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Topic: Child support questions
adj4u Joined Sun 04/08/07 Posts: 21254	Fri 12/19/08 06:27 AM
Adj, I disagree with this statement of yours, "unless the custodial parent is recieving some kind of govt assistance they very rarely get involved in recovery of child support." They do get involved when the women aren't receiving government assistance. Some men are good at going underground. well i know a lot of people that the child support agency just turns a blind eye to and does nothing for and more than one of them are fathers and the mother is the deadbeat why is it every one says the guy is the one in the wrong your line """""""women aren't receiving government assistance. Some men are good at going underground.""""""""

Unknow Joined Fri 10/06/06 Posts: 4066	Fri 12/19/08 07:02 AM
Adj, I disagree with this statement of yours, "unless the custodial parent is recieving some kind of govt assistance they very rarely get involved in recovery of child support." They do get involved when the women aren't receiving government assistance. Some men are good at going underground. well i know a lot of people that the child support agency just turns a blind eye to and does nothing for and more than one of them are fathers and the mother is the deadbeat why is it every one says the guy is the one in the wrong your line """""""women aren't receiving government assistance. Some men are good at going underground.""""""""

franshade Joined Tue 07/24/07 Posts: 24704	Fri 12/19/08 07:06 AM
I see it as a custodial vs non custodial parents - not male v female case. I have seen plenty of cases where the non custodial parent is found after years of searching, should that lessen the amount due (I don't think so) after all the child ate, was dressed, medical needs, etc. I see it as a financial obligation that should be shared - but thats only what I think and I know I am not in the majority.

adj4u Joined Sun 04/08/07 Posts: 21254	Fri 12/19/08 07:11 AM Edited by adj4u on Fri 12/19/08 07:13 AM


Winx Joined Fri 08/31/07 Posts: 39051	Fri 12/19/08 07:16 AM
Adj, I disagree with this statement of yours, "unless the custodial parent is recieving some kind of govt assistance they very rarely get involved in recovery of child support." They do get involved when the women aren't receiving government assistance. Some men are good at going underground. I bed to differ there winx from my own experience. But then I was a guy too. If they do help someone out not on assistance them I was discriminated against for being a man. The Child support Enforcement agency would not help me prove paternity even though she was on assistance. If she was pointing the finger at me you bet I would have been hauled in and forced to do a paternity test. Temp, In my city, Family Services is the most common way to collect child support if you can't afford a lawyer. Over the years I have seen all kinds of women and in different walks of life pursue child support through that system. The women that were receiving assistance were the minority. Also, like Fran mentioned, the state should try to collect the money back.

Winx Joined Fri 08/31/07 Posts: 39051	Fri 12/19/08 07:19 AM
Adj, I disagree with this statement of yours, "unless the custodial parent is recieving some kind of govt assistance they very rarely get involved in recovery of child support." They do get involved when the women aren't receiving government assistance. Some men are good at going underground. well i know a lot of people that the child support agency just turns a blind eye to and does nothing for and more than one of them are fathers and the mother is the deadbeat why is it every one says the guy is the one in the wrong your line """""""women aren't receiving government assistance. Some men are good at going underground."""""""" My apologies. I only know about women that collect the support. The men are not the majority from what I've seen on this site. Yes, there are men that did raise their children. I haven't met one.

Winx Joined Fri 08/31/07 Posts: 39051	Fri 12/19/08 07:19 AM
I see it as a custodial vs non custodial parents - not male v female case. I have seen plenty of cases where the non custodial parent is found after years of searching, should that lessen the amount due (I don't think so) after all the child ate, was dressed, medical needs, etc. I see it as a financial obligation that should be shared - but thats only what I think and I know I am not in the majority. I agree.

