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Topic: has the "big bang theory" become a religious belief?
Jess642's photo
Sat 10/25/08 02:06 PM





funches please entreat me this question.

what is proof?

what does it take to prove something?





It's a slide rule equation based on the Law of Funches...:wink: laugh


you got it "Jess"



*****Bows head******

"Why thankyou, oh great Sensai, shall I now go and perfect my wax on, wax off meditation?"





laugh


hummmm mediation and the pain of waxing ...sounds kinky


noway noway I meant the OTHER wax on, wax off meditation...noway noway blushing

tribo's photo
Sat 10/25/08 02:06 PM
funch, fact are forever changing, there is nothing that at some time has not or will not come to light to make present facts non factual at some time, the most you can say is those things that you take as being present facts.

would saying water is wet and ice is cold and steam is hot be concidered present facts by you?

Krimsa's photo
Sat 10/25/08 02:08 PM






funches please entreat me this question.

what is proof?

what does it take to prove something?





It's a slide rule equation based on the Law of Funches...:wink: laugh


you got it "Jess"



*****Bows head******

"Why thankyou, oh great Sensai, shall I now go and perfect my wax on, wax off meditation?"





laugh


hummmm mediation and the pain of waxing ...sounds kinky


noway noway I meant the OTHER wax on, wax off meditation...noway noway blushing



Did you mean the Pat Morita inspired "Wax on, wax off"? Karate Kid?? laugh happy



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Sat 10/25/08 02:10 PM



Well like Sam and I have both evidenced, it does not matter what he might have done later in his life. I actually have not researched that. BUT, the point we are attempting to make is AT THE TIME of the writing of the Constitution and the Declaration, he was a Deist. Outside of that wouldn't be significant.


well "Krisma" let's use "Sam" aka "Tribo" to show my point ..."Tribo" follows supposely a panthiesm or deist existence ...but he was first a christian and that is where his concept of God came from ...his religious or spiritual affliation was spawned from christianity


im a truist funch i am still searching for truths, that is my goal, to find the truth i have not settled on anyway bieng "the" way as of yet, but i do agree my original take on god was christian/catholic in reality. but- whati write now if you did not know that would not lead you to conclude in anyway that i was at some point a christian. and thats what i mean of jefferson and the rest of the deist.


and "Tribo" that why if you worship a God or believe in one it can only be the Christian God because that is where your concept of God arised from ...you can called yourself a "truist" but that is the case of all those that disagree with their religion...they branch off into splinter sects and rename themselves

Jess642's photo
Sat 10/25/08 02:11 PM







funches please entreat me this question.

what is proof?

what does it take to prove something?





It's a slide rule equation based on the Law of Funches...:wink: laugh


you got it "Jess"



*****Bows head******

"Why thankyou, oh great Sensai, shall I now go and perfect my wax on, wax off meditation?"





laugh


hummmm mediation and the pain of waxing ...sounds kinky


noway noway I meant the OTHER wax on, wax off meditation...noway noway blushing



Did you mean the Pat Morita inspired "Wax on, wax off"? Karate Kid?? laugh happy





YES!!!!!!!!!!!

blushing blushing blushing :wink: laugh

no photo
Sat 10/25/08 02:11 PM






funches please entreat me this question.

what is proof?

what does it take to prove something?





It's a slide rule equation based on the Law of Funches...:wink: laugh


you got it "Jess"



*****Bows head******

"Why thankyou, oh great Sensai, shall I now go and perfect my wax on, wax off meditation?"





laugh


hummmm mediation and the pain of waxing ...sounds kinky


noway noway I meant the OTHER wax on, wax off meditation...noway noway blushing


hummm sounds more kinky

Krimsa's photo
Sat 10/25/08 02:14 PM




Well like Sam and I have both evidenced, it does not matter what he might have done later in his life. I actually have not researched that. BUT, the point we are attempting to make is AT THE TIME of the writing of the Constitution and the Declaration, he was a Deist. Outside of that wouldn't be significant.


well "Krisma" let's use "Sam" aka "Tribo" to show my point ..."Tribo" follows supposely a panthiesm or deist existence ...but he was first a christian and that is where his concept of God came from ...his religious or spiritual affliation was spawned from christianity


im a truist funch i am still searching for truths, that is my goal, to find the truth i have not settled on anyway bieng "the" way as of yet, but i do agree my original take on god was christian/catholic in reality. but- whati write now if you did not know that would not lead you to conclude in anyway that i was at some point a christian. and thats what i mean of jefferson and the rest of the deist.


and "Tribo" that why if you worship a God or believe in one it can only be the Christian God because that is where your concept of God arised from ...you can called yourself a "truist" but that is the case of all those that disagree with their religion...they branch off into splinter sects and rename themselves


Oh PLEASE. What about the Pre-dynastic Egyptian Gods? What about all of the Pagan gods and goddesses that existed prior to Christianity which is only about 2000 years old in full force. "God" is a generic term/concept.

