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Topic: WARNING: Dangerous Concepts of Christianity!
TBRich's photo
Thu 01/29/09 10:15 AM
I fail to see the humour!!!

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Thu 01/29/09 10:19 AM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Thu 01/29/09 10:46 AM

I fail to see the humour!!!



rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl


Very typical of the King of Swords.

drew1on79's photo
Thu 01/29/09 10:20 AM
Watch your life and doctrine closely. Persevere in them, becouse if you do, you will save both yourself and your hearers.

Nubby's photo
Thu 01/29/09 10:40 AM
Edited by Nubby on Thu 01/29/09 10:42 AM

Thus my point. You can then simply say well EVERY discrepancy, error and contradiction found in the scripture is merely "copyist's error." However, if you are going to say that, then that clearly leaves you open for the argument against "divine inspiration."


No you cant, for instance we know so much about the New Testament with the wealth of manuscripts we have. The more manuscripts the closer you can get to the original. Like I said, maybe the greatest textual critic to live puts it at about 99.5%. We get that close to what the writer actually said.

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Thu 01/29/09 10:44 AM
i am often confused about the "hidden" chapter of Mark which the early church fathers admitted to keeping out of the bible, it is simply a few lines telling a story similar to the Lazarus story and yet it was held so secret they originated the phrase "A lie to a Pagan, is not a lie" when justifying denying the chapter existed.

Krimsa's photo
Thu 01/29/09 10:49 AM


Thus my point. You can then simply say well EVERY discrepancy, error and contradiction found in the scripture is merely "copyist's error." However, if you are going to say that, then that clearly leaves you open for the argument against "divine inspiration."


No you cant, for instance we know so much about the New Testament with the wealth of manuscripts we have. The more manuscripts the closer you can get to the original. Like I said, maybe the greatest textual critic to live puts it at about 99.5%. We get that close to what the writer actually said. Or read for instance the Dead Sea Scrolls.


But you are attempting to make a claim of Biblical inerrancy which puts you in the position of not just claiming that the original Bible was free of error (and, remember, none of the original autograph manuscripts exist) but that the modern version of the Bible is the end result of an error-free history of copying and translation beginning with the originals. Such a position is so specific that it allows one to falsify it simply by reference to the Bible itself.

drew1on79's photo
Thu 01/29/09 11:01 AM
And those who know YOUR name will put their trust in you for you Lord, have not forsaken those who seek you.

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Thu 01/29/09 11:14 AM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Thu 01/29/09 11:14 AM
For that matter, anything ever written by anyone can make the claim that it was "GOD INSPIRED." That does not say much.

They are not claiming that the scripture or the Bible was channeled or written by God. They are only saying that it was "God inspired." Since no one can prove that God even exists and the authors of scripture did not meet with God in person that we know of and take dictation, they can claim anything they want. That does not make it true or even believable.

In the book "The True Authorship Of The New Testament" by Abelard Reuchlin, he states that:

"The New Testament, the Church and Christianity, were all the creation of the Calpurnius Piso (pronounced Peso) family, who were Roman aristocrats. The New Testament and all the characters in it - Jesus, all the Josephs, all the Marys, all the disciples, apostles, Paul, John the Baptist - all are fictional. The Pisos created the story and the characters; they tied the story to a specific time and place in history; and they connected it with some peripheral actual people, such as the Herods, Gamaliel, the Roman procurators, etc. But Jesus and everyone involved with him were created (that is fictiotional!) characters.”

I believe he is correct.


Krimsa's photo
Thu 01/29/09 11:18 AM
That serial killer Son of Sam said that his dog was speaking to him. I also think he thought his dog was divinely inspired because it was telling him to go kill people. Who can make a clear distinction? huh

Nubby's photo
Thu 01/29/09 11:23 AM



Thus my point. You can then simply say well EVERY discrepancy, error and contradiction found in the scripture is merely "copyist's error." However, if you are going to say that, then that clearly leaves you open for the argument against "divine inspiration."


No you cant, for instance we know so much about the New Testament with the wealth of manuscripts we have. The more manuscripts the closer you can get to the original. Like I said, maybe the greatest textual critic to live puts it at about 99.5%. We get that close to what the writer actually said. Or read for instance the Dead Sea Scrolls.


But you are attempting to make a claim of Biblical inerrancy which puts you in the position of not just claiming that the original Bible was free of error (and, remember, none of the original autograph manuscripts exist) but that the modern version of the Bible is the end result of an error-free history of copying and translation beginning with the originals. Such a position is so specific that it allows one to falsify it simply by reference to the Bible itself.


My faith rests firmly on the resurrection. If Jesus rose from the dead, then scripture is inerrant. He upheld the authority of the old Testament numerous times.




drew1on79's photo
Thu 01/29/09 11:23 AM
HE will judge the world in righteousness HE will execute judgment for the peoples with equity.

TBRich's photo
Thu 01/29/09 11:24 AM

HE will judge the world in righteousness HE will execute judgment for the peoples with equity.


Well then let Him do it and stop trying to by yourself.

Nubby's photo
Thu 01/29/09 11:25 AM

That serial killer Son of Sam said that his dog was speaking to him. I also think he thought his dog was divinely inspired because it was telling him to go kill people. Who can make a clear distinction? huh



Is your dog God?

Inkracer's photo
Thu 01/29/09 11:27 AM


That serial killer Son of Sam said that his dog was speaking to him. I also think he thought his dog was divinely inspired because it was telling him to go kill people. Who can make a clear distinction? huh



Is your dog God?


well, I did name one of my dogs Lord once. . .

Krimsa's photo
Thu 01/29/09 11:29 AM
My faith rests firmly on the resurrection. If Jesus rose from the dead, then scripture is inerrant. He upheld the authority of the old Testament numerous times.


Well we know that traditionally people don’t rise from the dead so...You mean the Old Testament that instructed that we stone all sinners to death?


Krimsa's photo
Thu 01/29/09 11:31 AM
Edited by Krimsa on Thu 01/29/09 11:31 AM


That serial killer Son of Sam said that his dog was speaking to him. I also think he thought his dog was divinely inspired because it was telling him to go kill people. Who can make a clear distinction? huh



Is your dog God?


Well no but I have two farm dogs named Ben and Sarah. I purposely gave them old Hebrew names. They haven’t told me to kill any sinners yet but they are excellent watch dogs. happy

Krimsa's photo
Thu 01/29/09 11:33 AM


HE will judge the world in righteousness HE will execute judgment for the peoples with equity.


Well then let Him do it and stop trying to by yourself.


No kidding. Someone get to the smiting already. :tongue:

drew1on79's photo
Thu 01/29/09 11:35 AM
A man of too many friends comes to ruin, but there is a friend who sticks closer than a brother.

Krimsa's photo
Thu 01/29/09 11:48 AM

A man of too many friends comes to ruin, but there is a friend who sticks closer than a brother.




laugh laugh

drew1on79's photo
Thu 01/29/09 12:00 PM
YOU evildoers frustrate the plans of the poor, but the Lord is their refuge.

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