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Drivinmenutz Joined Wed 11/14/07 Posts: 4290	Mon 10/20/08 05:19 PM
bang bang bang bang yippie kay yay

warmachine Joined Tue 04/08/08 Posts: 4528	Mon 10/20/08 05:22 PM
Again I will say if you can guarentee an innocent "non carrying a gun" person will not become the target of an angry, out of their mind, drunk, druggie, temporarily insane, control freak, gun power junkie, father, brother, sister cousin, aunt, uncle, mother, etc.... and end up hurt or dead because of these crazies with guns. I will gladly say arm us all. Until that day I cannot. I was raised with guns and am not a bad shot myself but I could not bring myself to own one because my children's health and well being came before mine. I could never forgive myself if I brought a gun into my house and my son(who was a great locksmith by a young age) got ahold of the gun and did someone harm. I would not have felt good had my home got broken into while I was gone and a burgler got ahold of my weapon and used it against other people, etc.... I was being untimately responsible for myself and a gun. I was being respectful of others by not bringing a danger into my home or society. I would counter with: Car Wrecks kill quite a few people, I would suppose then, since I can't assure myself that there won't be morons texting,eating, putting on makeup or worse drinking and driving, then we should remove vehicles from the road until they have recieved all the standards and training that you would get from being a MTA bus driver. Then you would have to promise everyone that you would never ever do anything that might endanger someone while driving your car. "Untimately responsible"????.....maybe you should have to pass a 5th grade spelling test before you own guns......hahaha I would say, typos happen to everyone and if thats all you have to counter my arguement, then you should just bow out now and save yourself some serious embarassment. The fact is there are a million things that can cause you harm and none of them are expressedly protected rights insured by the constitution.

Drivinmenutz Joined Wed 11/14/07 Posts: 4290	Mon 10/20/08 05:23 PM
Hell, don't even hunt, i just love to shoot. I've been on shooting teams, qualified expert on pistols, shotguns, machine guns, granade launchers, rifles, and the AT-4 rocket launcher when i was in the Army... Shooting is fun. Dont do it that often anymore Too bad ammo costs so damn much...

franshade Joined Tue 07/24/07 Posts: 24704	Mon 10/20/08 05:31 PM
bang bang bang bang yippie kay yay drivin but you didnt finish it

Drivinmenutz Joined Wed 11/14/07 Posts: 4290	Mon 10/20/08 05:32 PM
motha f-a hehe...

franshade Joined Tue 07/24/07 Posts: 24704	Mon 10/20/08 05:37 PM
motha f-a hehe... wtg Bruce Willis (John Mclane)

NIGHTTRAIN99 Joined Sun 08/24/08 Posts: 292	Tue 10/21/08 07:00 AM
Boy you guys have THICK skulls.....don't worry though.....it goes well with your Neanderthal way of thinking......

franshade Joined Tue 07/24/07 Posts: 24704	Tue 10/21/08 07:01 AM


NIGHTTRAIN99 Joined Sun 08/24/08 Posts: 292	Tue 10/21/08 07:31 AM
hahaha....clever!.....I like it!

franshade Joined Tue 07/24/07 Posts: 24704	Tue 10/21/08 01:48 PM
bump

Bushidobillyclub Joined Fri 05/11/07 Posts: 5689	Wed 10/22/08 06:19 PM Edited by Bushidobillyclub on Wed 10/22/08 06:25 PM
Maine is luckily still really lax with gun laws. No registration required. Just a 10 minute wait for a background check for felonies. This includes pistols and assault rifles... Concealed weapons permits are easy to get, and you STILL dont even have to register your firearm... This is one of my state's few saving graces... Its the same in florida . . . . and rightly so! _________________________ Yea I am a vegetarian pacifist, I Wouldn't willingly kill ANYTHING . . . but you take guns away from people and you leave the criminal with all the power. Its called rational thought, not every gun toting person need be pro war, pro hunting, murderous hate filled killers lol sigh. personally I think I should be able to buy full auto ect. My personal thoughts are if you want to lower the crime rate, you need to forget the weapon, and go after the ideas . . . ask why . . . what is causing people to get into a situation, or a mind set that perpetuates violence . . . these are not unfathomable questions, in fact if you get on a personal level, they are usually quite easy to explain . . . the problem . . . it takes time to understand . . . peoeple want quick and easy answers to long and difficult issues. bottom line gun laws don't work to lower violence . . you have to work on the cause . . not the tool.