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Sat 10/25/08 02:14 PM



Alright funches I give up. I concede defeat or whatever. The founding fathers were just confused Christians. Obviously because you were not there to impart your divine wisdom before them. I dont even know how they managed to write down the Declaration and the Constitution without your assistance.

laugh laugh


well "Krisma" let's just say that the majority of the founding fathers were christians and the ones that arrived on the Mayflower were christians or whatever...but clearly christians ruled the land


I would disagree and have given you substantial supportive evidence. There were Christians and there were Deists. Thats the reality.


"Krisma" wouldn't you say there were no more than 5 deists among the 200 or more christians

Krimsa's photo
Sat 10/25/08 02:16 PM




Alright funches I give up. I concede defeat or whatever. The founding fathers were just confused Christians. Obviously because you were not there to impart your divine wisdom before them. I dont even know how they managed to write down the Declaration and the Constitution without your assistance.

laugh laugh


well "Krisma" let's just say that the majority of the founding fathers were christians and the ones that arrived on the Mayflower were christians or whatever...but clearly christians ruled the land


I would disagree and have given you substantial supportive evidence. There were Christians and there were Deists. Thats the reality.


"Krisma" wouldn't you say there were no more than 5 deists among the 200 or more christians


No. I wouldnt say that at all and I have no idea what you are referring to.

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Sat 10/25/08 02:17 PM

funch, fact are forever changing, there is nothing that at some time has not or will not come to light to make present facts non factual at some time, the most you can say is those things that you take as being present facts.

would saying water is wet and ice is cold and steam is hot be concidered present facts by you?


oh no not the ice, water and stream analogy again .."Tribo"..I see you and "Skyhook" think on the same thought wave

tribo's photo
Sat 10/25/08 02:18 PM




Well like Sam and I have both evidenced, it does not matter what he might have done later in his life. I actually have not researched that. BUT, the point we are attempting to make is AT THE TIME of the writing of the Constitution and the Declaration, he was a Deist. Outside of that wouldn't be significant.


well "Krisma" let's use "Sam" aka "Tribo" to show my point ..."Tribo" follows supposely a panthiesm or deist existence ...but he was first a christian and that is where his concept of God came from ...his religious or spiritual affliation was spawned from christianity




im a truist funch i am still searching for truths, that is my goal, to find the truth i have not settled on anyway bieng "the" way as of yet, but i do agree my original take on god was christian/catholic in reality. but- whati write now if you did not know that would not lead you to conclude in anyway that i was at some point a christian. and thats what i mean of jefferson and the rest of the deist.


and "Tribo" that why if you worship a God or believe in one it can only be the Christian God because that is where your concept of God arised from ...you can called yourself a "truist" but that is the case of all those that disagree with their religion...they branch off into splinter sects and rename themselves



Well i might agree with you funch if "re-naming" yourself meant giving creedence to what you formerly held as fact, i do not, nor did the deist, therefore your assumption is flawed. i did not splinter into a new sect - i know of no group called truist,[though there may be] that is my word for what i pursue, even if you could show others exist i do not take part in or necessarily would i agree with their truths if so. im as much sam as you are ?? what is your real name funch????

anyway thats a poor example to hold to and express, think of something else.

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Sat 10/25/08 02:20 PM





Well like Sam and I have both evidenced, it does not matter what he might have done later in his life. I actually have not researched that. BUT, the point we are attempting to make is AT THE TIME of the writing of the Constitution and the Declaration, he was a Deist. Outside of that wouldn't be significant.


well "Krisma" let's use "Sam" aka "Tribo" to show my point ..."Tribo" follows supposely a panthiesm or deist existence ...but he was first a christian and that is where his concept of God came from ...his religious or spiritual affliation was spawned from christianity


im a truist funch i am still searching for truths, that is my goal, to find the truth i have not settled on anyway bieng "the" way as of yet, but i do agree my original take on god was christian/catholic in reality. but- whati write now if you did not know that would not lead you to conclude in anyway that i was at some point a christian. and thats what i mean of jefferson and the rest of the deist.


and "Tribo" that why if you worship a God or believe in one it can only be the Christian God because that is where your concept of God arised from ...you can called yourself a "truist" but that is the case of all those that disagree with their religion...they branch off into splinter sects and rename themselves


Oh PLEASE. What about the Pre-dynastic Egyptian Gods? What about all of the Pagan gods and goddesses that existed prior to Christianity which is only about 2000 years old in full force. "God" is a generic term/concept.


