Topic: Child support questions
adj4u's photo
Sun 12/21/08 02:07 PM

He left when I was 5, moved to Kentucky and I never heard from him again and he showed no interest in me. He's on his 3rd wife and I have a half brother that's about 1 year old now. That's all I know.


well all we can do is hope his other child does not go through this issue

adj4u's photo
Sun 12/21/08 02:07 PM
Edited by adj4u on Sun 12/21/08 02:08 PM



Hmm my dad would quit his job every time they came around to collect child support from him. He owed over 20 grand when I turned 18 and quit his job again so the court had it reduced to $1,200. I don't know much more than that because I was never directly involved in the legal proceedings being the kid and all but he always avoided paying it.

The worst thing though was he was injured when I was 4 and won a settlement of well over $200,000. He could've easily sent a little bit of that to my mother but he never did.


question

did you mother make it hard for him to see you

20k is not very much for 18 years back support
so obviously he paid in the beginning

and remember that you were mainly influenced by what your mother said

maybe you should do some investigating to get the full story


No matter what the mother did (if she did anything), the man should still man-up for the child's sake.

Maybe it's just the way his father was. It happens many times. I've seen it.


you just proved my point

thank you

you just said it does not matter if the child is used as a weapon

case proven

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mother should not do anything to keep father away from child

she should live up to her responsibility as well

MrsKaters's photo
Sun 12/21/08 02:09 PM
ok my case....i took my ex to court 13 years ago...only recieved one check and another check got stolen. We finally filed for criminal charges a few months ago. He was finally arresed last week and has had his initial hearing. Does this mean i'm going to finally recieve the money that is owed to my kids???

Winx's photo
Sun 12/21/08 02:52 PM




Hmm my dad would quit his job every time they came around to collect child support from him. He owed over 20 grand when I turned 18 and quit his job again so the court had it reduced to $1,200. I don't know much more than that because I was never directly involved in the legal proceedings being the kid and all but he always avoided paying it.

The worst thing though was he was injured when I was 4 and won a settlement of well over $200,000. He could've easily sent a little bit of that to my mother but he never did.


question

did you mother make it hard for him to see you

20k is not very much for 18 years back support
so obviously he paid in the beginning

and remember that you were mainly influenced by what your mother said

maybe you should do some investigating to get the full story


No matter what the mother did (if she did anything), the man should still man-up for the child's sake.

Maybe it's just the way his father was. It happens many times. I've seen it.


you just proved my point

thank you

you just said it does not matter if the child is used as a weapon

case proven

-----------------

mother should not do anything to keep father away from child

she should live up to her responsibility as well



Don't put words into my mouth, Adj4u!!

I didn't say that it's right for a woman to keep a child away from a man. I do think it's right in some circumstances though - when the mental and physically safety of the child is at stake.

I was saying that NO MATTER WHAT, the non-caregiver still should be contributing to the child.

adj4u's photo
Sun 12/21/08 03:15 PM
Edited by adj4u on Sun 12/21/08 03:20 PM





Hmm my dad would quit his job every time they came around to collect child support from him. He owed over 20 grand when I turned 18 and quit his job again so the court had it reduced to $1,200. I don't know much more than that because I was never directly involved in the legal proceedings being the kid and all but he always avoided paying it.

The worst thing though was he was injured when I was 4 and won a settlement of well over $200,000. He could've easily sent a little bit of that to my mother but he never did.


question

did you mother make it hard for him to see you

20k is not very much for 18 years back support
so obviously he paid in the beginning

and remember that you were mainly influenced by what your mother said

maybe you should do some investigating to get the full story


No matter what the mother did (if she did anything), the man should still man-up for the child's sake.

Maybe it's just the way his father was. It happens many times. I've seen it.


you just proved my point

thank you

you just said it does not matter if the child is used as a weapon

case proven

-----------------

mother should not do anything to keep father away from child

she should live up to her responsibility as well



Don't put words into my mouth, Adj4u!!

I didn't say that it's right for a woman to keep a child away from a man. I do think it's right in some circumstances though - when the mental and physically safety of the child is at stake.

I was saying that NO MATTER WHAT, the non-caregiver still should be contributing to the child.


"""""""No matter what the mother did""""""" this includes using as a weapon --- no matter what

did you forget my post

with the 700 family of 4 post

as i said you proved my point

1/2 basic food housing thats it

if the parent wants the child to have the extras

then they need to keep the parent in the childs life

reread the posts before you assume something

if parent is refused their rights by custodial parent they should lose custody










Ron1218's photo
Sun 12/21/08 03:18 PM

ok my case....i took my ex to court 13 years ago...only recieved one check and another check got stolen. We finally filed for criminal charges a few months ago. He was finally arresed last week and has had his initial hearing. Does this mean i'm going to finally recieve the money that is owed to my kids???


Only if he has money to give. I believe they can take his possessions and sell them off as well, but not sure on the whole law concerning that.

Winx's photo
Sun 12/21/08 03:39 PM






Hmm my dad would quit his job every time they came around to collect child support from him. He owed over 20 grand when I turned 18 and quit his job again so the court had it reduced to $1,200. I don't know much more than that because I was never directly involved in the legal proceedings being the kid and all but he always avoided paying it.

The worst thing though was he was injured when I was 4 and won a settlement of well over $200,000. He could've easily sent a little bit of that to my mother but he never did.


question

did you mother make it hard for him to see you

20k is not very much for 18 years back support
so obviously he paid in the beginning

and remember that you were mainly influenced by what your mother said

maybe you should do some investigating to get the full story


No matter what the mother did (if she did anything), the man should still man-up for the child's sake.

