Topic: Child support questions
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Fri 12/19/08 07:58 AM







I see it as a custodial vs non custodial parents - not male v female case.

I have seen plenty of cases where the non custodial parent is found after years of searching, should that lessen the amount due (I don't think so) after all the child ate, was dressed, medical needs, etc. I see it as a financial obligation that should be shared - but thats only what I think and I know I am not in the majority.


Fran, question.. What do you think of when Jeb privatized the CSEA. Im just curious of your feelings and I will share mine.


Responsibility is passed around like a hot potato (jmo). I say we just give the absent parent a good old fashioned kick in the ass, a wake up kick in the ass instead of all this hand holding, patting the backs of non custodial parents. Read a little re: Jebs plan's and he too is focusing on the father's roles.

"Read a little re: Jebs plan's and he too is focusing on the father's roles." I dont quite understand what you meant. I think it was a mistake and for many reasons.



No, not a mistake, I will post the link of the site I was reading.

http://www.ontheissues.org/2008/Jeb_Bush_Families_+_Children.htm

just by the assumption of this site, it is focusing on the father's roles - guessing he means the father will be the non custodial parent.


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ahhh I think you misunderstood my post, I should have said I read a little on Bush's plan - flowerforyou sorry for the misunderstanding
Before I read that I want to say when you mail a check to Tallahassee it takes 30 days to be distributed to the parent. HMMM that's a lot of money sitting in a bank collecting interest instead of being given directly to the parent. Now I will read the post..


What most people do not realize or want to realize is that it is found that when child support is garnished, ordered by the courts, it has more of a chance of being remitted at all.

As for the interest it gains while they hold it, don't truly see a problem, afterall, everything is business, the collection agency must be paid, the clerks must be paid, etc., rather they got paid with the interest collected from payments than else where.

Checks are no longer sent to Tallahassee, everything is now done online. Just like certain jobs they hold onto a paycheck or two when you begin, child support is usually behind in remittance. Considering the extent and the time it takes them to find the non custodial parent, it happens.
Its been many years since I have dealt with a CSEA. I only sent them one check then before I got custody. I think you and Winx are taking what Im trying to say wrong. The absent parent should be made to pay no matter what it takes.

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Fri 12/19/08 08:01 AM
Say you're wrong about what? I'm getting lost here.

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Fri 12/19/08 08:07 AM
Im getting off of here before I make more of an azz of myself. All parents need to take responsibility for their kids!!!!!!! They need to be involve in every aspect of their child's life. Find out whats going on in their schools, with their friends, in your own neighborhood. GET INVOLVED and take nothing for granite when it comes to your child!!!!

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Fri 12/19/08 08:10 AM
I apologize tempt if I misunderstood - I was speaking regarding the custodial parent vs the non custodial parent with regards to the issue of financial obligation. Would never make a personal comment as cases are different.

sorry

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Fri 12/19/08 08:13 AM

Im getting off of here before I make more of an azz of myself. All parents need to take responsibility for their kids!!!!!!! They need to be involve in every aspect of their child's life. Find out whats going on in their schools, with their friends, in your own neighborhood. GET INVOLVED and take nothing for granite when it comes to your child!!!!


I am. I do.:banana:

I'm enduring that "all the kids at school saw Twilight and I can't" right now.laugh

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Fri 12/19/08 08:16 AM
Edited by Unknow on Fri 12/19/08 08:17 AM

I apologize tempt if I misunderstood - I was speaking regarding the custodial parent vs the non custodial parent with regards to the issue of financial obligation. Would never make a personal comment as cases are different.

sorry

Sorry for what. Im the one who couldnt make it clear. I agree with you and winx %100 and Im talking about things that happened years ago. I hope and pray they have changed. I have no up to date knowledge of the system and should not be commenting on it since I dont..flowerforyou flowerforyou flowerforyou Im the one who is sorry!

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Fri 12/19/08 08:19 AM
Fran is a rather sad story in Florida...http://mingle2.com/topic/show/188061

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Fri 12/19/08 08:24 AM

Fran is a rather sad story in Florida...http://mingle2.com/topic/show/188061


:angry:

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Fri 12/19/08 08:28 AM


Fran is a rather sad story in Florida...http://mingle2.com/topic/show/188061


:angry:
If you only new of the huge infux of people here in the winter you would even be more mad. I try and drive the very least I can during peak hours.

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Fri 12/19/08 08:31 AM



Fran is a rather sad story in Florida...http://mingle2.com/topic/show/188061


:angry:
If you only new of the huge infux of people here in the winter you would even be more mad. I try and drive the very least I can during peak hours.


I had a problem similar to that. When my child was going into kindergarten, I called the city schools to see about what school and transportation. The school for us was over a mile away. They thought that I lived close enough to school to walk my 5 yr. old there. WT?!

We don't go there.bigsmile

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Fri 12/19/08 08:49 AM
not sure why a neighbor hasn't stepped in - pick up and drop the child off at school, for let's say a play date with kids...

both helping each other out

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Fri 12/19/08 09:58 AM


Ok so can anyone answer this for me please?
I need to file for child support but i live in indiana and he lives in kentucky so where do i file and is it two different courts for visitation and child support? Will they make me drive all the way to kentucky or will they make us meet half way when its his visitations?
laugh This guy is about to be another poor loserlaugh



Only you could say that **** Mirror... he isnt about to become a poor loser hes about TO MADE TO TAKE RESPONSIBILITY....THERES A ****IN DIFFERENCE

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Fri 12/19/08 10:20 AM



Adj,

I disagree with this statement of yours, "unless the custodial parent is recieving some kind of govt assistance they very rarely get involved in recovery of child support."