"Krisma" we are taking about "Tribo" religious roots unless you are saying "Tribo" worshipped "Rah" before he became a Christian

Krimsa's photo
Sat 10/25/08 02:21 PM
Alright never mind, I missed that context. My mistake. I thought you were attempting to say that the concept of "god" can only be Christian. That just wont fly.

laugh

Jess642's photo
Sat 10/25/08 02:21 PM
Edited by Jess642 on Sat 10/25/08 02:22 PM
(Psssst! Tribo/Sam... I suspect Funches' mum called him funches...hence we get the " * " around our screen names...)

Poor thing, I shall call him Sue from now on so he can have an alias too.:wink: flowerforyou

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Sat 10/25/08 02:21 PM





Alright funches I give up. I concede defeat or whatever. The founding fathers were just confused Christians. Obviously because you were not there to impart your divine wisdom before them. I dont even know how they managed to write down the Declaration and the Constitution without your assistance.

laugh laugh


well "Krisma" let's just say that the majority of the founding fathers were christians and the ones that arrived on the Mayflower were christians or whatever...but clearly christians ruled the land


I would disagree and have given you substantial supportive evidence. There were Christians and there were Deists. Thats the reality.


"Krisma" wouldn't you say there were no more than 5 deists among the 200 or more christians


No. I wouldnt say that at all and I have no idea what you are referring to.


what you have short term memory loss or something ...the founding fathers was the subject

Krimsa's photo
Sat 10/25/08 02:25 PM






Alright funches I give up. I concede defeat or whatever. The founding fathers were just confused Christians. Obviously because you were not there to impart your divine wisdom before them. I dont even know how they managed to write down the Declaration and the Constitution without your assistance.

laugh laugh


well "Krisma" let's just say that the majority of the founding fathers were christians and the ones that arrived on the Mayflower were christians or whatever...but clearly christians ruled the land


I would disagree and have given you substantial supportive evidence. There were Christians and there were Deists. Thats the reality.


"Krisma" wouldn't you say there were no more than 5 deists among the 200 or more christians


No. I wouldnt say that at all and I have no idea what you are referring to.


what you have short term memory loss or something ...the founding fathers was the subject


So now you are trying to break down the numbers for the founding fathers? Well before you would not even admit that ANY of them were Deists. Are we wearing you thin at this point? You dont have to accept any of this Funches. Its just what I have studied a bit on my own time over the years and many Christians have this reaction when they first hear it.

tribo's photo
Sat 10/25/08 02:26 PM

(Psssst! Tribo/Sam... I suspect Funches' mum called him funches...hence we get the " * " around our screen names...)

Poor thing, I shall call him Sue from now on so he can have an alias too.:wink: flowerforyou


thnx Jesse, i keep it quite shhhhh!! but i will start addressing him as sue also unless he tells me his real name - tongue2

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Sat 10/25/08 02:28 PM





Well like Sam and I have both evidenced, it does not matter what he might have done later in his life. I actually have not researched that. BUT, the point we are attempting to make is AT THE TIME of the writing of the Constitution and the Declaration, he was a Deist. Outside of that wouldn't be significant.


well "Krisma" let's use "Sam" aka "Tribo" to show my point ..."Tribo" follows supposely a panthiesm or deist existence ...but he was first a christian and that is where his concept of God came from ...his religious or spiritual affliation was spawned from christianity




im a truist funch i am still searching for truths, that is my goal, to find the truth i have not settled on anyway bieng "the" way as of yet, but i do agree my original take on god was christian/catholic in reality. but- whati write now if you did not know that would not lead you to conclude in anyway that i was at some point a christian. and thats what i mean of jefferson and the rest of the deist.


and "Tribo" that why if you worship a God or believe in one it can only be the Christian God because that is where your concept of God arised from ...you can called yourself a "truist" but that is the case of all those that disagree with their religion...they branch off into splinter sects and rename themselves



Well i might agree with you funch if "re-naming" yourself meant giving creedence to what you formerly held as fact, i do not, nor did the deist, therefore your assumption is flawed. i did not splinter into a new sect - i know of no group called truist,[though there may be] that is my word for what i pursue, even if you could show others exist i do not take part in or necessarily would i agree with their truths if so. im as much sam as you are ?? what is your real name funch????

anyway thats a poor example to hold to and express, think of something else.


"Tribo" in fact my real name is Funches ...but anyway

the question is..do you still worship and believe in a God ... and besides following no religion explain how that God is different than the christian god you once held so dearly

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Sat 10/25/08 02:30 PM

Alright never mind, I missed that context. My mistake. I thought you were attempting to say that the concept of "god" can only be Christian. That just wont fly.

laugh


all forgiven "Krisma" ...now pay attention to whats going on woman

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Sat 10/25/08 02:32 PM

(Psssst! Tribo/Sam... I suspect Funches' mum called him funches...hence we get the " * " around our screen names...)

Poor thing, I shall call him Sue from now on so he can have an alias too.:wink: flowerforyou


"Jess" you appear to be very passive aggresive today ...maybe you need a re-wax

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