read today the same as when it was fIrst written? Can we believe that the accounts written by the New Testament authors have been accurately preserved in the Bible we read today? There is actually substantial evidence that the New Testament we read today is incredibly accurate and true to what was written by the original authors.
First of all, we have more manuscripts of the Greek New Testament than any other writing from the ancient world. There are 5,686 partial or complete hand written copies of the Greek New Testament. This is more than for any other book from the ancient world. Most classics from antiquity survive on only a handful of manuscript copies. Homer’s Iliad comes in a distant second with 643 manuscripts. There are only 9 or 10 good copies of Julius Caesar’s Gallic War, 20 copies of Livy’s Roman History, 2 copies of Tacitus’ Annuls, and 8 copies of Thucydides’ History. If we count copies of the New Testament that were translated from Greek into other languages, then the number jumps to over 14,000! What is more, if we compile the 36,289 quotations by the early church Fathers of the second to fourth centuries we can reconstruct all but 11 verses of the entire New Testament. (Most of those 11 verses are from Third John and none of them are related to doctrine.)
We also have earlier manuscripts. Most of the New Testament is preserved in manuscripts that were written less than 200 years from the original, some from as little as 100 years, and 1 fragment comes within a generation of the first century. By contrast, most ancient books survive in manuscripts that were copied about 1,000 years from the original. It is rare to have, as the Odyssey does, a copy made only 500 years after the original.
Finally, we have more accurate manuscripts. The New Testament is the most accurately copied book from the ancient world. New Testament scholar Bruce Metzger estimates that the New Testament is about 99.5 percent accurate. By comparison, the Mahabharata is only about 90 percent accurate and Homers Iliad about 95 percent.
What is the conclusion of all of this? Sir Frederic Kenyon put it this way. “The number of manuscripts of the New Testament, of early translations from it, and of quotations from it in the oldest writers of the Church, is so large that it is practically certain that the true reading of every doubtful passage is preserved in one or the other of these ancient authorities. This can be said of no other ancient book in the world”
In other words, if we cannot trust the reliability of the New Testament, then we cannot trust any other document from the ancient world.
Did the New Testament writers record the event as they really happened? In other words, were they telling the truth? There are numerous reasons to believe that the writers of the New Testament were very meticulous about recording the actual words and deeds of Jesus without adding to or taking away from them. There is absolutely no evidence to support any theory that tries to assert that these events were simply made up.
1: Eleven of the twelve disciples and Paul died for the things that they were preaching and John was banished to an island. While it is true that many people have died for things that they believed that were not true, these men were in a position to know if the things they were saying were true or simpiy “made up”. If the whole thing were just an elaborate hoax, don’t you think that at least one of these men would have admitted it rather than be put to death for no real reason at all?
2: They left in embarrassing and unflattering things about themselves. The disciples are constantly portrayed as faithless, cowardly, unaware of the big picture, and often times downright dim-witted. Jesus even said to Peter “Get thee behind me Satan”! There was no attempt made by the authors to make themselves look better than they were. 3: The first witnesses at the empty tomb were women. (While the men were hiding for fear of the Jews!) In first century Jewish culture, the testimony of a woman was considered to be so weak that they were not even allowed to testify in court. If the authors were just making this story up, they certainly would not have included the testimonies of women.
4: The authors were very careful to distinguish between the words of Jesus and their own. It would have been very easy to clear up a lot of the controversies in the early Church (the role of woman in church, circumcision, baptism, etc.) by putting words in Jesus’ mouth, but this was never done.
5: The authors left in difficult and seemingly contradictory things that Jesus said. “Be perfect as I am perfect”, “lust is the same as adultery,” “love your enemy”, “the Father is greater than I”, and the fact that Jesus did not know when he would return are all left in.
6: The Gospel spread rapidly throughout Judea, the very region where Christ lived, died, and performed His miracles. If the things that the disciples were preaching were not true, these people would have known.
7: The authors did not attempt to harmonize minor details, which would have been a sign of collusion. In other words, they did not get together to “get their stories straight”. Any theory that states that the disciples made this story up has no evidence to support it. In spite of all this evidence, there will always be those who want to know if there are
any non-Biblical references to Jesus from the ancient world and if they support the New
Testament story. The answer is yes, but I would like to add that this is a little like saying
“Other than all of your eye-witnesses, what kind of case do you have?” This is what
outside sources (largely first century Greek, Roman, Jewish, and Samaritan) tell us about
Jesus.
1: He was from Nazareth.
2: He lived a wise and virtuous life.
3: He was crucified in Palestine under Pontius Pilate during the reign of Tiberius Caesar
at Passover time, being considered the Jewish king.
4: He was believed by his disciples to have been raised from the dead three days later.
5: His enemies acknowledged that He performed unusual feats they called “sorcery”.
6: His small band of disciples multiplied rapidly, spreading as far as Rome.
7: His disciples denied polytheism, lived moral lives, and worshiped Christ as divine.
I believe that all of the evidence, taken as a whole, is overwhelmingly in favor of not only
the New Testament texts we have today being accurate copies of the originals, but also
the originals themselves being an accurate description of the life of Jesus and the early
Church."

