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In TX whome ever has the kid files in their county and yes like old dude said u need an attorney. think my payments end 2012  Why are you crying for helping to feed your children? |
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http://www.acf.hhs.gov/programs/cse/fct/fct2.htm
Child Support Bureau, Department of Child Services 402 West Washington Street Rm W360 Indianapolis, Indiana 46204-2739 Office: 317-233-5437(P) 317-233-4932(F) |
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WINX- do i look that skanky 2 u?
no I'm the one supose 2 b getin chld sup (double standard- guy doesnt pay 4 a month he goes 2 jail- my baby moma hasnt payed in bout 4 month yet she has money to buy a cady and do what ever the hell she wants) I have the kids. I'm cryin bout payin my loan 4 my attorney. eathier way u'r right. |
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WINX- do i look that skanky 2 u? no I'm the one supose 2 b getin chld sup (double standard- guy doesnt pay 4 a month he goes 2 jail- my baby moma hasnt payed in bout 4 month yet she has money to buy a cady and do what ever the hell she wants) I have the kids. I'm cryin bout payin my loan 4 my attorney. eathier way u'r right. I don't judge people by how they look. You didn't say you were crying about the attorney payments. You have my apologies. If you had the children, the mom should be paying. It's wrong not to help. |
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Edited by
olskooldave
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Mon 12/15/08 02:14 PM
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no need 4 a apology was jst screwin w/u. but i dindnt whant tha womerns thinkin i was a dead beat dad. i shouldnt b cryin bout payin att off- bcause i get to spend so much time w/ my crazy - loud - somtimes mean- spitfire- krazy kidos. mayb i have a reson 2 cry. I retract previous sentances.
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no need 4 a apology was jst screwin w/u. but i dindnt whant tha womerns thinkin i was a dead beat dad. i shouldnt b cryin bout payin att off- bcause i get to spend so much time w/ my crazy - loud - somtimes mean- spitfire- krazy kidos. mayb i have a reson 2 cry. I retract previous sentances. Enjoy those crazy kiddos.  They grow while we're sleeping. Then one day you wonder where the time has gone.
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Edited by
Unknow
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Mon 12/15/08 02:41 PM
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Check out Fathers for Equal rights. They help me a some 10 years back and Im sure they are still around.
Just googled them and there are many chapters. Contact a local one. GREAT ORGANIZATION!!! |
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thnks gota check that out 4 sure.
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WINX- do i look that skanky 2 u? no I'm the one supose 2 b getin chld sup (double standard- guy doesnt pay 4 a month he goes 2 jail- my baby moma hasnt payed in bout 4 month yet she has money to buy a cady and do what ever the hell she wants) I have the kids. I'm cryin bout payin my loan 4 my attorney. eathier way u'r right. lol you and I need to get together bro, as I am in the same damn situatioin with my ex. She makes over 1600 a month TAKE home and was ordered to only pay a combined totoal of 88 dollars per month for both of our children. |
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Check out Fathers for Equal rights. They help me a some 10 years back and Im sure they are still around. Just googled them and there are many chapters. Contact a local one. GREAT ORGANIZATION!!! thanks temp, Iam checking that site out right now. |
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Edited by
aztmom
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Mon 12/15/08 05:27 PM
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Go to the website Franshade posted. You can actually calculate what your child support will be if you know what his income is. I live in Indiana and my ex moved to Kentucky. Everything went through Indiana and the county I live in. The child support calculator is exactly what my attorney used to figure out how much he was to pay and that is what the courts also used. Attorneys here in Southern Indiana run about 200.00 per hour. In child support cases it is highly recommended to have an attorney and do NOT use the same one he does. Also, current Indiana law requires child support to be paid until the child is 21.