Unknow Joined Fri 10/06/06 Posts: 4066	Fri 12/19/08 07:24 AM Edited by Unknow on Fri 12/19/08 07:34 AM
Adj, I disagree with this statement of yours, "unless the custodial parent is recieving some kind of govt assistance they very rarely get involved in recovery of child support." They do get involved when the women aren't receiving government assistance. Some men are good at going underground. I bed to differ there winx from my own experience. But then I was a guy too. If they do help someone out not on assistance them I was discriminated against for being a man. The Child support Enforcement agency would not help me prove paternity even though she was on assistance. If she was pointing the finger at me you bet I would have been hauled in and forced to do a paternity test. Temp, In my city, Family Services is the most common way to collect child support if you can't afford a lawyer. Over the years I have seen all kinds of women and in different walks of life pursue child support through that system. The women that were receiving assistance were the minority. Also, like Fran mentioned, the state should try to collect the money back. You took what I said wrong. Non costodial paernts should pay. If the parent is getting assistance it should be paid back. You and Fran are far from a minority with your thinking on this matter. I hope Im wrong and they have change their ways since I delt with them but they were set up to help woman. How many men have you seen get help collecting?

Unknow Joined Fri 10/06/06 Posts: 4066	Fri 12/19/08 07:26 AM
I see it as a custodial vs non custodial parents - not male v female case. I have seen plenty of cases where the non custodial parent is found after years of searching, should that lessen the amount due (I don't think so) after all the child ate, was dressed, medical needs, etc. I see it as a financial obligation that should be shared - but thats only what I think and I know I am not in the majority. Fran, question.. What do you think of when Jeb privatized the CSEA. Im just curious of your feelings and I will share mine.

Unknow Joined Fri 10/06/06 Posts: 4066	Fri 12/19/08 07:29 AM
Adj, I disagree with this statement of yours, "unless the custodial parent is recieving some kind of govt assistance they very rarely get involved in recovery of child support." They do get involved when the women aren't receiving government assistance. Some men are good at going underground. well i know a lot of people that the child support agency just turns a blind eye to and does nothing for and more than one of them are fathers and the mother is the deadbeat why is it every one says the guy is the one in the wrong your line """""""women aren't receiving government assistance. Some men are good at going underground."""""""" My apologies. I only know about women that collect the support. The men are not the majority from what I've seen on this site. Yes, there are men that did raise their children. I haven't met one. Me Well since she was 10..

Winx Joined Fri 08/31/07 Posts: 39051	Fri 12/19/08 07:37 AM
Adj, I disagree with this statement of yours, "unless the custodial parent is recieving some kind of govt assistance they very rarely get involved in recovery of child support." They do get involved when the women aren't receiving government assistance. Some men are good at going underground. well i know a lot of people that the child support agency just turns a blind eye to and does nothing for and more than one of them are fathers and the mother is the deadbeat why is it every one says the guy is the one in the wrong your line """""""women aren't receiving government assistance. Some men are good at going underground."""""""" My apologies. I only know about women that collect the support. The men are not the majority from what I've seen on this site. Yes, there are men that did raise their children. I haven't met one. Me Well since she was 10.. Yes, I have seen some of you great men on here. But..you are still the minority. I have to take something back. I have met one in real life.

franshade Joined Tue 07/24/07 Posts: 24704	Fri 12/19/08 07:38 AM
I see it as a custodial vs non custodial parents - not male v female case. I have seen plenty of cases where the non custodial parent is found after years of searching, should that lessen the amount due (I don't think so) after all the child ate, was dressed, medical needs, etc. I see it as a financial obligation that should be shared - but thats only what I think and I know I am not in the majority. Fran, question.. What do you think of when Jeb privatized the CSEA. Im just curious of your feelings and I will share mine. Responsibility is passed around like a hot potato (jmo). I say we just give the absent parent a good old fashioned kick in the ass, a wake up kick in the ass instead of all this hand holding, patting the backs of non custodial parents. Read a little re: Jebs plan's and he too is focusing on the father's roles.