Drivinmenutz Joined Wed 11/14/07 Posts: 4290	Wed 10/22/08 07:42 PM
Maine is luckily still really lax with gun laws. No registration required. Just a 10 minute wait for a background check for felonies. This includes pistols and assault rifles... Concealed weapons permits are easy to get, and you STILL dont even have to register your firearm... This is one of my state's few saving graces... Its the same in florida . . . . and rightly so! _________________________ Yea I am a vegetarian pacifist, I Wouldn't willingly kill ANYTHING . . . but you take guns away from people and you leave the criminal with all the power. Its called rational thought, not every gun toting person need be pro war, pro hunting, murderous hate filled killers lol sigh. personally I think I should be able to buy full auto ect. My personal thoughts are if you want to lower the crime rate, you need to forget the weapon, and go after the ideas . . . ask why . . . what is causing people to get into a situation, or a mind set that perpetuates violence . . . these are not unfathomable questions, in fact if you get on a personal level, they are usually quite easy to explain . . . the problem . . . it takes time to understand . . . peoeple want quick and easy answers to long and difficult issues. bottom line gun laws don't work to lower violence . . you have to work on the cause . . not the tool. Very well said...

boredinaz06 Joined Sun 10/15/06 Posts: 22764	Wed 10/22/08 07:42 PM
Maine is luckily still really lax with gun laws. No registration required. Just a 10 minute wait for a background check for felonies. This includes pistols and assault rifles... Concealed weapons permits are easy to get, and you STILL dont even have to register your firearm... This is one of my state's few saving graces... Its the same in florida . . . . and rightly so! _________________________ Yea I am a vegetarian pacifist, I Wouldn't willingly kill ANYTHING . . . but you take guns away from people and you leave the criminal with all the power. Its called rational thought, not every gun toting person need be pro war, pro hunting, murderous hate filled killers lol sigh. personally I think I should be able to buy full auto ect. My personal thoughts are if you want to lower the crime rate, you need to forget the weapon, and go after the ideas . . . ask why . . . what is causing people to get into a situation, or a mind set that perpetuates violence . . . these are not unfathomable questions, in fact if you get on a personal level, they are usually quite easy to explain . . . the problem . . . it takes time to understand . . . peoeple want quick and easy answers to long and difficult issues. bottom line gun laws don't work to lower violence . . you have to work on the cause . . not the tool. I agree 100% and You Can Own Full Auto You Just have to Have the ATF Stamp $$$

quiet_2008 Joined Sat 08/30/08 Posts: 11138	Wed 10/22/08 08:03 PM
nothing complements each other like guns and beer

Bushidobillyclub Joined Fri 05/11/07 Posts: 5689	Wed 10/22/08 08:54 PM
Maine is luckily still really lax with gun laws. No registration required. Just a 10 minute wait for a background check for felonies. This includes pistols and assault rifles... Concealed weapons permits are easy to get, and you STILL dont even have to register your firearm... This is one of my state's few saving graces... Its the same in florida . . . . and rightly so! _________________________ Yea I am a vegetarian pacifist, I Wouldn't willingly kill ANYTHING . . . but you take guns away from people and you leave the criminal with all the power. Its called rational thought, not every gun toting person need be pro war, pro hunting, murderous hate filled killers lol sigh. personally I think I should be able to buy full auto ect. My personal thoughts are if you want to lower the crime rate, you need to forget the weapon, and go after the ideas . . . ask why . . . what is causing people to get into a situation, or a mind set that perpetuates violence . . . these are not unfathomable questions, in fact if you get on a personal level, they are usually quite easy to explain . . . the problem . . . it takes time to understand . . . peoeple want quick and easy answers to long and difficult issues. bottom line gun laws don't work to lower violence . . you have to work on the cause . . not the tool. I agree 100% and You Can Own Full Auto You Just have to Have the ATF Stamp $$$ $$$ and registration, and allowing those fine ATF officers access to your home 24/7 to check to make sure you have it locked up right . . . .