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Check out Fathers for Equal rights. They help me a some 10 years back and Im sure they are still around. Just googled them and there are many chapters. Contact a local one. GREAT ORGANIZATION!!! thanks temp, Iam checking that site out right now. |
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WINX- do i look that skanky 2 u? no I'm the one supose 2 b getin chld sup (double standard- guy doesnt pay 4 a month he goes 2 jail- my baby moma hasnt payed in bout 4 month yet she has money to buy a cady and do what ever the hell she wants) I have the kids. I'm cryin bout payin my loan 4 my attorney. eathier way u'r right. lol you and I need to get together bro, as I am in the same damn situatioin with my ex. She makes over 1600 a month TAKE home and was ordered to only pay a combined totoal of 88 dollars per month for both of our children. I'd say we could get together and drink a beer but I know we're both 2 broke. 88 that BS |
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WINX- do i look that skanky 2 u? no I'm the one supose 2 b getin chld sup (double standard- guy doesnt pay 4 a month he goes 2 jail- my baby moma hasnt payed in bout 4 month yet she has money to buy a cady and do what ever the hell she wants) I have the kids. I'm cryin bout payin my loan 4 my attorney. eathier way u'r right. lol you and I need to get together bro, as I am in the same damn situatioin with my ex. She makes over 1600 a month TAKE home and was ordered to only pay a combined totoal of 88 dollars per month for both of our children. I'd say we could get together and drink a beer but I know we're both 2 broke. 88 that BS isnt it though? I just got done checking that website out for fathers rights, and am waiting a response. However browing through it I couldnt find anything that would pertain to my case, as everything was based off of Texas law. Hopeully whn I get a response, they will be able to assist me more. |
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Edited by
Unknow
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Mon 12/15/08 06:17 PM
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WINX- do i look that skanky 2 u? no I'm the one supose 2 b getin chld sup (double standard- guy doesnt pay 4 a month he goes 2 jail- my baby moma hasnt payed in bout 4 month yet she has money to buy a cady and do what ever the hell she wants) I have the kids. I'm cryin bout payin my loan 4 my attorney. eathier way u'r right. lol you and I need to get together bro, as I am in the same damn situatioin with my ex. She makes over 1600 a month TAKE home and was ordered to only pay a combined totoal of 88 dollars per month for both of our children. I'd say we could get together and drink a beer but I know we're both 2 broke. 88 that BS isnt it though? I just got done checking that website out for fathers rights, and am waiting a response. However browing through it I couldnt find anything that would pertain to my case, as everything was based off of Texas law. Hopeully whn I get a response, they will be able to assist me more. |
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i wish u luck.yes you need to talk to attorney or court where u live.i've had my grandson sice he was 3wk's old have full custody and is now 12 i've gotten may be 500.00 total from mom and dad now one is n jail and one on the run,so my best wishes.dont use the kid's as pawns they get hurt in the end.i have other grand kid's in that deal
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Traciann.
I have tried for three days to not reply to this subject but I feel I must as age does bring a certain form of wisdom through experience. Please do not use words like "will they make me drive?" It is a privilege and honor to do the right thing and no one can make you do anything with a paper from a court..however you can do it because it is the proper form of parenting and enjoy the inconvenience you are experiencing.All children deserve the right to know their parents and because you two failed each other does not mean you should fail to do the right thing for the child.Give the father visitation as much as you can and learn to love it..Your child may well learn about compassion and good parenting through your and your ex's examples. Now for the child support issue..I detest the idea that one needs a court order to get monies to raise a child..A good parent does not need a court order to do the right thing.They do what they can and that should be the way it is.If in a troubled economy like we see now ,how would you feel if your ex lost his job for a while ...Should he be threatened or even put in jail....Hell no!!! Bad for him .you and the child and the economy..but everyone wants the security of a piece of paper that says pay or go to jail...(we left England for reasons like debtors prison but in modern day America we use our children to earn money).How sad.. Traciann, I urge you to think about one thing, what if your ex died tomorrow...what would you do then? Now that is the reality of the situation you are in...Please just think about that and remember that anything you get from your ex voluntarily or by court order is a gift and could be lost anytime..Now how secure do you feel now...Reality bites ! |