Maybe it's just the way his father was. It happens many times. I've seen it.


you just proved my point

thank you

you just said it does not matter if the child is used as a weapon

case proven

-----------------

mother should not do anything to keep father away from child

she should live up to her responsibility as well



Don't put words into my mouth, Adj4u!!

I didn't say that it's right for a woman to keep a child away from a man. I do think it's right in some circumstances though - when the mental and physically safety of the child is at stake.

I was saying that NO MATTER WHAT, the non-caregiver still should be contributing to the child.


"""""""No matter what the mother did""""""" this includes using as a weapon --- no matter what

did you forget my post

with the 700 family of 4 post

as i said you proved my point

1/2 basic food housing thats it

if the parent wants the child to have the extras

then they need to keep the parent in the childs life

reread the posts before you assume something

if parent is refused their rights by custodial parent they should lose custody.



I hate when you say 1/2 basic food/housing. It takes more then that to raise a child.

I don't approve of refusing visitation. To me, there better be a good reason - drugs, alcohol, violence, physically or mentally abusive, murderer, rapist, etc.


adj4u's photo
Sun 12/21/08 03:45 PM
i agree with that

but you know what

if you love yer kid and want whats best for the child

and you want the help do not alienate the other parent

that is my point

and if you alienate the other parent you lose custody

everyone should want whats best for the child

human nature is usually greedy

so you make it cost them if they do not do what is best for the child unfortunately it costs the child as well til custody is re awarded





adj4u's photo
Sun 12/21/08 10:39 PM
interesting

very interesting

MrsKaters's photo
Mon 12/22/08 03:13 AM


ok my case....i took my ex to court 13 years ago...only recieved one check and another check got stolen. We finally filed for criminal charges a few months ago. He was finally arresed last week and has had his initial hearing. Does this mean i'm going to finally recieve the money that is owed to my kids???


Only if he has money to give. I believe they can take his possessions and sell them off as well, but not sure on the whole law concerning that.


he has nothing to give in his name..he works under the table if he works and he doesn't own anything. he's been running from the law ever since we went to court back in nov. 1995

no photo
Mon 12/22/08 03:38 AM



ok my case....i took my ex to court 13 years ago...only recieved one check and another check got stolen. We finally filed for criminal charges a few months ago. He was finally arresed last week and has had his initial hearing. Does this mean i'm going to finally recieve the money that is owed to my kids???


Only if he has money to give. I believe they can take his possessions and sell them off as well, but not sure on the whole law concerning that.


he has nothing to give in his name..he works under the table if he works and he doesn't own anything. he's been running from the law ever since we went to court back in nov. 1995


No, you won't see a dime. If nothing is in his name, and has been working under the table, technically he has 'nothing' no assets, nothing to attach, or file a lien against.
Sorry.

MrsKaters's photo
Mon 12/22/08 03:43 AM
true but at least he's behind bars for awhile. He can't screw around with others for nothing

adj4u's photo
Mon 12/22/08 07:00 AM

true but at least he's behind bars for awhile. He can't screw around with others for nothing


he is not the type that i am advocating for

i feel he should be put into public works program and his pay garnished to pay his debt (as long as he was never denied access to his children)

i am not one sided in my posts but when the system is set up in a prejudice manner there will be those that run from the system

and even when it is set up as fairly as possible you will still have those that abuse the system

their are enough things that need done i this country that instead of throwing money to big corporations there should be govt works programs set up

and if one does not meet their obligations to their children in a fairly set up program (as i described earlier or if a better one can be described) then they be installed into a govt works program and decent housing and board provided

not a jail set up but maybe an apartment nothing fancy but nothing extravagant neither

they would get paid 80% the average wage and receive an allowance (out of their pay) the remainder of the wage would pay for the room and board with the remainder going to child support

they will not be in a jail situation but more like a military base fenced in and sentries

must check in and out and get a pass from their supervisor to leave the grounds

call me crazy but if a fair system is in place most would not want to live this lifestyle


MrsKaters's photo
Mon 12/22/08 07:07 AM
hey Robin, He owes over $40,000 in back support just for our oldest son..that's not including my middle son

adj4u's photo
Mon 12/22/08 07:13 AM
i understand what you are saying kators

and we need a system that works
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as it is now

to many do not pay

and to many use the child as a leverage point

i am not saying anyone posting has done that

but we know it happens have seen it too many times


MrsKaters's photo
Mon 12/22/08 07:15 AM

i understand what you are saying kators

and we need a system that works
----------------------------------------
as it is now

to many do not pay

and to many use the child as a leverage point

i am not saying anyone posting has done that

but we know it happens have seen it too many times




i know and i understand. it's very sad

no photo
Mon 12/22/08 07:25 AM
I still say the best way is make the parents work it out. I know this wont work in every case but in most it would. If you cant work it out then no divorce is granted until it is. If you refuse or abandon your family with out doing so, you would be held in contempt and put in jail until you do!!! JMO

adj4u's photo
Mon 12/22/08 07:26 AM
flowerforyou flowerforyou flowerforyou

the child always seems to be the one that loses most

no photo
Mon 12/22/08 07:34 AM
Yes!! Thats the sad part of it. sad

adj4u's photo
Mon 12/22/08 07:37 AM

I still say the best way is make the parents work it out. I know this wont work in every case but in most it would. If you cant work it out then no divorce is granted until it is. If you refuse or abandon your family with out doing so, you would be held in contempt and put in jail until you do!!! JMO


jail is not the answer

controlled environment as described above maybe would