Unknow Joined Fri 10/06/06 Posts: 4066	Fri 12/19/08 07:40 AM Edited by Unknow on Fri 12/19/08 07:42 AM
I see it as a custodial vs non custodial parents - not male v female case. I have seen plenty of cases where the non custodial parent is found after years of searching, should that lessen the amount due (I don't think so) after all the child ate, was dressed, medical needs, etc. I see it as a financial obligation that should be shared - but thats only what I think and I know I am not in the majority. Fran, question.. What do you think of when Jeb privatized the CSEA. Im just curious of your feelings and I will share mine. Responsibility is passed around like a hot potato (jmo). I say we just give the absent parent a good old fashioned kick in the ass, a wake up kick in the ass instead of all this hand holding, patting the backs of non custodial parents. Read a little re: Jebs plan's and he too is focusing on the father's roles. "Read a little re: Jebs plan's and he too is focusing on the father's roles." I dont quite understand what you meant. I think it was a mistake and for many reasons. Please I do agree with you about absent parents 100%!!!!!!

franshade Joined Tue 07/24/07 Posts: 24704	Fri 12/19/08 07:43 AM Edited by franshade on Fri 12/19/08 07:44 AM
I see it as a custodial vs non custodial parents - not male v female case. I have seen plenty of cases where the non custodial parent is found after years of searching, should that lessen the amount due (I don't think so) after all the child ate, was dressed, medical needs, etc. I see it as a financial obligation that should be shared - but thats only what I think and I know I am not in the majority. Fran, question.. What do you think of when Jeb privatized the CSEA. Im just curious of your feelings and I will share mine. Responsibility is passed around like a hot potato (jmo). I say we just give the absent parent a good old fashioned kick in the ass, a wake up kick in the ass instead of all this hand holding, patting the backs of non custodial parents. Read a little re: Jebs plan's and he too is focusing on the father's roles. "Read a little re: Jebs plan's and he too is focusing on the father's roles." I dont quite understand what you meant. I think it was a mistake and for many reasons. No, not a mistake, I will post the link of the site I was reading. http://www.ontheissues.org/2008/Jeb_Bush_Families_+_Children.htm just by the assumption of this site, it is focusing on the father's roles - guessing he means the father will be the non custodial parent. * edited ** tempt ahhh I think you misunderstood my post, I should have said I read a little on Bush's plan - sorry for the misunderstanding

Unknow Joined Fri 10/06/06 Posts: 4066	Fri 12/19/08 07:44 AM
Adj, I disagree with this statement of yours, "unless the custodial parent is recieving some kind of govt assistance they very rarely get involved in recovery of child support." They do get involved when the women aren't receiving government assistance. Some men are good at going underground. well i know a lot of people that the child support agency just turns a blind eye to and does nothing for and more than one of them are fathers and the mother is the deadbeat why is it every one says the guy is the one in the wrong your line """""""women aren't receiving government assistance. Some men are good at going underground."""""""" My apologies. I only know about women that collect the support. The men are not the majority from what I've seen on this site. Yes, there are men that did raise their children. I haven't met one. Me Well since she was 10.. Yes, I have seen some of you great men on here. But..you are still the minority. I have to take something back. I have met one in real life. I am not looking for praise.. I am just saying the system is set up to help woman collect but does turn its cheek on men trying to collect. That all!!!

Unknow Joined Fri 10/06/06 Posts: 4066	Fri 12/19/08 07:47 AM
I see it as a custodial vs non custodial parents - not male v female case. I have seen plenty of cases where the non custodial parent is found after years of searching, should that lessen the amount due (I don't think so) after all the child ate, was dressed, medical needs, etc. I see it as a financial obligation that should be shared - but thats only what I think and I know I am not in the majority. Fran, question.. What do you think of when Jeb privatized the CSEA. Im just curious of your feelings and I will share mine. Responsibility is passed around like a hot potato (jmo). I say we just give the absent parent a good old fashioned kick in the ass, a wake up kick in the ass instead of all this hand holding, patting the backs of non custodial parents. Read a little re: Jebs plan's and he too is focusing on the father's roles. "Read a little re: Jebs plan's and he too is focusing on the father's roles." I dont quite understand what you meant. I think it was a mistake and for many reasons. No, not a mistake, I will post the link of the site I was reading. http://www.ontheissues.org/2008/Jeb_Bush_Families_+_Children.htm just by the assumption of this site, it is focusing on the father's roles - guessing he means the father will be the non custodial parent. * edited ** tempt ahhh I think you misunderstood my post, I should have said I read a little on Bush's plan - sorry for the misunderstanding Before I read that I want to say when you mail a check to Tallahassee it takes 30 days to be distributed to the parent. HMMM that's a lot of money sitting in a bank collecting interest instead of being given directly to the parent. Now I will read the post..