NIGHTTRAIN99 Joined Sun 08/24/08 Posts: 292	Thu 10/23/08 10:18 AM
Maine is luckily still really lax with gun laws. No registration required. Just a 10 minute wait for a background check for felonies. This includes pistols and assault rifles... Concealed weapons permits are easy to get, and you STILL dont even have to register your firearm... This is one of my state's few saving graces... Its the same in florida . . . . and rightly so! _________________________ Yea I am a vegetarian pacifist, I Wouldn't willingly kill ANYTHING . . . but you take guns away from people and you leave the criminal with all the power. Its called rational thought, not every gun toting person need be pro war, pro hunting, murderous hate filled killers lol sigh. personally I think I should be able to buy full auto ect. My personal thoughts are if you want to lower the crime rate, you need to forget the weapon, and go after the ideas . . . ask why . . . what is causing people to get into a situation, or a mind set that perpetuates violence . . . these are not unfathomable questions, in fact if you get on a personal level, they are usually quite easy to explain . . . the problem . . . it takes time to understand . . . peoeple want quick and easy answers to long and difficult issues. bottom line gun laws don't work to lower violence . . you have to work on the cause . . not the tool. Very well said... Maybe the problem is that we Americans WORSHIP guns.....take a look at 80 percent of movie's out there....they all have guns in them....and why is it that on the cover of any dvd movie that has guns in it,they gotta show em' on the front.....example:Lethal Weapon....theres Mel Gibson standing there holding his Beretta for no apparent reason other than to get you to rent the movie because we LOVE OUR GUNS!....do me a favour and try to make a mental note of this the next time you are in a video store....go look at how many dvd covers(jackets)have at least one person holding a gun on them....its an astonishing observation!....Now the fact that we worship guns AND they are EXTREMELY easy to buy and the youth have been polluted into thinking its "cool" to "pack heat", sell drugs and treat women like *****es.....hmmmm you couple that with bad parenting and poor education and what do you have?......CRIMINALS.....and worse yet...Criminals with guns!....do me a big favour and go check out the gun-crime rate and gun murders in the U.K.(thats England)and Canada.In UK they only allow hunting rifles(no handguns and no assault rifles and DEFINATLY no full auto)...and their gun crime rate is minimal at best.....In Canada their gun-crime rate is a little higher than UK....but their culture is more influenced by the U.S....in Canada you can have a handgun and some assault rifles but they require a special liscence to get them.....and you can pretty much only use them at a gun range...you definately can't carry them with you and if you are taking them out of your home(where you MUST have them locked in a gun safe and unloaded with the ammo in a different location)you must notify the police of where you are going with the restricted firearms (ie:the range)..the unrestricted firearms are hunting rifles and shotguns....there is also limits on mag capacities and you CANNOT hunt with an assault rifle or handgun unless approved by the govt.....now go and look up their gun-crime rates and then look up ours....its ASTONISHING!!!....now once again I will say that I am a proud owner of 5 (very nice)guns and I love to shoot,and I am not saying to take away our right to own them......but the issue is just SIMPLE MATH HERE FOLKS....and please don't answer this post with some story about some guys shooting the bad guys and "what if the good guys didn't have their guns" theory....because the "good guys" can still have their guns with what I am proposing....but maybe there would be LESS bad guys with them and it is a good place to start anyways......and I realize that it would be impossible to keep guns out of criminals hands entirely but if you force them to buy them "illegally" you are increasing the chance of them getting busted before they even get the chance to use them in the first place.....and then "borderline" and "wannabe" criminals might not have the proper connections and lose interest in getting one.......look into the gun-crime rates and come up with an intelligent response.

enderra Joined Tue 04/15/08 Posts: 1719	Thu 10/23/08 10:27 AM
Approx. 25,000 people died from gunshots in 2207. Hopefully they were all bad guys, ya think

AdventureBegins Joined Tue 04/10/07 Posts: 7666	Thu 10/23/08 10:30 AM
Approx. 25,000 people died from gunshots in 2207. Hopefully they were all bad guys, ya think How many died of auto accidents? How many died of heart attack? How many died from non gun related violence?!? Might be suprised at the results.

quiet_2008 Joined Sat 08/30/08 Posts: 11138	Thu 10/23/08 10:33 AM Edited by quiet_2008 on Thu 10/23/08 10:33 AM
how many were accidental? how many were committed with illegal weapons? besides in 2207 they won't have guns. They'll have blasters

enderra Joined Tue 04/15/08 Posts: 1719	Thu 10/23/08 10:40 AM
how many were accidental? how many were committed with illegal weapons? besides in 2207 they won't have guns. They'll have blasters That is a lame argument, the point is that those that were accidental would be alive.