Bruce Metzger one of the greatest textual critics to ever live put the accuracy of the New Testament at about 99.5%. That is how close we are to the originals.

Is that even topic related?

I dont deny copyist errors. That has nothing to do with the point I am trying to make.

Well I am asking you to FOCUS on the given example. MS offered a re-writing of scripture so that was thrown out automatically. You offered a theologian (I assume?) that stated yes it is contradictory but we are simply going to blame it on copyist error.

Thats a good probable explanation.

It would not have been an error in the original text.

Sure and that means there are contradictions and errors in the bible and we have no way of knowing what caused it so the argument against "divine inspiration" clearly has merit.

Scholars have ways of dealing with these things, in order to find out what was in the original.

Well find that then.

Krimsa wrote:

" MS offered a re-writing of scripture so that was thrown out automatically."

?????????????????????????

Krimsa....You come on here.......and dare to say I did a RE-WRITE of SCRIPTURES?!!!???

OH Dear Lord God...I am done.

Go scroll back up, and re-reaD THE TWO SCRIPTURES......

THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT TWO DIFFERENT MEN, KRIMSA!!

one man killed 800...

another guy killed 300...

they are NOT the same guy!!!

Therefore....NO CONTRADICTIONS!!!

I am SOOOOOOO out of here.

Done.

MS thats NOT what is written in the bible!

How many men did the chief of David's captains kill?

800

2 Samuel 23:8
The ... chief among the captains ... he lift up his spear against eight hundred, whom he slew at one time.

300

1 Chronicles 11:11
The chief of the captains: he lifted up his spear against three hundred slain by him at one time.

HELLO?????

KRIMSA....YOU LEFT OUT PARTS OF SCRIPTURE!!!

OPEN YOUR BIBLE AND READ FOR YOURSELF!!!


I got it now...

you are most likely, copying the scriptures from a anti-christian website....

and they purposely leave out parts of scripture!!!

That is why I say to all ,regarding websites....

check your SOURCE of info. !!!

What if your truth isn't my truth?
Blessed be.

In the book Misquoting Jesus (I forget the name of the writer) his basic conclusion is that the Bible has been changed at least the number of times that there are words in it. He gives very detailed reviews, for example, how they worked Joseph out of Jesus' life, etc. It is dry and tedious but the scholarship is first rate.

Then the trees of the forest will sing, they will sing for joy before the Lord, for he comes to judge the earth.

I did NOT! This is the entire passage in both sections!

23:8 These be the names of the mighty men whom David had: The Tachmonite that sat in the seat, chief among the captains; the same was Adino the Eznite: he lift up his spear against eight hundred, whom he slew at one time.

11:11 And this is the number of the mighty men whom David had; Jashobeam, an Hachmonite, the chief of the captains: he lifted up his spear against three hundred slain by him at one time.

The chief of David's captains killed with his own spear 300 guys at one time or was it 800 like it says in 2 Samuel 23:8?

The book is written by Bart Erhman, and guess who his mentor is, Bruce Metzger.

2 Shemu'el 23:8 states:
(2 Samuel)

"These are the names of the mighty men whom Dawid had: Yosheb-Basshebeth the Tahkemonite, chief among the officers, he was Adino the Etsnite, for eight hundred slain at one time."

Clearly they are speaking of Yosheb-Basshebeth as the one killing 800.

1 Dibre haYamim 11:11 states:
(1 Chronicles)

"And this is the number of the mighty men whom Dawid had: Yashob'am son of a Hakmonite, chief of the thirty. He had lifted up his spear against three hundred slain at one time."

This scripture is speaking about Yashob'am, he killed three hundred. Two different men, two sets of numbers.

There are NO contradictions in Scripture, only man's misunderstandings.

Shalom!