Winx Joined Fri 08/31/07 Posts: 39051	Fri 12/19/08 07:52 AM
Adj, I disagree with this statement of yours, "unless the custodial parent is recieving some kind of govt assistance they very rarely get involved in recovery of child support." They do get involved when the women aren't receiving government assistance. Some men are good at going underground. well i know a lot of people that the child support agency just turns a blind eye to and does nothing for and more than one of them are fathers and the mother is the deadbeat why is it every one says the guy is the one in the wrong your line """""""women aren't receiving government assistance. Some men are good at going underground."""""""" My apologies. I only know about women that collect the support. The men are not the majority from what I've seen on this site. Yes, there are men that did raise their children. I haven't met one. Me Well since she was 10.. Yes, I have seen some of you great men on here. But..you are still the minority. I have to take something back. I have met one in real life. I am not looking for praise.. I am just saying the system is set up to help woman collect but does turn its cheek on men trying to collect. That all!!! In my state they help men and women.

franshade Joined Tue 07/24/07 Posts: 24704	Fri 12/19/08 07:53 AM
I see it as a custodial vs non custodial parents - not male v female case. I have seen plenty of cases where the non custodial parent is found after years of searching, should that lessen the amount due (I don't think so) after all the child ate, was dressed, medical needs, etc. I see it as a financial obligation that should be shared - but thats only what I think and I know I am not in the majority. Fran, question.. What do you think of when Jeb privatized the CSEA. Im just curious of your feelings and I will share mine. Responsibility is passed around like a hot potato (jmo). I say we just give the absent parent a good old fashioned kick in the ass, a wake up kick in the ass instead of all this hand holding, patting the backs of non custodial parents. Read a little re: Jebs plan's and he too is focusing on the father's roles. "Read a little re: Jebs plan's and he too is focusing on the father's roles." I dont quite understand what you meant. I think it was a mistake and for many reasons. No, not a mistake, I will post the link of the site I was reading. http://www.ontheissues.org/2008/Jeb_Bush_Families_+_Children.htm just by the assumption of this site, it is focusing on the father's roles - guessing he means the father will be the non custodial parent. * edited ** tempt ahhh I think you misunderstood my post, I should have said I read a little on Bush's plan - sorry for the misunderstanding Before I read that I want to say when you mail a check to Tallahassee it takes 30 days to be distributed to the parent. HMMM that's a lot of money sitting in a bank collecting interest instead of being given directly to the parent. Now I will read the post.. What most people do not realize or want to realize is that it is found that when child support is garnished, ordered by the courts, it has more of a chance of being remitted at all. As for the interest it gains while they hold it, don't truly see a problem, afterall, everything is business, the collection agency must be paid, the clerks must be paid, etc., rather they got paid with the interest collected from payments than else where. Checks are no longer sent to Tallahassee, everything is now done online. Just like certain jobs they hold onto a paycheck or two when you begin, child support is usually behind in remittance. Considering the extent and the time it takes them to find the non custodial parent, it happens.

Unknow Joined Fri 10/06/06 Posts: 4066	Fri 12/19/08 07:54 AM
Fran that's a whole lot of read and will do so later. Thanks Ive been wanting to get more info on it. I have nothing against Jeb. If he was the Bush running I would seriously consider him. He made Florida the model of the world for Storm response. I just question the whole privatization of some of these services..

Winx Joined Fri 08/31/07 Posts: 39051	Fri 12/19/08 07:56 AM
Fran that's a whole lot of read and will do so later. Thanks Ive been wanting to get more info on it. I have nothing against Jeb. If he was the Bush running I would seriously consider him. He made Florida the model of the world for Storm response. I just question the whole privatization of some of these services.. I don't agree with the "Right to Work" situation in Florida. People don't get paid enough because of that. I know two people that came home (St. Louis) from Florida because of that.