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what if your ex died tomorrow...what would you do then? Now that is the reality of the situation you are in...Please just think about that and remember that anything you get from your ex voluntarily or by court order is a gift and could be lost anytime..Now how secure do you feel now...Reality bites ! i agree that it is a sad thing that we need to take our ex'es to court in order to get them to own up to their responsibilities. And I also agree that if my ex (as I am sure most would) were to die tomorrow, I would be mortified; not because of a loss of income, but because of the loss of a human life and soul, no matter how troubled that life and soul may have been. However, just becasue my ex, or anyone elses, might die tomorrow, does not mean they should not be required to take responsibility for their children. Yes they might die tmorrow or the following year, but until the sorrowful day arrives, thenthey need to still do what tey can to support their children. And as for the coment aboutthe troubling times we are in, most states, if nt all, have allowances for loss of income or reduction in income, and all you have to do is petition the fmaily court with evidence of the reduction/loss and they will lower your child support paymetn accordingly. It almost sounds to me as if you are trying to justyify a non-custodial parents lack of support fopr their children, althuogh I am sure you are not doing any such thing. So I ask that you stop and think on this question for a moment: a non-custodial parent is required to pay 200 a month support, and does everything they can to get out of it for twelve years, but is unable to do so. Their checks are garnished inorder to fullfill this obligation to their children. After twelve years, they die, thus support stops. Yes thisis a sorrowful day all around, and not because of the loss of support. But imagine now, if that same parent had been ablet o get out of paying the support forthose twelve years. How much more sorrowful a LIFE would that child have had? No money does nto solve everything; it solves very little and causes a hell of a lot more. But sadly in todays society, it is a neccesarry evil, that we as responsible parents need to do everything we legally can in order to provide enough for our children. Gods peace to you on this matter, and may you see the wisdom of BOTH sides of this evil fence. |
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You are living in a dream world where the government can solve everything..First if you are already behind in support then you really do not have the money for a lawyer to go back to court...You did not answer or ignored my statement about jail as a cure for failing to be on time with payments and once you are behind it is detrimental to the child's mental and emotional health to know that a parent is going to court to enforce their orders.Negative input gets negative results..and most kids know whats up.My parents have to go to court to settle their problems...how nice a thought for a child... I never said anything that even closely states that parents are to be deadbeats.I however suggest that a parent has a moral duty to be a good parent.Too simple..since when did money build more character than lack of money..You mention a sorrowful life for a child who would not get 200 a month..give me a break..here is the breakdown on that...i hour extra per day at 6.25 gets the same result as you want the courts to guarantee...Now which is better ...work one hour extra per day or go to court to force someone else to do it...hmmmmm. You state the following"Gods peace to you on this matter, and may you see the wisdom of BOTH sides of this evil fence." THERE IS NO WISDOM IN USING CHILDREN TO GET MONEY!!!IT IS EVIL TO DO SO ..WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME YOU SAW FORCED VISITATION WHICH IS AS IMPORTANT TO A CHILD TO PREVENT SORROWFUL EMOTIONAL AND MENTAL SCARS? |
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Edited by
franshade
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Tue 12/16/08 07:35 AM
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Traciann. I have tried for three days to not reply to this subject but I feel I must as age does bring a certain form of wisdom through experience. Please do not use words like "will they make me drive?" It is a privilege and honor to do the right thing and no one can make you do anything with a paper from a court..however you can do it because it is the proper form of parenting and enjoy the inconvenience you are experiencing.All children deserve the right to know their parents and because you two failed each other does not mean you should fail to do the right thing for the child.Give the father visitation as much as you can and learn to love it..Your child may well learn about compassion and good parenting through your and your ex's examples. Now for the child support issue..I detest the idea that one needs a court order to get monies to raise a child..A good parent does not need a court order to do the right thing.They do what they can and that should be the way it is.If in a troubled economy like we see now ,how would you feel if your ex lost his job for a while ...Should he be threatened or even put in jail....Hell no!!! Bad for him .you and the child and the economy..but everyone wants the security of a piece of paper that says pay or go to jail...(we left England for reasons like debtors prison but in modern day America we use our children to earn money).How sad.. Traciann, I urge you to think about one thing, what if your ex died tomorrow...what would you do then? Now that is the reality of the situation you are in...Please just think about that and remember that anything you get from your ex voluntarily or by court order is a gift and could be lost anytime..Now how secure do you feel now...Reality bites ! nice alternative - however, not all parents are good parents, and not all custodial parents are in the position to be so lenient and carefree when it comes to the non custodial parent. A good parent - is a reponsible one, offering their child(ren) love, guidance, financial security, education, et al. all the time not when convenient or when they can. Should the non custodial parent go to jail if he/she doesn't pay, I say Yes, either get another job, makes ends meet, but because this person is going thru hardship should not and does not relinquish the parenting of the child. This child still needs to eat, a roof, etc. I don't agree that child support is a means to make money, it's a means to make parenting fair to custodial parent. **Granted there are those parents that abuse the system, just as there are parents that get no assistance.** I will side with the needs children not the parents (jmo) |
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