They do get involved when the women aren't receiving government assistance. Some men are good at going underground.



well i know a lot of people that the child support agency just turns a blind eye to and does nothing for


and more than one of them are fathers and the mother is the deadbeat

why is it every one says the guy is the one in the wrong

your line

"""""""women aren't receiving government assistance. Some men are good at going underground.""""""""



My apologies. I only know about women that collect the support. The men are not the majority from what I've seen on this site. Yes, there are men that did raise their children. I haven't met one.


the reason that most people only know women in thia situation is the lopsided court system that do not give custody of the children to fathers

what does the loose of a family cost

how many fathers go into a deep depression after losing their family and their job performance goes down they miss work

and eventually lose their job

why is it no one wants to talk about these things

how mush does it cost not to see your child come home excited about winning their game

or helping them get ready for their date

divorces should be a lot harder to get when children are involved

children are the responsibility of both parents

but everyone forgets

children are also the privilege and enjoyment of both parents

if the custodial parent is struggling with money well the non custodial parent is usually struggling emotionally

if you want their money stay married

if it is abusive then press charges for the abuse

this having it both ways is full of crap

yes some support is needed

but if the govt says you can support a family of 4 for 700$

then divide that in half 2/adults that leaves 350 you divde that in half as 175 for the two kids

so that makes 41 a week

then you add the what 200 in food benefit

that makes another 100 dollars to split

so thats what 23 a week

so support would be 64 a week

or 275 a month

and that is how it should be figured

if the same family goes to dhs for help then you take away the adult shares and divide the childrens shares in half

what the non custodial parent makes should not come into play unless they are not working

and if they are working prove it

get pictures

you can complain all you want and say i am wrong

but if you do not like the way it works

let the other parent have the children

you want all the fun stuff w/kids

and make so the other parent can not afford to spend time w/kids

well that is not right

if you can not handle the responsibility then try reversing the situation

and the courts should be looking at finances in deciding who should be the custodial parent as well as the other things involved

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Fri 12/19/08 10:33 AM
Edited by Winx on Fri 12/19/08 10:56 AM
The reason that I don't know about men in this situation is that I mostly know women.

You said,

"if the govt says you can support a family of 4 for 700$"

Well, then, the government needs to get up to the year 2008.

There are two in my house. We wouldn't be able to survive on $700/mth.

"If you want their money stay married"

That's just wrong!!!!!

"you want all the fun stuff w/kids"

Do you mean the diaper changing in the middle of the night, the sick kid in the middle of the night? Driving them everywhere they need to go? Cooking their meals, shopping for and washing their clothes? Taking care of their schedules and more.

I've done it by myself since day one. What you have suggested regarding child support in this thread and others are insulting to me.


Edit: There I said it. I've felt that way for a long time.flowerforyou






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Fri 12/19/08 11:08 AM

The reason that I don't know about men in this situation is that I mostly know women.

You said,

"if the govt says you can support a family of 4 for 700$"

Well, then, the government needs to get up to the year 2008.

There are two in my house. We wouldn't be able to survive on $700/mth.

"If you want their money stay married"

That's just wrong!!!!!

"you want all the fun stuff w/kids"

Do you mean the diaper changing in the middle of the night, the sick kid in the middle of the night? Driving them everywhere they need to go? Cooking their meals, shopping for and washing their clothes? Taking care of their schedules and more.

I've done it by myself since day one. What you have suggested regarding child support in this thread and others are insulting to me.


Edit: There I said it. I've felt that way for a long time.flowerforyou




flowers
From another single mom who never collected a $0.01 in support and never received public assistance. Worked 2 - 3 jobs at a time to make ends meet.

(((adj))) I agree the courts way back then did automatically issue custody to the women, but that is and hasn't been the case for years.

as for feeling sorry for the non custodial parent - I do feel bad, just as bad as I feel for the custodial parent who has to see to their own feelings as well as their child(ren).

Parenting includes financial obligation/responsibility - short and sweet, regardless of custody flowerforyou





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Fri 12/19/08 11:14 AM
My ex and I have a 50/50 split, and neither of us pays child support. However, he and his wife just separated (last weekend) and my son is with my full time now.

Although my ex expects the separation to last only 3-4 months, I filed with CSEA for a temporary order. He will not have to pay a lot, but he should pay to ensure my son still has all that he needs. Daycare, food, utilities, everything. Each person makes those things go up a lot.

I actually just put the CSEA letter in the mail.

OP~ Call your local court, family or domestic relations court, and ask them.

Don't ask for legal advice in the threads, okay? Good luck to you.

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Fri 12/19/08 11:21 AM
Only thing supplied was personal advise, not legal advise.

then it took off from there

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Fri 12/19/08 11:35 AM

Only thing supplied was personal advise, not legal advise.

then it took off from there


Yeah, I read that, but her question, the OP's original question, that was a legal question.

That's all I meant.

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Fri 12/19/08 11:58 AM
it's ok like it morphed like many other threads winking

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Fri 12/19/08 12:32 PM

The reason that I don't know about men in this situation is that I mostly know women.

You said,

"if the govt says you can support a family of 4 for 700$"

Well, then, the government needs to get up to the year 2008.

There are two in my house. We wouldn't be able to survive on $700/mth.

"If you want their money stay married"

That's just wrong!!!!!

"you want all the fun stuff w/kids"

Do you mean the diaper changing in the middle of the night, the sick kid in the middle of the night? Driving them everywhere they need to go? Cooking their meals, shopping for and washing their clothes? Taking care of their schedules and more.

I've done it by myself since day one. What you have suggested regarding child support in this thread and others are insulting to me.


Edit: There I said it. I've felt that way for a long time.flowerforyou






flowerforyou Your rightflowerforyou